Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
In a message dated 1/20/07 1:09:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Turns out the story about park rangers not being allowed to tell visitors the age of the Grand Canyon was bogus. And the creationist book is in a section of the canyon bookstores labeled "Inspiration,o along with other cultural/mythical books about the canyon. The whole thing appears to have been a tempest in a teapot created by the environmental watchdog group PEER for publicity purposes. Disgraceful. And my profound apologies to MDixon for beating him up over this. He was right to be skeptical. No apology needed. Didn't feel beat up! We usually disagree and have different perspectives and I don't need to have the last word after stating my position.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
Turns out the story about park rangers not being allowed to tell visitors the age of the Grand Canyon was bogus. And the creationist book is in a section of the canyon bookstores labeled "Inspiration," along with other cultural/mythical books about the canyon. The whole thing appears to have been a tempest in a teapot created by the environmental watchdog group PEER for publicity purposes. Disgraceful. And my profound apologies to MDixon for beating him up over this. He was right to be skeptical. The story is at the Huffington Post: http://tinyurl.com/24lwj2 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/9/07 12:27:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The > objection is to selling it in a bookstore devoted > to science. > > > > Who owns and runs the bookstore? > The US gov as far as I know. The question arises: what peer-reviewed process supports the theories expoused in the book?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/9/07 12:27:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > The > objection is to selling it in a bookstore devoted > to science. > > Who owns and runs the bookstore? >From the NPS Grand Canyon Web site: "The bookstores throughout Grand Canyon National Park, are operated by the Grand Canyon Association. GCA is a private, non-profit organization founded in 1932 to support the educational goals of the National Park Service at Grand Canyon. "The association provides financial support to Grand Canyon National Park, publishes canyon related books and free park publications, funds research and naturalist programs, and helps support the park's research library and exhibits." http://www.nps.gov/grca/supportyourpark/bookstore.htm I was wrong; the canyon bookstores (there are several) are not "devoted to science" per se. They have various types of books on the canyon, guidebooks, calendars, artwork, and so on, typical museum-type bookstore products. But they're definitely not "souvenir shops," and they do have a significant number of scientifically oriented books on geology, ecology, wildlife, and so on. Check out the bookstore catalog: http://tinyurl.com/y59h7d This is from the 2005 "Director's Order: Interpretation and Education" for the Park Service overall. It was released two years *after* the controversy began over the creationist book: 8.4.2 Historical and Scientific Research. Superintendents, historians, scientists, and interpretive staff are responsible for ensuring that park interpretive and educational programs and media are accurate and reflect current scholarship. To accomplish this, an on-going dialogue must be established. Questions often arise round the presentation of geological, biological, and evolutionary processes. The interpretive and educational treatment used to explain the natural processes and history of the Earth must be based on the best scientific evidence available, as found in scholarly sources that have stood the test of scientific peer review and criticism. The facts, theories, and interpretations to be used will reflect the thinking of the scientific community in such fields as biology, geology, physics, astronomy, chemistry, and paleontology. Interpretive and educational programs must refrain from appearing to endorse religious beliefs explaining natural processes. Programs, however, may acknowledge or explain other explanations of natural processes and events. http://www.nps.gov/policy/DOrders/DOrder6.html This sounds very fair to me. As to the book, I wouldn't have a problem with it being sold in the bookstores if it were in a section clearly labeled "Religion" or "Culture" or something similar. But it *must* not be grouped with scientific books. And the Rangers *must* be allowed to answer questions honestly about the canyon's age.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
In a message dated 1/9/07 12:27:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The objection is to selling it in a bookstore devoted to science. Who owns and runs the bookstore?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/9/07 8:20:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Yet you want to control the flow of information so they are > silenced. You > > are worse than they are. > > Not silenced, just moved to their proper place, religious book > shops are the place for this sort of thing not educational > establishments. > > Yes , that's what they did in the Soviet Union. Moved it to it's > *proper* place, basements, living rooms in private home etc. Are Christian bookstores restricted to basements and living rooms in private homes? I never knew that. I thought they were right out in the street like any other bookstore. > Out of sight, out of mind. > Every view has a right to express it's self and do so in public. Except the National Park Service, it appears, where rangers are no longer permitted to honestly answer questions about the age of the canyon. You apparently never bothered to read the article. There's much more to this than whether the book can be sold in the bookstore at the canyon. Have a look and get back to us, OK? http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > And the place you are referring to, if I'm not mistaken, is > a souvenir shop in the Grand Canyon, not