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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: From President Hagelin – Please join me at the very important CAFO meeting Thursday night

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 



 What does CAFO mean?  This should have been defined by Hagelin to clarify what 
we're fighting against.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Forwarded from: Maharishi University of Management 
 Subject: From President Hagelin – Please join me at the very important CAFO 
meeting Thursday night

 HTML Message 
 Dear students, faculty, staff, and community members,
 
 Please join me for a very important meeting on Thursday, October 19, to 
address an issue that affects us all and determines, to a great extent, the 
quality of life and future of our community.
 
 The incursion of unwanted CAFOs in Jefferson County has been an ongoing 
concern, and over the past year in my role as president of Maharishi University 
of Management, stemming the growth of CAFOs has become one of my most pressing 
priorities.
 
 All that we have achieved through our Consciousness-Based Education programs, 
and all that our business community has accomplished to support the local 
economy, could be in jeopardy because of CAFOs, which are spreading like 
wildfire across the state.
 
 Thankfully, through the tireless work of Jefferson County Farmers and 
Neighbors (JFAN), the growth of noxious CAFOs in our community has been held to 
a minimum—in dramatic contrast to our neighbors. At this critical moment, we 
need JFAN more than ever—to ensure the environmental integrity of our community 
and to prevent the unrestrained proliferation of CAFOs in Jefferson County!
 
 This year's JFAN Annual Meeting, “Breaking the Grip of Corporate Agriculture 
on Rural Iowa,” features agricultural insider Alan Guebert, the award-winning 
columnist of the popular Farm and Food File, syndicated weekly to 70 U.S. and 
Canadian newspapers.  “I really do believe there is a way out of this mess,” 
says Guebert, who will share his vision of how that can be accomplished. 
Guebert contends that there is a role for everyone in driving change, and he 
will outline ways our community can step up its game.
 
 Johnson Country Supervisor Mark Carberry, will join Guebert to discuss what 
Johnson County is doing to address the CAFO situation in his county and what we 
all need to do to force changes that protect people and the environment. Dr. 
John Ikerd, Professor Emeritus at the University of Missouri at Columbia and a 
member of the JFAN Board of Directors, will provide an overview of industrial 
farming and its stranglehold on the Iowa legislature.
 
 David Sykes, JFAN legal counsel, will give a legal update on the Iowa Supreme 
Court challenge to the last vestige of the Iowa Right to Farm Law, how to 
analyze and challenge the new Nuisance Law passed this year, and how we could 
beat infringing CAFOs in courts of law and in the court of public opinion! 
We'll also find out about a new case filed in Jefferson County regarding a CAFO 
south of Maharishi Vedic City.
 
 Once again JFAN has a splendid Annual Meeting planned for us! I encourage you 
to attend not only because of the breadth of information that will be shared, 
but I urge you to join me at this must-attend event because a packed house at 
the Sondheim is essential for driving a strong message to the pork industry 
that CAFOs are not welcome in Jefferson County. This is a simple, enjoyable, 
yet essential way that you can help protect our precious meditating community.
 
 Please mark on your calendar — Thursday, October 19 at 7:15 pm at the 
Fairfield Arts & Convention Center, 200 N. Main Street, Fairfield, IA. The 
meeting is open to the public and free of charge.
 
 I look forward to seeing you there!
 
 John Hagelin, President
 Maharishi University of Management
 
 P.S. We cannot afford to diminish our support for JFAN, which is pushing hard 
for a statewide CAFO moratorium in addition to efforts to keep CAFOs out of 
Jefferson County. These issues affect each and every one of us today, and 
future generations that will inherit Consciousness-Based Education.
 
 
 This message was sent to dickmays@... mailto:dickmays@... from Maharishi 
University of Management, 1000 North 4th Street, Fairfield, IA 52557 United 
States.
 To unsubscribe, reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A candidate's announcement that he or she practiced TM, specifically, would 
tend to be a negative to the religious right and evangelicals generally. That's 
a very significant voting bloc in this country. 

 The science-oriented among the millennials would likely be skeptical of a 
meditation practice associated with woo-woo like Yogic Flying or claiming 
widespread positive results from meditating in a group.
 

 BTW, if I were you, I wouldn't paint large groups of religious people as 
"rabid." Really doesn't look good coming from you.

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 
 On the way to the White House the identification of voter blocs becomes key to 
the work. In which blocs now would a candidate admitting to meditating be a 
negative? A positive?  
 

Yesterday in Fairfield, Iowa at a small shop we had a grocery bag stuffed with 
a X-ian flier insert that was all about TM being religion, cult and dangerous.  
Mindfulness practice maybe gets a pass and is not? 

 Voter bloc, how much could confrontational conservative X-ians as a particular 
vote bloc matter anymore to a candidate now admitting they meditate for their 
own well-being? 
 

 A 'meditating' candidate might be a plus to millennials. Can millennials and 
Gen-X and Y outweigh the shrinking rabid religious X-ian bloc in America? Would 
it be safe for any of the candidates to let it be known they meditate? Even 
'hip'? ..Maybe in the next election cycle. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a 
Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign?  Yet, recommending 
‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best 
practices' of the AMA.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes 
enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? 
 And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I'd be surprised if you weren't well aware, Doug, that mindfulness is widely 
seen and advertised as secular rather than Buddhist, a psychological rather 
than a religious practice, so your question is puzzling. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a 
Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign?  Yet, recommending 
‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best 
practices' of the AMA.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes 
enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? 
 And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

On the way to the White House the identification of voter blocs becomes key to 
the work. In which blocs now would a candidate admitting to meditating be a 
negative? A positive?  
 

Yesterday in Fairfield, Iowa at a small shop we had a grocery bag stuffed with 
a X-ian flier insert that was all about TM being religion, cult and dangerous.  
Mindfulness practice maybe gets a pass and is not? 

 Voter bloc, how much could confrontational conservative X-ians as a particular 
vote bloc matter anymore to a candidate now admitting they meditate for their 
own well-being? 
 

 A 'meditating' candidate might be a plus to millennials. Can millennials and 
Gen-X and Y outweigh the shrinking rabid religious X-ian bloc in America? Would 
it be safe for any of the candidates to let it be known they meditate? Even 
'hip'? ..Maybe in the next election cycle. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a 
Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign?  Yet, recommending 
‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best 
practices' of the AMA.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes 
enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? 
 And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That is an interesting distinction, what, that mindfulness being out of a 
Buddhism teaching is possibly seen (by who?) as more benign?  Yet, recommending 
‘meditation’ to patients as preventive medical practice is now a part of 'best 
practices' of the AMA.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfri...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes 
enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? 
 And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Most voters would probably be OK with a mindfulness practice, but not with TM. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes 
enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? 
 And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  Might have helped make him a better salesman.  
Hillary sucks as a salesman.
 

 Maybe because she is a saleswoman. 
 
 On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
 
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :

 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
 

 Good one. I've thought of that also.  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 



 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).


  
  
  














 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In the postmodern now would it really be a liability towards getting votes 
enough to the presidency for a candidate to admit they had learned to meditate? 
 And even, that they do regularly stop to meditate?
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :

 Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Generally about a 1 in 300 chance or a little better that any of these 
baby-boom age candidates learned to meditate, given the population in the US in 
the late 60’s and 1970’s. As you say, Depending on his attitude in the 1970s. 
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Actually, people are avoiding trump properties and merchandise like the plague 
now. During the recent IMF Conference in DC, his was the only high-end hotel in 
town with discounted rooms. Some salesman. Mark Cuban says *Bernie Madoff* has 
a better brand than trump does. Expect to see his suits, ties, and caps at The 
Dollar Store, soon. 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  It was 
the "in" thing to do back then.  Might have helped make him a better salesman.  
Hillary sucks as a salesman.
 
