subject:"\[FairfieldLife\] Re\: Which is It\?"

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

No. Trump himself. I listened to him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What does your response have to do with my reply to you?  I'll leave you be, 
Mike.  You're off the deep end, more and more. Watch that SNL clip and say 
goodbye to Trump's nominations for the Supreme Court.  
 

 "Ms. Rodham endorsed Mr. Alinsky’s central critique of government antipoverty 
programs — that they tended to be too top-down and removed from the wishes of 
individuals.
 But the student leader split with Mr. Alinsky over a central point. He vowed 
to ‘rub raw the sores of discontent’ and compel action through agitation. This, 
she believed, ran counter to the notion of change within the system." 
(Washington Post)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Hmmm, Republican campaign center in NC gets fire bombed.Cars at a Trump rally 
spray painted and vandalized, attendees at  Trump rallies attacked and beaten.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, 
go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto 
out of your head and on paper.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
 Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk.
 

 Documentation, please.
 

 Blames the Russians for her E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow 
the law and use government approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy 
evidence in an investigation.
 

 Five lies in a row. There's no evidence that her emails were hacked, so 
there's nothing on that score to blame the Russians for. It has actually been 
the *government-approved" email that was hacked. She didn't lie about her 
emails, and she didn't try to destroy evidence.
 

 She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video for their 
deaths.
 

 Two more lies.
 

 Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has seen, flooding 
Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 1/5 of our 
countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton Foundation.
 

 And another one.
 

 Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay for play.
 

 And another one.
 

 Lies through her teeth.
 

 And ANOTHER one.
 

 How the F can you believe a word she says? Takes tens of, if not hundreds of 
millions in donations from countries seeking favors, countries that treat their 
women like shit and murder their gay population.
 

 And the Clinton Foundation does all kinds of good with that money.
 

 Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas.
 

 Two more lies.
 

 This post is a great example of the Karl Rove tactic of accusing the person 
you oppose of your own misdeeds. Discharge a blizzard of lies about Clinton, 
and finish up by calling *her* a liar.
 

 

 But hey! She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for 
something!


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Come on, Mikey. Step up to the plate here. I asked you, first. Scared? Why
do you think Trump is qualified?

Here is commentary from Brittany Pounder— a Republican, evangelical Christian,
Conservative, Hillary-hating woman who is fully disgusted watching so many of
her spineless counterparts in action. At least she is honest and is struggling
with her conscience. Not you, though, right? Your neural pathways are set.

"I get refusals from Christian fathers to respond when I ask if they were
willing to sacrifice the “crotches of their daughters” to save the country from
Hillary. They respond with venomous attacks because their answer will either
make them look like a hypocrite or a reprobate."

Trump And The Apostate Church: The Destruction Of A Testimony
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/

http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/

Trump And The Apostate Church: The Destruction Of...
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/
I know this post will generate a lot of mail that I don’t necessarily feel
like dealing with. But there are those moments that are so compelling to
one’s heart th...

View on www.libertyjuice.com
http://www.libertyjuice.com/2016/10/10/trump-and-the-apostate-church-the-destruction-of-a-testimony/

Preview by Yahoo

"Yes, conservatives consider Hillary the bottom of the barrel in regards to
politics…and she certainly is. But there’s always the corner of the gutter
where the bacterial parasites live and that’s exactly where Trump resides.

Trump, the man who mocked Reagan as a con man, lauded the right to partial
birth abortion, praised tax increases, said Hillary should lead negotiations
with Iran, openly supports committing war crimes, brags of his adulterous
affairs, mocks the handicap, among other egregious issues, is just as much, if
not more, of a gutter bug than both Hillary and Bill. "

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And what are your candidates qualifications? Thirty years in *public service,*
serving herself and has accomplished zip for the country.

From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Mikey, stop being such a whiner and support your candidate. Now, what do
you think his qualifications are again?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And who told you that? The media?

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you
care to name.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to
stop him

They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.

Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White
House.

There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before.

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is
very dangerous.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 

 Yes, a lot of people are wondering how Trump has managed to hypnotize so many 
people into thinking he's presidential material.
 

 

 

 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And Hillary can't be trusted with national secrets. The whole world knows them 
now.
 

 ??? Documentation, please. What "national secrets"?
 

 Since that's all you could come up with, I'll assume you acknowledge I'm right 
about everything I said below, and that your claim about the media is silly 
flapdoodle.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   A couple additional thoughts:
 

 Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always 
endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have 
declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with 
Hillary's campaign?
 

 It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent 
or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters 
denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the 
presidency.
 

 And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less 
important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his 
racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His 
banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected 
should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency.
 

 And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the 
election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable 
behavior by a presidential candidate.
 

 Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the 
election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about 
them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 BTW Judy, in July, the New York Times declared it was the duty of the media to 
stop Trump.
 

 You'll have to do better than that. Give me a URL, or a date. Given the way 
you twist things, I'll need to see what the Times actually said.
 

 You also told me earlier last month that Hillary did *not* support open 
borders, Yet Wikileaks revealed E-mails in which she declared to a Brazilian 
bank that she was all for open borders for the western hemisphere.
 

 She didn't mean "open borders" for people to immigrate, sorry. She was talking 
about hemisphere-wide clean energy. Her immigration policy is for increased 
border security, not open borders.
 

 You also told me that Hillary is not a liar but earlier in a post this summer 
you declared that she doesn't lie any more than any other politician. Either 
you don't know what she stands for or you're lying for her. Which is it?
 

 Either you're lying for Trump, or you have a very poor command of English. 
Which is it? A liar is someone who habitually lies; she doesn't.
 
 Yes, the media does conspire with her. They give her veto power over her 
quotes that they want to use and advice about how to help her campaign.
 

 Documentation, please.
 

 How much time has been spent by the media covering the Wikileaks releases?
 

 Oh, lots. The Times has a story almost every day. So does Politico. So does 
WaPo.
 

 Not much because it's bad news for her while they will go to the ends of the 
earth to cover a few women that claim, without proof, to have been *assaulted* 
by Trump and who's stories have been thoroughly discredited.
 

 The media didn't have to go anywhere to find these women; they came out of the 
woodwork of their own accord, enraged, after Trump denied sexually assaulting 
women at the second debate. And *none* of their stories so far has been 
discredited. You keep telling this lie over and over.
 

 How many interviews have they done of Clinton's victims?
 

 You mean "alleged victims." Back when it was relevant, they were interviewed 
to death. We can just go back and look at what they said back then. There's no 
reason to re-interview them. And in any case, Bill Clinton isn't running for 
president, so they're irrelevant.
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Hmmm, Republican campaign center in NC gets fire bombed.Cars at a Trump rally 
spray painted and vandalized, attendees at  Trump rallies attacked and beaten.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

    To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, 
go buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto 
out of your head and on paper.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.

  From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 The "delusionals" live in their owndream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.

On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  New York Times, July.

  From:"authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes theyhave.

No, theyhaven't.

 From:"authfriend@...[FairfieldLife]"<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Sunday, October 16, 201610:34 AM
Subject:Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:Which is It?

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

WellFeste, it isrigged. Whenthe mediaopenlydeclares it istheir duty tostop him
Theyhaven't donethat.
and they conspire with her campaign,
Theyhaven't donethat either.
asis revealed inthe Wikileakse-mails, theyare no longerobjectivelyreporting 
thenews buttrying toinfluence anelection. Thiswill make itvery difficultfor 
Hillary togovern even ifshe iselected.
Ofcourse it'sgoing to bevery difficultfor Hillary togovern. Butnot becausethe 
media haveconspired withher campaign.It'll be verydifficult forher to 
governbecause ofreflexive GOPresistance andthe spreadingof lies abouther and 
aboutthe media bythe rightwing, as wellas the liesTrump willcontinue tospread 
aboutthe electionbeing "rigged"after she's inthe WhiteHouse.

There will be a resistanceto herpresidencylike has neverbeen seenbefore. 

From:feste37<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Sunday,October 16,2016 9:14 AM
Subject:[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Eventhough heseems certainto lose, I amstill worried,because he isangry 
andunhinged andcould cause alot of troublebetween nowand ElectionDay, and 
alsoafterwards. Heis openlysaying theelection isrigged, whichis verydangerous. 

---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,<awoelflebater@...> wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Voting *for* someone because of their sex is sexism.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

    "She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!"
Yes, Mike, it does!  You're making progress.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 

 And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 And who told you that? The media?

   From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.

There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

And what are your candidates qualifications? Thirty years in *public service,* 
serving herself and has accomplished zip for the country.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

    Mikey, stop being such a whiner and support your candidate.  Now, what do 
you think his qualifications are again?  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

And who told you that? The media?

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.

There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

If I'm *losing touch* with reality, at least I've known it.You're voting for a 
crook, that makes Nixon look like a saint, because she's a *woman*. Now that's 
living in an alternate universe.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it will briefly make you 
enjoy this nightmarish election 
||
||||   ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it 
wi...  It’s safe to say that the second presidential debate was weird, 
uncomfortable, and almost a spoof of itself. The town hall style…||
|  View on www.yahoo.com  |Preview by Yahoo|
||

You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go buy another 
gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out of your 
head and on paper.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 What do you think is the root of prejudice?  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her
You left out *homophobes.*
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. ".  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Mikey, stop being such a whiner and support your candidate.  Now, what do you 
think his qualifications are again?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

To repeat:  You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go 
buy another gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out 
of your head and on paper.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
 Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.
 


 From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   
 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such mass 
hypnosis.
 
 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   New York Times, July.
 
 
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:authfriend@...[FairfieldLife] 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.
 

 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@...> mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

"She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!"
 

 Yes, Mike, it does!  You're making progress.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 
  And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   And who told you that? The media?
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Saul Alinsky taught that when you're caught doing something crooked, deny deny 
deny. Then blame your accusers.
Hillary wrote a 92 page thesis, her senior year, about Saul Alinsky who some 
claim was a *community organizer* but was actually a crook and a thug.

