[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Knowing Rick's moderation style, the likelihood of him booting any of you guys is nil. However, during your last little vacation, things were pretty mellow around here. One solution: you deliver one of your usual grandiose, self-important forum farewells and kick yourself off FFL for a few months. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Just one comment: This is the guy who went ballistic a few weeks ago and accused me of wanting to restrict what people are allowed to see on television. Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider this post my vote for this drastic solution, and my agreement to abide by it without the least bit of fuss. If you agree, follow up on this thread and submit your own vote. I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. It seems there are some preconceived ideas about what this forum is and isn't. Treat it like a continuously evolving piece of art, or like the weather. It appears to me to have a very fluid nature, which is interesting to watch. Just relax and it will transform itself once again. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Just one comment: This is the guy who went ballistic a few weeks ago and accused me of wanting to restrict what people are allowed to see on television. Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony. And SO FAR, Judy has not even acknowledged that there is even an ISSUE surrounding her. Unlike Sparaig, who was at least honest enough to say that he considers the legitimate complaints that people have been making about his posting behavior a joke and that he has no plans to change anything, Judy has as far as I know not even acknowledged that there has even *been* such a discussion. She CERTAINLY has not made any post suggesting that she's heard the complaints, has considered them, and is willing to try to *change* the behavior that people have been complaining about. Therefore, what does she suggest that people on FFL *DO*? She's ignoring the whole issue, hoping that it will go away so she can keep posting as often and as inappropriately as she wants. The only thing that's gotten her attention so far is my suggestion that she be banned from the group for several months. I would suggest to the FFL moderators that this should tell you something. She won't self-correct. Some action is going to be necessary from your side if you want to change things, and this is the ONLY thing she has responded to so far. Give the bitch a time out of several months and then let her come back and at that point see if she's learned anything and proceed accordingly. That's not censorship, that's taking an agressive but compassionate approach with someone who is out of control and who has demonstrated that she's not sane enough to try to re-establish control herself. To make it fair, revoke my posting rights for exactly as long as you revoke hers. Or, as Alex has suggested, ask me to leave if you think that'll cut down on her and Sparaig's hysteria. Whatever you think will help, I am willing to do it without coercion. I think Judy has established that she is not. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
For those who have joined FFL within the past year, FFL has always had ups and downs, wild posters, characters flaring up, overposters etc -They stay for a few months, seem to recover, continue on at FFL or leave and drop in again from time to time. But this current situation has settled into what appears to be a compulsion. Maybe this is the sitatuion most chat groups are going to find as time passes. Since this is a community, then setting some limits is one option. Setting limits should help make things here more reasonable for everyone and give overposters some structure within which to function. Who is going to do this, however? Rick is busy and has a very full life, and I do not know if he agrees with the principle behind this idea. He might want to let FFL remains as a looser spot without these types of limits. That is another option, just continue as is and do your own filtering out of overposters. The downside of that is that FFL won't be getting as many new people to sign on in the future, however because looking at a typical page of 30 posts isnot too inviting anymore. If it comes to a vote, I vote to set limits. 300 to 400 posts per month is enough for anyone to contribute in one forum- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that they are going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly gentle and kind terms. In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject as if it were a joke, Indeed. [...] I think we have to assume that neither of them thinks that their level of posting IS excessive. Therefore they're not going to change. [a rather large number of lines snipt] Correct. In that case, I revise my proposal, because with this reply it's clear that the two of them have decided that they are in a confront- ational relationship with Fairfield Life, and have every intention of keeping things that way. So far this month, the more that people have nicely tried to tell them that they're posting too often, and inappropriately, the *more* they post, and the more *inappropriately* they post. It's 'way past time for being nice. Judy and Lawson have made it clear that they're not going to *respond* to nice. So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Consider this post my vote for this drastic solution, and my agreement to abide by it without the least bit of fuss. If you agree, follow up on this thread and submit your own vote. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who have joined FFL within the past year, FFL has always had ups and downs, wild posters, characters flaring up, overposters etc -They stay for a few months, seem to recover, continue on at FFL or leave and drop in again from time to time. But this current situation has settled into what appears to be a compulsion. Maybe this is the sitatuion most chat groups are going to find as time passes. Since this is a community, then setting some limits is one option. Setting limits should help make things here more reasonable for everyone and give overposters some structure within which to function. Who is going to do this, however? Rick is busy and has a very full life, and I do not know if he agrees with the principle behind this idea. He might want to let FFL remains as a looser spot without these types of limits. That is another option, just continue as is and do your own filtering out of overposters. The downside of that is that FFL won't be getting as many new people to sign on in the future, however because looking at a typical page of 30 posts isnot too inviting anymore. If it comes to a vote, I vote to set limits. 