 On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:
 
   I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<rick@...> mailto:rick@... wrote :
 
 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 
 
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
  
  
  














 







 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Depending on his attitude in the 1970s Trump may have learned TM too.  
It was the "in" thing to do back then.  Might have helped make him a 
better salesman.  Hillary sucks as a salesman.


On 10/18/2016 11:03 AM, feste37 wrote:


I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family 
members. It never did on mine.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :

Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s 
supposed to have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously 
hasn’t. Or perhaps if they hadn’t been meditators, he would /actually/ 
have been shooting people on 5^th Avenue.


*From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]

*Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

LOL



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote :


If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <authfriend@... 
<mailto:authfriend@...>> wrote :


*I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking 
for reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but 
I'm not sure how else to interpret this post.*


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <awoelflebater@... 
<mailto:awoelflebater@...>> wrote :



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <dhamiltony2k5@... 
<mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...>> wrote :


Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today

telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’

is a meditator.

Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with

Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough

to vote for her husband?

Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?

Otherwise, what does the science say,

about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?

What should Common sense say?



Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania 
were a meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that 
is her husband. It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have 
been married so it ain't gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load 
of hogwash (appealing to the farmer in you).

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[feste37]

I don't think the practice of TM has any effect on other family members. It 
never did on mine. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <rick@...> wrote :

 Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president


  
  
 LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@...> wrote :
 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post.
  

  

  

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...> wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
 What should Common sense say?

 



 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).


  
  
  














 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

['Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]]

Trump’s kids are meditators, too. At least some of them. If that’s supposed to 
have had a positive influence on Trump, it obviously hasn’t. Or perhaps if they 
hadn’t been meditators, he would actually have been shooting people on 5th 
Avenue.

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 11:04 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

 

  

LOL



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , 
<no_re...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > wrote :

If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , 
<authfriend@... <mailto:authfriend@...> > wrote :

I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons 
to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else 
to interpret this post.

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , 
<awoelflebater@... <mailto:awoelflebater@...> > wrote :


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , 
<dhamiltony2k5@... <mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> > wrote :

Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 

telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 

is a meditator. 

Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with

Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough

to vote for her husband?

Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?

Otherwise, what does the science say,

about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?

What should Common sense say?





Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).



 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

LOL
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. 
 

 I love that. Hilarious, Feste.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[feste37]

If Trump were married to the Virgin Mary I still wouldn't vote for him. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for 
reasons to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure 
how else to interpret this post. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Seems like a natural enough POV in a town with MUM and so many doing TM, but 
everyone begins TM from their own place. The other thing is, given Trump's 
expressed behavior, Melania seems very much the enabler. 
Despite her rote denial, "...that's not the man I know...", she certainly seems 
much less than shocked with these dozen women coming forward, not even 
addressing it, and focused more on the lame justification of, "boys will be 
boys, and he was egged on by Billy, and he didn't know his mic was on...".

I doubt anything can get through to trump anyway, and she is certainly not an 
'agent of change' for him. Quite the opposite, it appears. She has everything 
to gain, and nothing to lose, by encouraging his dictatorial fantasies and 
coarse behavior. The other option is he crashes and burns (likely) and starts a 
cable channel. Not quite as glamorous...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I have the very uncomfortable feeling that Doug is actually looking for reasons 
to promote voting for Trump on FFL. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not sure how else 
to interpret this post. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[srijau]

yes well Mellania is doing TM but so is Bill Clinton , in fact if you read the 
emails it sounds like that whole class of people may be initiated but that 
doesn't say how regular they are or what there perspective on it or committment 
is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 

 Common sense says it is idiotic to even think that even if Melania were a 
meditator it would have one iota of effect on the asshat that is her husband. 
It hasn't helped anything in the 11 years they have been married so it ain't 
gonna to anything worthwhile now. What a load of hogwash (appealing to the 
farmer in you).
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

According to you, Doug, one of the most devoted, committed long-term TMers in 
the world, Bevan Morris, was ousted from his position as president of MUM 
because he was so inept at managing the university. 

 We also know that several long-term TMers who post regularly to this group 
have a penchant for coughing up false and malicious tales they've 
swallowed--without a hint of critical thinking--from right-wingers desperate to 
destroy Hillary Clinton.
 

 Why on *earth* should we think Melania's meditation practice (if indeed she 
has one--we don't know that for a fact) would have enough of a beneficial 
effect on her husband to make it reasonable to ignore the hundreds of reasons 
he's utterly unfit for the presidency?
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: to be president

[feste37]

Vote for Trump because Melania is (perhaps) a meditator? NO, NO, and NO again!  

You ask what common sense says. Here it is: Look at the candidates and what 
they stand for and how they conduct themselves, not at what their spouses 
supposedly do. Trump would be unfit for office even if Melania meditated 24/7. 
He is beyond hope or redemption -- a dreadful character who has already done 
much harm and may do even more before he is finished.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Om, someone emerged stopping me in a Fairfield, Iowa cafe today 
 telling me in a reassuring way that ‘Malania’ 
 is a meditator. 
 Could the meditator consciousness Meissner Effect be strong enough with
 Malania only a heartbeat away from her President be reason enough
 to vote for her husband?
 Should this ‘fact’ influence the meditator demographic voting bloc?
 Otherwise, what does the science say,
 about disordered narcissism and the effect of meditation?
What should Common sense say?
 
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The next President of the United States . . .

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hillary's trustworthiness has taken a real dive over the past few months and 
it's not just Benghazi. There 's the e-mail server and Clinton Foundation 
issues as well. If she can't pull out of these problems soon, I don't think 
she'll come close to getting the nomination.
   From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:51 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The next President of the United States . . .
   
    Caitlin is not a woman since he still has the male member, although his 
facial appearance has changed due to hormone treatments.  IMO she should be 
classified as transgender.  Nonetheless, I don't believe the country is ready 
for a transgender as president, although a woman president is a near 
possibility.
Due to the weakness of her jyotish chart, I don't think Hillary Clinton can win 
the presidency as seen from the political problems surrounding her involvement 
with the Benghazi affair.  And the Republicans will aggressively keep the 
negative spin on her, knowing that she is the strongest candidate the Democrats 
have for the next election.
But are the Republicans ready to name a woman as their presidential nominee for 
the next general election?





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

. . . could be a woman. A first.
No, I'm not talking about Hillary (anyway, she's already had two terms as 
President telling Bill what policies to adopt). 
It's time for a Republican in the White House. Caitlyn Bruce Jenner will add 
some much-needed glamour to politics. And what fun we could have! Imagine 
Caitlyn on a state visit to Saudi Arabia or squaring off to Vladimir Putin . . .



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[FairfieldLife] Re: The next President of the United States . . .

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Caitlin is not a woman since he still has the male member, although his facial 
appearance has changed due to hormone treatments.  IMO she should be classified 
as transgender.  Nonetheless, I don't believe the country is ready for a 
transgender as president, although a woman president is a near possibility. 

 Due to the weakness of her jyotish chart, I don't think Hillary Clinton can 
win the presidency as seen from the political problems surrounding her 
involvement with the Benghazi affair.  And the Republicans will aggressively 
keep the negative spin on her, knowing that she is the strongest candidate the 
Democrats have for the next election.
 