  From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see such 
mass hypnosis.

 On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    New York Times, July.

From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  Yes they have.

  No, they haven't.

   From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,<mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  Well Feste, it is rigged. When  the media openly declares it is  their duty 
to stop him 
  They haven't done that. 
  and they conspire with her campaign, 
  They haven't done that either. 
  as is revealed in the Wikileaks  e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but  trying to influence an election. This  will make it 
very difficult  for Hillary to govern even if she is  elected. 
  Of course it's going to be  very difficult for Hillary to govern. But  not 
because the media have  conspired with her campaign. It'll be very  difficult 
for her to govern  because of reflexive GOP resistance and  the spreading of 
lies about  her and about the media by the right  wing, as well as the lies  
Trump will continue to spread about  the election being "rigged"  after she's 
in the White House. 

  There will be a resistance to her presidency  like has never been seen 
before. 

   From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16,  2016 9:14 AM
 Subject:[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

   Even though he seems certain  to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and  could cause a lot of trouble between now  and Election 
Day, and also  afterwards. He is openly saying the  election is rigged, which  
is very dangerous. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]



‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it will briefly make you 
enjoy this nightmarish election 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 
 
 ‘SNL’ parodied the second presidential debate and it wi... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 It’s safe to say that the second presidential debate was weird, uncomfortable, 
and almost a spoof of itself. The town hall style…
 
 
 
 View on www.yahoo.com 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/snl-parodied-second-presidential-debate-193243530.html
 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

 You're losing touch with reality Mikey.  Stock up your bunker, go buy another 
gun, and get ready for the apocalypse.  And, get that manifesto out of your 
head and on paper.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   What do you think is the root of prejudice?  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her 
You left out *homophobes.*

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. "
.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name. 


 And Hillary is? She put state secrets at risk. Blames the Russians for her 
E-mails being hacked because she failed to follow the law and use government 
approved E-mail, lied about it and tried to destroy evidence in an 
investigation. She abandoned diplomats in Libya to die and then blamed a video 
for their deaths. Set off the greatest mass migration of refugees the world has 
seen, flooding Europe with millions of displaced people.Approved the sale of 
1/5 of our countries uranium to Russia for a *donation* to the Clinton 
Foundation. Used money for Haitian earthquake victims for friends of Bill. Pay 
for play. Lies through her teeth. How the F can you believe a word she says? 
Takes tens of, if not hundreds of millions in donations from countries seeking 
favors, countries that treat their women like shit and murder their gay 
population. Wants to open our borders and send our jobs overseas. But hey! 
She'll be the first woman to be president! That must count for something!
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 2:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    And who told you that? The media?


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
  
    Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- 
the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is 
using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing 
illegitimate or sinister about that.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.


  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

The "delusionals" live in their own dream world.  Interesting to see 
such mass hypnosis.


On 10/16/2016 10:27 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

New York Times, July.



*From:* "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

No, they haven't.


*From:* "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him


They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer 
objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. 
This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is 
elected.


Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But 
not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very 
difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and 
the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, 
as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election 
being "rigged" after she's in the White House.




There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


On 10/16/2016 10:46 AM, feste37 wrote:


Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate 
-- the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the 
media is using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. 
Nothing illegitimate or sinister about that.




Because his people want to see mainstream media broken up and he might 
do that.  That I'd applaud along with breaking up the big banks.  
There's nothing too big to fail.  These used to be things "libruls" were 
for.  What happened?



He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you care to name.



You mean George W Bush was qualified?  Got two terms.

Being President is a salesman's job.  Trump is a salesman.  Not voting 
for him and would have preferred Sanders.  And not voting for the crazy 
woman either.


BTW, if she bails on the last debate it will be over for her.  All Trump 
has to do is remind the public of that old saw "quitters never win."  I 
think she's already lost by a landslide.


The polls don't count though both sides try to imply they do because 
more and more folks who still have landlines have NoMoRobo and the 
younger folks don't have landlines.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.



*From:* "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him


They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer 
objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. 
This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is 
elected.


Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But 
not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very 
difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and 
the spreading of lies abo! ut her and about the media by the right 
wing, as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the 
election being "rigged" after she's in the White House.




There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

And who told you that? The media?

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

    Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- 
the worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is 
using its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing 
illegitimate or sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, 
in any area you care to name. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.

There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

H, maybe she'll be *deleted*.


  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    What do you think is the root of prejudice?  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :


By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her
You left out *homophobes.*
  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. ".  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What do you think is the root of prejudice?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 
 

By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her 
You left out *homophobes.*

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. "
.   
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Much of the media is against Trump because he is a terrible candidate -- the 
worst the GOP has put forward in living memory. Of course the media is using 
its influence to persuade people not to vote for him. Nothing illegitimate or 
sinister about that. He is simply unqualified for the office, in any area you 
care to name. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

And Hillary can't be trusted with national secrets. The whole world knows them 
now.

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

    A couple additional thoughts:
Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always 
endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have 
declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with 
Hillary's campaign?
It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent 
or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters 
denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the 
presidency.
And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less 
important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his 
racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His 
banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected 
should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency.
And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the 
election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable 
behavior by a presidential candidate.
Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the 
election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about 
them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

No, they haven't.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.

There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her
You left out *homophobes.*
  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. ".  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

New York Times, July.

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yes they have.

No, they haven't.

  From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.

There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

BTW Judy, in July, the New York Times declared it was the duty of the media to 
stop Trump. You also told me earlier last month that Hillary did *not* support 
open borders, Yet Wikileaks revealed E-mails in which she declared to a 
Brazilian bank that she was all for open borders for the western hemisphere. 
You also told me that Hillary is not a liar but earlier in a post this summer 
you declared that she doesn't lie any more than any other politician. Either 
you don't know what she stands for or you're lying for her. Which is it?
Yes, the media does conspire with her. They give her veto power over her quotes 
that they want to use and advice about how to help her campaign. How much time 
has been spent by the media covering the Wikileaks releases? Not much because 
it's bad news for her while they will go to the ends of the earth to cover a 
few women that claim, without proof, to have been *assaulted* by Trump and 
who's stories have been thoroughly discredited. How many interviews have they 
done of Clinton's victims?

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

A couple additional thoughts: 

 Are all the extremely conservative big-city newspapers that have almost always 
endorsed Republican presidential candidates (some for over a century) but have 
declined to endorse Trump, declaring him unfit for office, conspiring with 
Hillary's campaign?
 

 It's not just the media. I've lost count of the groups of scores of prominent 
or eminent Americans--many of them Republicans---who have signed open letters 
denouncing Trump and, like the newspapers, declaring him unfit for the 
presidency.
 

 And it isn't just his treatment of women. That's actually one of the less 
important objections compared to his ignorance of international affairs, his 
racism, his disregard for the Constitution, his near-constant lying. His 
banana-republic threat to see to it that Hillary is jailed if he's elected 
should all by itself disqualify him from the presidency.
 

 And finally, his attempt to call in question the validity of the 
election--before it's even taken place--is just beyond the pale of acceptable 
behavior by a presidential candidate.
 

 Seems as though you think the media have been "trying to influence the 
election" by reporting all these things. They should have kept quiet about 
them, I guess, and just stuck with dumping on HIllary as they have for decades.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


On 10/16/2016 08:48 AM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been 
seen before. "



By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country 
should afford the best in security for her.


What about those who disdain a corporate global agenda or wars of empire 
and corporate gain?  Have you forgotten your liberal principles?  You 
made it sound like we're anointing a queen not electing a president.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed 
in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the 
news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected. There will be 
a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


On 10/16/2016 08:40 AM, feste37 wrote:


Thanks, auth, for saying it better than I could.

Mike, If much of the media prefers another candidate to Trump, that is 
not "rigging" the election. It's part of a free debate and exchange of 
ideas (which Trump is losing badly).




Feste, were you born yesterday?  Try following the money for a change.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their 
duty to stop him


They haven't done that.

and they conspire with her campaign,

They haven't done that either.

as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer 
objectively reporting the news but trying to influence an election. 
This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is 
elected.


Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But 
not because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very 
difficult for her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and 
the spreading of lies about her and about the media by the right wing, 
as well as the lies Trump will continue to spread about the election 
being "rigged" after she's in the White House.




There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before.




*From:* feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?!

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he 
is angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and 
Election Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is 
rigged, which is very dangerous.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

alt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re: "There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen 
before. " 

 By the misogynists, sexists and racists (both genders).  This country should 
afford the best in security for her.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yes they have.
 
 

 No, they haven't.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yes they have.


  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 10:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
They haven't done that.
and they conspire with her campaign,
They haven't done that either.
as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.


There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks, auth, for saying it better than I could. 

Mike, If much of the media prefers another candidate to Trump, that is not 
"rigging" the election. It's part of a free debate and exchange of ideas (which 
Trump is losing badly). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

2016-10-16 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him
 

 They haven't done that.
 

 and they conspire with her campaign,
 

 They haven't done that either.
 

 as is revealed in the Wikileaks e-mails, they are no longer objectively 
reporting the news but trying to influence an election. This will make it very 
difficult for Hillary to govern even if she is elected.
 

 Of course it's going to be very difficult for Hillary to govern. But not 
because the media have conspired with her campaign. It'll be very difficult for 
her to govern because of reflexive GOP resistance and the spreading of lies 
about her and about the media by the right wing, as well as the lies Trump will 
continue to spread about the election being "rigged" after she's in the White 
House.
 

 

 

 There will be a resistance to her presidency like has never been seen before. 

 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
 
 
   Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Well Feste, it is rigged. When the media openly declares it is their duty to 
stop him and they conspire with her campaign, as is revealed in the Wikileaks 
e-mails, they are no longer objectively reporting the news but trying to 
influence an election. This will make it very difficult for Hillary to govern 
even if she is elected. There will be a resistance to her presidency like has 
never been seen before. 


  From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2016 9:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?
   
    Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is 
angry and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election 
Day, and also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is 
very dangerous. 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is It?