an educational > institution. You're mistaken. From the article: Park officials have defended the decision to approve the sale of Grand Canyon: A Different View, claiming that park bookstores are like libraries, where the broadest range of views are displayed. In fact, however, both law and park policies make it clear that the park bookstores are more like schoolrooms rather than libraries. As such, materials are only to reflect the highest quality science and are supposed to closely support approved interpretive themes. Moreover, unlike a library the approval process is very selective. Records released to PEER show that during 2003, Grand Canyon officials rejected 22 books and other products for bookstore placement while approving only one new sale item the creationist book. > This is just an attempt by secularists to drive the predominate > religion underground Utter self-serving bullcrap. What percentage of U.S. citizens believe the world was created 6,000 years ago? > after which they will do the same to all the other religions and > belief systems that don't fit theirs. This is about not pretending religion is science, not about "driving religion underground." Nobody's suppressing the book; it's available in Christian and other bookstores and even on Amazon. The objection is to selling it in a bookstore devoted to science.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
In a message dated 1/9/07 8:20:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Yet you want to control the flow of information so they are silenced. You > are worse than they are. Not silenced, just moved to their proper place, religious book shops are the place for this sort of thing not educational establishments. Yes , that's what they did in the Soviet Union. Moved it to it's *proper* place, basements, living rooms in private home etc. Out of sight, out of mind. Every view has a right to express it's self and do so in public. The congress shall make no laws establishing a religion NOR shall they prohibit the free exercise there of. Each side of an argument has the right to present their side in a public forum. The problem with this PEER group is they don't want any other sides presented, just theirs, that's a form of censorship. What are they afraid of?. And the place you are referring to, if I'm not mistaken, is a souvenir shop in the Grand Canyon, not an educational institution. This is just an attempt by secularists to drive the predominate religion under ground after which they will do the same to all the other religions and belief systems that don't fit theirs. Geee, just IMAGINE no religion, it's easy if you try.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/7/07 1:27:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > It's typical religious cognitive dissonance. They are terrified of any > threat to their view of the world so they try and control the flow of > information. I think these people should be stopped because they are > putting a brake on progress. > > We are supposed to be truth seekers aren't we? > > > > Yet you want to control the flow of information so they are silenced. You > are worse than they are. Not silenced, just moved to their proper place, religious book shops are the place for this sort of thing not educational establishments. What's the point of a visitors centre where you can't find out what people actually KNOW about something and instead get fobbed off with a load of ancient whimsy. They'll be teaching it in schools next!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
In a message dated 1/7/07 1:27:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's typical religious cognitive dissonance. They are terrified of any threat to their view of the world so they try and control the flow of information. I think these people should be stopped because they are putting a brake on progress. We are supposed to be truth seekers aren't we? Yet you want to control the flow of information so they are silenced. You are worse than they are.
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-Excellent point!Kevin > > > > Hijacked? According to the home page this forum is for discussing > pretty much any topic. > > But I happen to think the link I posted here should be interesting to > anyone of a spiritual nature because it demonstrates how desperate > people can be to protect beliefs that don't stand up to even the > mildest scrutiny. > > It's typical religious cognitive dissonance. They are terrified of any > threat to their view of the world so they try and control the flow of > information. I think these people should be stopped because they are > putting a brake on progress. > > We are supposed to be truth seekers aren't we? >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > I always liked the way scientists name stars etc. after > > the ancient myths, I didn't know about the GC though. > > Would love to see it someday, Ihear it,s over a mile > > to the bottom, I could take my mountain bike and have > > a scream! > > The Grand Canyon is pretty much on the "Don't Miss!" > list for planet Earth. It is beyond description. > That said, I'll try to describe it a little. :-) > > The first thing that gets you is the scale. You park > your car and walk out to the Rim, and there it is -- > infinity, all spread out in front of you, for your > amusement and edification. It's Art, in every sense > of the word, with time being the artist. > > When you go, do your share of hiking and biking on > the more-populated and more-popular South Rim, but > if you really want to feel the nature of the place > of power that Grand Canyon is, spend even more time > on the North Rim. It's hard to get to. It would take > you hours of driving to get there from South Rim. > But boy! is it worth it. > > Yes, it's a mile deep. If you're considering doing > any strenous hiking or biking, do read the guide- > lines provided by the Park Service. Especially > regarding water and carrying enough of it. Dozens > of people die there every year of dehydration, > many of them seasoned hikers from other countries > who