300 to 400 posts per month is enough for anyone to contribute in one forum- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that they are going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly gentle and kind terms. In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject as if it were a joke, Indeed. [...] I think we have to assume that neither of them thinks that their level of posting IS excessive. Therefore they're not going to change. [a rather large number of lines snipt] Correct. In that case, I revise my proposal, because with this reply it's clear that the two of them have decided that they are in a confront- ational relationship with Fairfield Life, and have every intention of keeping things that way. So far this month, the more that people have nicely tried to tell them that they're posting too often, and inappropriately, the *more* they post, and the more *inappropriately* they post. It's 'way past time for being nice. Judy and Lawson have made it clear that they're not going to *respond* to nice. So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Consider this post my vote for this drastic solution, and my agreement to abide by it without the least bit of fuss. If you agree, follow up on this thread and submit your own vote. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. And SO FAR, Judy has not even acknowledged that there is even an ISSUE surrounding her. Unlike Sparaig, who was at least honest enough to say that he considers the legitimate complaints that people have been making about his posting behavior a joke and that he has no plans to change anything, Judy has as far as I know not even acknowledged that there has even *been* such a discussion. She CERTAINLY has not made any post suggesting that she's heard the complaints, has considered them, and is willing to try to *change* the behavior that people have been complaining about. Therefore, what does she suggest that people on FFL *DO*? She's ignoring the whole issue, hoping that it will go away so she can keep posting as often and as inappropriately as she wants. The only thing that's gotten her attention so far is my suggestion that she be banned from the group for several months. I would suggest to the FFL moderators that this should tell you something. She won't self-correct. Some action is going to be necessary from your side if you want to change things, and this is the ONLY thing she has responded to so far. Give the bitch a time out of several months and then let her come back and at that point see if she's learned anything and proceed accordingly. That's not censorship, that's taking an agressive but compassionate approach with someone who is out of control and who has demonstrated that she's not sane enough to try to re-establish control herself. To make it fair, revoke my posting rights for exactly as long as you revoke hers. Or, as Alex has suggested, ask me to leave if you think that'll cut down on her and Sparaig's hysteria. Whatever you think will help, I am willing to do it without coercion. I think Judy has established that she is not. Barry, I appreciate your honesty about dealing with your role in all of this. Thank you. You need to ignore the others, though. You so obviously have long-standing issues with them. You MUST NEVER READ their posts. Disengage. You are getting pulled down. If you can, stay focused on yourself. Your day will go better, you will feel happier. I often like your posts when they are not about Judy, but your own compulsion is to read Judy's and/or react to her. She has you hooked, and you have her hooked. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. And a few of us find it amazing that most of you on this purportedly spiritual forum *don't* give a sh*t about who said what when (read: who told what lies when) and who's the hypocrite (and/or liar) now. So where does this disagreement about priorities leave us? Obviously we few are outnumbered by those who find our opposition to lying and hypocrisy banal. Should the minority viewpoint be suppressed to protect the majority from being exposed to what they consider banality? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The only thing that's gotten her attention so far is my suggestion that she be banned from the group for several months. I would suggest to the FFL moderators that this should tell you something. She won't self-correct. Some action is going to be necessary from your side if you want to change things, and this is the ONLY thing she has responded to so far. Give the bitch a time out of several months and then let her come back and at that point see if she's learned anything and proceed accordingly. That's not censorship, that's taking an agressive but compassionate approach with someone who is out of control and who has demonstrated that she's not sane enough to try to re-establish control herself. What Barry insisted was censorship with regard to the 9/11 film on ABC was the appeals to ABC to choose to do something about the situation on its own. In no case did I or anyone else suggest that if ABC refused to take appropriate measures, it should be *forced* to withdraw the film or reschedule it or even give opposing viewpoints a chance to be heard. Barry Wright, Master of the Double Standard. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that they are going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly gentle and kind terms. In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject as if it were a joke, Indeed. [...] I think we have to assume that neither of them thinks that their level of posting IS excessive. Therefore they're not going to change. [a rather large number of lines snipt] Correct. In that case, I revise my proposal, because with this reply it's clear that the two of them have decided that they are in a confront- ational relationship with Fairfield Life, and have every intention of keeping things that way. So far this month, the more that people have nicely tried to tell them that they're posting too often, and inappropriately, the *more* they post, and the more *inappropriately* they post. It's 'way past time for being nice. Judy and Lawson have made it clear that they're not going to *respond* to nice. So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Shemp is a fine humanitarian and a wonderful human being. Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Consider this post my vote for this drastic solution, and my agreement to abide by it without the least bit of fuss. If you agree, follow up on this thread and submit your own vote. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. And a few of us find it amazing that most of you on this purportedly spiritual forum *don't* give a sh*t about who said what when (read: who told what lies when) and who's the hypocrite (and/or liar) now. I don't find it the least bit amazing that people on a purportedly spiritual forum don't give a shit about the particulars of a personal spat that started a decade ago on an entirely different forum. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. I hardly find Shemp's postings either banal or uninteresting. --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who have joined FFL within the past year, FFL has always had ups and downs, wild posters, characters flaring up, overposters etc -They stay for a few months, seem to recover, continue on at FFL or leave and drop in again from time to time. But this current situation has settled into what appears to be a compulsion. Maybe this is the sitatuion most chat groups are going to find as time passes. Since this is a community, then setting some limits is one option. Setting limits should help make things here more reasonable for everyone and give overposters some structure within which to function. Who is going to do this, however? Rick is busy and has a very full life, and I do not know if he agrees with the principle behind this idea. He might want to let FFL remains as a looser spot without these types of limits. That is another option, just continue as is and do your own filtering out of overposters. The downside of that is that FFL won't be getting as many new people to sign on in the future, however because looking at a typical page of 30 posts isnot too inviting anymore. If it comes to a vote, I vote to set limits. 300 to 400 posts per month is enough for anyone to contribute in one forum- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that they are going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly gentle and kind terms. In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject as if it were a joke, Indeed. [...] I think we have to assume that neither of them thinks that their level of posting IS excessive. Therefore they're not going to change. [a rather large number of lines snipt] Correct. In that case, I revise my proposal, because with this reply it's clear that the two of them have decided that they are in a confront- ational relationship with Fairfield Life, and have every intention of keeping things that way. So far this month, the more that people have nicely tried to tell them that they're posting too often, and inappropriately, the *more* they post, and the more *inappropriately* they post. It's 'way past time for being nice. Judy and Lawson have made it clear that they're not going to *respond* to nice. So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Consider this post my vote for this drastic solution, and my agreement to abide by it without the least bit of fuss. If you agree, follow up on this thread and submit your own vote. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. I hardly find Shemp's postings either banal or uninteresting. Yeah, I enjoy Shemp too. I guess I'm referring more to Judy and Barry's ongoing battle. Really insane. --- wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those who have joined FFL within the past year, FFL has always had ups and downs, wild posters, characters flaring up, overposters etc -They stay for a few months, seem to recover, continue on at FFL or leave and drop in again from time to time. But this current situation has settled into what appears to be a compulsion. Maybe this is the sitatuion most chat groups are going to find as time passes. Since this is a community, then setting some limits is one option. Setting limits should help make things here more reasonable for everyone and give overposters some structure within which to function. Who is going to do this, however? Rick is busy and has a very full life, and I do not know if he agrees with the principle behind this idea. He might want to let FFL remains as a looser spot without these types of limits. That is another option, just continue as is and do your own filtering out of overposters. The downside of that is that FFL won't be getting as many new people to sign on in the future, however because looking at a typical page of 30 posts isnot too inviting anymore. If it comes to a vote, I vote to set limits. 300 to 400 posts per month is enough for anyone to contribute in one forum- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that they are going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly gentle and kind terms. In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject as if it were a joke, Indeed. [...] I think we have to assume that neither of them thinks that their level of posting IS excessive. Therefore they're not going to change. [a rather large number of lines snipt] Correct. In that case, I revise my proposal, because with this reply it's clear that the two of them have decided that they are in a confront- ational relationship with Fairfield Life, and have every intention of keeping things that way. So far this month, the more that people have nicely tried to tell them that they're posting too often, and inappropriately, the *more* they post, and the more *inappropriately* they post. It's 'way past time for being nice. Judy and Lawson have made it clear that they're not going to *respond* to nice. So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Given Sparaig's reply and the incredibly adolescent hostility behind it, and given Judy's failure to acknowledge that the number of her posts and the tone of them is even an *issue*, I think there is no other alternative. Neither of these people is going to either self-correct or play nice with any imposed restriction on their posts. Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. And as in Aliens, I honestly think that at this point your only choice is to take off and nuke the whole planet from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Consider this post my vote for this drastic solution, and my agreement to abide by it without the least bit of fuss. If you agree, follow up on this thread and submit your own vote. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