Even though he seems certain to lose, I am still worried, because he is angry 
and unhinged and could cause a lot of trouble between now and Election Day, and 
also afterwards. He is openly saying the election is rigged, which is very 
dangerous. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which Internet Company has NOT given the US Gov its records?

2013-09-08 Thread emptybill

The only real solution irreducible encryption.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Which Internet Company has NOT given the US Gov its records?

2013-09-07 Thread doctordumbass

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which Internet Company has NOT given the US Gov its records?

2013-09-07 Thread emptybill

Yer gettin old -

The codes really are longstaff brittle hardfart


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 Today's codewords are:

 langstaff bottle aardvark

 You can find your secret decoder ring in specially marked boxes of
Post
 Toasties.


 On 09/07/2013 07:57 AM, emptybill wrote:
 
  *WHICH INTERNET COMPANY /HASN'T/ GIVEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ITS
RECORDS? *
 
  June 10, 2013
 
  NEW YORK: Outraged Internet users searching for an alternative to
the
  privacy-busting companies they'd trusted are turning to a company
that
  provides what it calls, the world's most private search engines.
 
  *StartPage*and its sister search engine *Ixquick* were launched in
  2006 to staunchly defend their users' privacy and civil liberties.
  StartPage provides a private portal to Google results, while Ixquick
  provides private results from other search engines.
 
  The services have not participated in PRISM, nor have they ever
  provided user data to the U.S. government or to any other government
  or agency in the U.S. or anywhere in the world.
 
  That is more than nine of the biggest Internet companies -- Apple,
  Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, YouTube, PalTalk, AOL and Skype
--
  can say.
 
  The Privacy of our users rests on three important foundations,
  explains StartPage and Ixquick CEO Robert Beens. We are based in
the
  Netherlands, we use encrypted connections, and -- most importantly
--
  we don't store or share any of our users' personal search data.
 
* *No User Data Stored:*StartPage and Ixquick never store user
data,
  including IP addresses and search queries, so government
agencies
  have no incentive to ask for these. This privacy is so complete;
  the company doesn't even know who its customers are, so it can't
  share anything with Big Brother.
 
* *Encrypted (HTTPS) Connections:*StartPage and Ixquick were the
  first search engines to use automatic encryption on all
  connections to prevent snooping. When searches are encrypted,
  third parties like ISPs and the NSA can't eavesdrop on Internet
  connections to see what people are searching for.
 
* *Not Under U.S. Jurisdiction:*StartPage and Ixquick are based in
  the Netherlands, so they are not directly subject to U.S.
  regulations, warrants, or court orders. They can't be forced to
  participate in spying programs like PRISM. The company has never
  turned over a single bit of user data to any government entity
in
  the 14 years it has been in business, which is not surprising
  since there is no data in the first place.
 
  StartPage and Ixquick are also the only search engines whose privacy
  practices have been independently verified and third-party certified
 
  through the European Union's Privacy Seal program.
 
  Unfortunately, it takes a scandal like PRISM to wake people up to
the
  erosion of privacy, says Harvard-trained privacy expert Dr.
Katherine
  Albrecht, who helped develop StartPage. As people get fed up with
  being spied on, they look for alternatives. We already serve nearly
3
  million private searches each day, and we expect that number to grow
  as people seek shelter from search engines that store and share
their
  private information.
 
  The company will expand its privacy services this summer with the
  addition of a new private email product called StartMail
  . StartMail will offer a paid, private
  email platform with strong encryption. Anyone interested in beta
  testing the program on its release can sign up at www.StartMail.com
 
 
  *E.U. Contact Person*:
  Alex van Eesteren
  Sales  Business Development
  www.StartPage.com  // www.Ixquick.com
 
  +31-30-6971778

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which Internet Company has NOT given the US Gov its records?

2013-09-07 Thread obbajeeba

My code is embossed on my feces. Blueberries and corn give a bright contrast.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 Yer gettin old -
 
 The codes really are longstaff brittle hardfart
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  Today's codewords are:
 
  langstaff bottle aardvark
 
  You can find your secret decoder ring in specially marked boxes of
 Post
  Toasties.
 
 
  On 09/07/2013 07:57 AM, emptybill wrote:
  
   *WHICH INTERNET COMPANY /HASN'T/ GIVEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ITS
 RECORDS? *
  
   June 10, 2013
  
   NEW YORK: Outraged Internet users searching for an alternative to
 the
   privacy-busting companies they'd trusted are turning to a company
 that
   provides what it calls, the world's most private search engines.
  
   *StartPage*and its sister search engine *Ixquick* were launched in
   2006 to staunchly defend their users' privacy and civil liberties.
   StartPage provides a private portal to Google results, while Ixquick
   provides private results from other search engines.
  
   The services have not participated in PRISM, nor have they ever
   provided user data to the U.S. government or to any other government
   or agency in the U.S. or anywhere in the world.
  
   That is more than nine of the biggest Internet companies -- Apple,
   Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook, YouTube, PalTalk, AOL and Skype
 --
   can say.
  
   The Privacy of our users rests on three important foundations,
   explains StartPage and Ixquick CEO Robert Beens. We are based in
 the
   Netherlands, we use encrypted connections, and -- most importantly
 --
   we don't store or share any of our users' personal search data.
  
 * *No User Data Stored:*StartPage and Ixquick never store user
 data,
   including IP addresses and search queries, so government
 agencies
   have no incentive to ask for these. This privacy is so complete;
   the company doesn't even know who its customers are, so it can't
   share anything with Big Brother.
  
 * *Encrypted (HTTPS) Connections:*StartPage and Ixquick were the
   first search engines to use automatic encryption on all
   connections to prevent snooping. When searches are encrypted,
   third parties like ISPs and the NSA can't eavesdrop on Internet
   connections to see what people are searching for.
  
 * *Not Under U.S. Jurisdiction:*StartPage and Ixquick are based in
   the Netherlands, so they are not directly subject to U.S.
   regulations, warrants, or court orders. They can't be forced to
   participate in spying programs like PRISM. The company has never
   turned over a single bit of user data to any government entity
 in
   the 14 years it has been in business, which is not surprising
   since there is no data in the first place.
  
   StartPage and Ixquick are also the only search engines whose privacy
   practices have been independently verified and third-party certified
  
   through the European Union's Privacy Seal program.
  
   Unfortunately, it takes a scandal like PRISM to wake people up to
 the
   erosion of privacy, says Harvard-trained privacy expert Dr.
 Katherine
   Albrecht, who helped develop StartPage. As people get fed up with
   being spied on, they look for alternatives. We already serve nearly
 3
   million private searches each day, and we expect that number to grow
   as people seek shelter from search engines that store and share
 their
   private information.
  
   The company will expand its privacy services this summer with the
   addition of a new private email product called StartMail
   . StartMail will offer a paid, private
   email platform with strong encryption. Anyone interested in beta
   testing the program on its release can sign up at www.StartMail.com
  
  
   *E.U. Contact Person*:
   Alex van Eesteren
   Sales  Business Development
   www.StartPage.com  // www.Ixquick.com
  
   +31-30-6971778

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which Internet Company has NOT given the US Gov its records?

2013-09-07 Thread emptybill

I would think it is more than a hassle.

Scooping up and storing the data is just
one step. Supercomputing is not cheap
and breaking good encryption costs time
which is a commodity in itself when taping
into the Octodecillion bits streaming each
minute on a major trunk.

The real question currently seems to be -
What is extremely good encryption? and
Can it be created for commercial use?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread turquoiseb

Worth riffing off of, because Curtis just nails it...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@... wrote:

 It [Robin's M.O.] is an attempt to appear as if you are
 more familiar with a person's mental processes than is
 reasonable to claim.

This is really the crux of the matter, not only with
regard to Robin, but with Judy and others on this forum
who run the same number. THERE IS NO RATIONAL BASIS
for their claim to know the things they declare as
if they were Cosmic Truths. Their entire presentation
is based on What I say is true because I said it.

IMO this is a carryover -- for both of them -- of how
*they* regarded Maharishi. They believed what he said,
FOR NO OTHER REASON than because he said it. Now they
want others to react to *them* the same way.

 It is unfriendly, not only in content, but in the
 confidence with which you deliver it.

 You have used these exact lines to people here quite
 often.  I believe it is part of the tool kit that may
 have preceded your taking on students. I suspect that
 you had this kind of attack fairly well honed in high
 school or certainly by college. Just a guess.

An educated guess, however, one supported by psychologists'
description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. To have
established itself strongly enough to *become* a
personality disorder, this behavior was probably well
ingrained before the age of 20. As you go on to explain
so well, all that we have seen in the years since is mere
polishing of aberrant personality traits developed
much earlier in life.

 But with the flammable combination of youth (theirs)
 conditioning to authority (Maharishi), charisma and an
 unusual sense of self importance (yours) and the context
 you created in your group with the social rules you
 constructed through giving and withholding approval,
 this became an all-purpose life hack, that gave you
 access through a person's insecurity, to them handing
 you the right to interpret their internal processes.
 How they think about themselves.

BINGO.

I would suggest that this superb paragraph describes
Judy's disorder just as clearly as it does Robin's.
Their whole *motivation* -- if you just follow the
trends in their behavior and the fantasies they spout
about how strongly they have affected the people they
run this routine on -- is IMO *TO AFFECT THEIR
VICTIMS BY GIVING OR WITHHOLDING APPROVAL*.

I personally believe that this is a reflection of
the desire that made *them* what they are. THEY were
the ones who constantly desired approval growing up,
and for whatever reasons ( probably something related
to being unlikable egomaniacal assholes :-), they
were denied the approval they sought. So they
developed the defense mechanism of being...wait
for it...offensive. In every sense of that term.

 And like all techniques, it is pretty effective with a
 preselected type of person in a residence setting, but
 when flung out on a board like this, is too telegraphed
 to have the same effect.