 But are the Republicans ready to name a woman as their presidential nominee 
for the next general election?
 

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 . . . could be a woman. A first.
 

 No, I'm not talking about Hillary (anyway, she's already had two terms as 
President telling Bill what policies to adopt). 
 

 It's time for a Republican in the White House. Caitlyn Bruce Jenner will add 
some much-needed glamour to politics. And what fun we could have! Imagine 
Caitlyn on a state visit to Saudi Arabia or squaring off to Vladimir Putin . . .
 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The next president of the US has just thrown his hat into the ring

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@...
wrote:

 The right-wing christian conservatives are on the move


No doubt about it:


This Week in God
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_08/this_week_in_\
god_14031510.php
By Steve Benen

  First up from the God Machine this week is a look at the  religious
associations of Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), whose burgeoning 
presidential campaign makes his extremist  allies
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fact-sheet-gov-rick-perry%E2%80%9\
9s-extremist-allies  that much more significant well outside the Lone
Star State.
Right Wing Watch ran  a report
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/perry-prayer-politics-and-preside\
ncy  this week on the religious leaders Perry chooses to pal  around
with, as evidenced by last week's Christian prayer rally —
called  The Response — and its radical co-sponsors like
the American Family  Association and Family Research Council.
A major chunk of [last week's event] was given over to  Mike Bickle,
who runs the International House of Prayer (IHOP) movement,  which
recruits young people into radical devotion to prayer and 
fasting.


Yes, he's the guy who said  
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/rick-perry-partners-pastor-who-th\
inks-oprah-precursor-antichrist that Oprah is paving the way for the
Antichrist.


Bickle's associate  Lou  Engle 
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/individuals/lou-engle has
organized a series of stadium events  
http://www.pfawf.com/media-center/publications/prop-8s-call-to-extremis\
m pushing prayer, fasting, and politics under the banner of The 
Call, which provided the model for The Response.


Bickle and Engle are  hard-core dominionists who believe they are
ushering in a new Christian  church which will take its rightful place
of dominion over every aspect  of government and society. […]

And lest anyone think that Perry's religious agenda is limited to 
social issues, he made clear that a rigid conservative economic agenda 
was central to his spiritual mission. […]

Perry used the event to let right-wing religious voters and churches 
nationwide know that for those who see politics as spiritual warfare, he
is the warrior they have been waiting for.

For more along these lines, the Texas Observer had a  very interesting
piece
https://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god 
last month — Rick Perry's Army of God —  about a
group of radical Christian leaders with some deeply strange  ideas about
government and their ties to the governor of Texas.

If you thought Jeremiah Wright made for interesting campaign fodder  in
2008, Perry's faith-based associations offer even more 
eyebrow-raising opportunities.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_08/this_week_in_g\
od_14031510.php



 --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 From: Tom Pall thomas.pall@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The next president of the US has just thrown
his hat into the ring
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, August 13, 2011, 11:00 AM
















 Â









   What a winning ticket.   A Texan and an Alaskan. 
Now we're going to get things rolling again.   Leadership and
assassination insurance all in one ticket.

[FairfieldLife] Re: WG: Colombian president receiving blessing of the older brothers

[nablusoss1008]

Very interesting, thanks for posting this !


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamer...@... wrote:

 this article is made by David Nayan, one of the secretaries of Raja Luis.
  
  
 Subject: great blog post about Colombian president receiving blessing of the 
 older brothers
 
 
  
 http://theaccidentalmonk.com/2010/unprecedented-presidential-oath/ 
 
 
 
 Unprecedented Presidential Oath
 By 
 David NayanPublished: August 8, 2010

[FairfieldLife] Re: WG: Colombian president receiving blessing of the older brothers

[shukra69]

so beautiful, thank you

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamer...@... wrote:

 this article is made by David Nayan, one of the secretaries of Raja Luis.
  
  
 Subject: great blog post about Colombian president receiving blessing of the 
 older brothers
 
 
  
 http://theaccidentalmonk.com/2010/unprecedented-presidential-oath/ 
 
 
 
 Unprecedented Presidential Oath
 By 
 David NayanPublished: August 8, 2010

[FairfieldLife] Re: WG: Colombian president receiving blessing of the older brothers

[Ron R]

I am surprised that the news media chose to report that the Vice President had 
a stroke rather than report on this beautiful gesture by the incoming Colombian 
President.

It is a GREAT post - the photos are amazing! Just a month ago when Bolivia's 
President Evo Morales took power for his second term he also participated in an 
indigenous ceremony
that was beautiful to look at.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukr...@... wrote:

 so beautiful, thank you
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
 
  this article is made by David Nayan, one of the secretaries of Raja Luis.
   
   
  Subject: great blog post about Colombian president receiving blessing of 
  the older brothers
  
  
   
  http://theaccidentalmonk.com/2010/unprecedented-presidential-oath/ 
  
  
  
  Unprecedented Presidential Oath
  By 
  David NayanPublished: August 8, 2010
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--President Chissano to speak Friday

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 
 From: Dome Announcements owner-dom...@...
 Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--President Chissano to speak Friday
 To: Dome-L dom...@...
 Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 12:50 PM
 President Joaquim Alberto Chissano, President of Mozambique 1986-2005, who
 introduced Transcendental Meditation and Yogic Flying to the military and
 brought an end to the longstanding civil war, will be speaking at a
 celebration honoring him in Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome, Friday Oct.
 16th at 8:15 pm.
 
 President Chissano visited Maharishi in Holland, and Maharishi was so loving
 towards him as a great friend of our worldwide Movement and benefactor of
 his country. President Chissano also spoke to our community by
 video-teleconference when he was the Commencement speaker in June 1998.
 
 He is highly regarded in the international community as a statesman and
 continues to work for peace in Africa. He was the first recipient of the
 Achievement in African Leadership award in 2007.
 
 An article in The Independent covered his award, his extraordinary service
 to the international community, and the role of his practice of the
 Transcendental Meditation technique.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/c5jk65
 
 Everyone is warmly encouraged to attend this special event.
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 
 Office of the President
 Maharishi University of Management


This is a rare soul - don't miss this meeting if you are in Fairfield.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XaQ7tz8uM



According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race for 2012 
is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The poll shows that 22% 
of Republicans would support former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee for the party's 
nod, 21% would throw their support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and another 
21% would pick former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%. 

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/06/03/1952314.aspx

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[sparaig]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1951@ wrote:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XaQ7tz8uM
 
 
 
 According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race for 2012 
 is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The poll shows that 22% 
 of Republicans would support former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee for the 
 party's nod, 21% would throw their support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, 
 and another 21% would pick former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
 
 Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%. 
 
 http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/06/03/1952314.aspx



But, what about Rush?


L.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[Mike Dixon]

That would be a pay cut for him.

--- On Tue, 6/9/09, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote:


From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 8:26 PM








--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, do.rflex do.rf...@.. . wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Joe Smith msilver1951@  wrote:
 
  http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=T1XaQ7tz8uM
 
 
 
 According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race for 2012 
 is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The poll shows that 22% 
 of Republicans would support former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee for the 
 party's nod, 21% would throw their support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, 
 and another 21% would pick former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
 
 Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%. 
 
 http://firstread. msnbc.msn. com/archive/ 2009/06/03/ 1952314.aspx


But, what about Rush?

L.

















