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I was certainly curious about someone regarded so very highly by Maharishi, I was not looking for family status at the time so much as just biographical information, nothing for you to be alarmed about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Dr Tony Nader's marital and family status were always easily searchable on french language medical profession websites.
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On 3/16/2014 9:29 AM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: Dr Tony Nader's marital and family status were always easily searchable on french language medical profession websites. So, why were you searching for Tony Nader's marital and family status?
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From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted The Fairfield Fight Club association has created a new form of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts). It will be called MMY for Mixed Martial Yagyas. Be afraid. Good one. Just to finish up on this tempest in a pisspot topic, here are two last questions/koans for the diehard supporters of the TM pundit program: First, those who feel that these kids are being compassionately lifted from the grip of poverty and being taught a useful trade that will allow them to support themselves in the future, can you tell me where else *other than* the TM movement, with its stockpiles of gullible contributors, they'll be able to find work chanting Vedic hymns? Is there a big market for this kinda work in India? When the TM movement folds and these kids try to apply their new skills in the open market, will there be a lot of opportunities waiting for them out there? And what will these jobs *pay*? Will it be more than $50 per month? If they don't, I've got a tip for the pundits -- learn how to make balloon animals at children's parties. It pays more, and is in many ways more dignified. Second -- and this one is for the homophobes here, of which we all know we have a few -- why haven't you spoken up about the practice of taking hundreds of young boys full of raging hormones and normal teenage sex-lust and penning them up in groups of sex-starved guys just like themselves in a barbed-wire compound in the middle of nowhere? They aren't allowed to leave, they aren't allowed to even *see* women, much less date them. Forget the homosexuality-promoting evils of Barney the Dinosaur and the Teletubbies and most recently Frozen -- how can you homophones *not* view the pundit program as anything *other than* a training ground for homosexuals? Then again, maybe being brought up with Vedic values will take, and they'll grow up to be honorable, lifelong celibates like Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Girish Varma. :-)
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 11:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted The Fairfield Fight Club association has created a new form of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts). It will be called MMY for Mixed Martial Yagyas. Be afraid. Barry continues to drone on: Good one. Just to finish up on this tempest in a pisspot topic, I doubt you're finished, you are getting too much mileage out of this pisspot topic. If I had known such small, insignificant things could get you so excited I would have sent you more newspaper clippings about our local senior's bridge club get togethers sooner. They make this pandit fiasco pale by comparison.
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On 3/14/2014 8:00 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: I doubt you're finished, you are getting too much mileage out of this pisspot topic. If I had known such small, insignificant things could get you so excited I would have sent you more newspaper clippings about our local senior's bridge club get togethers sooner. They make this pandit fiasco pale by comparison. You should have been around when Barry went bat-shit crazy when he read a message on Usenet that Tony Nader was married and had a daughter going to school in Paris. He and Lon B. Stacks just went ballistic with glee at that one - like it was any of their business. There must have been hundreds of posts sent in by these two and others making fun of Tony Nader. They got so excited that I had to remind them in the strongest language, to leave Tony's family, or anyone's family and children, out of the discussion. It looked like to me they were trying to out Tony and where he lived and where his daughter was going to school. I think we all pretty much knew back then why Barry and Lon got so excited and worked up about it. Apparently they both got kicked out of the TMO years ago - in Barry's case, kicked out of the TMO and then kicked out of the Rama Cult. Lon P. Stacks is dead now, but Barry seems to be still suffering from this rejection that happened over twenty years ago. Go figure.
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On 3/14/2014 2:28 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Forget the homosexuality-promoting evils of Barney the Dinosaur and the Teletubbies and most recently Frozen -- how can you homophones *not* view the pundit program as anything *other than* a training ground for homosexuals? Maybe it's time for Barry to take a long sabbatical from posting to FFL, and then in a year or two, return here to dialog like a gentleman, or at least like a scholar - at present he is neither. Maybe he has been watching way to much TV! Go figure.
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FFL learned of Nader's marriage and two children on January 16, 2010, via a memo from John Hagelin posted by brian64705. It was never discussed on alt.m.t, and certainly never discussed on FFL by Lon Stacks (who was never an FFL member and who was dead by then anyway). https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/238789 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/238789 You should have been around when Barry went bat-shit crazy when he read a message on Usenet that Tony Nader was married and had a daughter going to school in Paris. He and Lon B. Stacks just went ballistic with glee at that one - like it was any of their business. There must have been hundreds of posts sent in by these two and others making fun of Tony Nader. They got so excited that I had to remind them in the strongest language, to leave Tony's family, or anyone's family and children, out of the discussion. It looked like to me they were trying to out Tony and where he lived and where his daughter was going to school. I think we all pretty much knew back then why Barry and Lon got so excited and worked up about it. Apparently they both got kicked out of the TMO years ago - in Barry's case, kicked out of the TMO and then kicked out of the Rama Cult. Lon P. Stacks is dead now, but Barry seems to be still suffering from this rejection that happened over twenty years ago. Go figure.