Not to mention the fact that both Robin and Judy are
trying to run this number on a forum *dedicated to*
thinking for oneself and deciding things for oneself,
and *not* considering what a person (be it a poster here
or a spiritual teacher) says as true, just because they
said it.

 I am not accusing you of trying to start a cult on FFL,
 because the conditions for that ship sailed long ago.
 It is more like I am seeing someone insert a lock pick
 into every door they come across because they used to
 be a burglar, and now it is just a habit.

BINGO, again.

Robin's just running the same numbers he's run all his
life, that's all. What's frustrating him so much IMO
is that his lifelong life hack ISN'T WORKING.

People on this forum DON'T believe what he says just
because he says it. You can feel his frustration at
this, and his confusion at not being able to understand
or comprehend it. It's *always* worked for him, and
now it isn't. He is having major problems with this
(for him) new phenomenon.

 I am not sure if you even know why you do this odd thing,
 you will have to tell me if you choose.

I don't think he has any choice. I similarly don't think
that Judy has any option but to run the same offensive
routines that have worked in the past to get her the
attention she desired. The habits are so ingrained in
both of them that THIS BEHAVIOR IS ALL THEY'VE
GOT. Their behavior repertoire is so limited that they
just keep playing the same song over and over and
over and over...

 I can tell you that you are getting some feedback from
 those you have used it on that its application is not
 experienced on the receiving end as pleasant or friendly...

Much less sane.

 ...and once someone has made this move, trust is out of
 the question. Or maybe I am only speaking for myself here.

I don't think you are, Curtis. We have seen this very
sentiment expressed by many people here. Having been
burned by Robin's compulsive game-playing in the past,
at this point they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread card



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 If my lay diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder
 is correct, that's an even more persuasive argument for
 them never being able to change. NPD individuals almost
 *never* are able to be cured of the disorder. Shrinks
 don't even bother to try most of the time these days,
 because the key to eliminating the disorder is the very
 thing NPD patients can never do -- admit that they are
 disordered.
 

I think that's because *from their own POV*, it's not
a disorder, like e.g. OCD or social phobia would be.
Aren't narcissists and psychopaths often extremely charismatic,
which can greatly benefit them economically and otherwise?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread curtisdeltablues

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 Just for starters...

And what a start it was.  That old nuance thing...

You really can't discern the difference here?  I know they share some of the 
same characteristics but you really can't see the critical significant 
difference?

Hint: in one case the violence is imagined about himself to make it look like 
he is being hurt violently by what was said personally.

In the other it is a vivid image of what trolls do when not posting here.

But don't sweat it, Ravi also lacks the emotional intelligence to sort this out 
either, but then English is his second language and you are supposed to be an 
editor so...

Now run along and sift through dozens of posts to find things that sound like 
what I said at the most superficial level, fly away little starling, fly fly 
fly fly fly.






 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 snip
 [quoting Robin from last week]
  R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently 
  administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
  enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
  somehow this seems fitting to me.
  
  M:
  Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your 
  consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
  this over dramatic way?)
 
 Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
 he didn't like:
 
 To raunchydog:
Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
raw steak.
 
 To Robin:
The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their 
sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
and gotten him to respond.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

PS this isn't some lame attempt to *cure* you or whatever (I save that for ham) 
--- I am simply curious, person to person.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Hi Curtis, I am curious when you use the word, troll, what your criteria is 
 for applying this label to someone else? I think of an internet troll as 
 someone who posts something simply to attack someone or rile up a group of 
 people. That happens A LOT around here, and certainly I can include myself in 
 the trolling group at times. So I am curious how the label applies to those 
 on whom you affix it? Given the broad attribute of the word, I suspect you 
 may be using it selectively, vs. neutrally? 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
   Just for starters...
  
  And what a start it was.  That old nuance thing...
  
  You really can't discern the difference here?  I know they share some of 
  the same characteristics but you really can't see the critical significant 
  difference?
  
  Hint: in one case the violence is imagined about himself to make it look 
  like he is being hurt violently by what was said personally.
  
  In the other it is a vivid image of what trolls do when not posting here.
  
  But don't sweat it, Ravi also lacks the emotional intelligence to sort this 
  out either, but then English is his second language and you are supposed to 
  be an editor so...
  
  Now run along and sift through dozens of posts to find things that sound 
  like what I said at the most superficial level, fly away little starling, 
  fly fly fly fly fly.
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   snip
   [quoting Robin from last week]
R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently 
administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
somehow this seems fitting to me.

M:
Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your 
consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
this over dramatic way?)
   
   Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
   he didn't like:
   
   To raunchydog:
  Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
  smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
  its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
  raw steak.
   
   To Robin:
  The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
  a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
  who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
  heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their 
  sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
  the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
  and gotten him to respond.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

Hi Curtis, I am curious when you use the word, troll, what your criteria is 
for applying this label to someone else? I think of an internet troll as 
someone who posts something simply to attack someone or rile up a group of 
people. That happens A LOT around here, and certainly I can include myself in 
the trolling group at times. So I am curious how the label applies to those on 
whom you affix it? Given the broad attribute of the word, I suspect you may be 
using it selectively, vs. neutrally? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  Just for starters...
 
 And what a start it was.  That old nuance thing...
 
 You really can't discern the difference here?  I know they share some of the 
 same characteristics but you really can't see the critical significant 
 difference?
 
 Hint: in one case the violence is imagined about himself to make it look like 
 he is being hurt violently by what was said personally.
 
 In the other it is a vivid image of what trolls do when not posting here.
 
 But don't sweat it, Ravi also lacks the emotional intelligence to sort this 
 out either, but then English is his second language and you are supposed to 
 be an editor so...
 
 Now run along and sift through dozens of posts to find things that sound like 
 what I said at the most superficial level, fly away little starling, fly fly 
 fly fly fly.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
  [quoting Robin from last week]
   R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently 
   administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
   enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
   somehow this seems fitting to me.
   
   M:
   Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your 
   consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
   this over dramatic way?)
  
  Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
  he didn't like:
  
  To raunchydog:
 Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
 smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
 its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
 raw steak.
  
  To Robin:
 The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
 a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
 who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
 heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their 
 sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
 the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
 and gotten him to respond.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  Just for starters...
 
 And what a start it was.  That old nuance thing...
 
 You really can't discern the difference here?  I know they
 share some of the same characteristics but you really can't
 see the critical significant difference?
 
 Hint: in one case the violence is imagined about himself to
 make it look like he is being hurt violently by what was
 said personally.
 
 In the other it is a vivid image of what trolls do when not
 posting here.

Right. And using a violent metaphor (gash) ironically for
having been personally hurt by negative feedback is *so*
much more overly dramatic than using (even more) violent
metaphors (including murdering babies and drinking their
blood) nonironically to portray the imagined activities of
those who have supplied negative feedback about oneself.

Jeez, Curtis, I should think you wouldn't really want to
call attention to those nuances. I thought it would have
been a little over the top to point them out when I posted
the quotes, so I refrained.







 But don't sweat it, Ravi also lacks the emotional intelligence to sort this 
 out either, but then English is his second language and you are supposed to 
 be an editor so...
 
 Now run along and sift through dozens of posts to find things that sound like 
 what I said at the most superficial level, fly away little starling, fly fly 
 fly fly fly.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  snip
  [quoting Robin from last week]
   R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently 
   administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
   enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
   somehow this seems fitting to me.
   
   M:
   Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your 
   consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
   this over dramatic way?)
  
  Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
  he didn't like:
  
  To raunchydog:
 Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
 smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
 its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
 raw steak.
  
  To Robin:
 The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
 a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
 who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
 heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their 
 sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
 the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
 and gotten him to respond.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread nablusoss1008



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 Robin, I loved this and will read it again. And I have a feeling that Curtis 
 will read it and understand. I caught glimpses of your humanity amidst all 
 the ironic crap, and in this post your humanity shines through in its 
 fullness. I feel like I know you much better.
 
 Barry, if you can stand to read one post of Robin's with an open mind and 
 heart, this is the one.


Curtis and the Turqo are pissed at Robin, Curtis because Robin describes 
beautiful experiences from TM and with Maharishi. Can't have that. All the 
great news from the TMO all over the world these days just rubs salt into his 
open wounds. 

The Turqo is just pissed. And it makes him go overboard when people he 
repeatedly have said he respects, like Jerry Seinfeld says he has been 
meditating with TM for more than 40 years. When suddenly Bhuddist schools and 
monestaries adopt TM the Turqo suddenly realizes that the world is changing so 
fast it brings him out of his comfort zone and pushes his already high blood 
pressure towards new and dangerous levels. The Turqo is having a difficult 
times these days, and now you ask him to read one of Robin's lengthy posts ? 
Please, leave the poor fellow alone ! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

Sorry, gotta disagree with your assessment of Barry. The way I see it, this 
could be a wood carving forum, and the guy would *still* find something to 
twist his nuts around. That is just the way he rolls. 

TM and the rest have nothing to do with it. The tell? He never offers a 
positive alternative for the way the TMO does stuff, or a serious analysis of 
how things could change for the better. It has just been a negative rant for 
the better part of twenty years. It is simply a convenient target for who he 
is; an unhappy person.

So don't make the error, as many of us have, believing that Barry is here to 
tell the truth, or his opinions, whatever, about God, TM, Maharishi and 
enlightenment. We could be talking about varieties of cheese, and he would be 
exactly the same - making the same kind of shitty remarks. 

I mean, think about it, you don't end up alone, at his age, by mistake... :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Robin, I loved this and will read it again. And I have a feeling that 
  Curtis will read it and understand. I caught glimpses of your humanity 
  amidst all the ironic crap, and in this post your humanity shines through 
  in its fullness. I feel like I know you much better.
  
  Barry, if you can stand to read one post of Robin's with an open mind and 
  heart, this is the one.
 
 
 Curtis and the Turqo are pissed at Robin, Curtis because Robin describes 
 beautiful experiences from TM and with Maharishi. Can't have that. All the 
 great news from the TMO all over the world these days just rubs salt into his 
 open wounds. 
 
