[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ilk It was a rhetorical question, but thanks. ;-) Sorry. I thought perhaps that is a primarily British English word... :]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ilk It was a rhetorical question, but thanks. ;-) Sorry. I thought perhaps that is a primarily British English word... :] Nyah. I was just asking what is an ilk in the context of you and your ilk.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
What's wrong with the Brits? If MMY was going to curse an entire nation, why not curse the Germans, Syrians, Israelis, or the Texans? The Brits have given the world so much. Without them we would not have blue grass music! Lay off the Brits, man! Bite some kraut!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mainly because he robbed them of their ignorance, and you know the old saying, Ignorance is Bliss. Some of these folks were 'happy' in the comfort of their ego-instigated desires and ambitions (sankalpas), and along comes MMY and steals all that 'peace' away by the application of the ointment of knowledge!! This isn't what they had bargained for at all...and NOW, well now, NO peace. Once the light has dawned the darkness and shadows (wickedness) struggle to hold on, and hence the dilemma. What happened to the peace, energy and happiness MMY promised; now I'm miserable in the awareness of my own wickedness, NO, NO, NO, I won't give in, I will fight!! So now you now how TMfree-blog got started:-) P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking. Hilarious and insightful! I especially like the quote at the end.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mainly because he robbed them of their ignorance, and you know the old saying, Ignorance is Bliss. Some of these folks were 'happy' in the comfort of their ego-instigated desires and ambitions (sankalpas), and along comes MMY and steals all that 'peace' away by the application of the ointment of knowledge!! This isn't what they had bargained for at all...and NOW, well now, NO peace. Once the light has dawned the darkness and shadows (wickedness) struggle to hold on, and hence the dilemma. What happened to the peace, energy and happiness MMY promised; now I'm miserable in the awareness of my own wickedness, NO, NO, NO, I won't give in, I will fight!! So now you now how TMfree-blog got started:-) P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo wgm4u@ wrote: Mainly because he robbed them of their ignorance, and you know the old saying, Ignorance is Bliss. Some of these folks were 'happy' in the comfort of their ego-instigated desires and ambitions (sankalpas), and along comes MMY and steals all that 'peace' away by the application of the ointment of knowledge!! This isn't what they had bargained for at all...and NOW, well now, NO peace. Once the light has dawned the darkness and shadows (wickedness) struggle to hold on, and hence the dilemma. What happened to the peace, energy and happiness MMY promised; now I'm miserable in the awareness of my own wickedness, NO, NO, NO, I won't give in, I will fight!! So now you now how TMfree-blog got started:-) P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. Very true, Paul. I wonder, then, why it is that you characterize criticism of MMY's critics as hate mail. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. And what ilk do you deserve to be represented by, Paul? I mean, you wouldn't characterize the following as hate mail, would you? Then Lawson, you are a coward as well as a fool! Interestingly, you are the first and only person I know of who has every attempted to cast aspertions [sic] on the reputation of Guru Dev. In your bid to champion his student Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, you dishonour his guru? You have my utter contempt and scorn 1. for being a coward 2. being so dishonourable.--Paul Mason, February 13, 2007, on FFL (What Lawson had said that so outraged Paul: MMY, though he will never acknowledge the fact, surpassed his Master many decades ago.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
I don't know that those people hate MMY any more than people who oppose the Iraq war hate the troops. What people hate are lies and hypocrisy, which taint both situations. What lies are you suggesting ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking. Hilarious and insightful! I especially like the quote at the end. Haha, the small barking dogs of FFL will continue to make noise no doubt - as long as they are fed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
Paul Mason wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. One informer here called me crazy, another called me nuts, Paul. Judy lied and said I lived under a bridge. Can you believe that? They really hate me, Paul, but I like your book and I don't care what they say about you. Barry has a nice thread about what these TMers really believe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. milk without the mmm?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
Hi Richard The thing is that quoting facts is better than heresay. My bio of Maharishi many, many verbatim quotes that even many TM teachers had not heard before. However, because there is a lot of frustrated individuals who have yet to offer any original research, they resort to personal attacks. I have read your research on Sri Vidhya the early history of the movement etc and it interests me. But none of the posters who are so prone to vitriolic outbursts have produced any research at all, just billowing hot-air, and sometimes polluted at that. That I produce wodges of quotes from Maharishi, Guru Dev, Satyanand, Charlie Lutes seems to be of no value to these so-called defenders of Maharishi and TM. They seem to think they will earn their laurels by being anti-Paul Mason? Whatever! But at the end of the day, they know they have contributed nothing worthwhile for their cause. So, it is sour grapes, and those who really have something to contribute to the story are happy to exchange cordial emails with me. Jay Gurudev --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Mason wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. One informer here called me crazy, another called me nuts, Paul. Judy lied and said I lived under a bridge. Can you believe that? They really hate me, Paul, but I like your book and I don't care what they say about you. Barry has a nice thread about what these TMers really believe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Richard The thing is that quoting facts is better than heresay. My bio of Maharishi many, many verbatim quotes that even many TM teachers had not heard before. However, because there is a lot of frustrated individuals who have yet to offer any original research, they resort to personal attacks. I