Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-07 Thread Richard Williams
Longer mantras (e.g. the Great Compansion Mantra of Kwan Yin, the Surangama Sutra mantra,...etc) ime, are more suitable for chanting... In Buddhist practice, some longer mantras are called 'dharanis', but you don't really need to memorize long dharanis or sutras - a short tantric 'bija'

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
boo wrote: To sum up Willy's wisdom today: There are no mantras used in TM. There are certain mantras used in TM. There are no multi-word mantras used in TM. There are certain multi-word mantras used in advanced TM. Now I'm so confused, I'm going to make up some BS about Buddhism.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-06 Thread Richard J. Williams
Bhairitu wrote: Because the longer mantras and siddhi mantras are very powerful having been passed down by an age old tradition. For what purpose would I be wanting a long nonsense syllable, enlivened or not? It is a fraud that overtly and covertly attempts to replace God-given human

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-06 Thread yifuxero
---Longer mantras (e.g. the Great Compansion Mantra of Kwan Yin, the Surangama Sutra mantra,...etc) ime, are more suitable for chanting; and creating certain effects in relative existence. That's one side of the coin in regard to the long mantras. The chanting of Sutras is a standard Buddhist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
Richard J. Williams wrote: menkemeyer wrote: Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great redeeming mantra also known as five-syllable mantra. Maybe so, but any word or phrase can be considered a 'mantra'. However, there are no mantras used in TM practice - we use only non-semantic

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
menkemeyer wrote: Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great redeeming mantra also known as five-syllable mantra. Maybe so, but any word or phrase can be considered a 'mantra'. However, there are no mantras used in TM practice - we use only non-semantic tantric 'bija' mantras. If you insist

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread yifuxero
-My motto is whatever works...not what some asshole said 5,000 years ago. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: menkemeyer wrote: Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great redeeming mantra also known as five-syllable mantra. Maybe so, but any word

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread Richard Williams
...there are no mantras used in TM practice - we use only non-semantic tantric 'bija' mantras. Bhairitu wrote: What about the advanced techniques? You get only one 'bija' mantra with TM - in the advanced techniques, just words or phrases, no more bijas. For example, 'namah' is just

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread boo_lives
To sum up Willy's wisdom today: There are no mantras used in TM. There are certain mantras used in TM. There are no multi-word mantras used in TM. There are certain multi-word mantras used in advanced TM. Now I'm so confused, I'm going to make up some BS about Buddhism. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread Richard J. Williams
yifuxero wrote: ...one should follow Shiva's own words, and the words of Shankara. Apparently all of the words uttered by the Lord Shiva to his wife are not available to the general public - they are esoteric and can only be accessed through an initiation by a guru. From what I've read,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
I have an Indian friend who is an MD and learned ayurveda as he was growing up from his grandfather who practiced in Indian villages. His method of ayurveda, being simplified for villagers, is very easy to grasp. Unfortunately, due to having a family, he could not afford to take the time to

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I have an Indian friend who is an MD and learned ayurveda as he was growing up from his grandfather who practiced in Indian villages. His method of ayurveda, being simplified for villagers, is very easy to grasp.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
Richard Williams wrote: ...there are no mantras used in TM practice - we use only non-semantic tantric 'bija' mantras. Bhairitu wrote: What about the advanced techniques? You get only one 'bija' mantra with TM - in the advanced techniques, just words or phrases, no

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-04 Thread menkemeyer
I think your understanding of Om Nama Shiva is somewhat preverted from it's true meaning and power. see the following. Chris Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great redeeming mantra also known as five-syllable mantra. The meaning It means I bow to Shiva. Shiva is the supreme reality, the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-04 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:30 PM, menkemeyer wrote: I think your understanding of Om Nama Shiva is somewhat preverted from it's true meaning and power. see the following. Chris Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great redeeming mantra also known as five-syllable mantra. Is it more powerful than

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-04 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, menkemeyer menkeme...@... wrote: I think your understanding of Om Nama Shiva is somewhat preverted from it's true meaning and power. see the following. Chris Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great redeeming mantra also known as five-syllable

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-04 Thread yifuxero
--.Benefits from the mantra will be minimal unless Shakti is part of the picture. The Shiva/Shakti Principle is superior to either alone. (indeed, one should follow Shiva's own words, and the words of Shankara). Shakti may be obtained from association with a long-standing lineage of Gurus in

[FairfieldLife] Re: What did you take with you from TM-Shiva

2009-01-04 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jan 4, 2009, at 4:30 PM, menkemeyer wrote: I think your understanding of Om Nama Shiva is somewhat preverted from it's true meaning and power. see the following. Chris Om Namah Shivaya is known as the great