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On 3/14/2014 10:37 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: FFL learned of Nader's marriage and two children on January 16, 2010, via a memo from John Hagelin posted by brian64705. It was never discussed on alt.m.t, and certainly never discussed on FFL by Lon Stacks (who was never an FFL member and who was dead by then anyway). You may be right, You're probably right, Stacks was dead by then. Lon is a documented chronic, malicious liar. I was probably thinking of Barry and Curtis in this exchange: http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg186348.html But, Barry did go bat-shot crazy over the news. Nobody can deny that. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/238789 You should have been around when Barry went bat-shit crazy when he read a message on Usenet that Tony Nader was married and had a daughter going to school in Paris. He and Lon B. Stacks just went ballistic with glee at that one - like it was any of their business. There must have been hundreds of posts sent in by these two and others making fun of Tony Nader. They got so excited that I had to remind them in the strongest language, to leave Tony's family, or anyone's family and children, out of the discussion. It looked like to me they were trying to out Tony and where he lived and where his daughter was going to school. I think we all pretty much knew back then why Barry and Lon got so excited and worked up about it. Apparently they both got kicked out of the TMO years ago - in Barry's case, kicked out of the TMO and then kicked out of the Rama Cult. Lon P. Stacks is dead now, but Barry seems to be still suffering from this rejection that happened over twenty years ago. Go figure.
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The university contributes a good deal of money to the local economy, even just from the administration, faculty, staff and students patronizing local businesses. Good name continues, people come, live there work there, the money continues to flow. On Thu, 3/13/14, emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 4:46 AM Hard to believe no charges are being brought, no deportations or visa revocations? It will be interesting to see how it all reconciles. Only in Fairfield. Maybe he didn't turn it on. Maybe the police department hasn't outfitted their cars with dash cams. This would never fly anywhere but perhaps in Amish country, where justice is meted out by the Church or Amish Mafia. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I bet you anything the sheriff had a video cam in his vehicle and is not releasing the tape On Thu, 3/13/14, doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 4:01 AM So, since we are *ALL* going on hearsay, isn't it possible that this was simply a game of Ultimate Frisbee, that got out of hand?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It also kind of pisses me off, that in this age of ubiquitous communication, THERE IS *NO* VIDEO OF THE RIOT! Gimme an F'n break, Iowa!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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On 3/12/2014 9:30 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/ Pandit campus leaders, who are affiliated with the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, downplayed the incident Wednesday. Does anyone have an accounting of how much money the TMO has spent over the years on the pundit program? Go figure.
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Om well, to anybody who is *new* to this looking in on Fairfield from the outside you should know also for relative perspective that the pundit thing is an outpost of all that is the TM meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa. Most Fairfield meditators don't have anything to do with it and there was never a lot of buy in to it for common Fairfield rank and file meditators. The pundit program is a pretty exclusive thing that is run by a few super-ru's. -Buck punditster writes: Does anyone have an accounting of how much money the TMO has spent over the years on the pundit program? Go figure. Authfriend writes: http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/ http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/ Pandit campus leaders, who are affiliated with the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, downplayed the incident Wednesday. Does anyone have an accounting of how much money the TMO has spent over the years on the pundit program? Go figure.
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On 3/12/2014 11:24 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I bet you anything the sheriff had a video cam in his vehicle and is not releasing the tape How much would you be willing to wager?
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On 3/12/2014 11:46 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Only in Fairfield. It's happening all over - maybe you're not familiar with Spring Break at institutions of higher learning. Just last night, two guys from South Korea attending classes at University of Houston, broke into Sea World at San Antonio and were caught playing with some of the animals and they apparently stole some ice cream out of a cooler. They were put in jail and are waiting to see the judge today. Go figure.