are used to hiking long distances, but who > did not realize how much water they'd need in > a desert climate. > > Do go, when you have the chance. If you're > interested in the "power place" nature of the > canyon, consider renting a car and making it a > kind of driving pilgrimage to other power > places in the neighborhood ( the neighborhood > being several hundred miles wide, that is :-). > > One could, say, fly into Phoenix and rent a car > and drive up to South Rim. Then you could go up > to North Rim and from there swing through Bryce > Canyon and Zion, and/or head East and check out > Canyon de Chelly and Monument Valley. If you're > really adventurous and want to explore a place > of power a little more ragged and gnarly, you > can go up to Chaco Canyon. > > Look these places up on the Net. Gaze at photos > of them. If they resonate with something inside > you, and you find yourself drawn to them, IMO > you might well benefit spiritually from visiting > them. > Thanks for the inspirational writing. I'm sure I will benefit spiritually, meditating in dramatic landscapes far from the madding crowd always does it for me. I'm planning a US tour this year I shall pay the GC a visit and also the huge meteor crater in Arizona, that's always drawn me too. I lived in Israel just before learning to meditate and used to go hiking in the desert a lot, especially at night. Man it's so quiet even your breathing seems too loud. It's a mind expanding place and I always said I would return and meditate in a cave for a few months but never got around to it, maybe a US desert will have the same effect on the soul.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > richard hughes wrote: > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > > > What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by > athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion. > But, what's really funny to me is that this is a discussion, > supposedly, of the Maharishi's program to spiritually regenerate the > entire world. I can only assume that what we've got here is a small > cadre of informants who don't agree with the Maharishi's teachings on > the Science of Creative Intelligence, not to mention certain > individuals who debate Patanjali and the Yoga of the Ishvara. Go figure. > Hijacked? According to the home page this forum is for discussing pretty much any topic. But I happen to think the link I posted here should be interesting to anyone of a spiritual nature because it demonstrates how desperate people can be to protect beliefs that don't stand up to even the mildest scrutiny. It's typical religious cognitive dissonance. They are terrified of any threat to their view of the world so they try and control the flow of information. I think these people should be stopped because they are putting a brake on progress. We are supposed to be truth seekers aren't we?
[FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "nablusos108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" > wrote: > > > > richard hughes wrote: > > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > > > > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > > > > > What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by > > athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion. > > But, what's really funny to me is that this is a discussion, > > supposedly, of the Maharishi's program to spiritually regenerate the > > entire world. I can only assume that what we've got here is a small > > cadre of informants who don't agree with the Maharishi's teachings on > > the Science of Creative Intelligence, not to mention certain > > individuals who debate Patanjali and the Yoga of the Ishvara. Go > figure. > > Well said Richard. Unfortunately it seems this forum has been hijacked > by professional anti-TM'ers, fanatic buddhists, ateists and post Jimmy > Carter supporters. > More the merrier! Wouldn't it be dull if everyone just agreed with everyone else?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
Atheists and Jimmy Carter supporters! My God, what have I done? _ From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusos108 Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:29 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up. --- In FairfieldLife@ <mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > richard hughes wrote: > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > > > http://www.peer. <http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801> org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > > > What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by > athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion. > But, what's really funny to me is that this is a discussion, > supposedly, of the Maharishi's program to spiritually regenerate the > entire world. I can only assume that what we've got here is a small > cadre of informants who don't agree with the Maharishi's teachings on > the Science of Creative Intelligence, not to mention certain > individuals who debate Patanjali and the Yoga of the Ishvara. Go figure. Well said Richard. Unfortunately it seems this forum has been hijacked by professional anti-TM'ers, fanatic buddhists, ateists and post Jimmy Carter supporters.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > richard hughes wrote: > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > > > What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by > athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion. > But, what's really funny to me is that this is a discussion, > supposedly, of the Maharishi's program to spiritually regenerate the > entire world. I can only assume that what we've got here is a small > cadre of informants who don't agree with the Maharishi's teachings on > the Science of Creative Intelligence, not to mention certain > individuals who debate Patanjali and the Yoga of the Ishvara. Go figure. Well said Richard. Unfortunately it seems this forum has been hijacked by professional anti-TM'ers, fanatic buddhists, ateists and post Jimmy Carter supporters.
