[FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, that is how the mind gets confused - When it isn't centered, it tracks other stuff, and has the tendency to get lost in it, and project a lot onto the objects of attention, like specific sequences of life, and ways of acting having special meaning re: liberation, instead of the ease and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-22 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
soundofstillness, I'm not familiar with Ramana's teachings though I get an experience of deep peace from his photos. Nor have I used Who am I as a form of inquiry. I like Byron Katie's Is it true? Can I absolutely know that it's true? Like that, like that (-: Asking Who am I in this moment,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-22 Thread soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
soundofstillness, I'm not familiar with Ramana's teachings though I get an experience of deep peace from his photos. Nor have I used Who am I as a form of inquiry. I like Byron Katie's Is it true? Can I absolutely know that it's true? Like that, like that (-: Asking Who am I in this moment,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 7/22/2014 11:10 AM, soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: /Aham/ means “I” in Sanskrit. Aham is reflected on all levels of our nature. Speech is Aham with A as the first letter and Ha the last letter of the Sanskrit alaphabet. Breath is Aham with A as inhalation and Ha as

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread Duveyoung
I've read it as: Knowledge in the books stays in the books. Superficially, it means that a light reading of any material is not easily remembered, whereas careful study involves a great many more neural iterations that, my theory, then aids memory being hard-wired and more easily recalled.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
How'z ya spinnin'? Whew, how would you explain this to a 4th grader? Are you saying . . . Awareness is the condition for our experience of every 'thing'. Awareness can't be explained by any 'thing' at all. Especially by reading a book. But if I read that in a book it would get me

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 7/21/2014 1:04 PM, Duveyoung wrote: I've read it as: Knowledge in the books stays in the books. Superficially, it means that a light reading of any material is not easily remembered, whereas careful study involves a great many more neural iterations that, my theory, then aids memory

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 7/21/2014 1:34 PM, soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How'z ya spinnin'? Whew, how would you explain this to a 4th grader? If you are driving down a desert highway in the middle of the day, keep your eyes open, stay alert and don't text; if you see a wet spot on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread Duveyoung
You can observe the observation, but not the observer. You know you are the ultimate observer by direct insight, not by a logical process based on observation. You are what you are, but you know what you are not. The self is known as being, the not-self is known as transient. But in reality all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
You can observe the observation, but not the observer. You know you are the ultimate observer by direct insight, not by a logical process based on observation. You are what you are, but you know what you are not. The self is known as being, the not-self is known as transient. But in reality

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
ah, soundofstillness, the land of paradox, a very wonderful place to be... neti, neti, not this, not this becomes and this too, and this too (-: On Monday, July 21, 2014 3:44 PM, soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   You can observe the

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The way that can be 'wayed' is not the Way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, soundofstillness@... wrote : OK, so there may have been a moment since first hearing this thought that I may have had some degree of understanding of what it meant. But at this moment in time I don't understand

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
The way that can be 'wayed' is not the Way. Could we say it's the opposite of 'wayed' is the Way. YS 1.2 Yoga is stilling the waying mind. (process) 1.3 Then pure awareness can abide in its own nature.(state) 1.4. Otherwise pure awareness takes itself to be the waying mind.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's learned from books stays in books

2014-07-21 Thread soundofstilln...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]
ah, soundofstillness, the land of paradox, a very wonderful place to be... neti, neti, not this, not this becomes and this too, and this too (-: Share Long, That's beautiful. Didn't Ramana Maharishi say the asking Who Am I' is a more direct way of realization than neti, neti? Back when I was