  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:13 PM, do.rflex wrote:

According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race  
for 2012 is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The  
poll shows that 22% of Republicans would support former Arkansas  
Gov. Mike Huckabee for the party's nod, 21% would throw their  
support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and another 21% would pick  
former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.


Now there's a crop of winners...


Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%.


Even better!

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:13 PM, do.rflex wrote:
 
  According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race  
  for 2012 is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The  
  poll shows that 22% of Republicans would support former Arkansas  
  Gov. Mike Huckabee for the party's nod, 21% would throw their  
  support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and another 21% would pick  
  former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
 
 Now there's a crop of winners...
 
  Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%.
 
 Even better!
 
 Sal


Good laughs, Sal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[raunchydog]

Prediction: Gen. David Petraeus and Liz Cheney.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote:

 On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:13 PM, do.rflex wrote:
 
  According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race  
  for 2012 is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The  
  poll shows that 22% of Republicans would support former Arkansas  
  Gov. Mike Huckabee for the party's nod, 21% would throw their  
  support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and another 21% would pick  
  former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
 
 Now there's a crop of winners...
 
  Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%.
 
 Even better!
 
 Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[seekliberation]

I wouldn't count the GOP out just yet.  If we look at all past elections since 
the death of JFK, we see voting not based on who is the right man for the job, 
but rather who will be different from who we have now.  

Think about it:  Lyndon Johnson (Democrat) takes over after JFK.  Despite his 
valiant efforts towards civil rights, he does a rather shitty job of getting us 
out of Vietnam.  So we replace him with who?  Nixon 
(Republican)...YAAAY!

I don't need to go into detail with Nixon now, do I?  He screwed up, so who did 
we elect?  Jimmy Carter (Democrat).  He seemed to do nothing significant, 
inflation was rising, and the problems we were having with Iran, well he wasn't 
solving them.  So who did we elect?  Reagan (Republican).  Because of his 
overwhelming popularity, Bush was elected.  But after 12 years and a 
significant loss for our economy who did we elect?  Bil Clinton (Democrat).  
After 8 years of him, despite an improving economy, he embarassed his party 
with a blow job in the white house resulting in impeachment.  

So who did we elect?  GW Bush (Republican).  8 years of him, people are fed up 
with him too.  So we go the other direction as usual.  We elect a 
democrat..Barack Obama.  


Does anyone here really believe that Obama is going to kick so much ass that 
the Republicans stand no chance whatsoever of coming back?  The democrats don't 
exactly have any great heroes either.  Obama came out of nowhere and won due to 
his awesome speaking abilities.  John Kerry has stuck his foot in his mouth one 
too many times.  John Edwards adultery has finished him in.  Hillary still has 
some gas in her, but she's Obama's toy for now.  

I can't say I love republicans, but if you look at the history of America's 
voters flip-flop tendency over the past 70-80 years, Republicans aren't in as 
serious danger as it looks.

Seekliberation
(aka mike brown) 




 Prediction: Gen. David Petraeus and Liz Cheney.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:13 PM, do.rflex wrote:
  
   According to a recent CNN/Opinion Research poll, the Republican race  
   for 2012 is a dead heat, with no distinguishable front-runner. The  
   poll shows that 22% of Republicans would support former Arkansas  
   Gov. Mike Huckabee for the party's nod, 21% would throw their  
   support behind Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, and another 21% would pick  
   former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
  
  Now there's a crop of winners...
  
   Also in the poll, Newt Gingrich got 13%, and Jeb Bush got 6%.
  
  Even better!
  
  Sal
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Next President in 2012

[Richard J. Williams]

seekliberation wrote:
 I wouldn't count the GOP out just yet.

Soon, over one third of the U.S. Senate 
and all of the House of Representatives 
will be up for relection. That's when 
the American voters will decide who or 
not has been doing their job. 

If the payroll taxes are higher, and the 
economy is still on the down-slide, and 
there is still a double-digit deficit, 
the current congressional leaders will 
be voted out of office. It isn't just 
the bail-outs that get people angry, 
it's the runaway spending and porky 
congress. 

There will be 'Tea Parties' all over 
the country! 

If deflation, due to government spending, 
causes the dollar to slide, there will 
be hell to pay around election time in 
two years. If there is no economic success 
with the current administration, my 
prediction is that independent candidates 
will take over the U.S. Congress - both 
the current Repugs and the Dems will be 
out of a job.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Negro President

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
j_alexander_stan...@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlevC1GpkS8



Not as good, but the same guy did one on gay marriage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMSrEiPl5vYfeature=channel




.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Daily Show: President Bush's Painful Exit Interview

[Richard J. Williams]

John wrote:
 Jon Stewart reviews President Bush's downright 
 awful interview with Charlie Gibson and reflects 
 on just how badly the man has ruined this country, 
 and how he refuses to accept any responsibility 
 for it all.
 
As George W. Bush completes the last weeks of his 
presidency, the phrase bloodied but unbowed comes 
to mind. The MSM is delighted about the first part, 
of course, having done all it could to inflict that 
condition. But it still seems to rankle that Bush 
has not confessed to large-scale error. With the 
exception of a trip to 're-education camp,' nothing 
Bush could do would delight his liberal detractors 
more than such a confession.

Read more:

'that elusive final victory'
Posted by Paul Mirengoff
Powerline, December 3, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/5z83g5 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Daily Show: President Bush's Painful Exit Interview

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Jon Stewart reviews President Bush's downright awful interview with
 Charlie Gibson and reflects on just how badly the man has ruined 
this
 country, and how he refuses to accept any responsibility for it all.
 
 Do we really have to build this guy 
 a library?! I mean, can't we just get 
 him an arcade/go-kart course?
 

Bush has a malefic yoga in his natal chart.  It's called Kala Sarpa 
Yoga which has contributed to the sufferings of the nation, from an 
ill-fated engagement in the Iraq War and now the collapse of the 
stock market, and succeeding fixes in the form of bailouts to the 
financial institutions and perhaps the auto industry.

Since Bush does not know jyotish, he will of course deny his 
involvement with the national fiasco to his dying days.  The media in 
turn will forever analyze this administration for its failures and 
thus become a compilation of stories for history books.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
  When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for 
  their choice , 64% say Palin.
  
 An up to the minute survey of Democrats showed that 100% want 
 the GOP to choose Palin for the party's 2012 presidential 
 nominee

Exactly.

The way to deal with blowhards and people who
are so self-unaware that they don't realize 
what they are saying is to *let them speak*.

The same thing that works on Fairfield Life
works in politics. When you encounter one of
these blowhards, you don't have to expend your
energy informing other people what they are.
All you have to do is push their buttons and
sit back and allow them to do it themselves,
in their own words.

By all means nominate Sarah Palin for the
Presidency in 2012. This time, Obama will say
Yes to the challenge of lots of open debates
faster than shit through a goose. Because the
way to expose what Sarah Palin is is to give
her a platform from which to speak, and then
sit back and let her do so.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[Peter]

--- On Sun, 11/9/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:06 AM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Shemp, you remind me of my mildly psychotic patients.
 
 
 
 Only the mildly psychotic ones?  Gosh, I would
 have thought that 
 the over-the-bend types would be more to my ilk.

