[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > > > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > > > retraction as the charges are disproved. > > > She shoots mooses. A Republican victory will mean that > there will not be one surviving sweets trolley in any > restaurant in your country. > > In England, where we regard this sort of thing as most > regrettable, there will be plenty of moose. Book your > holidays now. > Uns. > * Fugeddaboud da meese -- she shoots wolves: http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/09/08/sarah_palin_wolves/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
> > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > > retraction as the charges are disproved. > She shoots mooses. A Republican victory will mean that there will not be one surviving sweets trolley in any restaurant in your country. In England, where we regard this sort of thing as most regrettable, there will be plenty of moose. Book your holidays now. Uns.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, > > > > yourself. > > > > > > FOAD. > > > > > > What utter crap. > > > > > > That *you're* confused about where I stand does not > > > mean *I* am. > > > > > > But there's no reason for you or Sal or anybody else > > > to be confused, if you've been paying attention to > > > what I've posted. > > > > > > And if you *haven't* been paying attention to what > > > I've posted, WTF makes you think you're in a position > > > to comment one way or the other?? > > > > I've listened to your words and the tone of your words, and they > > don't appear to match. > > Oh, gee, that's real convincing, Lawson. > > It's hard to believe that supposedly intelligent > people have such simplistic perspectives. > > You and Sal can't deal with naunce, so you're > projecting your own confusion onto me. > No doubt. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, > > > yourself. > > > > FOAD. > > > > What utter crap. > > > > That *you're* confused about where I stand does not > > mean *I* am. > > > > But there's no reason for you or Sal or anybody else > > to be confused, if you've been paying attention to > > what I've posted. > > > > And if you *haven't* been paying attention to what > > I've posted, WTF makes you think you're in a position > > to comment one way or the other?? > > I've listened to your words and the tone of your words, and they > don't appear to match. Oh, gee, that's real convincing, Lawson. It's hard to believe that supposedly intelligent people have such simplistic perspectives. You and Sal can't deal with naunce, so you're projecting your own confusion onto me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > > > >> it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > > > >> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > > > >> for McCain. > > > > > > > > This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > > > like it or not. > > > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > > where I stand? > > > > *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, > > yourself. > > FOAD. > > What utter crap. > > That *you're* confused about where I stand does not > mean *I* am. > > But there's no reason for you or Sal or anybody else > to be confused, if you've been paying attention to > what I've posted. > > And if you *haven't* been paying attention to what > I've posted, WTF makes you think you're in a position > to comment one way or the other?? > I've listened to your words and the tone of your words, and they don't appear to match. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
Sorry to hear you lost yours bipolar boy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps someone should acquire a sense of humor . . . > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" wrote: > > > Feste repeatedly posting shockingly > > ignorant drivel exemplifies people that have no friggen clue > > what it takes to win an election. They are the worst enemy that > > the candidate they wish elected could ever have. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> On Sep 7, 2008, at 7:46 AM, authfriend wrote:
>
> >>> Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit
> >>> from you. Are you accusing me of lying about
> >>> where I stand?
> >>
> >> *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand,
> >> yourself.
> >
> > FOAD.
>
> English translation: Bingo!
>
> >
> > What utter crap.
> >
> > That *you're* confused about where I stand does not
> > mean *I* am.
> >
> > But there's no reason for you or Sal or anybody else
> > to be confused, if you've been paying attention to
> > what I've posted.
> >
> > And if you *haven't* been paying attention to what
> > I've posted, WTF makes you think you're in a position
> > to comment one way or the other??
>
> Um, because this is a public forum and nobody needs your
> permission, Judy? Just a thought...
Try reading the words one by one, Sal, it might
help you to grasp what I'm actually saying,
instead of what you'd like me to have said.
See if you can find the word "permission" in
anything I wrote.
Then look up the word I did write ("position")
in Mr. Dictionary.