 The Turqo is just pissed. And it makes him go overboard when people he 
 repeatedly have said he respects, like Jerry Seinfeld says he has been 
 meditating with TM for more than 40 years. When suddenly Bhuddist schools and 
 monestaries adopt TM the Turqo suddenly realizes that the world is changing 
 so fast it brings him out of his comfort zone and pushes his already high 
 blood pressure towards new and dangerous levels. The Turqo is having a 
 difficult times these days, and now you ask him to read one of Robin's 
 lengthy posts ? 
 Please, leave the poor fellow alone ! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-20 Thread nablusoss1008



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Sorry, gotta disagree with your assessment of Barry. The way I see it, this 
 could be a wood carving forum, and the guy would *still* find something to 
 twist his nuts around. That is just the way he rolls. 
 
 TM and the rest have nothing to do with it. The tell? He never offers a 
 positive alternative for the way the TMO does stuff, or a serious analysis of 
 how things could change for the better. It has just been a negative rant for 
 the better part of twenty years. It is simply a convenient target for who he 
 is; an unhappy person.
 
 So don't make the error, as many of us have, believing that Barry is here to 
 tell the truth, or his opinions, whatever, about God, TM, Maharishi and 
 enlightenment. We could be talking about varieties of cheese, and he would be 
 exactly the same - making the same kind of shitty remarks. 
 
 I mean, think about it, you don't end up alone, at his age, by mistake... :-)


A small mistake here since he got a lesbian couple that sorts of accepts him 
and their small child who probably wonders what that grumpy old man is doing in 
the house anyway. And then there are the two cute dogs Paris and Pippin who 
probably love their Food-guy !

Apart from that, you nailed it Dr. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

no worries, he's getting close to Moving Day, Again...:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Sorry, gotta disagree with your assessment of Barry. The way I see it, this 
  could be a wood carving forum, and the guy would *still* find something to 
  twist his nuts around. That is just the way he rolls. 
  
  TM and the rest have nothing to do with it. The tell? He never offers a 
  positive alternative for the way the TMO does stuff, or a serious analysis 
  of how things could change for the better. It has just been a negative rant 
  for the better part of twenty years. It is simply a convenient target for 
  who he is; an unhappy person.
  
  So don't make the error, as many of us have, believing that Barry is here 
  to tell the truth, or his opinions, whatever, about God, TM, Maharishi and 
  enlightenment. We could be talking about varieties of cheese, and he would 
  be exactly the same - making the same kind of shitty remarks. 
  
  I mean, think about it, you don't end up alone, at his age, by mistake... 
  :-)
 
 
 A small mistake here since he got a lesbian couple that sorts of accepts him 
 and their small child who probably wonders what that grumpy old man is doing 
 in the house anyway. And then there are the two cute dogs Paris and Pippin 
 who probably love their Food-guy !
 
 Apart from that, you nailed it Dr. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-19 Thread laughinggull108

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ 
   wrote:
   
   
And why don't you just leave this be, Ann? I feel *your* animosity 
here. There is someone who is being persecuted. Emily is only getting 
what she deserves. If I were a woman I would want to be Camille 
Claudel. Ravi was referring to Prince Myshkin--where Dostoyevsky's 
intent was to create
   
I hope this once, the object of your gratuitous hatred can resist the 
   temptation to take it to you, Ann--because if she does this once 
   more--and you don't realize how ignominiously defeated you are, I will 
   have to send you (this time) into a virtual exile. I am trying to do some 
   good around here, Ann: please learn to whisper more wisely to these other 
   horses.  
   
   
   M:  Let's see here, ,...uhOh, I think I get it now.
   
   Robin is the new Buck. And FFL is the new Dune. The snide schtick has 
   become the man, and as the Beatles say:
   
   Let me take you down `Cause I'm going to... Strawberry Fields Nothing is 
   real And nothing to get hung about. Strawberry Fields forever
   
   (Insert guitar riff here.) 
   
   The tell:
   
a character entirely positive...with an absolutely beautiful nature.
   
   See, I am catching on to the formula. Share has been dissed, and Ann's 
   challenge supported, but it looks like Ann was being chastised.
   
   The overkill, but it makes sure Ann is in on it:
   
   if she does this once more--and you don't realize how ignominiously 
   defeated you are, I will have to send you (this time) into a virtual 
   exile.
   
   Let the cackling commence.
  
  Dear Curtis,
  
  I am not sure I follow you here. But I am aware of one thing: You are 
  interested in my tactics, but not, I see, interested in the issue which has 
  drawn me into Strawberry Fields forever.
 
 M: That is correct, the whole Share interaction with others doesn't interest 
 me at all.
 
 R: You would make a moral stand against my method of expressing my conviction 
 about a matter that I can consider serious enough to warrant being as ironic 
 as I can be?
 
 M: I was not making a moral stand, I was sorting it out for myself.  I have 
 been having some trouble following your post's intent and wanted to figure it 
 out.  Obviously many others have no trouble at all following your method of 
 communication here.  But like Buck it makes following the ball a bit 
 difficult sometimes as you slip in and out of what you are calling your 
 ironic character.
 
 R:
  
  Do you wish to discuss the issue, Curtis? You would imply that my use of 
  irony proves something underhanded and insincere about me, whereas your 
  exposing what is going on here somehow in that revealing is something 
  higher than my deploying my Buck in the Dome side?
 
 M: Higher, lower, those are all your own judgements.  It isn't my style so 
 obviously I have my preferences.  It is hard to pull off in writing so many 
 levels of communication without any support from voice tone or expressions.
 
 R: 
  Let's fight out this issue--I won't stoop to irony, and you won't therefore 
  have some criticism to make of me. Do you know what the issue is, Curtis? 
  You have already given your judgment of that issue in a post. Do you stand 
  behind that judgment?
 
 M: You lost me here. There is the Share deal and then there is my observation 
 of how you are communicating.  Did you read Dune BTW?  My reference there is 
 not all all unflattering, it is one of my favorite books precisely for how 
 they depict very complex multilayered communications.  Which issue do you 
 mean?  I lost interest in your POV on Share after the post I commented on a 
 long time ago where you were trying to get her to experience something about 
 herself.  I don't believe this discussion needs to be framed as a fight.
 
 R:
  
  What I would like to see you do, Curtis--and this would surprise me--is 
  explain why you would in your having (quite effectively) told the FFL 
  readers what's up here feel you had essentially (if implicitly) somehow 
  looked after and answered the issue. Like what Emily is saying in her last 
  post.
 
 M: I find your style of interaction interesting.  I don't find the 
 interactions people are having with Share interesting.  People are making 
 their own choices how they want to show up here, and I consider it all very 
 boring.  I'm sure inside it all it is fascinating for the participants just 
 as my choices of interactions fascinate me.
 
 
 R: 
  Are you willing to address Emily or Ann's point, Curtis? I think your 
  avoidance of the issue far more significant a 'tell' than your ability to 
  see what I am up to here. My response is to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-19 Thread curtisdeltablues



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Curtis, since I'm *reeellly* stooopid and have so much difficulty 
 comprehending what others write, and because I'm the other half of the method 
 used (the methodee, so to speak), I'd be interested in your analysis. It 
 sounds really bad so please respond as quickly as possible so I can rest in 
 peace when the world ends this Friday. And I thank you while I still have the 
 chance.


Hey LG,

I am flattered that you are interested in my two cents.  I was gunna delete it 
after Robin's last tirade.  I am so over being interested in the unholy 
trinity.  But for you, absolutely.  You are a consistent source of a good read 
here, so I would value your opinion.  So get out your umbrella (the one with 
the special shit resistant coating) There might be some showers after this.


Starts:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

R: Don't mind her, Curtis:

Me: Never do.  The suggestion that I had not read the whole thing was absurd.

R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently administered as 
it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost enough blood in all our battles, 
Curtis--one last wound: somehow this seems fitting to me.

M:
Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your consistent 
characterization of any feedback you don't like in this over dramatic way?) I 
was curious to know if this was a calculated use of the exact same thing you 
applied to me, or if you thought it was an original observation.  It seems to 
be like your screwdriver used as a lever, testing a person's internal 
confidence to manage their own self-reflective mental processes, to see if they 
will accept your interpretation of them over their own.  What you are hitting 
at in this peculiar projection, is the presupposition that you might have some 
inside dope on how a person is processing their internal experience.  You are 
offering an unflattering suggestion that a person is not being thoughtful or 
reflective in their life.

R: From the LG post: Look at the reflexive way you are processing this 
very post of mine: there you have exactly what I am trying to tell you: You 
subvert any chance of being in the unknown...

M: It is an attempt to appear as if you are more familiar with a person's 
mental processes than is reasonable to claim.  It is unfriendly, not only in 
content, but in the confidence with which you deliver it.

You have used these exact lines to people here quite often.  I believe it is 
part of the tool kit that may have preceded your taking on students.  I suspect 
that you had this kind of attack fairly well honed in high school or certainly 
by college.  Just a guess.

But with the flammable combination of youth (theirs) conditioning to authority 
(Maharishi), charisma and an unusual sense of self importance (yours) and the 
context you created in your group with the social rules you constructed through 
giving and withholding approval, this became an all-purpose life hack, that 
gave you access through a person's insecurity, to them handing you the right to 
interpret their internal processes.  How they think about themselves.  And like 
all techniques, it is pretty effective  with a preselected type of person in a 
residence setting, but when flung out on a board like this, is too telegraphed 
to have the same effect.

I am not accusing you of trying to start a cult on FFL, because the conditions 
for that ship sailed long ago.  It is more like I am seeing someone insert a 
lock pick into every door they come across because they used to be a burglar, 
and now it is just a habit.  I am not sure if you even know why you do this odd 
thing, you will have to tell me if you choose.

I can tell you that you are getting some feedback from those you have used it 
on that its application is not experienced on the receiving end as pleasant or 
friendly, and once someone has made this move, trust is out of the question. Or 
maybe I am only speaking for myself here.