Well, Shemp, at least you have one foot in consensual reality, but I'm 
beginning to have my doubts ;-)

  I can't take anything you say seriously. How
 anyone can perceive 
 Palin as presidential material is incomprehensible. This is
 not just 
 because I tend to vote democratic. There are plenty of
 capable 
 republican women out there who would make perfectly fine
 presidents. 
 I might disagree with their politics, but they are not
 intellectually 
 incurious with a very poor fund of information and verbally
 
 challenged. This woman-and not because she is a woman-is an
 absolute 
 disgrace to the republican party. What the hell was Bill
 Kristol 
 thinking when he suggested her to McCain? To even remotely
 believe 
 that somehow she will run for president in 2012 is
 ridiculous. Why 
 would the RNC support such a political fool? They
 won't. 
 
 
 
 That's what they said about Reagan.
 
 Hell, they were saying that about him when he was governor
 of 
 California back in the '60s.  Even I know that and I
 grew up in 
 Quebec and heard all about it and heard the snickering and
 the 
 stereotypes heaped upon him.
 
 Palin is a hero to the conservative base.  Let's see
 what the future 
 brings.

I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her. Shocked and 
disappointed. What's happening to her now is really awful with the anonymous 
attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat with Van Sustern on Monday.That 
would be a bloodbath.   


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her.
Shocked and disappointed. What's happening to her now is really awful
with the anonymous attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat with
Van Sustern on Monday.That would be a bloodbath.

Sarah deserves all she gets. I cannot forgive her remark, made many
times, about Obama palling around with terrorists. That was a
disgraceful comment and she should be ashamed of it. Not only was it
ridiculous and untrue, it was also dangerous and could have incited
someone to harm Obama. I read that the number of threats against Obama
is huge, and Sarah Palin bears some responsibility. If due to some
self-destructive streak in the Republican Party she gets the 2012
nomination, I can confidently predict, right now, the result: Barack
49 states, Sarah 1 (that's assuming she can even hold on to Alaska). 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 The way to deal with blowhards and people who
 are so self-unaware that they don't realize 
 what they are saying is to *let them speak*.
 
 The same thing that works on Fairfield Life
 works in politics. When you encounter one of
 these blowhards, you don't have to expend your
 energy informing other people what they are.
 All you have to do is push their buttons and
 sit back and allow them to do it themselves,
 in their own words.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work so well if at
the same time you're urging folks *not to read
their posts*.

(Speaking of people who are so self-unaware
that they don't realize what they're saying.)

guffaw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  The way to deal with blowhards and people who
  are so self-unaware that they don't realize 
  what they are saying is to *let them speak*.
  
  The same thing that works on Fairfield Life
  works in politics. When you encounter one of
  these blowhards, you don't have to expend your
  energy informing other people what they are.
  All you have to do is push their buttons and
  sit back and allow them to do it themselves,
  in their own words.
 
 Unfortunately, that doesn't work so well if at
 the same time you're urging folks *not to read
 their posts*.
 
 (Speaking of people who are so self-unaware
 that they don't realize what they're saying.)
 
 guffaw

Plus, we know that the cult-addled ex-Pat is always the first one 
through the door to read those posts himself.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[curtisdeltablues]

 I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat with Van Sustern on Monday.

Wow, sexist much?  I never hear you talking about Obama's rack.

Oops, sorry, my inner Beevis and Butthead got the best of me but I'm
OK now,

Anyho

No one loves their Palin hating more than I do.  But you know what
would shut me up?  A round of normal press discussions with her about
real issues, topics and concepts, and having her nail it.  Not
softball fluff pieces from Sean or Gretta, but a little Chris Matthews
or George Stephanopoulis, John McLaughlin, O'reilly, add your own
names.  I don't care about all this nonsense going on with her
staffers.  There is too much agenda spin. I want to judge her command
of issues for myself .

So far we have heard two things from her, crappy initial interviews
where she was rightfully scared to death,(except for when she talked
to Hannity while he rubbed her foot) and her in attack-dog mode going
after Obama with what I consider to be cheap-shot politics and fear
mongering about his otherness.  So how am I to come to come to the
conclusion that there is a lot more to her?

Right now she has the problem of descending into a soap opera or
parody.  I think she should kick back, read a few serious books about
the international scene, while Todd takes care of the kids, run her
state, and come out swinging next year with a round of serious get to
know the real me interviews.  I don't need anymore talk about
Sarah, I need more talk from her.  I'll know pretty quickly if my
initial impression was right.

I'll give you an example, Obama.  I was pretty resistant to Obama
mania and had heard too much ABOUT him.  It wasn't until I took to the
time to go back and listen to his speeches and hear him interviewed
that I gained a respect for his thinking process.  That is really what
matters to me.  I know all politicians fling plenty of BS to get
elected, even some stuff they believe until their feet hit the ground.
 I honestly believe that Bush hoped he could bring a bi-partisan
spirit to Washington, and was genuinely surprised when he hit the
Washington grinder.  The same thing will happen to Obama.  But my
optimism about him is that I think he has the (as Bill Clinton put it)
intellectual curiosity to find his way.  I am not putting trust in his
current positions on anything, they may get reversed. As Lincoln said
when challenged on his reversal on the issue of slavery, I don't
respect a man who doesn't know more today than he did yesterday.  So
my impression of him is from listen TO him, not the political spin
masters.

So it is pretty simple for Palin.  Let us get to know you, if your
handlers kept you from the press as you claim, get out and do some
substantial interviews, and we can decide for ourselves exactly what
you have under the hood.  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 --- On Sun, 11/9/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 12:06 AM
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
  drpetersutphen@ 
  wrote:
  
   Shemp, you remind me of my mildly psychotic patients.
  
  
  
  Only the mildly psychotic ones?  Gosh, I would
  have thought that 
  the over-the-bend types would be more to my ilk.
 
 Well, Shemp, at least you have one foot in consensual reality, but
I'm beginning to have my doubts ;-)
 
   I can't take anything you say seriously. How
  anyone can perceive 
  Palin as presidential material is incomprehensible. This is
  not just 
  because I tend to vote democratic. There are plenty of
  capable 
  republican women out there who would make perfectly fine
  presidents. 
  I might disagree with their politics, but they are not
  intellectually 
  incurious with a very poor fund of information and verbally
  
  challenged. This woman-and not because she is a woman-is an
  absolute 
  disgrace to the republican party. What the hell was Bill
  Kristol 
  thinking when he suggested her to McCain? To even remotely
  believe 
  that somehow she will run for president in 2012 is
  ridiculous. Why 
  would the RNC support such a political fool? They
  won't. 
  
  
  
  That's what they said about Reagan.
  
  Hell, they were saying that about him when he was governor
  of 
  California back in the '60s.  Even I know that and I
  grew up in 
  Quebec and heard all about it and heard the snickering and
  the 
  stereotypes heaped upon him.
  
  Palin is a hero to the conservative base.  Let's see
  what the future 
  brings.
 
 I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her.
Shocked and disappointed. What's happening to her now is really awful
with the anonymous attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat with
Van Sustern on Monday.That would be a bloodbath.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[lurkernomore20002000]

Feste, it sounds like you are going through serious post election 
withdrawal.  Already looking ahead to 2012, and pontificating.  
Playing up this palling around with terroists as though it's 
beyond the pale of typical campagin rhetoric.  Believe me, if not 
this quote, you'd find another to create good 'ol righteous 
indignation  Try walking around your living room and work off some 
of this monologuing. Oh, and maybe focus on the present, and see how 
Obama handles the current challenges. 

You have placed him on such a pedestal.  Tell me how he is not going 
to disappoint numerous supporters.  Sounds like Sarah Palin is going 
to play the role for you that the Clintons have played for Rush 
Limbaugh. Whatever Barack does, you'll be complaining about Palin.