Get back to us when you think you've understood
what I said, OK?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 7, 2008, at 7:46 AM, authfriend wrote: Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit from you. Are you accusing me of lying about where I stand? *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, yourself. FOAD. English translation: Bingo! What utter crap. That *you're* confused about where I stand does not mean *I* am. But there's no reason for you or Sal or anybody else to be confused, if you've been paying attention to what I've posted. And if you *haven't* been paying attention to what I've posted, WTF makes you think you're in a position to comment one way or the other?? Um, because this is a public forum and nobody needs your permission, Judy? Just a thought... Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 7, 2008, at 7:39 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sal, You're bright, precise, balanced, timely, responsible and interesting. You forgot dishonest, meanspirited, and narrow-minded. That's coming in the next post, Judy. :) I really, really, really like you. No surprise there. Group hug, everyone! :) Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 7, 2008, at 5:46 AM, mainstream20016 wrote: Sal, You're bright, precise, balanced, timely, responsible and interesting. I really, really, really like you. Wow. Thanks, main. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal, You're bright, precise, balanced, timely, responsible and interesting. Quote of the week !
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > >> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > > >> it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > > >> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > > >> for McCain. > > > > > > This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > > like it or not. > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > where I stand? > > *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, > yourself. FOAD. What utter crap. That *you're* confused about where I stand does not mean *I* am. But there's no reason for you or Sal or anybody else to be confused, if you've been paying attention to what I've posted. And if you *haven't* been paying attention to what I've posted, WTF makes you think you're in a position to comment one way or the other??
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sal, You're bright, precise, balanced, timely, responsible and interesting. You forgot dishonest, meanspirited, and narrow-minded. > I really, really, really like you. No surprise there. > -Mainstream > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > >> > > > > Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > > > it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > > > you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > > > for McCain. > > > > >> > > > > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > > > >> like it or not. > > > > > > > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > > > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > > > > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > > > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > > > > where I stand? > > > > > > > > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't > > > > you just not bother responding? What difference does > > > > it make what I think? > > > > > > Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal, > > > where people who don't know me might think you're > > > actually telling the truth. > > > > > > > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. > > > > > > And I think you're in denial about how much you > > > suck as a human being. > > > > P.S.: And how RLY RLY STOOOPID > > you are. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
Sal, You're bright, precise, balanced, timely, responsible and interesting. I really, really, really like you. -Mainstream --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > >> > > > Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > > it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > > you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > > for McCain. > > > >> > > > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > > >> like it or not. > > > > > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > > > where I stand? > > > > > > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't > > > you just not bother responding? What difference does > > > it make what I think? > > > > Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal, > > where people who don't know me might think you're > > actually telling the truth. > > > > > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. > > > > And I think you're in denial about how much you > > suck as a human being. > > P.S.: And how RLY RLY STOOOPID > you are. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 7, 2008, at 12:42 AM, sparaig wrote: OK, I'm pretty sure that Judy's account has ben hacked. Yeah, maybe by the same aliens that are making the crop circles. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > >> > > > Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > > it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > > you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > > for McCain. > > > >> > > > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > > >> like it or not. > > > > > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > > > where I stand? > > > > > > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't > > > you just not bother responding? What difference does > > > it make what I think? > > > > Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal, > > where people who don't know me might think you're > > actually telling the truth. > > > > > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. > > > > And I think you're in denial about how much you > > suck as a human being. > > P.S.: And how RLY RLY STOOOPID > you are. > OK, I'm pretty sure that Judy's account has ben hacked. Lawson