Judy nobody cares about your personal grudge against Barry. They just don't care. Your endless convoluted posts proving what a liar he is are insane. You are only proving it to yourself. Do you really think people follow your proofs of Barry's hypocrisy or lies? Start your own group or personally mail each other. Why don't you just not respond to his posts? when you guys arn't attacking each other in this insane manner your post are insightful and intelligent. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. And a few of us find it amazing that most of you on this purportedly spiritual forum *don't* give a sh*t about who said what when (read: who told what lies when) and who's the hypocrite (and/or liar) now. So where does this disagreement about priorities leave us? Obviously we few are outnumbered by those who find our opposition to lying and hypocrisy banal. Should the minority viewpoint be suppressed to protect the majority from being exposed to what they consider banality? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Just one last statistic, because it's relevant to Alex's solution -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Knowing Rick's moderation style, the likelihood of him booting any of you guys is nil. However, during your [Barry's] last little vacation, things were pretty mellow around here. I might suggest that this is a subjective perception. :-) In terms of actual numbers, August (when I was away from FFL) was one of sparaig's and authfriend's *highest ever* posting months. July: -- authfriend - 647 posts, 15.4% of total -- sparaig -- 506 posts, 12.0% of total August: -- authfriend - 664 posts, 15.5% of total -- sparaig -- 679 posts, 15.8% of total One solution: you deliver one of your usual grandiose, self-important forum farewells and kick yourself off FFL for a few months. If I thought it would work, I'd do it. But statistics show that it not only doesn't help, their posting rate actually GOES UP when I'm not around. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Again, I *apologize* for having mentioned this group on AMT a year ago. If I hadn't you wouldn't have been faced with this alien infestation. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,.welcome to American, where are you papers Senior!?!?!? Racist! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution on 9/22/06 8:33 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who is going to do this, however? Rick is busy and has a very full life, and I do not know if he agrees with the principle behind this idea. He might want to let FFL remains as a looser spot without these types of limits. That is another option, just continue as is and do your own filtering out of overposters. The downside of that is that FFL won't be getting as many new people to sign on in the future, however because looking at a typical page of 30 posts isnot too inviting anymore. If it comes to a vote, I vote to set limits. 300 to 400 posts per month is enough for anyone to contribute in one forum- If there were a very easy way to monitor volume and quality of posts and impose some sort of restriction, I might consider it. But it would have to be something I didnt have to invest much time in. I favor the solution of having people delete or killfile all posts from the abusers, but this would deprive them of the insightful things these people occasionally say. And it takes a while for new members to learn about this. Unfortunately, people often subscribe then unsubscribe a few days later because they are overwhelmed with volume of useless posts. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution on 9/22/06 8:52 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, I appreciate your honesty about dealing with your role in all of this. Thank you. You need to ignore the others, though. You so obviously have long-standing issues with them. You MUST NEVER READ their posts. Disengage. You are getting pulled down. If you can, stay focused on yourself. Your day will go better, you will feel happier. I often like your posts when they are not about Judy, but your own compulsion is to read Judy's and/or react to her. She has you hooked, and you have her hooked. I like this suggestion. Youre one of my favorite posters, Barry. But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why dont you take ignoring Judys posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you dont engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: It appears that the people who overpost are not stepping up and saying that they are going to change or that they care about or understand what the FFL community has said to them, in fairly gentle and kind terms. In fact, Sparaig has treated the whole subject as if it were a joke, Indeed. [...] I think we have to assume that neither of them thinks that their level of posting IS excessive. Therefore they're not going to change. [a rather large number of lines snipt] Correct. In that case, I revise my proposal, because with this reply it's clear that the two of them have decided that they are in a confront- ational relationship with Fairfield Life, and have every intention of keeping things that way. [Even more lines stnip] You're a very manipulative fellow, did you know that? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: [snip] So boot them out altogether, and boot me out to keep things fair, and to make up for me having stupidly brought them here. Cut all three of us off for a period of several months (for example, until the beginning of 2007), and give Fairfield Life a chance to find its own level and return to some semblance of normal, without any of the three of us present. I don't think Shemp will be a problem if we're not here. Knowing Rick's moderation style, the likelihood of him booting any of you guys is nil. However, during your last little vacation, things were pretty mellow around here. One solution: you deliver one of your usual grandiose, self-important forum farewells and kick yourself off FFL for a few months. S... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If it comes to a vote, I vote to set limits. 300 to 400 posts per month is enough for anyone to contribute in one forum- No limit of total number of lines, snipt or unsnipt? [snipt Barry]s original tirade] To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. [snipt quite a few lines] I guess I'm still the only one here who never snips extraneous lines of text... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. I hardly find Shemp's postings either banal or uninteresting. Yeah, I enjoy Shemp too. I guess I'm referring more to Judy and Barry's ongoing battle. Really insane. [ludicrous number of lines snipt] Howcome everyone blasts MOI for never snipping when in fact, everyone does it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one last statistic, because it's relevant to Alex's solution -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Knowing Rick's moderation style, the likelihood of him booting any of you guys is nil. However, during your [Barry's] last little vacation, things were pretty mellow around here. I might suggest that this is a subjective perception. :-) In terms of actual numbers, August (when I was away from FFL) was one of sparaig's and authfriend's *highest ever* posting months. [...] If I thought it would work, I'd do it. But statistics show that it not only doesn't help, their posting rate actually GOES UP when I'm not around. So, in your mind, mellow = reduced number of lines? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/22/06 8:52 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, I appreciate your honesty about dealing with your role in all of this. Thank you. You need to ignore the others, though. You so obviously have long-standing issues with them. You MUST NEVER READ their posts. Disengage. You are getting pulled down. If you can, stay focused on yourself. Your day will go better, you will feel happier. I often like your posts when they are not about Judy, but your own compulsion is to read Judy's and/or react to her. She has you hooked, and you have her hooked. I like this suggestion. You¹re one of my favorite posters, Barry. But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why don¹t you take ignoring Judy¹s posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you don¹t engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. As I posted in response to Alex, statistically this has never been true. Both on a.m.t. and here, during those periods when I ignore her it seems to send her into more of a frenzy. But I agree with both of you that it would be a better approach, so I'll give it another shot. I don't think this will help with the overposting issue, though. If it works here the way it has in the past on a.m.t., she'll respond by trying to pick fights with other poor posters here as soon as I step out of the line of fire. My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. But yes, I agree with both of you. Making ignoring her a kind of warrior's challenge is the only thing that makes sense at this point. Wish me luck with it... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. I hardly find Shemp's postings either banal or uninteresting. [large number of extraneous lines snipt] Well you WOULD (said in best Stan Laurel -pontification-style). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution on 9/22/06 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. So maybe one by one, well all learn not to engage in squabbles with her. I already do that. Ill respond to reasonable requests for clarification, elaboration, etc., but if I see a pissing contest brewing, I hit the delete button. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
But yes, I agree with both of you. Making ignoring her a kind of warrior's challenge is the only thing that makes sense at this point. Wish me luck with it... Not only can it be done, but it is completely worth it. There is so much more going on here that gets missed when you are caught in that loop. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/22/06 8:52 AM, wayback71 at wayback71@ wrote: Barry, I appreciate your honesty about dealing with your role in all of this. Thank you. You need to ignore the others, though. You so obviously have long-standing issues with them. You MUST NEVER READ their posts. Disengage. You are getting pulled down. If you can, stay focused on yourself. Your day will go better, you will feel happier. I often like your posts when they are not about Judy, but your own compulsion is to read Judy's and/or react to her. She has you hooked, and you have her hooked. I like this suggestion. You¹re one of my favorite posters, Barry. But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why don¹t you take ignoring Judy¹s posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you don¹t engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. As I posted in response to Alex, statistically this has never been true. Both on a.m.t. and here, during those periods when I ignore her it seems to send her into more of a frenzy. But I agree with both of you that it would be a better approach, so I'll give it another shot. I don't think this will help with the overposting issue, though. If it works here the way it has in the past on a.m.t., she'll respond by trying to pick fights with other poor posters here as soon as I step out of the line of fire. My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. But yes, I agree with both of you. Making ignoring her a kind of warrior's challenge is the only thing that makes sense at this point. Wish me luck with it... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/22/06 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. So maybe one by one, we¹ll all learn not to engage in squabbles with her. A good way to look at it. It's like having one's own personal Castanedan petty tyrant. If you're not familiar with that concept, here's a long but entertaining explanation from The Fire From Within: http://www.terebess.hu/english/fire1.html#2 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just one last statistic, because it's relevant to Alex's solution -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Knowing Rick's moderation style, the likelihood of him booting any of you guys is nil. However, during your [Barry's] last little vacation, things were pretty mellow around here. I might suggest that this is a subjective perception. :-) In terms of actual numbers, August (when I was away from FFL) was one of sparaig's and authfriend's *highest ever* posting months. But, the *content* wasn't the Barry Judy Hatefest Extravaganza, and I don't recall it being endless meta discussion, either. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
