[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again to ignore the main point of the post: the distinction between sattva and purusha, or judging it's a really, really *good* movie vs. actually freeing oneself

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: (P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again to ignore the main point of the post: the distinction between sattva and purusha, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: snip... the distinction between sattva and purusha, or judging it's a really, really *good* movie vs. actually freeing oneself from belief in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
new.morning wrote: Do people believe or experience that the practice of TM (and/or siddhis) improves day to day behavior and activity? http://www.enlightenedsentencing.org/index.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: (P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again to ignore the main point of the post: the distinction between sattva and purusha, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread new . morning
Actually my question was quite simple. Do people believe or experience that the practice of TM (and/or siddhis) improves day to day behavior and activity? Any takers? (The intent of the question had nothing to do with debates about altered states, enlightenment, etc.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: (P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again to ignore

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: And accurate. For example, you claim to have perfect knowledge and the ability to act from the level of the laws of nature, and you're now at 38 posts, AFTER having been told that you were at the limit some time ago by Sal. Up to 40 now by my

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread Marek Reavis
New.Morn., yes, based on my own experience, I feel that it does. However, since there's not been any control to measure against, that's just pure gut feeling. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually my question was quite simple. Do people

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: And accurate. For example, you claim to have perfect knowledge and the ability to act from the level of the laws of nature, and you're now at 38 posts, AFTER

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread Richard J. Williams
You're a sham, Jim. Sal Sunshine wrote: Bingo. do.rflex wrote: Double Bingo !! Leave Jim alone - he has just as much right to post here as you do. Maybe if you practiced TM, you would exhibit better behavior on FFL.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually my question was quite simple. Do people believe or experience that the practice of TM (and/or siddhis) improves day to day behavior and activity? Any takers? (The intent of the question had nothing to do

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
New Morning et al: Actually my question was quite simple. Do people believe or experience that the practice of TM (and/or siddhis) improves day to day behavior and activity? Any takers? Tom T; My experience is Yes. That does not mean that from time to time certain people experience me as someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like that analogy-- it works. After working with my mind to refine, refine, refine, and discriminate, the most difficult thing to get for me was the letting go, into enlightenment. It occurred because I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:54 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: And accurate. For example, you claim to have perfect knowledge and the ability to act

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: (P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again to ignore the main point of the post: the distinction between sattva and purusha, or judging it's a really, really *good* movie vs. actually freeing oneself

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-14 Thread tertonzeno
---Right, the false you has died, but the relative you still exists. It's the Rorybody.as opposed to other bodies, for example the Bushbody, the MMYbody, etc... The remaining questions regarding relativity revolve around the importance given to bodies. One can simply dismiss them (things)

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Isn't the whole premise of Maharishi's vision that TM is supposed to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I detest that expression enlightened behavior because it attempts to signify a state which is all about eternal, universal immortal freedom and categorize it so that the dualistic mind can make it comprehensible.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: I detest that expression enlightened behavior because it attempts to signify a state which is all about eternal, universal immortal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Vaj
On Nov 13, 2007, at 11:43 AM, new.morning wrote: Right. But you said you never heard of the term -- implying that you are unfamiliar with MMY's and the TMO's premise that TM etc significantly improves behavior, social interactions, and actions . Are you unfamiliar with this premise? That is

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you begin to recognize a spontaneous quality that can only be termed virtues or virtuous. It's the Natural Condition. Co-emergent with that recognition is our

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Vaj
On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you begin to recognize a spontaneous quality that can only be termed virtues or virtuous. It's the Natural Condition.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you begin to recognize a spontaneous quality

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Angela Mailander
Vaj, why don't you read my response to Curtis' response to Bronte's essay regarding behavior and TM? a Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's more than a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you begin to recognize a spontaneous quality

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Vaj
On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: Vaj, why don't you read my response to Curtis' response to Bronte's essay regarding behavior and TM? a Uh, Do I have to? If I have the time, I'll try, OK? I'm not a part time playwright, so don't expect me to bear so much drama in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Vaj
On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Rory Goff wrote: Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle hint the first time around: the possessive of it is its -- not it's, which is only used by the literate as the contraction of it is. Yes and my understanding (perhaps not of publishing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Vaj
On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:17 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Rory Goff wrote: Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle hint the first time around: the possessive of it is its -- not it's, which is only used by the literate as the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Vaj
On Nov 13, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Rory Goff wrote: Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle hint the first time around: the possessive of it is its -- not

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:17 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Rory Goff wrote: Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle hint the first time around: the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to your statement, Vaj, Yes and my understanding (perhaps not of publishing genre) was that it's ok per casual anglais, Judy would like to tell you (and I heartily agree) that it's not OK no matter how casual your anglais,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Improved Behavior

2007-11-13 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip... the distinction between sattva and purusha, or judging it's a really, really *good* movie vs. actually freeing oneself from belief in the movie. While I enjoy sattvic behavior as much as the next guy, judging