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > >> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > >> it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > >> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > >> for McCain. > > > > This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > like it or not. > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > times, that that's not the case. > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > where I stand? > *I* am accusing you of not being aware of where you stand, yourself. Lawson
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:39 PM, authfriend wrote: Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't you just not bother responding? What difference does it make what I think? Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal, where people who don't know me might think you're actually telling the truth. Heaven forbid... I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. And I think you're in denial about how much you suck as a human being. And on that classy note, I'm outta here. :) Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> > > Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > > it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > > you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > > for McCain. > > >> > > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > > >> like it or not. > > > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > > where I stand? > > > > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't > > you just not bother responding? What difference does > > it make what I think? > > Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal, > where people who don't know me might think you're > actually telling the truth. > > > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. > > And I think you're in denial about how much you > suck as a human being. P.S.: And how RLY RLY STOOOPID you are.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > >> > >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > >> > Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > for McCain. > >> > >> This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > >> like it or not. > > > > And you know very well I've been explicit, many > > times, that that's not the case. > > > > Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit > > from you. Are you accusing me of lying about > > where I stand? > > Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't > you just not bother responding? What difference does > it make what I think? Because you're saying it on a public forum, Sal, where people who don't know me might think you're actually telling the truth. > I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. And I think you're in denial about how much you suck as a human being.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:15 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting for McCain. This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, like it or not. And you know very well I've been explicit, many times, that that's not the case. Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit from you. Are you accusing me of lying about where I stand? Judy, if you're so tired of this "shit from me" why don't you just not bother responding? What difference does it make what I think? I think you're either lying or in denial about this issue. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > >> it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > >> you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > >> for McCain. > > This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, > like it or not. And you know very well I've been explicit, many times, that that's not the case. Let's have it out, Sal. I'm tired of this shit from you. Are you accusing me of lying about where I stand?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting for McCain. This is how you're coming across now, Judy, to me at least, like it or not. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:40 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > >> Glad to see you finally agree. :) Have fun on the dark side. > > > > Still waiting for an answer to my question, Sal. > > What do you imagine to be the "dark side" that > > I'm now allegedly on? > > > > I'm asking because last week you said this, > > referring to Palin: > > > > > Judy and Shemp have really hitched themselves > > > to a winner here. > > > > But you're well aware I don't support Palin; you > > were lying. Is "dark side" intended to suggest > > the same lie, just without being specific? > > Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, > it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as > you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting > for McCain. Right, just as I thought, you were lying. Why is it you can't seem to disagree with people without lying about them?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:40 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Glad to see you finally agree. :) Have fun on the dark side. Still waiting for an answer to my question, Sal. What do you imagine to be the "dark side" that I'm now allegedly on? Well, if I referred to the same side shemp is on, it should be obvious, Judy. The repugs, as you seem to be tacitly if not actively rooting for McCain. I didn't realize I needed to spell out something so obvious. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glad to see you finally agree. :) Have fun on the dark side. Still waiting for an answer to my question, Sal. What do you imagine to be the "dark side" that I'm now allegedly on? I'm asking because last week you said this, referring to Palin: > Judy and Shemp have really hitched themselves > to a winner here. But you're well aware I don't support Palin; you were lying. Is "dark side" intended to suggest the same lie, just without being specific? Why is it that you can't seem to disagree with people without lying about them?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 6, 2008, at 7:43 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: On the same note, I was listening to one of those right-wing talk shows the other day and they were commenting on how shocked and taken aback the Democrats were as a result of Sarah Palin's appointment as VP. The host, Hugh Hewitt, said that the Democrats were "regrouping in Mordor." Regrouping? Heck, that's where we live. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Have fun on the dark side. > > Sal > On the same note, I was listening to one of those right-wing talk shows the other day and they were commenting on how shocked and taken aback the Democrats were as a result of Sarah Palin's appointment as VP. The host, Hugh Hewitt, said that the Democrats were "regrouping in Mordor."