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MDixon wrote: > Odd isn't it. The same people that will get all excited about > pundits coming to Fairfield to generate the ME through yagyas, > advise people on the benefits of mercury supplements, and avoid > going outside during an eclipse, laughing at somebody else's > beliefs that geological formations were caused by a sudden, > massive catastrophic event. > Apparently most of the informers here don't agree with the Maharishi's teaching on creative science. They don't seem to agree with the Maharishi's theory of government either, not to mention school administration or political science. Go figure.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Odd isn't it. The same people that will get all excited about pundits coming > to Fairfield to generate the ME through yagyas, advise people on the > benefits of mercury supplements, and avoid going outside during an eclipse, laughing > at somebody else's beliefs that geological formations were caused by a > sudden, massive catastrophic event. > None of those other beliefs challenge the supposed separation of church and state we have here in the US. (Though the idea that someone would avoid going outside during an eclipse sounds just plain backward to me personally).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
In a message dated 1/6/07 10:12:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: richard hughes wrote: > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > _http://www.peer.http://wwhttp://www.phttp://www_ (http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801) > What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion. But, what's really funny to me is that this is a discussion, supposedly, of the Maharishi's program to spiritually regenerate the entire world. I can only assume that what we've got here is a small cadre of informants who don't agree with the Maharishi's teachings on the Science of Creative Intelligence, not to mention certain individuals who debate Patanjali and the Yoga of the Ishvara. Go figure. Odd isn't it. The same people that will get all excited about pundits coming to Fairfield to generate the ME through yagyas, advise people on the benefits of mercury supplements, and avoid going outside during an eclipse, laughing at somebody else's beliefs that geological formations were caused by a sudden, massive catastrophic event.
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richard hughes wrote: > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > What's not so funny is that this forum seems to have been hijacked by athiests, who think it's funny to make fun of other people's religion. But, what's really funny to me is that this is a discussion, supposedly, of the Maharishi's program to spiritually regenerate the entire world. I can only assume that what we've got here is a small cadre of informants who don't agree with the Maharishi's teachings on the Science of Creative Intelligence, not to mention certain individuals who debate Patanjali and the Yoga of the Ishvara. Go figure.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > I always liked the way scientists name stars etc. after > > the ancient myths, I didn't know about the GC though. > > Would love to see it someday, Ihear it,s over a mile > > to the bottom, I could take my mountain bike and have > > a scream! > > The Grand Canyon is pretty much on the "Don't Miss!" > list for planet Earth. It is beyond description. > That said, I'll try to describe it a little. :-) > > The first thing that gets you is the scale. You park > your car and walk out to the Rim, and there it is -- > infinity, all spread out in front of you, for your > amusement and edification. I would recommend to anybody the way I first saw the Grand Canyon. It wasn't planned; two friends and I were driving cross-country on a tight schedule and could fit in a stop at the canyon only by driving all night. We arrived while it was still pitch-dark and went to sit near the edge waiting for the sun to come up. There was no moon, so we couldn't see much of anything, but there was a strange sense of this gaping void stretching out in front of us. Then as it began to get light, the real extent of that extraordinary void very gradually materialized out of the darkness. Absolutely stunning.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Yes, it's a mile deep. If you're considering doing > > any strenous hiking or biking, do read the guide- > > lines provided by the Park Service. Especially > > regarding water and carrying enough of it. Dozens > > of people die there every year of dehydration, > > many of them seasoned hikers from other countries > > who are used to hiking long distances, but who > > did not realize how much water they'd need in > > a desert climate. > > I would think going in a group would be the way to do this, > safety in numbers and all that. Yup. > Nice description. Thanks. As it turns out, the description was the result of a minor spiritual experience I had today, having been reminded of Grand Canyon. When I needed to remember some of the mythic names of the place I couldn't find my map of the canyon, so I went back to a story I wrote a few years ago, sitting there on a ledge with my laptop. I found the names of the strata, but then went back reread the story. And interestingly enough, something of the power and silence of the place and the state of attention I wore when I was last there still "came through" when I reread it, leaving me in a remarkably peaceful and high place. Go figure. Neat exper- ience...and unexpected. Anyway, if you're interested, the story is online at: http://ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm55.html It probably requires some "back story" before reading it, though. Sunsetdance is narrated by someone we met in an earlier story called Stardance. The narrator had some wonderful spiritual experiences in that first story (http://ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/rtm04.html), but it ended with him beating feet into the Bardo. He got squished. I always felt bad about that, so I reincarn- ated him for the last story in the book. He's a real wiseass; I really liked him.