Interesting stuff.  I was very curious to know how you operated when you 
arrived here and spent a lot of time on the project.  I feel as if in this 
interaction with LG, seen from outside with such vivid familiarity, but without 
the emotional effect of having it done to me, I am understanding you better.

What I don't know, and only you do, is if this is a tragic thing where you 
really can't stop yourself from fucking with people this way, and then are 
surprised by the responses you are getting when you do, or whether this is 
conscious for you.  Unlike you, I am not going to tell you what is going on 
inside you and what your intentions are.  I cannot know this from outside you 
just seeing how you operate here.

So if you are the antithesis of what you have accused  LG and myself among 
others here of, you will take this feedback in and respond with your own take 
on this perspective. Or you might

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-19 Thread laughinggull108

Thanks Curtis. I wasn't expecting such a quick response (as in this evening), 
and I'll need at least overnight and probably most of tomorrow to comprehend 
what you have written. At the moment, I'm trying to follow Judy's advice and 
get some help with my skills at comprehension and expressing a coherent 
thought. Can you recommend someone? Sorry if I'm not expressing myself 
coherently. More later and thanks for the pat.

P.S. Also, I'm a little slow, so keep playing your game until I get wise to it. 
Am I one of the last ones?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  Curtis, since I'm *reeellly* stooopid and have so much difficulty 
  comprehending what others write, and because I'm the other half of the 
  method used (the methodee, so to speak), I'd be interested in your 
  analysis. It sounds really bad so please respond as quickly as possible so 
  I can rest in peace when the world ends this Friday. And I thank you while 
  I still have the chance.
 
 
 Hey LG,
 
 I am flattered that you are interested in my two cents.  I was gunna delete 
 it after Robin's last tirade.  I am so over being interested in the unholy 
 trinity.  But for you, absolutely.  You are a consistent source of a good 
 read here, so I would value your opinion.  So get out your umbrella (the one 
 with the special shit resistant coating) There might be some showers after 
 this.
 
 
 Starts:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@ wrote:
 
 R: Don't mind her, Curtis:
 
 Me: Never do.  The suggestion that I had not read the whole thing was absurd.
 
 R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently administered as 
 it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost enough blood in all our battles, 
 Curtis--one last wound: somehow this seems fitting to me.
 
 M:
 Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your consistent 
 characterization of any feedback you don't like in this over dramatic way?) I 
 was curious to know if this was a calculated use of the exact same thing you 
 applied to me, or if you thought it was an original observation.  It seems to 
 be like your screwdriver used as a lever, testing a person's internal 
 confidence to manage their own self-reflective mental processes, to see if 
 they will accept your interpretation of them over their own.  What you are 
 hitting at in this peculiar projection, is the presupposition that you might 
 have some inside dope on how a person is processing their internal 
 experience.  You are offering an unflattering suggestion that a person is not 
 being thoughtful or reflective in their life.
 
 R: From the LG post: Look at the reflexive way you are processing 
 this very post of mine: there you have exactly what I am trying to tell you: 
 You subvert any chance of being in the unknown...
 
 M: It is an attempt to appear as if you are more familiar with a person's 
 mental processes than is reasonable to claim.  It is unfriendly, not only in 
 content, but in the confidence with which you deliver it.
 
 You have used these exact lines to people here quite often.  I believe it is 
 part of the tool kit that may have preceded your taking on students.  I 
 suspect that you had this kind of attack fairly well honed in high school or 
 certainly by college.  Just a guess.
 
 But with the flammable combination of youth (theirs) conditioning to 
 authority (Maharishi), charisma and an unusual sense of self importance 
 (yours) and the context you created in your group with the social rules you 
 constructed through giving and withholding approval, this became an 
 all-purpose life hack, that gave you access through a person's insecurity, to 
 them handing you the right to interpret their internal processes.  How they 
 think about themselves.  And like all techniques, it is pretty effective  
 with a preselected type of person in a residence setting, but when flung out 
 on a board like this, is too telegraphed to have the same effect.
 
 I am not accusing you of trying to start a cult on FFL, because the 
 conditions for that ship sailed long ago.  It is more like I am seeing 
 someone insert a lock pick into every door they come across because they used 
 to be a burglar, and now it is just a habit.  I am not sure if you even know 
 why you do this odd thing, you will have to tell me if you choose.
 
 I can tell you that you are getting some feedback from those you have used it 
 on that its application is not experienced on the receiving end as pleasant 
 or friendly, and once someone has made this move, trust is out of the 
 question. Or maybe I am only speaking for myself here.
 
 Interesting stuff.  I was very curious to know how you operated when you 
 arrived here and spent a lot of time on the project.  I feel as if in this 
 interaction with LG, seen from outside with such vivid familiarity,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-19 Thread authfriend

Just for starters...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:
snip
[quoting Robin from last week]
 R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently 
 administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
 enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
 somehow this seems fitting to me.
 
 M:
 Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your 
 consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
 this over dramatic way?)

Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
he didn't like:

To raunchydog:
   Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
   smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
   its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
   raw steak.

To Robin:
   The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
   a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
   who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
   heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their 
   sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
   the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
   and gotten him to respond.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula

LOL..the second one is extremely dramatic..troll revelers, intoxicated
with their sturdy goblets of human baby blood..OMG, really cracking me up
with its vivid, violent imagery. Curtis baby - what a melodramatic drama
queen you are !!!

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:34 PM, authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Just for starters...


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@... wrote:
 snip
 [quoting Robin from last week]

  R: I did get what you meant. It was a just rebuke--as gently
  administered as it was. But one gash is enough--I have lost
  enough blood in all our battles, Curtis--one last wound:
  somehow this seems fitting to me.
 
  M:
  Putting the violent metaphor spin aside, (Have you noticed your
  consistent characterization of any feedback you don't like in
  this over dramatic way?)

 Curtis, back in September, after receiving some feedback
 he didn't like:

 To raunchydog:
Does the word brutally' make you think of blood, how it
smells? The warmth on your tongue, before it clots with
its delicious mineral taste, somewhere between liver and
raw steak.

 To Robin:
The fact that it might bug me to have my name signed to
a post that makes me out to be an effete drama teacher
who revels in fey triumphalist statements went over the
heads of the troll revelers, intoxicated with their
sturdy goblets of human baby blood as they danced around
the flickering flames of having taunted someone online
and gotten him to respond.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-18 Thread Share Long

thanks, Xeno.  Personally I don't think it's politically correct to label 
someone politically incorrect (-:

 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 2:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

[wikipedia]:

'Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe mental 
retardation, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises from the Latin word 
imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It included people with an IQ of 
26–50, between moron (IQ of 51–70) and idiot (IQ of 0–25).'

'The meaning was further refined into mental and moral imbecility. The concepts 
of moral insanity, moral idiocy, and moral imbecility, led to the 
emerging field of eugenic criminology, which held that crime can be reduced by 
preventing feeble-minded people from reproducing.'

'The concept is closely associated with psychology, psychiatry, criminology, 
and eugenics. However, the term imbecile quickly passed into vernacular usage 
as a derogatory term, and fell out of professional use in the 20th century in 
favor of mental retardation.'

'In recent decades, the phrases mental retardation, mentally retarded, and 
retarded have similarly come to be viewed as derogatory terms and their usage 
now is considered to be politically incorrect much like the words moron, 
imbecile, and idiot, formerly used as scientific terms in the early 20th 
century, also came to be viewed as derogatory. On October 5, 2010, President 
Barack Obama signed Senate Bill 2781, known as Rosa's Law, which changed 
references in many Federal statutes that referred to mental retardation to 
refer instead to intellectual disability.'

So all you disabie retards, what more idiotic, moronic, imbecilic behaviour can 
we expect here? In view that these now medically disused terms reffered to IQs 
70 or lower, no one here on FFL probably falls into any of these categories, 
though certainly there are times when maybe we wish a wee bit some particular 
person, as the result of some particular post or posts, would thereby fall in 
line with one of these categories.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread turquoiseb

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
  
   If I were a man I'd want to be me.
  
  I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
  sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.
 
 Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann.
 
 (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll
 hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand
 why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)

Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face
at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her
usual drama queenery and faux outrage. 

What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as 
committed to turning *everything* into an argument
as Judy is understood -- is that I cannot imagine 
anything more trying than maintaining a relationship 
with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other 
sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of 
narcissism that would be tough to cope with. 

Relationships are all about the *differences* between
people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin 
and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* 
to be with a clone of themselves? I'm just suggesting 
that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very 
telling. 

Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet 
Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to 
drag things down to her level.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Share Long

Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.

 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I meant.Â  
 Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something Emily 
 attributed to me yesterday.
 Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind of 
context.

2. 'let alone express it.'

To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if 
you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word is 
typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, and 
suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would require 
you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious post by me. 
I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - and did not feel 
like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up the subject of 
whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I do believe I know 
what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with it. Do not take me 
seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't 
even know what it is/was.

  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:19 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 stooopid

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:

  dear FFL, just to set the record straight:Â  I don't even THINK the word 
  imbecile much less express it.

 And so, Share, how did you manage to write the above passage? In case you 
 think this is a criticism, this is a philosophical question.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread feste37



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in
   every post from now on. I for one would like to know what
   peculiar magic he  possessed that enabled him to saddle up
   that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset.
  
  Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I
  can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor
  you've used to express it.
 
 Unlike you, Ann had no objection to it. In fact, she picked
 it up and ran with it. Lighten up, authfriend!

It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected
to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and
ignoring the sexism. 
 
 You read it right. I agree with what you say here, completely.
 
 Since the compliment wasn't directed
at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I
see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have
said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have
come out smelling like a rose.
   
   I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it
   deliberately, with a little bit of a smile. What you are
   doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on
   behalf of someone who is not the least bit offended.
  
  Let me say it another way: That Ann did not express offense
  does NOT mean that the metaphor wasn't sexist, or that sexism
  isn't offensive. I wasn't offended on Ann's behalf; she gets
  to decide whether she was offended by your sexism. 
 