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > Gee, I thought it was pretty clear from my > > posts. My ideology hasn't changed, but the > > Democratic Party is no longer in tune with > > it. > > You and Ronnie: "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, > the Democratic Party left me." No, as I said, I've left the Democratic Party. Reagan, I believe, became a Republican, did he not? > > The Dems took over Congress in 2006, but not > > a damn thing has changed; they're still > > kowtowing to the Republicans. > > And as as I recall, Judy, when Barry pointed out to you > that that seemed like what they were gearing up to do, > and then I did as well, you ridiculed us and basically said > that all they needed was time. Nope, you recall incorrectly. What I pointed out repeatedly was that the newly Democratic Congress was *in a position* to turn things around and that we needed to give them a little time before we could determine whether they were going to or not. If I ridiculed you--and I don't believe I did--it would have been for proclaiming something you had no basis for being so certain about. You might want to check out post #123015. Your fave Michael Moore was highly optimistic--more so than I was--about what Congress would accomplish. > Glad to see you finally agree. :) Have fun on the dark side. Just out of curiosity, Sal, what is it in your fevered imagination that you think of as "the dark side" that I'm supposedly now on? I ask because you've lied so often about where I stand; I'm interested to know if you're doing it again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:07 PM, authfriend wrote: Gee, I thought it was pretty clear from my posts. My ideology hasn't changed, but the Democratic Party is no longer in tune with it. You and Ronnie: "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me." The Dems took over Congress in 2006, but not a damn thing has changed; they're still kowtowing to the Republicans. And as as I recall, Judy, when Barry pointed out to you that that seemed like what they were gearing up to do, and then I did as well, you ridiculed us and basically said that all they needed was time. Glad to see you finally agree. :) Have fun on the dark side. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the looks of it, the Democrats are doing a Slick Willie > strategy by trying to triangulate the middle of the road policy > for the American electorate. They're trying to get the > independents and Reagan Democrats to vote for the Obama program. When have they *not* done this? The only way for either party to win is to attract swing voters. > To address the Hillary supporters, the Democrats are thinking of > asking prominent Democratic women, including Hillary, to pitch > for the Democratic agenda. "Thinking of asking"? That's what Hillary promised to do after losing the primary and has been doing ever since. > On the other hand, the Republicans pulled a Sarah Palin to attract > the Hillary voters and independents into their camp. Actually they picked Palin primarily to shore up McCain's very shaky support with the base; he's not conservative enough for many Republican voters. Palin isn't very attractive to most Hillary supporters given her stance on "women's issues," including abortion. > In the end, the determining factors for the election would > be the economy and the war. Which candidate can solve these > problems? He will be the winner. I'm in agreement with Barry on this one. Whoever tells the best story about solving these problems-- but primarily the economy--will win.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
> I'm really liking your political analyses so far. > They very different from the way I see things, but > very interesting. > > I guess my question is whether you really believe > your last sentence. > > I don't. > > I've worked for far too many software companies > that really DID have the Better Mousetrap, and the > world did NOT beat a path to their door. > > I'm more of the opinion that the candidate who casts > the most effective occult glammer about the economy > and the war will be the winner. > > Americans love to be wrapped. Politicians are occult > wrappers. The best wrapper wins. > I agree with you on this one. I believe Marshall McCluhan once said that the medium is the message, or maybe the massage. Also, the movie starring Robert Redford about a presidential candidate [The Selling of a President(?)] may have addressed your point. After being elected president, he asked his handlers at the end of the movie, "what I do now?".
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From the looks of it, the Democrats are doing a Slick Willie > strategy by trying to triangulate the middle of the road policy > for the American electorate. They're trying to get the > independents and Reagan Democrats to vote for the Obama program. > > To address the Hillary supporters, the Democrats are thinking of > asking prominent Democratic women, including Hillary, to pitch for > the Democratic agenda. > > On the other hand, the Republicans pulled a Sarah Palin to attract > the Hillary voters and independents into their camp. > > In the end, the determining factors for the election would be the > economy and the war. Which candidate can solve these problems? He > will be the winner. I'm really liking your political analyses so far. They very different from the way I see things, but very interesting. I guess my question is whether you really believe your last sentence. I don't. I've worked for far too many software companies that really DID have the Better Mousetrap, and the world did NOT beat a path to their door. I'm more of the opinion that the candidate who casts the most effective occult glammer about the economy and the war will be the winner. Americans love to be wrapped. Politicians are occult wrappers. The best wrapper wins.