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For Lurkers looking in, for a perspective on how we live as the Fairfield, Iowa meditating community see the recent post/link to the organizational flow charts as to how we are as a living community here. The pundit thing is a small part of the Fairfield Iowa meditator experience. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/375646 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/375646 Om well, to anybody who is *new* to this looking in on Fairfield from the outside you should know also for relative perspective that the pundit thing is an outpost of all that is the TM meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa. Most Fairfield meditators don't have anything to do with it and there was never a lot of buy in to it for common Fairfield rank and file meditators. The pundit program is a pretty exclusive thing that is run by a few super-ru's. -Buck punditster writes: Does anyone have an accounting of how much money the TMO has spent over the years on the pundit program? Go figure. Authfriend writes: http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/ http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/ Pandit campus leaders, who are affiliated with the Maharishi University of Management in Fairfield, downplayed the incident Wednesday. Does anyone have an accounting of how much money the TMO has spent over the years on the pundit program? Go figure.
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The Fairfield Fight Club association has created a new form of MMA (Mixed Martial Arts). It will be called MMY for Mixed Martial Yagyas. Be afraid.
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On 3/13/2014 5:39 PM, ultrarishi wrote: It will be called MMY for Mixed Martial Yagyas. Be afraid. Addressing the important issues! There are probably tens of thousands of boy pundit students all over India and the world attending private schools just like the one at Vedic City, Iowa, and sometimes fighting in the playground during recess. Go figure.
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I think they probably want to get paid more money for their work as pundits.
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The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, r...@searchsummit.com wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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Never happen - Girish and Company make too much money of of it - that has been the point for the Movement all along - not world peace On Wed, 3/12/14, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 12, 2014, 9:34 PM The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, r...@searchsummit.com wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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Right, the pundit-project is long overdue and should be terminated which now hopefully will happen asap and as I predicted here years ago. What I'm wondering about is why the pundits protested in the first place. Were they ill treated ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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On 3/12/2014 3:38 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: I think they probably want to get paid more money for their work as pundits. Maybe I should go up there to get paid for chanting spells, I wonder how much they pay? Everyone knows that I can be very persistent at repeating phrases. Go figure. Buck: Would I get free room and board at the Raj, I wonder? What about my car parking - I would prefer a covered area nearby, if possible. Or, maybe I could rent a garage from somebody in Vedic City that lives near the pundit campus. Let me know - will travel.
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Well absolutely, our pundits had dang well better be meditating if we've devoted all this resource to facilitate this program. This is a scientifically calculated and extremely large and high-minded project. We are a meditating community and those guys were brought here to supplement our numbers in the Meissner-like effect of communal meditating Fairfield. Anybody that does not want to meditate on a sponsored program like created in that particular program should be sent the heck home directly without honors. Go through and figure it out. This program is not just a ticket to escape in to America. It is a program to help with meditation in America and mediating peace in the world. If there are some rotten apples in the barrel throw them the fuck out before the whole barrel is ruined. That goes for any corrosive administration and administrators of the project too both here and in India. The TM Movement Trustees should get to it and be open about its own resolution for a change. Quick. -Buck Rick Archer writes: The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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On 3/12/2014 4:34 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. That's what I'm saying! Or, why not just enroll all the pundit boys in courses at MUM; give them all scholarships; and offer them a work-study program? Admin could put them up at the Utopia Village. We know there are a lot of park-side trailers up there on campus, we saw them last night using Google Earth. That way, they could all graduate and get a good job when they get back to India. That's what I think.
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Maybe they were practicing Hinduism, God forbid! (Hey what happened to the dots?)
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Richard, If they can get a job here in the USA after graduation, why should they go back to India? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 3/12/2014 4:34 PM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. That's what I'm saying! Or, why not just enroll all the pundit boys in courses at MUM; give them all scholarships; and offer them a work-study program? Admin could put them up at the Utopia Village. We know there are a lot of park-side trailers up there on campus, we saw them last night using Google Earth. That way, they could all graduate and get a good job when they get back to India. That's what I think.
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Richard,
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They bagged the dots. But you have to click on Show message history, otherwise your post won't show what you're responding to. Maybe they were practicing Hinduism, God forbid! (Hey what happened to the dots?)
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And where might that be? thanks (again) in advance!
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In the Reply window. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And where might that be? thanks (again) in advance!
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In the Reply window. And where might that be? thanks (again) in advance!
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Got it, bless you! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : In the Reply window. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And where might that be? thanks (again) in advance!
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Attaboy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Got it, bless you! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : In the Reply window. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And where might that be? thanks (again) in advance!
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On 3/12/2014 6:42 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: If they can get a job here in the USA after graduation, why should they go back to India? Good point. All the pundit boys could graduate from MUM and get a good paying job in the USA.