I applaud Turq for his creatively thinking about how can we make this thing work. And I like the direction of his suggestions. They offer some good refinements, and practicalities, over what i suggested yesterday. In that spirit of creative problem solving, diologue and refinement, I offer the following encouragement and refinements: 1) I agree that some fixed number of posts per time period is easier to implment and more practical than my suggested % of posts. I think 7-10 posts a day is a good upper limit. I do suggest a refinment in the time period. I think a month may be a bit too long a monitoring period. If someone is on a compulsive, venting or minutia jag, it may be better for them to send them more immediate feedback. And keeps FFL from being choked during the 2-3 week lead up to their reaching their limits. Thus I suggest: * a limit of 70 posts for any 7 day period. Thats 10 posts per day. * voluntary monitors. Thus it would not take any of the moderators time -- other than to pull the plug on someone, and reinstate them (30 seconds). Thus if someones posts seem excessive, anyone can pull the stats, post them, and if non-disputed, moderators will pull the plug. * time-outs would be one week for the first two time-outs. Two weeks thereafter. This is not as harsh as a full months suspension. And may be enough feed-back for those seeking to become responsive and cordial FFL citizens. - As far as immediate suspension of Judy, Sparaig and Shemp, while i feel that may hve some merit, it is sort of an ex post facto imposition of new rules. And without self-governing guidelines for FFL -- an separate initiative i am working on -- its not practical IMO. I do feel some action is appropriate given today, Sparaig's, (and shemp's to a degree) childish response to a serious issue. Total snubbing of noses, and no acknowledgement of their abuse of FFL, nor any constructive diologue. And Judy's only response appears to be to bash Barry. Again and Again. No acknowledgment, no constructive diologue. Thus I suggest the following -- echoing and perhaps extending the suggestions of others. It can be done immediately. No need for Ricks approval. For one month: * Do not under any circumstances respond to any post of these three (Sparaig, Judy and Shemp) -- directly or indirectly (referencing it in a post to others). * Do not under any circumstances respond to any poster who does continue responding to these three. My sense is that without fuel of posts to bounced off of, these three will pretty much dry up. Or at least reduce posts of self-declarations and self-importance. And if they hyper-react with 100's of silly see me posts -- it simply builds a case for the need for explicit time-out rules. As an alternative, I suggest the following -- something that we as posters can implement immediately. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution I applaud Turq for his creatively thinking about how can we make this thing work. And I like the direction of his suggestions. They offer some good refinements, and practicalities, over what i suggested yesterday. In that spirit of creative problem solving, diologue and refinement, I offer the following encouragement and refinements: 1) I agree that some fixed number of posts per time period is easier to implment and more practical than my suggested % of posts. I think 7-10 posts a day is a good upper limit. I do suggest a refinment in the time period. I think a month may be a bit too long a monitoring period. If someone is on a compulsive, venting or minutia jag, it may be better for them to send them more immediate feedback. And keeps FFL from being choked during the 2-3 week lead up to their reaching their limits. Thus I suggest: * a limit of 70 posts for any 7 day period. Thats 10 posts per day. * voluntary monitors. Thus it would not take any of the moderators time -- other than to pull the plug on someone, and reinstate them (30 seconds). Thus if someones posts seem excessive, anyone can pull the stats, post them, and if non-disputed, moderators will pull the plug. * time-outs would be one week for the first two time-outs. Two weeks thereafter. This is not as harsh as a full months suspension. And may be enough feed-back for those seeking to become responsive and cordial FFL citizens. - As far as immediate suspension of Judy, Sparaig and Shemp, while i feel that may hve some merit, it is sort of an ex post facto imposition of new rules. And without self-governing guidelines for FFL -- an separate initiative i am working on -- its not practical IMO. I do feel some action is appropriate given today, Sparaig's, (and shemp's to a degree) childish response to a serious issue. Total snubbing of noses, and no acknowledgement of their abuse of FFL, nor any constructive diologue. And Judy's only response appears to be to bash Barry. Again and Again. No acknowledgment, no constructive diologue. Thus I suggest the following -- echoing and perhaps extending the suggestions of others. It can be done immediately. No need for Ricks approval. For one month: * Do not under any circumstances respond to any post of these three (Sparaig, Judy and Shemp) -- directly or indirectly (referencing it in a post to others). * Do not under any circumstances respond to any poster who does continue responding to these three. My sense is that without fuel of posts to bounced off of, these three will pretty much dry up. Or at least reduce posts of self-declarations and self-importance. And if they hyper-react with 100's of silly see me posts -- it simply builds a case for the need for explicit time-out rules. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. And a few of us find it amazing that most of you on this purportedly spiritual forum *don't* give a sh*t about who said what when (read: who told what lies when) and who's the hypocrite (and/or liar) now. I don't find it the least bit amazing that people on a purportedly spiritual forum don't give a shit about the particulars of a personal spat that started a decade ago on an entirely different forum. But it isn't just a personal spat. I'm not the only person by any means that Barry attacks and lies about. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy nobody cares about your personal grudge against Barry. They just don't care. Your endless convoluted posts proving what a liar he is are insane. You are only proving it to yourself. Do you really think people follow your proofs of Barry's hypocrisy or lies? Again, it isn't just a personal grudge. I'm hardly his only target. And it isn't even a *grudge*, because the offenses are constantly renewed. If I'd never encountered him before in my life, I'd find his hypocrisy and lies offensive. What astonishes me is that most of the rest of you don't find them offensive. Start your own group or personally mail each other. Why don't you just not respond to his posts? You mean, when he lies about Lawson or me or TMers in general? People read his posts. In many cases they aren't in a position to know he's lying. Don't you even find his censorship campaign offensive? It's just mind-boggling. when you guys arn't attacking each other in this insane manner your post are insightful and intelligent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I like this suggestion. You¹re one of my favorite posters, Barry. Amazing. But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why don¹t you take ignoring Judy¹s posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you don¹t engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. Exactly as I said a couple of posts ago. If Barry could be persuaded to stop *attacking* people, it would cut way down on both the volume and the ill feeling. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As I posted in response to Alex, statistically this has never been true. Both on a.m.t. and here, during those periods when I ignore her it seems to send her into more of a frenzy. But I agree with both of you that it would be a better approach, so I'll give it another shot. I don't think this will help with the overposting issue, though. If it works here the way it has in the past on a.m.t., she'll respond by trying to pick fights with other poor posters here as soon as I step out of the line of fire. My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. But yes, I agree with both of you. Making ignoring her a kind of warrior's challenge is the only thing that makes sense at this point. Wish me luck with it... Try dealing with the world as it is for a change, instead of creating these incredible fantasies about me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/22/06 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. So maybe one by one, we¹ll all learn not to engage in squabbles with her. You *do* realize Barry's description in the post you're responding to is total fantasy, right? Or have you actually bought into it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I do feel some action is appropriate given today, Sparaig's, (and shemp's to a degree) childish response to a serious issue. Total snubbing of noses, and no acknowledgement of their abuse of FFL, nor any constructive diologue. Just how do you acknowledge something you don't believe to be the case? And Judy's only response appears to be to bash Barry. Not that Barry was bashing me or anything, poor innocent lamb that he is. horselaugh Is that your idea of constructive dialogue? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution I applaud Turq for his creatively thinking about how can we make this thing work. And I like the direction of his suggestions. They offer some good refinements, and practicalities, over what i suggested yesterday. In that spirit of creative problem solving, diologue and refinement, I offer the following encouragement and refinements: 1) I agree that some fixed number of posts per time period is easier to implment and more practical than my suggested % of posts. I think 7-10 posts a day is a good upper limit. I do suggest a refinment in the time period. I think a month may be a bit too long a monitoring period. If someone is on a compulsive, venting or minutia jag, it may be better for them to send them more immediate feedback. And keeps FFL from being choked during the 2-3 week lead up to their reaching their limits. Thus I suggest: * a limit of 70 posts for any 7 day period. Thats 10 posts per day. * voluntary monitors. Thus it would not take any of the moderators time -- other than to pull the plug on someone, and reinstate them (30 seconds). Thus if someones posts seem excessive, anyone can pull the stats, post them, and if non-disputed, moderators will pull the plug. Count mine as a no vote. Not that I care THAT much, but since I obviously enjoy posting, I'll weigh in as opposing the whole thing as silly. And you know it, of course.: You're being every bit as anal as Judy or Barry. Is this a long- term parody on your part, perhaps? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip I like this suggestion. You¹re one of my favorite posters, Barry. Amazing. But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why don¹t you take ignoring Judy¹s posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you don¹t engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. Exactly as I said a couple of posts ago. If Barry could be persuaded to stop *attacking* people, it would cut way down on both the volume and the ill feeling. Er, goes both ways, Judy... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution [...] I do feel some action is appropriate given today, Sparaig's, (and shemp's to a degree) childish response to a serious issue. Total snubbing of noses, and no acknowledgement of their abuse of FFL, nor any constructive diologue. And Judy's only response appears to be to bash Barry. Again and Again. No acknowledgment, no constructive diologue. Guffaw. What serious proposal? 99% of the people who are registered on this forum have never weighed in one way or another. Your call for a 2/3 vote was silly, and you know it. My call for weighting the vote according to participation was equally silly, but at least mine has the merit of acknolwedging that either most people don't care or aren't bothering to monitor this discussion... ...assuming that they are still reading, since many people haven't contributed in YEARS, as far as I can tell. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Exactly as I said a couple of posts ago. If Barry could be persuaded to stop *attacking* people, it would cut way down on both the volume and the ill feeling. Er, goes both ways, Judy... No, Lawson, it really doesn't. I'll respond to attacks, but unlike Barry, I very rarely *initiate* them. If fewer attacks are initiated, I'll be making fewer responses. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip I like this suggestion. You¹re one of my favorite posters, Barry. Amazing. But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why don¹t you take ignoring Judy¹s posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you don¹t engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. Exactly as I said a couple of posts ago. If Barry could be persuaded to stop *attacking* people, it would cut way down on both the volume and the ill feeling. Barry's being paid off by the Bile and Phlegm industry. They know that they more he eggs you on, the more of their natural resource is available in New Jersey. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Judy nobody cares about your personal grudge against Barry. They just don't care. Your endless convoluted posts proving what a liar he is are insane. You are only proving it to yourself. Do you really think people follow your proofs of Barry's hypocrisy or lies? Again, it isn't just a personal grudge. I'm hardly his only target. And it isn't even a *grudge*, because the offenses are constantly renewed. If I'd never encountered him before in my life, I'd find his hypocrisy and lies offensive. What astonishes me is that most of the rest of you don't find them offensive. Start your own group or personally mail each other. Why don't you just not respond to his posts? You mean, when he lies about Lawson or me or TMers in general? People read his posts. In many cases they aren't in a position to know he's lying. Don't you even find his censorship campaign offensive? Barry's on a censorship campaign? What fucking planet are you on, Missy? It's just mind-boggling. when you guys arn't attacking each other in this insane manner your post are insightful and intelligent. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: I find it amazing that the compulsive posters utterly fail to recognize the banality of their posts and the fact that most of us just don't give a sh*t about who said what when and who's the hypocrit now. And a few of us find it amazing that most of you on this purportedly spiritual forum *don't* give a sh*t about who said what when (read: who told what lies when) and who's the hypocrite (and/or liar) now. I don't find it the least bit amazing that people on a purportedly spiritual forum don't give a shit about the particulars of a personal spat that started a decade ago on an entirely different forum. But it isn't just a personal spat. I'm not the only person by any means that Barry attacks and lies about. But you're the only one that bores us to tears with your responses to him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: on 9/22/06 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My guess as to who will be her replacement targets will be Shemp and Vaj (of course), Paul, geezerfreak, you, Sal, and pretty much anyone else she thinks she can suck into a confrontation. She'd *prefer* that the confrontation was with me, of course, but if I'm not available, she'll take what's handy. Mark my words. So maybe one by one, we¹ll all learn not to engage in squabbles with her. You *do* realize Barry's description in the post you're responding to is total fantasy, right? Or have you actually bought into it? We all believe everything Barry says about you, Judy. And we are all shocked that you let him get away with it without every protesting or responding to his unwarranted attacks. Would you please consider upping your daily output so that Barry is properly rebutted? Gee, you're a regular I won't dignify that with a response kind of gal when it comes to responding to Barry's attacks on you... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: snip I do feel some action is appropriate given today, Sparaig's, (and shemp's to a degree) childish response to a serious issue. Total snubbing of noses, and no acknowledgement of their abuse of FFL, nor any constructive diologue. Just how do you acknowledge something you don't believe to be the case? And Judy's only response appears to be to bash Barry. Not that Barry was bashing me or anything, poor innocent lamb that he is. horselaugh Is that your idea of constructive dialogue? I actually prefer your guffaw To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
new.morning, you write too much. Take a break. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution I applaud Turq for his creatively thinking about how can we make this thing work. And I like the direction of his suggestions. They offer some good refinements, and practicalities, over what i suggested yesterday. In that spirit of creative problem solving, diologue and refinement, I offer the following encouragement and refinements: 1) I agree that some fixed number of posts per time period is easier to implment and more practical than my suggested % of posts. I think 7-10 posts a day is a good upper limit. I do suggest a refinment in the time period. I think a month may be a bit too long a monitoring period. If someone is on a compulsive, venting or minutia jag, it may be better for them to send them more immediate feedback. And keeps FFL from being choked during the 2-3 week lead up to their reaching their limits. Thus I suggest: * a limit of 70 posts for any 7 day period. Thats 10 posts per day. * voluntary monitors. Thus it would not take any of the moderators time -- other than to pull the plug on someone, and reinstate them (30 seconds). Thus if someones posts seem excessive, anyone can pull the stats, post them, and if non-disputed, moderators will pull the plug. * time-outs would be one week for the first two time-outs. Two weeks thereafter. This is not as harsh as a full months suspension. And may be enough feed-back for those seeking to become responsive and cordial FFL citizens. - As far as immediate suspension of Judy, Sparaig and Shemp, while i feel that may hve some merit, it is sort of an ex post facto imposition of new rules. And without self-governing guidelines for FFL -- an separate initiative i am working on -- its not practical IMO. I do feel some action is appropriate given today, Sparaig's, (and shemp's to a degree) childish response to a serious issue. Total snubbing of noses, and no acknowledgement of their abuse of FFL, nor any constructive diologue. And Judy's only response appears to be to bash Barry. Again and Again. No acknowledgment, no constructive diologue. Thus I suggest the following -- echoing and perhaps extending the suggestions of others. It can be done immediately. No need for Ricks approval. For one month: * Do not under any circumstances respond to any post of these three (Sparaig, Judy and Shemp) -- directly or indirectly (referencing it in a post to others). * Do not under any circumstances respond to any poster who does continue responding to these three. My sense is that without fuel of posts to bounced off of, these three will pretty much dry up. Or at least reduce posts of self-declarations and self-importance. And if they hyper-react with 100's of silly see me posts -- it simply builds a case for the need for explicit time-out rules. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vote here for the Aliens solution
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: snip But you get into pissing contests with Judy, I hit the delete button. When you do this often enough, I start deleting whole blocks of your posts. Why don¹t you take ignoring Judy¹s posts as some sort of Buddhist exercise in self-control? If you don¹t engage her in any way, maybe this will diminish the volume of her posts too. snip Barry's being paid off by the Bile and Phlegm industry. They know that they more he eggs you on, the more of their natural resource is available in New Jersey. Actually, PBPE-NJ (Piss, Bile, Phlegm Eggs of New Jersey) pays me a healthy commission, but don't tell Barry. Why do you think they call it the Garden State? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