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > [snip] > > > I assume you're a Republican. I'm a progressive > > (albeit no longer a Democrat). Interesting that > > we both have the same take on the current > > happenings, despite, I gather, profound > > ideological differences. > > [snip] > > Could you please elaborate on that, Judy? > > I thought you once said you were a life-long Democrat. > Now you way you are no longer one. > > When did this happen and why? Gee, I thought it was pretty clear from my posts. My ideology hasn't changed, but the Democratic Party is no longer in tune with it. The Dems took over Congress in 2006, but not a damn thing has changed; they're still kowtowing to the Republicans. Then the Democratic leadership decided to go with Obama instead of Hillary even though his commitment to progressive goals is as thin as dishwater. And his supporters behaved abominably toward her and her supporters, as they are now behaving toward Palin, as thuggishly as I've ever seen any Republicans behave. It isn't that it's "all about Hillary"; it's not. What they did to her is a *symptom* of how the party has degenerated. That's the short version.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > . > > > > > > > > There is also yesterday's CBS poll, which gave Obama a 48%- 40% > > lead. > > > > > > > > > > CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied > > > McCain Closes Eight-Point Gap From Poll Taken Last Weekend > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5cnlp8 > > > > > > McCain's Acceptance Speech Draws Bigger Audience Than Obama's > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/629yft > > > > > > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > > > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > > > retraction as the charges are disproved. Dreams of > > > gangbangs and fantasies of nude pictures being > > > posted suggest delirium. > > > > > > It doesn't bode well for the junior Senator from Illinois that > > > his supporters deem it necessary to resort to McCarthyist > > > tactics and have such a striking disconnect with reality. > > > > Don't wanna scare ya, Tom, but I'm in total > > agreement. > > > > I'd just add that *exactly* the same thing > > happened when he was running against Hillary > > in the primaries. (Not dreams of gangbangs or > > nude pictures, natch, but the reverse type of > > sexist insult.) > > > > > Defeatocrats continue to hone the ability to snatch defeat > > > from the jaws of victory. Unbelievable. > > > > I assume you're a Republican. I'm a progressive > > (albeit no longer a Democrat). Interesting that > > we both have the same take on the current > > happenings, despite, I gather, profound > > ideological differences. > > Hell *can* freeze-over Judy. I was very impressed by the > series of posts you made as you ran out of your allotment > of 50. Well, thank you! The postings here on FFL both before and after your > attempts at bringing rationality to the discussion have been > strikingly dubious, completely irrational, and just the type > of thing that can ultimately sink Obama's campaign. > > No, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the > Republican party. I am registered as an Independent after > having been a lifelong Democrat. Likewise. It was the "defeatocrat" term that made me think you were a Republican--I've only heard that used by Republicans, with reference to the Dems' alleged approach to the Iraq War. But you're quite right, it *does* apply to them with regard to the election. The defeatocrat > mentality drove me from the nest. Rick posting that he hopes > McCain dies before Nov. 4, Louis posting that he wants to > gangbang Sarah Palin, and Feste repeatedly posting shockingly > ignorant drivel exemplifies people that have no friggen clue > what it takes to win an election. They are the worst enemy that > the candidate they wish elected could ever have. In fairness, they're picking up this ridiculous attitude from the lefty blogs; they didn't come up with it on their own. They're just not savvy enough to see how absurd it is. > I don't feel I am qualified to comment on what happened > during the Democratic primaries. I don't know why not. Weren't you following them? I sure have no hesitation opining thereon! I have burned a lot of energy > and shoe leather on political campaigns in my life. One of the > lessons learned doing so is to never be surprised where > commonality can be found. It absolutely kills me to see > supporters be the death of hope. Amen and amen, brother.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I assume you're a Republican. I'm a progressive > (albeit no longer a Democrat). Interesting that > we both have the same take on the current > happenings, despite, I gather, profound > ideological differences. > [snip] Could you please elaborate on that, Judy? I thought you once said you were a life-long Democrat. Now you way you are no longer one. When did this happen and why?
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Perhaps someone should acquire a sense of humor . . . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Feste repeatedly posting shockingly > ignorant drivel exemplifies people that have no friggen clue > what it takes to win an election. They are the worst enemy that > the candidate they wish elected could ever have.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