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http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/ http://thegazette.com/2014/03/12/riot-of-indian-meditators-causes-concerns-for-fairfield-residents/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
The Fairfield Meditating Community: We are a group of people who have come together and created a community for a transcendentally important common purpose, which of course is to practice the Transcendental Meditation program and the TM-Sidhi program together as a group, for the sake of bringing coherence to national consciousness, based on balancing labor and leisure to meditate while working together for the benefit of the community. Well absolutely, our pundits had dang well better be meditating if we've devoted all this resource to facilitate this program. This is a scientifically calculated and extremely large and high-minded project. We are a meditating community and those guys were brought here to supplement our numbers in the Meissner-like effect of communal meditating Fairfield. Anybody that does not want to meditate on a sponsored program like created in that particular program should be sent the heck home directly without honors. Go through and figure it out. This program is not just a ticket to escape in to America. It is a program to help with meditation in America and mediating peace in the world. If there are some rotten apples in the barrel throw them the fuck out before the whole barrel is ruined. That goes for any corrosive administration and administrators of the project too both here and in India. The TM Movement Trustees should get to it and be open about its own resolution for a change. Quick. -Buck Rick Archer writes: The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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It also kind of pisses me off, that in this age of ubiquitous communication, THERE IS *NO* VIDEO OF THE RIOT! Gimme an F'n break, Iowa!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
So, since we are *ALL* going on hearsay, isn't it possible that this was simply a game of Ultimate Frisbee, that got out of hand?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It also kind of pisses me off, that in this age of ubiquitous communication, THERE IS *NO* VIDEO OF THE RIOT! Gimme an F'n break, Iowa!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It also kind of pisses me off, that in this age of ubiquitous communication, THERE IS *NO* VIDEO OF THE RIOT! Gimme an F'n break, Iowa!! I think that little snippet of the mingling pundits that MJ posted was the riot. Looked like a bridge party to me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
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I bet you anything the sheriff had a video cam in his vehicle and is not releasing the tape On Thu, 3/13/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 4:01 AM So, since we are *ALL* going on hearsay, isn't it possible that this was simply a game of Ultimate Frisbee, that got out of hand?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It also kind of pisses me off, that in this age of ubiquitous communication, THERE IS *NO* VIDEO OF THE RIOT! Gimme an F'n break, Iowa!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted
Hard to believe no charges are being brought, no deportations or visa revocations? It will be interesting to see how it all reconciles. Only in Fairfield. Maybe he didn't turn it on. Maybe the police department hasn't outfitted their cars with dash cams. This would never fly anywhere but perhaps in Amish country, where justice is meted out by the Church or Amish Mafia. Smile. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I bet you anything the sheriff had a video cam in his vehicle and is not releasing the tape On Thu, 3/13/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Pundits Rioted To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 13, 2014, 4:01 AM So, since we are *ALL* going on hearsay, isn't it possible that this was simply a game of Ultimate Frisbee, that got out of hand?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It also kind of pisses me off, that in this age of ubiquitous communication, THERE IS *NO* VIDEO OF THE RIOT! Gimme an F'n break, Iowa!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : One thing to consider, Alex, is unlike here in the USA, where, if one is upset, legal remedies are sought, in India, and many other countries (Mexico also comes to mind), the corruption is so endemic, people are far more likely to deal with their issues, directly, and messily, than even think to get law enforcement, or any other government agency involved. What looks like inappropriate behavior to us, is the status quo in their culture. I personally think someone in Vedic City fucked up royally, and they did not have brown skin. I think a couple of things. First, Iowa seems to be a place where very little happens in the way of uprisings because this very small event seems to have created a lot of interest, not only locally but here at FFL. Second, I don't blame the pundits for revolting. Good for them. It sounds as if they had a pretty good reason and the solidarity of purpose seems to have been contagious, or at least unanimous. Perhaps this is a wake up call of someone in a position of power; maybe it is indicative of some larger problem within the structure of how it is set up with the pundits there at MUM. I'm sort of one of those people who like a little disruption, a little shit disturbance. One thing I know: change and upheaval is usually a good thing - eventually. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : The powers that be need to figure out who participated in the riot and send all their sorry asses back to India. Their behavior was totally unacceptable, and they're lucky no one got shot or run over. If the pandit project continues to be source of bad PR for the community, then the whole thing should be shut down. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : The administration was trying to have Americans sit with them to make sure they meditated and the Indians would not let them in so the Admin wanted to send the ring leader back to India. So he organized for the group to do what they did when they came to take him to Chicago and that is why the Policeman was there in the first place.