 Correct, and I thought I might be for just a moment or two but the unexpected 
 nature of Feste's post after many weeks of not interacting with him was 
 pleasant in spite of the sexist overtone. I figured I could let it go and 
 focus on a different aspect of what he was saying although I considered 
 addressing the fact that he used a metaphor that implied some man had 
 broken the spirited filly and rode her off after dominating and taming her.
 And since I know that that is not actually the case I can ignore it and just 
 let it go - this time. Now I can think of others who I might not be so 
 forgiving of...

Actually, it was the case. That was exactly what the metaphor implied. I was 
completely aware of it. If the witch wants to call it sexist, I don't care. I 
was having fun. Lighten up, girls!

 
 But Judy, I love you for what you wrote; you are still the dominant lioness 
 here and let no one forget it. I certainly won't. And lions just won't accept 
 a saddle, let alone a bridle.
 
 I get to
  decide whether I find it offensive, not her, and *certainly*
  not you.
  
  Get it now?
  
  You've just told us that you enjoy making sexist remarks.
  Now we know something about you we didn't know before.
  Everyone is entitled to decide on their own behalf whether
  they find that cute, or deplorable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread awoelflebater



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in
every post from now on. I for one would like to know what
peculiar magic he  possessed that enabled him to saddle up
that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset.
   
   Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I
   can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor
   you've used to express it.
  
  Unlike you, Ann had no objection to it. In fact, she picked
  it up and ran with it. Lighten up, authfriend!
 
 It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected
 to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and
 ignoring the sexism. 
  
  You read it right. I agree with what you say here, completely.
  
  Since the compliment wasn't directed
 at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I
 see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have
 said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have
 come out smelling like a rose.

I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it
deliberately, with a little bit of a smile. What you are
doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on
behalf of someone who is not the least bit offended.
   
   Let me say it another way: That Ann did not express offense
   does NOT mean that the metaphor wasn't sexist, or that sexism
   isn't offensive. I wasn't offended on Ann's behalf; she gets
   to decide whether she was offended by your sexism. 
  
  Correct, and I thought I might be for just a moment or two but the 
  unexpected nature of Feste's post after many weeks of not interacting with 
  him was pleasant in spite of the sexist overtone. I figured I could let it 
  go and focus on a different aspect of what he was saying although I 
  considered addressing the fact that he used a metaphor that implied some 
  man had broken the spirited filly and rode her off after dominating and 
  taming her.
  And since I know that that is not actually the case I can ignore it and 
  just let it go - this time. Now I can think of others who I might not be so 
  forgiving of...
 
 Actually, it was the case. That was exactly what the metaphor implied. I was 
 completely aware of it. If the witch wants to call it sexist, I don't care. I 
 was having fun. Lighten up, girls!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA

 
  
  But Judy, I love you for what you wrote; you are still the dominant lioness 
  here and let no one forget it. I certainly won't. And lions just won't 
  accept a saddle, let alone a bridle.
  
  I get to
   decide whether I find it offensive, not her, and *certainly*
   not you.
   
   Get it now?
   
   You've just told us that you enjoy making sexist remarks.
   Now we know something about you we didn't know before.
   Everyone is entitled to decide on their own behalf whether
   they find that cute, or deplorable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread feste37

Loved it! Now tell me, is there any way a sense of humor might be implanted in 
authfriend, even at this late stage in her life? Is it possible? Has anyone 
ever had a humor implant?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ 
wrote:

 On the contrary, I think we should mention Ann's hubby in
 every post from now on. I for one would like to know what
 peculiar magic he  possessed that enabled him to saddle up
 that spirited filly and ride her off into the sunset.

Yeesh. Although I'm in full sympathy with the sentiment, I
can't help pointing out what an incredibly sexist metaphor
you've used to express it.
   
   Unlike you, Ann had no objection to it. In fact, she picked
   it up and ran with it. Lighten up, authfriend!
  
  It's a sexist metaphor regardless of whether Ann objected
  to it. She was responding graciously to the compliment and
  ignoring the sexism. 
   
   You read it right. I agree with what you say here, completely.
   
   Since the compliment wasn't directed
  at me, I have no need to be gracious and can call it as I
  see it, see? Don't be such a pompous ass. You could have
  said, Yes, I guess it was, sorry about that! and have
  come out smelling like a rose.
 
 I'm not sorry about it at all. I like it. I chose it
 deliberately, with a little bit of a smile. What you are
 doing here is what you do so often -- getting offended on
 behalf of someone who is not the least bit offended.

Let me say it another way: That Ann did not express offense
does NOT mean that the metaphor wasn't sexist, or that sexism
isn't offensive. I wasn't offended on Ann's behalf; she gets
to decide whether she was offended by your sexism. 
   
   Correct, and I thought I might be for just a moment or two but the 
   unexpected nature of Feste's post after many weeks of not interacting 
   with him was pleasant in spite of the sexist overtone. I figured I could 
   let it go and focus on a different aspect of what he was saying although 
   I considered addressing the fact that he used a metaphor that implied 
   some man had broken the spirited filly and rode her off after 
   dominating and taming her.
   And since I know that that is not actually the case I can ignore it and 
   just let it go - this time. Now I can think of others who I might not be 
   so forgiving of...
  
  Actually, it was the case. That was exactly what the metaphor implied. I 
  was completely aware of it. If the witch wants to call it sexist, I don't 
  care. I was having fun. Lighten up, girls!
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt0_oPPK6eA
 
  
   
   But Judy, I love you for what you wrote; you are still the dominant 
   lioness here and let no one forget it. I certainly won't. And lions just 
   won't accept a saddle, let alone a bridle.
   
   I get to
decide whether I find it offensive, not her, and *certainly*
not you.

Get it now?

You've just told us that you enjoy making sexist remarks.
Now we know something about you we didn't know before.
Everyone is entitled to decide on their own behalf whether
they find that cute, or deplorable.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
   
If I were a man I'd want to be me.
   
   I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
   sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.
  
  Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann.
  
  (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll
  hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand
  why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)
 
 Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face
 at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her
 usual drama queenery and faux outrage.

As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

As if the smiley face would make any difference.

Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a
comeback.

 What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as 
 committed to turning *everything* into an argument
 as Judy is understood

No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it
into an argument.

 -- is that I cannot imagine 
 anything more trying than maintaining a relationship 
 with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other 
 sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of 
 narcissism that would be tough to cope with.

And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she
meant. What an insane interpretation.

 Relationships are all about the *differences* between
 people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin 
 and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* 
 to be with a clone of themselves? 

Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she
wrote again, you demented dimwit:

And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I
were a man I'd want to be me.

Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your
twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man
would be just like me.

 I'm just suggesting 
 that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very 
 telling.

What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your
mental faculties exemplified by this post.

And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage
about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant
your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann.

 Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet 
 Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to 
 drag things down to her level.

There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start
one, but you just made yourself look RLY
RLY STPID.

Now go sit in the corner.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread Robin Carlsen

If I were a man I would want to be me.

Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the 
imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind 
of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific attributes 
which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There is no 
limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the recognition *as a 
person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her personal 
ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man.

It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: 
Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just 
based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the 
possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says what 
a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute the basis 
for being a man she would respect and love.

She can see herself as being a beautiful man.

Now, that's some woman.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:

 If I were a man I'd want to be me.

I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.
   
   Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann.
   
   (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll
   hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand
   why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)
  
  Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face
  at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her
  usual drama queenery and faux outrage.
 
 As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
 
 As if the smiley face would make any difference.
 
 Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a
 comeback.
 
  What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as 
  committed to turning *everything* into an argument
  as Judy is understood
 
 No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it
 into an argument.
 
  -- is that I cannot imagine 
  anything more trying than maintaining a relationship 
  with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other 
  sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of 
  narcissism that would be tough to cope with.
 
 And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she
 meant. What an insane interpretation.
 
  Relationships are all about the *differences* between
  people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin 
  and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* 
  to be with a clone of themselves? 
 
 Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she
 wrote again, you demented dimwit:
 
 And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I
 were a man I'd want to be me.
 
 Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your
 twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man
 would be just like me.
 
  I'm just suggesting 
  that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very 
  telling.
 
 What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your
 mental faculties exemplified by this post.
 
 And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage
 about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant
 your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann.
 
  Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet 
  Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to 
  drag things down to her level.
 
 There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start
 one, but you just made yourself look RLY
 RLY STPID.
 
 Now go sit in the corner.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread Richard J. Williams



emptybill:
 Here you are, screeching like an obsessive old lady
 with nothing better to do.  Is this what your balls 
 are for ... or do you just make this stuff up 'cause 
 you can't think of anything informative to say?
 
Some people just feel better when they have someone
to talk to. LoL!

If I were a man I'd want to be me.
  
   I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
   sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.
  
   :-)
  
  Leave Ann's hubby out of this you paranoid, 
  delusional, narcissistic asshole !!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread oxcart49



:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
  
   If I were a man I'd want to be me.
  
  I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
  sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.
 
 Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann.
 
 (Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll
 hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand
 why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ 
  wrote:
  
   CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's
   husband  I
  
  You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend.
 
 Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I
 nailed -  oh well, you got me there :-)

Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only
mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I
figured you really wanted it to be right.

If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has
to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I.




   you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa.
   
   On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@wrote:
   
Stay away from me and Ann's hubby - you creepy, evil
Sorcerer from Iowa.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Ravi Chivukula

We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing
sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week,
the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At
least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts
and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG,
Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be
accepted. Thanks Share.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.


   --
 *From:* Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or
 reeely to Xeno


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
  Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I
 meant.Â  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something
 Emily attributed to me yesterday.
  Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

 I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

 But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some
 kind of context.

 2. 'let alone express it.'

 To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even
 if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the
 word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word
 means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting
 it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a
 serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be
 away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even
 bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it
 was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was
 having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with
 Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

Thanks Judy.  I've been misusing the words than and then - and that's 
pretty obvious a difference.  