Look again mainstream. Those polls ran Monday-Wednesday. The post-convention bump isn't yet factored. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A bump in the polls is the norm the day after the convention ends. I have > confidence that > Obama will win this election, despite the tendency of Democrats to find a way > to lose. He > has demonstrated sound judgement managing the campaign to date. I have > steadily > growing confidence that he will be a great leader for the country. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > . > > > > > > There is also yesterday's CBS poll, which gave Obama a 48%-40% lead. > > > > > > > CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied > > McCain Closes Eight-Point Gap From Poll Taken Last Weekend > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5cnlp8 > > > > McCain's Acceptance Speech Draws Bigger Audience Than Obama's > > > > http://tinyurl.com/629yft > > > > > > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > > retraction as the charges are disproved. Dreams of > > gangbangs and fantasies of nude pictures being > > posted suggest delirium. > > > > It doesn't bode well for the junior Senator from Illinois that > > his supporters deem it necessary to resort to McCarthyist > > tactics and have such a striking disconnect with reality. > > > > Defeatocrats continue to hone the ability to snatch defeat > > from the jaws of victory. Unbelievable. > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > . > > > > > > There is also yesterday's CBS poll, which gave Obama a 48%-40% > lead. > > > > > > > CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied > > McCain Closes Eight-Point Gap From Poll Taken Last Weekend > > > > http://tinyurl.com/5cnlp8 > > > > McCain's Acceptance Speech Draws Bigger Audience Than Obama's > > > > http://tinyurl.com/629yft > > > > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > > retraction as the charges are disproved. Dreams of > > gangbangs and fantasies of nude pictures being > > posted suggest delirium. > > > > It doesn't bode well for the junior Senator from Illinois that > > his supporters deem it necessary to resort to McCarthyist > > tactics and have such a striking disconnect with reality. > > Don't wanna scare ya, Tom, but I'm in total > agreement. > > I'd just add that *exactly* the same thing > happened when he was running against Hillary > in the primaries. (Not dreams of gangbangs or > nude pictures, natch, but the reverse type of > sexist insult.) > > > Defeatocrats continue to hone the ability to snatch defeat > > from the jaws of victory. Unbelievable. > > I assume you're a Republican. I'm a progressive > (albeit no longer a Democrat). Interesting that > we both have the same take on the current > happenings, despite, I gather, profound > ideological differences. > Hell *can* freeze-over Judy. I was very impressed by the series of posts you made as you ran out of your allotment of 50. The postings here on FFL both before and after your attempts at bringing rationality to the discussion have been strikingly dubious, completely irrational, and just the type of thing that can ultimately sink Obama's campaign. No, I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the Republican party. I am registered as an Independent after having been a lifelong Democrat. The defeatocrat mentality drove me from the nest. Rick posting that he hopes McCain dies before Nov. 4, Louis posting that he wants to gangbang Sarah Palin, and Feste repeatedly posting shockingly ignorant drivel exemplifies people that have no friggen clue what it takes to win an election. They are the worst enemy that the candidate they wish elected could ever have. I don't feel I am qualified to comment on what happened during the Democratic primaries. I have burned a lot of energy and shoe leather on political campaigns in my life. One of the lessons learned doing so is to never be surprised where commonality can be found. It absolutely kills me to see supporters be the death of hope.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
A bump in the polls is the norm the day after the convention ends. I have confidence that Obama will win this election, despite the tendency of Democrats to find a way to lose. He has demonstrated sound judgement managing the campaign to date. I have steadily growing confidence that he will be a great leader for the country. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > . > > > > There is also yesterday's CBS poll, which gave Obama a 48%-40% lead. > > > > CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied > McCain Closes Eight-Point Gap From Poll Taken Last Weekend > > http://tinyurl.com/5cnlp8 > > McCain's Acceptance Speech Draws Bigger Audience Than Obama's > > http://tinyurl.com/629yft > > > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > retraction as the charges are disproved. Dreams of > gangbangs and fantasies of nude pictures being > posted suggest delirium. > > It doesn't bode well for the junior Senator from Illinois that > his supporters deem it necessary to resort to McCarthyist > tactics and have such a striking disconnect with reality. > > Defeatocrats continue to hone the ability to snatch defeat > from the jaws of victory. Unbelievable. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Reason For Attacks on Palin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > . > > > > There is also yesterday's CBS poll, which gave Obama a 48%-40% lead. > > > > CBS Poll: McCain, Obama Tied > McCain Closes Eight-Point Gap From Poll Taken Last Weekend > > http://tinyurl.com/5cnlp8 > > McCain's Acceptance Speech Draws Bigger Audience Than Obama's > > http://tinyurl.com/629yft > > I find it interesting that the hysterical mudslinging that > has occurred here on FFL is never followed by any > retraction as the charges are disproved. Dreams of > gangbangs and fantasies of nude pictures being > posted suggest delirium. > > It doesn't bode well for the junior Senator from Illinois that > his supporters deem it necessary to resort to McCarthyist > tactics and have such a striking disconnect with reality. Don't wanna scare ya, Tom, but I'm in total agreement. I'd just add that *exactly* the same thing happened when he was running against Hillary in the primaries. (Not dreams of gangbangs or nude pictures, natch, but the reverse type of sexist insult.) > Defeatocrats continue to hone the ability to snatch defeat > from the jaws of victory. Unbelievable. I assume you're a Republican. I'm a progressive (albeit no longer a Democrat). Interesting that we both have the same take on the current happenings, despite, I gather, profound ideological differences.