-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
wrote:
 
 
  I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her.
 Shocked and disappointed. What's happening to her now is really 
awful
 with the anonymous attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat 
with
 Van Sustern on Monday.That would be a bloodbath.
 
 Sarah deserves all she gets. I cannot forgive her remark, made many
 times, about Obama palling around with terrorists. That was a
 disgraceful comment and she should be ashamed of it. Not only was 
it
 ridiculous and untrue, it was also dangerous and could have incited
 someone to harm Obama. I read that the number of threats against 
Obama
 is huge, and Sarah Palin bears some responsibility. If due to 
some
 self-destructive streak in the Republican Party she gets the 2012
 nomination, I can confidently predict, right now, the result: 
Barack
 49 states, Sarah 1 (that's assuming she can even hold on to 
Alaska).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[feste37]

Lurk, I think you're right . . . 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Feste, it sounds like you are going through serious post election 
 withdrawal.  Already looking ahead to 2012, and pontificating.  
 Playing up this palling around with terroists as though it's 
 beyond the pale of typical campagin rhetoric.  Believe me, if not 
 this quote, you'd find another to create good 'ol righteous 
 indignation  Try walking around your living room and work off some 
 of this monologuing. Oh, and maybe focus on the present, and see how 
 Obama handles the current challenges. 
 
 You have placed him on such a pedestal.  Tell me how he is not going 
 to disappoint numerous supporters.  Sounds like Sarah Palin is going 
 to play the role for you that the Clintons have played for Rush 
 Limbaugh. Whatever Barack does, you'll be complaining about Palin.
 
 
 -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
  
  
   I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her.
  Shocked and disappointed. What's happening to her now is really 
 awful
  with the anonymous attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat 
 with
  Van Sustern on Monday.That would be a bloodbath.
  
  Sarah deserves all she gets. I cannot forgive her remark, made many
  times, about Obama palling around with terrorists. That was a
  disgraceful comment and she should be ashamed of it. Not only was 
 it
  ridiculous and untrue, it was also dangerous and could have incited
  someone to harm Obama. I read that the number of threats against 
 Obama
  is huge, and Sarah Palin bears some responsibility. If due to 
 some
  self-destructive streak in the Republican Party she gets the 2012
  nomination, I can confidently predict, right now, the result: 
 Barack
  49 states, Sarah 1 (that's assuming she can even hold on to 
 Alaska).
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[feste37]

Now I find confirmation in the Telegraph of what I had said about
Palin, so I'm not quite so ready to accept your censure, Lurk. What
she did was dangerous and could have had, could still have, terrible
consequences. She should not show her face on the national stage again. 


Published on Sunday, November 9, 2008 by The Telegraph/UK

Sarah Palin Blamed by The US Secret Service Over Death Threats Against
Barack Obama

Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in
death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents
revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.

by Tim Shipman

The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for
accusing Mr Obama of palling around with terrorists, citing his
association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

Palin's tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists. 
The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with
supporters yelling terrorist and kill him until the McCain
campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have
unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they
had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the
Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to
her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: Why would
they try to make people hate us?

The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are
likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future
presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana
Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time.

Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week
by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a
high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: Two plots to
assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and
several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal
authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that
have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues.

Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election,
claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's
patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lurk, I think you're right . . . 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Feste, it sounds like you are going through serious post election 
  withdrawal.  Already looking ahead to 2012, and pontificating.  
  Playing up this palling around with terroists as though it's 
  beyond the pale of typical campagin rhetoric.  Believe me, if not 
  this quote, you'd find another to create good 'ol righteous 
  indignation  Try walking around your living room and work off some 
  of this monologuing. Oh, and maybe focus on the present, and see how 
  Obama handles the current challenges. 
  
  You have placed him on such a pedestal.  Tell me how he is not going 
  to disappoint numerous supporters.  Sounds like Sarah Palin is going 
  to play the role for you that the Clintons have played for Rush 
  Limbaugh. Whatever Barack does, you'll be complaining about Palin.
  
  
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
  wrote:
   
   
I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her.
   Shocked and disappointed. What's happening to her now is really 
  awful
   with the anonymous attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat 
  with
   Van Sustern on Monday.That would be a bloodbath.
   
   Sarah deserves all she gets. I cannot forgive her remark, made many
   times, about Obama palling around with terrorists. That was a
   disgraceful comment and she should be ashamed of it. Not only was 
  it
   ridiculous and untrue, it was also dangerous and could have incited
   someone to harm Obama. I read that the number of threats against 
  Obama
   is huge, and Sarah Palin bears some responsibility. If due to 
  some
   self-destructive streak in the Republican Party she gets the 2012
   nomination, I can confidently predict, right now, the result: 
  Barack
   49 states, Sarah 1 (that's assuming she can even hold on to 
  Alaska).
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now I find confirmation in the Telegraph of what I had said about
 Palin, so I'm not quite so ready to accept your censure, Lurk. What
 she did was dangerous and could have had, could still have, terrible
 consequences.

I agree,  it was strange to see some of the rowdiness at the convention,
and also at the rallies.  In fact I attended a McCain rally here in the
midwest where the crowd did the responsive bo everytime Obama's name
was mentioned.  It did have a rabble rousing feel IMO.  Or an air of
desperation.

She should not show her face on the national stage again.

Pretty harsh censure IMO.  I allow people  change.


 Published on Sunday, November 9, 2008 by The Telegraph/UK

 Sarah Palin Blamed by The US Secret Service Over Death Threats Against
 Barack Obama

 Sarah Palin's attacks on Barack Obama's patriotism provoked a spike in
 death threats against the future president, Secret Service agents
 revealed during the final weeks of the campaign.

 by Tim Shipman

 The Republican vice presidential candidate attracted criticism for
 accusing Mr Obama of palling around with terrorists, citing his
 association with the sixties radical William Ayers.

 Palin's tone may have unintentionally encouraged white supremacists.
 The attacks provoked a near lynch mob atmosphere at her rallies, with
 supporters yelling terrorist and kill him until the McCain
 campaign ordered her to tone down the rhetoric.

 But it has now emerged that her demagogic tone may have
 unintentionally encouraged white supremacists to go even further.

 The Secret Service warned the Obama family in mid October that they
 had seen a dramatic increase in the number of threats against the
 Democratic candidate, coinciding with Mrs Palin's attacks.

 Michelle Obama, the future First Lady, was so upset that she turned to
 her friend and campaign adviser Valerie Jarrett and said: Why would
 they try to make people hate us?

 The revelations, contained in a Newsweek history of the campaign, are
 likely to further damage Mrs Palin's credentials as a future
 presidential candidate. She is already a frontrunner, with Louisiana
 Governor Bobby Jindal, to take on Mr Obama in four years time.

 Details of the spike in threats to Mr Obama come as a report last week
 by security and intelligence analysts Stratfor, warned that he is a
 high risk target for racist gunmen. It concluded: Two plots to
 assassinate Obama were broken up during the campaign season, and
 several more remain under investigation. We would expect federal
 authorities to uncover many more plots to attack the president that
 have been hatched by white supremacist ideologues.

 Irate John McCain aides, who blame Mrs Palin for losing the election,
 claim Mrs Palin took it upon herself to question Mr Obama's
 patriotism, before the line of attack had been cleared by Mr McCain.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  Lurk, I think you're right . . .
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   Feste, it sounds like you are going through serious post election
   withdrawal. Already looking ahead to 2012, and pontificating.
   Playing up this palling around with terroists as though it's
   beyond the pale of typical campagin rhetoric. Believe me, if not
   this quote, you'd find another to create good 'ol righteous
   indignation Try walking around your living room and work off some
   of this monologuing. Oh, and maybe focus on the present, and see
how
   Obama handles the current challenges.
  