 From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
stooopid

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... 
wrote:

 On Dec 16, 2012, at 3:43 PM, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ 
  wrote:

   CORRECTION: Stay away from the innocent purity of Ann's
   husband  I

  You had the pronoun (me) right the first time, my friend.

 Damn I thought I had the formula on the usage of me vs I
 nailed -  oh well, you got me there :-)

Lots of native English speakers get it wrong too. I only
mentioned it because you called it a correction, so I
figured you really wanted it to be right.

If the pronoun is part of a prepositional phrase, it has
to be me. You wouldn't say the innocent purity of I.

   you creepy, evil Sorcerer from Iowa.

   On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@wrote:

Stay away from me and Ann's hubby - you creepy, evil
Sorcerer from Iowa.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always 
the case when one is always right. 

 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno

We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing 
sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, 
the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least 
one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and proof 
of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG, Oxcart and 
myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. Thanks 
Share.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.

 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to 
Xeno

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I 
 meant.Â  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something 
 Emily attributed to me yesterday.
 Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind 
of context.

2. 'let alone express it.'

To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even if 
you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the word 
is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word means, 
and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it would 
require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a serious 
post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be away - 
and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even bringing up 
the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was snipped. I 
do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was having fun with 
it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily was not in my 
mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

The apology below was a simple acknowledgement of something that didn't really 
matter (she was right; he deleted the meaning of that email).  Apologies don't 
mean anything they don't cost you anything.

 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno

One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is always 
the case when one is always right. 

 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
to Xeno

We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing 
sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, 
the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At least 
one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts and 
proof of attendance and upload it to the files section.  I appoint LG, Oxcart 
and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be accepted. 
Thanks Share.

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.

 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to 
Xeno

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I 
 meant.Â  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about something 
 Emily attributed to me yesterday.
 Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?

I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.

1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'

But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some kind 
of context.

2. 'let alone express it.'

To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even 
if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the 
word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word 
means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting it 
would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not a 
serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to be 
away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not even 
bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why it was 
snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I was 
having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with Emily 
was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread emilymae.reyn

Dear Share (you'll note I gave up the term Sharester when you said you 
perceived it as something negative.)  You responded by calling me EmilyBoo at 
the end.  Please see Dr. Dumbass's apology to Curtis and Curtis's reply.  
Please note Feste's apology to Robin and Robin's reply.  These are good 
examples of what an apology might look like, literally.  The humorous ones I 
note all the time I won't mention, because they might only be humorous to me.  
I am a tiny bit creepy.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:

 The apology below was a simple acknowledgement of something that didn't 
 really matter (she was right; he deleted the meaning of that email). 
 Â Apologies don't mean anything they don't cost you anything.
 
 
 
 
  From: Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 11:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 to Xeno
  
 
 One doesn't apologize when there is nothing to apologize for, which is 
 always the case when one is always right.Â 
 
 
 
 
  From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or 
 reeely to Xeno
  
 
 Â  
 We have gone way past a simple sorry Share. You need to take 2 healing 
 sessions and one session with your pastoral counselor within the next week, 
 the first healing session must take place within the next 48 hours. At 
 least one of them should be John Newton approved. Please scan all receipts 
 and proof of attendance and upload it to the files section. Â I appoint LG, 
 Oxcart and myself to review these, once approved your apologies will be 
 accepted. Thanks Share.
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
 Ok, sorry, thanks for explaining.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 8:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely 
 to Xeno
  
 
 Â  
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Xeno you've chosen to snip the rest of my post which explains what I 
  meant.ÃÂ  Just to be more clear, I was writing of course about 
  something Emily attributed to me yesterday.
  Which philosophy is your question and snipping an expression of?
 
 I think you misunderstood the intent of my short post.
 
 1. You said 'I don't even THINK the word imbecile'
 
 But of course you have to think a word to write it, especially in some 
 kind of context.
 
 2. 'let alone express it.'
 
 To write it and to post it you also have to express it in some manner even 
 if you do not intend to use the word directed at someone, which is how the 
 word is typically used. And you must also know something of what the word 
 means, and suppose that others also know what it means, otherwise posting 
 it would require you to define it so you would be understood. This is not 
 a serious post by me. I have been lightly touching in on FFL - its nice to 
 be away - and did not feel like some serious discussion. So, I was not 
 even bringing up the subject of whatever the discussion was, which was why 
 it was snipped. I do believe I know what you intended by the remark, but I 
 was having fun with it. Do not take me seriously here. Your situation with 
 Emily was not in my mind at all. I don't even know what it is/was.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely to Xeno

2012-12-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius

[wikipedia]:

'Imbecile was a medical category of people with moderate to severe mental 
retardation, as well as a type of criminal. The term arises from the Latin word 
imbecillus, meaning weak, or weak-minded. It included people with an IQ of 
2650, between moron (IQ of 5170) and idiot (IQ of 025).'

'The meaning was further refined into mental and moral imbecility. The concepts 
of moral insanity, moral idiocy, and moral imbecility, led to the 
emerging field of eugenic criminology, which held that crime can be reduced by 
preventing feeble-minded people from reproducing.'

'The concept is closely associated with psychology, psychiatry, criminology, 
and eugenics. However, the term imbecile quickly passed into vernacular usage 
as a derogatory term, and fell out of professional use in the 20th century in 
favor of mental retardation.'

'In recent decades, the phrases mental retardation, mentally retarded, and 
retarded have similarly come to be viewed as derogatory terms and their usage 
now is considered to be politically incorrect much like the words moron, 
imbecile, and idiot, formerly used as scientific terms in the early 20th 
century, also came to be viewed as derogatory. On October 5, 2010, President 
Barack Obama signed Senate Bill 2781, known as Rosa's Law, which changed 
references in many Federal statutes that referred to mental retardation to 
refer instead to intellectual disability.'

So all you disabie retards, what more idiotic, moronic, imbecilic behaviour can 
we expect here? In view that these now medically disused terms reffered to IQs 
70 or lower, no one here on FFL probably falls into any of these categories, 
though certainly there are times when maybe we wish a wee bit some particular 
person, as the result of some particular post or posts, would thereby fall in 
line with one of these categories.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid

2012-12-17 Thread awoelflebater



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 If I were a man I would want to be me.
 
 Ann likes the person that she is. Her femaleness does not deprive her of the 
 imagination to conceive of herself as a man--and yet in thinking of what kind 
 of man she would like to be, she realizes she possesses the specific 
 attributes which, for her, would be almost ideal in having to be a man. There 
 is no limitation imposed upon herself as a woman; but there is the 
 recognition *as a person* she encompasses--or could encompass, based upon her 
 personal ingredients--the form of herself imagined as a man.
 
 It is also a kind of private in-joke between Ann and all those who know her: 
 Ann has a large enough personality to make it an unnatural act to defer--just 
 based on her femininity--to any man. Ann holds within her person, then, the 
 possibility of transmuting what she is, into the form of a man--which says 
 what a powerful woman she is--and yet how her very person would constitute 
 the basis for being a man she would respect and love.
 
 She can see herself as being a beautiful man.
 
 Now, that's some woman.

Thank you for this, very kind words indeed. I would say that the sense I have 
always had of myself has transcended gender and has always just been a sense of 
me without the male or female attached to it. But I know that my father was a 
contributing factor in never allowing me to feel in any way less, compromised, 
incapable or undermined by the fact of my female gender. He was a very equal 
opportunity guy who would never have dreamed his daughter was handicapped in 
some way having been born a woman. That definitely rubbed off on me growing up. 

And since the subject of husbands has come up it is also interesting to note 
that while I embody aspects of what many people categorize as male my spouse is 
also gifted with some wonderful female qualities. All of these sides of us 
coming together within our relationship is what makes the two of us a whole.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
 
  If I were a man I'd want to be me.
 
 I cannot help but go on the record here and feel
 sorry for Ann's hubby, not for the first time.

Ooh, stinging. I'll bet this will just devastate Ann.

(Actually, I bet she'll show it to her hubby, and he'll
hurt himself laughing. But we can certainly understand
why a woman like Ann would be a nightmare for Barry.)
   
   Please note that Judy carefully snipped the smiley face
   at the end of my post, so that she could exercise her
   usual drama queenery and faux outrage.
  
  As Emily would say, A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
  
  As if the smiley face would make any difference.
  
  Barry's having a *really* hard time coughing up a
  comeback.
  
   What I meant -- and I suspect many people not as 
   committed to turning *everything* into an argument
   as Judy is understood
  
  No, son, I made my point. *You're* trying to turn it
  into an argument.
  
   -- is that I cannot imagine 
   anything more trying than maintaining a relationship 
   with someone (of either sex) whose ideal in the other 
   sex is someone just like them. That's a kind of 
   narcissism that would be tough to cope with.
  
  And of course that isn't what Ann said, nor what she
  meant. What an insane interpretation.
  
   Relationships are all about the *differences* between
   people, not the similarities. Who -- other than Robin 
   and/or people indoctrinated by him -- would ever *want* 
   to be with a clone of themselves? 
  
  Nobody would want that. Including Ann. Read what she
  wrote again, you demented dimwit:
  
  And if Share were a man she wants to be Steve. If I
  were a man I'd want to be me.
  
  Nothing to do with a *relationship*. It's only your
  twisted mind that would make this into, My ideal man
  would be just like me.
  
   I'm just suggesting 
   that, even as a passing aside, Ann's comment was very 
   telling.
  
  What's telling, Barry, is the deterioration of your
  mental faculties exemplified by this post.
  
  And note that you've managed to bust your faux outrage
  about my not quoting your smiley face. You never meant
  your remark to be anything but a nasty putdown of Ann.
  
   Judy's? That just more of her normal nastiness and Yet 
   Another Attempt to get everybody arguing, and thus to 
   drag things down to her level.
  
  There's no argument here, Barry. *You* tried to start
  one, but you just made yourself look RLY
  RLY STPID.
  
  Now go sit in the corner.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Which is worse,,,really stupid or reeely stooopid