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On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:23 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > Yes, it's a mile deep. If you're considering doing > any strenous hiking or biking, do read the guide- > lines provided by the Park Service. Especially > regarding water and carrying enough of it. Dozens > of people die there every year of dehydration, > many of them seasoned hikers from other countries > who are used to hiking long distances, but who > did not realize how much water they'd need in > a desert climate. I would think going in a group would be the way to do this, safety in numbers and all that. Nice description. Sal
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I always liked the way scientists name stars etc. after > the ancient myths, I didn't know about the GC though. > Would love to see it someday, Ihear it,s over a mile > to the bottom, I could take my mountain bike and have > a scream! The Grand Canyon is pretty much on the "Don't Miss!" list for planet Earth. It is beyond description. That said, I'll try to describe it a little. :-) The first thing that gets you is the scale. You park your car and walk out to the Rim, and there it is -- infinity, all spread out in front of you, for your amusement and edification. It's Art, in every sense of the word, with time being the artist. When you go, do your share of hiking and biking on the more-populated and more-popular South Rim, but if you really want to feel the nature of the place of power that Grand Canyon is, spend even more time on the North Rim. It's hard to get to. It would take you hours of driving to get there from South Rim. But boy! is it worth it. Yes, it's a mile deep. If you're considering doing any strenous hiking or biking, do read the guide- lines provided by the Park Service. Especially regarding water and carrying enough of it. Dozens of people die there every year of dehydration, many of them seasoned hikers from other countries who are used to hiking long distances, but who did not realize how much water they'd need in a desert climate. Do go, when you have the chance. If you're interested in the "power place" nature of the canyon, consider renting a car and making it a kind of driving pilgrimage to other power places in the neighborhood ( the neighborhood being several hundred miles wide, that is :-). One could, say, fly into Phoenix and rent a car and drive up to South Rim. Then you could go up to North Rim and from there swing through Bryce Canyon and Zion, and/or head East and check out Canyon de Chelly and Monument Valley. If you're really adventurous and want to explore a place of power a little more ragged and gnarly, you can go up to Chaco Canyon. Look these places up on the Net. Gaze at photos of them. If they resonate with something inside you, and you find yourself drawn to them, IMO you might well benefit spiritually from visiting them. > On a similar note the IMAX cinema at Londons science > museum refused to show a film about evolution because > sponsors (fundy christians) objected. The things humans do in the name of religion. Really. I live in an area that was embroiled in similar religious conflicts for centuries. First there was the Catholic-heretic period, and then the Catholic-Protestant period. Both left their scars on the mindscape.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, I don't like the universal gravitational > constant so I think I'll suspend my belief in that > too. I mean, hell, its only a theory, right? > > Luckily, gravity doesn't require us to believe in it to keep working. - hugheshugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" > wrote: > > > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 > > Yup. My friends who are rangers there told me > about this. Pretty fascinating, isn't it? > > It's even a little relevant to FFL because of > the naming scheme that was used to define the > different geological stata that make up the > canyon. They are named for different gods and > goddesses and figures from Earth's mythologies. > The later stata and formations, geologically, > are named from Western myths. So you've got > things named after Jupiter and Venus and Apollo > and Thor, and a couple of others called Isis > Temple and Cheops Pyramid. Then, for some of > the older stata they decided to get Biblical, > so you get names like Solomon's Temple and > Sheba's Temple. > > But for the oldest strata they went to Eastern > myths. So you get Brahma's Temple and Krishna's > Shrine and Buddha's Cloister and Rama's Shrine. > > Give the fundamentalists enough time and all of > these strata and formations will have been > renamed after Noah and his kids. :-) > I always liked the way scientists name stars etc. after the ancient myths, I didn't know about the GC though. Would love to see it someday, Ihear it,s over a mile to the bottom, I could take my mountain bike and have a scream! On a similar note the IMAX cinema at Londons science museum refused to show a film about evolution because sponsors (fundy christians) objected. We've got to stop these people before they drag us back to the stone- age.
[FairfieldLife] Re: You couldn't make it up.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This would be funny if it wasn't so scary > > http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801 Yup. My friends who are rangers there told me about this. Pretty fascinating, isn't it? It's even a little relevant to FFL because of the naming scheme that was used to define the different geological stata that make up the canyon. They are named for different gods and goddesses and figures from Earth's mythologies. The later stata and formations, geologically, are named from Western myths. So you've got things named after Jupiter and Venus and Apollo and Thor, and a couple of others called Isis Temple and Cheops Pyramid. Then, for some of the older stata they decided to get Biblical, so you get names like Solomon's Temple and Sheba's Temple. But for the oldest strata they went to Eastern myths. So you get Brahma's Temple and Krishna's Shrine and Buddha's Cloister and Rama's Shrine. Give the fundamentalists enough time and all of these strata and formations will have been renamed after Noah and his kids. :-)