have read your research on Sri Vidhya the early history of the movement etc and it interests me. But none of the posters who are so prone to vitriolic outbursts have produced any research at all, just billowing hot-air, and sometimes polluted at that. So one must produce actual original research before being allowed to criticize a researcher? That I produce wodges of quotes from Maharishi, Guru Dev, Satyanand, Charlie Lutes seems to be of no value to these so-called defenders of Maharishi and TM. They seem to think they will earn their laurels by being anti-Paul Mason? Whatever! But at the end of the day, they know they have contributed nothing worthwhile for their cause. You seem to think that because you've produced wodges of quotes from MMY, Guru Dev, et cetera, that you should therefore be immune from any criticism for any reason. (BTW, I've explicitly said I thought your Guru Dev quotes are a great contribution.) So, it is sour grapes, and those who really have something to contribute to the story are happy to exchange cordial emails with me. Jay Gurudev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking. Hilarious and insightful! I especially like the quote at the end. Haha, the small barking dogs of FFL will continue to make noise no doubt - as long as they are fed. Or until the majestic Elephant squashes them :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
But none of the posters who are so prone to vitriolic outbursts have produced any research at all, just billowing hot-air, and sometimes polluted at that. Paul Mason, now the selfcreated expert on research and pollution. Well in pollution he is quite good. The Brits can be difficult to understand. But in the business of capitalising on others they are experts. They had an Empire, long time lost. Why did Maharishi kick out the Brits from Purusha ? For good reason. They try to suck the blood out of everyone they meet, it being foreign Nations or Saints. They are a sorry people that will have to pay for their colonization, upression and rascism for generations to come. In Europe they are mostly known as a sorry lot trying desperately to capitalise on others. Read The Sun lately ? This Paul Mason fellow is desperate to drum up any, ANY, socalled scandal. He, like most of the Brits are desperate to make a quick buck because they are morally and financially bankrupt.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking. Hilarious and insightful! I especially like the quote at the end. Haha, the small barking dogs of FFL will continue to make noise no doubt - as long as they are fed. Or until the majestic Elephant squashes them :-) Now what would that majestic Elephant be ? My take is that it is simply Karma, selfcreated :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking. Hilarious and insightful! I especially like the quote at the end. Haha, the small barking dogs of FFL will continue to make noise no doubt - as long as they are fed. Or until the majestic Elephant squashes them :-) Now what would that majestic Elephant be ? My take is that it is simply Karma, selfcreated :-) Yep, a natural invitation from the barking dogs.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ilk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo wgm4u@ wrote: Mainly because he robbed them of their ignorance, and you know the old saying, Ignorance is Bliss. Some of these folks were 'happy' in the comfort of their ego-instigated desires and ambitions (sankalpas), and along comes MMY and steals all that 'peace' away by the application of the ointment of knowledge!! This isn't what they had bargained for at all...and NOW, well now, NO peace. Once the light has dawned the darkness and shadows (wickedness) struggle to hold on, and hence the dilemma. What happened to the peace, energy and happiness MMY promised; now I'm miserable in the awareness of my own wickedness, NO, NO, NO, I won't give in, I will fight!! So now you now how TMfree-blog got started:-) P.S. Like MMY use to say, When the majestic Elephant walks thru the village, the dogs start barking.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? Yeah..it sounds a little hateful to me!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
Perhaps people who are determined to write poison pen letters such as the one you wrote earlier ought first to consider writing under your given name. It appears so cowardly otherwise. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mr. Magoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? Yeah..it sounds a little hateful to me!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Richard The thing is that quoting facts is better than heresay. My bio of Maharishi many, many verbatim quotes that even many TM teachers had not heard before. However, because there is a lot of frustrated individuals who have yet to offer any original research, they resort to personal attacks. I have read your research on Sri Vidhya the early history of the movement etc and it interests me. But none of the posters who are so prone to vitriolic outbursts have produced any research at all, just billowing hot-air, and sometimes polluted at that. That I produce wodges of quotes from Maharishi, Guru Dev, Satyanand, Charlie Lutes seems to be of no value to these so-called defenders of Maharishi and TM. They seem to think they will earn their laurels by being anti-Paul Mason? Whatever! But at the end of the day, they know they have contributed nothing worthwhile for their cause. So, it is sour grapes, and those who really have something to contribute to the story are happy to exchange cordial emails with me. Jay Gurudev Yeah, but you usually don't blast them in public for things you misread in the first place... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Paul Mason wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. One informer here called me crazy, another called me nuts, Paul. Judy lied and said I lived under a bridge. Can you believe that? They really hate me, Paul, but I like your book and I don't care what they say about you. Barry has a nice thread about what these TMers really believe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why some people 'hate' MMY......
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason premanandpaul@ wrote: I have had (friendly) emails on the side from quite a few of the posters here, and it is disturbing to see some of you post 'hate' mail against critics of Maharishi. Actually, it is quite possible to be critical of someone without hating him. But anyway, I suspect you are in good company as Maharishi has never been good at dealing with criticism, so I guess he deserves to be represented by you and your ilk. What is an ilk? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ilk It was a rhetorical question, but thanks. ;-)