   You have placed him on such a pedestal. Tell me how he is not
going
   to disappoint numerous supporters. Sounds like Sarah Palin is
going
   to play the role for you that the Clintons have played for Rush
   Limbaugh. Whatever Barack does, you'll be complaining about Palin.
  
  
   -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@
   wrote:


 I'd really be shocked if the conservative base supported her.
Shocked and disappointed. What's happening to her now is really
   awful
with the anonymous attacks. I hope she doesn't do a tit-for-tat
   with
Van Sustern on Monday.That would be a bloodbath.
   
Sarah deserves all she gets. I cannot forgive her remark, made
many
times, about Obama palling around with terrorists. That was a
disgraceful comment and she should be ashamed of it. Not only
was
   it
ridiculous and untrue, it was also dangerous and could have
incited
someone to harm Obama. I read that the number of threats against
   Obama
is huge, and Sarah Palin bears some responsibility. If due to
   some
self-destructive streak in the Republican Party she gets the
2012
nomination, I can confidently predict, right now, the result:
   Barack
49 states, Sarah 1 (that's assuming she can even hold on to
   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shempmcgurk wrote:
  Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
idiot, 
  no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
 
  I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as 
president 
  more than her.
 
  Take a look at the poll results below.
 
  -
 
  Rasmussen Reports, in a new poll published Friday, has some 
  interesting data on how Republicans still have overwhelming 
positive 
  feelings about Palin:
 
  Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of 
  Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only 
eight 
  percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three 
percent 
  (3%) Very Unfavorable.
 
 
  When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their 
  choice for the party's 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. 
The 
  next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful 
  challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike 
  Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of 
  Massachusetts with 11%.
 
  Three other sitting governors - Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, 
Charlie 
  Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota - all pull low 
single-
  digit support. 
 All Obama has to do is turn some things around and no one will vote 
for 
 a Republican for a long time (if ever, more likely it will splinter 
off 
 into other parties).   As it is they would be foolish to run 
Palin.  She 
 should have stuck to being a news anchor.   The era of electing 
someone 
 you can have a beer with is over.  It was one of the darkest, if 
not 
 the darkest, era in American history and the public will be paying 
for 
 it for a long time.  All you have to do is show why they are 
paying 
 for it.  Game over.



I wouldn't write off the Republicans just yet, Bhairitu...Obama isn't 
even president yet.  A whole lot of things can happen in 4 years.

To think that America is anything but a right-of-center country would 
be a mistake.  Obama is the first Democrat to garner more than 50% of 
the popular vote since Jimmy Carter in '76 (and he only got 50.1% of 
the vote).  Obama's margin of victory -- 6.5% -- was hardly a 
landslide...nor was his margin in the electoral college a landslide.

But if he governs the country satisfactorily in the bi-partisan 
manner he has pledged to and he follows through on his election 
promises, he has a chance at a second term.

His appointment of the Zionist Rahm Emanuel bodes well for the future 
in my estimation.

But I would wait at least a year or two and see how things unfold 
before you start writing off a party that has occupied the White 
House for 28 of the last 40 years.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snip]

Obama has proven his ability to handle numerous serious
 challenges simultaneously. 

[snip]


Oh, really?

Which numerous serious challenges are you referring to?

Look I wish the guy well.  He was chosen as our president and I want to 
rally behind him with everyone else.

But I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.  Please 
enlighten me.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:15 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

[snip]

Obama has proven his ability to handle numerous serious
 challenges simultaneously. 

[snip]

Oh, really?

Which numerous serious challenges are you referring to?

Like all the crap that was thrown at him during the campaign. Many pundits
are commenting on how graciously he handled it, and how extraordinarily
well-run his campaign was. Huge contrast with the McCain/Palin campaign.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[Bhairitu]

shempmcgurk wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 shempmcgurk wrote:
 
 Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
   
 idiot, 
   
 no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.

 I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as 
   
 president 
   
 more than her.

 Take a look at the poll results below.

 -

 Rasmussen Reports, in a new poll published Friday, has some 
 interesting data on how Republicans still have overwhelming 
   
 positive 
   
 feelings about Palin:

 Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of 
 Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only 
   
 eight 
   
 percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three 
   
 percent 
   
 (3%) Very Unfavorable.


 When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their 
 choice for the party's 2012 presidential nominee, 64% say Palin. 
   
 The 
   
 next closest contenders are two former governors and unsuccessful 
 challengers for the presidential nomination this year -- Mike 
 Huckabee of Arkansas with 12% support and Mitt Romney of 
 Massachusetts with 11%.

 Three other sitting governors - Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, 
   
 Charlie 
   
 Crist of Florida and Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota - all pull low 
   
 single-
   
 digit support. 
   
 All Obama has to do is turn some things around and no one will vote 
 
 for 
   
 a Republican for a long time (if ever, more likely it will splinter 
 
 off 
   
 into other parties).   As it is they would be foolish to run 
 
 Palin.  She 
   
 should have stuck to being a news anchor.   The era of electing 
 
 someone 
   
 you can have a beer with is over.  It was one of the darkest, if 
 
 not 
   
 the darkest, era in American history and the public will be paying 
 
 for 
   
 it for a long time.  All you have to do is show why they are 
 
 paying 
   
 for it.  Game over.

 


 I wouldn't write off the Republicans just yet, Bhairitu...Obama isn't 
 even president yet.  A whole lot of things can happen in 4 years.

 To think that America is anything but a right-of-center country would 
 be a mistake.  Obama is the first Democrat to garner more than 50% of 
 the popular vote since Jimmy Carter in '76 (and he only got 50.1% of 
 the vote).  Obama's margin of victory -- 6.5% -- was hardly a 
 landslide...nor was his margin in the electoral college a landslide.

 But if he governs the country satisfactorily in the bi-partisan 
 manner he has pledged to and he follows through on his election 
 promises, he has a chance at a second term.

 His appointment of the Zionist Rahm Emanuel bodes well for the future 
 in my estimation.

 But I would wait at least a year or two and see how things unfold 
 before you start writing off a party that has occupied the White 
 House for 28 of the last 40 years.
Sure, run Palin for President in 2012 and Obama will have a second term 
easy.   But I also think there is going to be some fallout among 
Republicans over the this last election and that may lead to some new 
parties.  A lot of us would like to see some election reform.  This last 
campaign went on far too long doncha think?   Let's cut this nonsense 
down to a few months.  Let's add instant runoff voting and open up to 
more parties.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[boo_lives]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com  
 [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
  
  
  
  Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
 idiot, 
  no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
  
  And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather.
 
 
 Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of course, you are not an 
 idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, 
 Rick. 
 
 
 
 From Wikipedia: 
 
 Idiot was originally created to refer to layman, person lacking
 professional skill, person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of
 ordinary reasoning.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6  Declining to take
part in
 public life, such as democratic government of the polis
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis  (city state), such as the Athenian
 democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy , was
considered
 dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having bad judgment in public and
 political matters. Over time, the term idiot shifted away from its
 original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to individuals
with
 overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity . In modern English
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language  usage, the terms
idiot
 and idiocy describe an extreme folly or stupidity, and its symptoms
 (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a historical
 term for the state or condition now called profound mental retardation
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation .[8]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7 
 
 I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains to you, who think
global
 warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a terrible
disservice, DDT
 was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible disservice,
and now,
 that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as president. Bad judgment
galore.
 
 That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to you 
 in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us 
 which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously 
 during the election.
 
 A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of serious
challenges,
 and Obama met them more effectively than did any other candidate, so
he won.
 Compare him with Palin by any criteria relevant to the presidency
and he is
 vastly superior.

I can name over 10 prominent conservative leaders who came out against
palin BEFORE the election, they didn't even wait until afterwards. I
can't remember this ever happening.  

Evangelicals and rural LIVs love palin = she inspires or should I say
arouses the basest of the republican base.  

Please Please Please run Palin for President!!!

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:54 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
 
 
 
 Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
idiot, 
 no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
 
 And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather.


Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of course, you are not an 
idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, 
Rick. 



From Wikipedia: 

Idiot was originally created to refer to layman, person lacking
professional skill, person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of
ordinary reasoning.[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6  Declining to take part in
public life, such as democratic government of the polis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis  (city state), such as the Athenian
democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy , was considered
dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having bad judgment in public and
political matters. Over time, the term idiot shifted away from its
original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to individuals with
overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity . In modern English
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language  usage, the terms idiot
and idiocy describe an extreme folly or stupidity, and its symptoms
(foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a historical
term for the state or condition now called profound mental retardation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation .[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7 

I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains to you, who think global
warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a terrible disservice, DDT
was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible disservice, and now,
that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as president. Bad judgment galore.

That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to you 
in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us 
which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously 
during the election.

A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of serious challenges,
and Obama met them more effectively than did any other candidate, so he won.
Compare him with Palin by any criteria relevant to the presidency and he is
vastly superior.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Woh! Shemp, are you actually serious? Not getting into an argument 
here, but there seem to be many other republican women infinitely 
more qualified than her. She seems to be a real intellectual light-
weight and rather obtuse about issues outside of the US. Really? 
Serious?



Yes, I'm serious.

I can think of one issue that she screwed up on...but it was a 
domestic issue.

But, please, tell me which issues outside the U.S. you claim that she 
is rather obtuse about?




 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From:
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president 
 
 
 
 
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims
 that she is an idiot, 
 
 no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
 
 
 
 I certainly do...and I can't think of anyone I'd want as president 
 
 more than her.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:15 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 Obama has proven his ability to handle numerous serious
  challenges simultaneously. 
 
 [snip]
 
 Oh, really?
 
 Which numerous serious challenges are you referring to?
 
 Like all the crap that was thrown at him during the campaign. Many 
pundits
 are commenting on how graciously he handled it, and how 
extraordinarily
 well-run his campaign was. Huge contrast with the McCain/Palin 
campaign.



I simply don't know how to respond to that, Rick.

I can't imagine what crap you are referring to other than his 
opponents bringing up his rather non-existant record and the labels --
 such as socialist and wealth-spreader -- that people were 
putting forward suggesting what they felt -- on very good evidence -- 
he was.

I suppose you could call that name-calling.

Is name-calling what you mean by serious challenge?

Name-calling is NOT a serious challenge, Rick.

And which name-calling did he handle simultaneously: socialist 
and spreader of wealth?

Is THAT what you're referring to as the numerous serious challenges 
he handled simultaneously?

If that's not the crap that you are referring to, could you please 
correct me?

Thanks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
 
  
 
 Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
idiot, 
 no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
 
 And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather.



Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot.  Of course, you are not an 
idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, 
Rick.  

That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to you 
in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us 
which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously 
during the election.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[Robert]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
  
   
  
  Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
 idiot, 
  no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
  
  And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather.
 
 
 
 Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot.  Of course, you are not 
an 
 idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, 
 Rick.  
 
 That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to 
you 
 in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us 
 which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously 
 during the election.

Reverand Wright and the Financial Crisis.
To compare Barack Obama to Sarah Palin is ridiculous.
Besides being two humans, residing on the same planet,
I don't see much else they have in common.

Besides, Sarah loves Alaska...
Why don't we all just leave her alone;
The poor woman has been through the mill, and she's the type that 
will just keep going.
It's cold up there, in Alaska, and she needs the extra zeal, just to 
stay warm.
R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[guyfawkes91]

 When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their 
 choice , 64% say Palin.
 
An up to the minute survey of Democrats showed that 100% want the GOP
to choose Palin for the party's 2012 presidential nominee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snip]

 Sure, run Palin for President in 2012 and Obama will have a second 
term 
 easy.   But I also think there is going to be some fallout among 
 Republicans over the this last election and that may lead to some new 
 parties.


Before Palin was chosen as VP, there was a lot of discussion on talk 
radio about rallying Republicans for Bob Barr, the Libertarian 
candidate, more than anything out of protest for the Republicans having 
chosen McCain who is viewed amongst the party faithful as an almost-
Democrat (remember that he almost switched parties when he lost out to 
Bush 8 years ago...remember also that he was, until this election 
cycle, known as the Republican who Democrats loved and said was the one 
Republican they would vote for).  I think they only held off until they 
saw who he chose for the VP slot.

But, as you say, other parties will be in the offing if the party 
doesn't return to its core beliefs which have been fucked over by Bush 
and the elected Republicans who were in Congress over the past 8 years.



  A lot of us would like to see some election reform.  This last 
 campaign went on far too long doncha think?   Let's cut this nonsense 
 down to a few months.



Yes, I do.

It's interesting that you brought this up.  Did you know that a 
Canadian federal election was held a month or two ago?  Yup.  And it 
was called about 6 weeks prior to election day.

Six week election campaign length, from start to finish!

Obama and McCain -- and the others -- have been campaigning for the 
better part of the last 2 years!

Parliamentary systems, like the one in Canada, is much more practical 
in that sense than the long drawn out process in the U.S.  Gosh, in 
another 18 months, they'll start talking about it all over again!





  Let's add instant runoff voting and open up to 
 more parties.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
 Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:54 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ 
wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com  
 [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
  On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%
40yahoogroups.com
 
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
  
  
  
  Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims that she is an 
 idiot, 
  no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah Palin.
  
  And that's because they're idiots. Birds of a feather.
 
 
 Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of course, you are not an 
 idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person than I am, 
 Rick. 
 
 
 
 From Wikipedia: 
 
 Idiot was originally created to refer to layman, person lacking
 professional skill, person so mentally deficient as to be 
incapable of
 ordinary reasoning.[6] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6  Declining to take 
part in
 public life, such as democratic government of the polis
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis  (city state), such as the 
Athenian
 democracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy , was 
considered
 dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having bad judgment in public 
and
 political matters. Over time, the term idiot shifted away from its
 original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to 
individuals with
 overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity . In modern English
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language  usage, the 
terms idiot
 and idiocy describe an extreme folly or stupidity, and its 
symptoms
 (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a 
historical
 term for the state or condition now called profound mental 
retardation
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation .[8]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7 
 
 I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains to you, who 
think global
 warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a terrible 
disservice, DDT
 was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible disservice, 
and now,
 that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as president. Bad 
judgment galore.
 
 That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to 
you 
 in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us 
 which numerous serious challenges Obama handled simultaneously 
 during the election.
 
 A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of serious 
challenges,



...and yet you can't name even one?  Despite there having been a 
series of challenges.

Okay.



 and Obama met them more effectively than did any other candidate, 
so he won.



One might say that the country was so opposed to Bush and the 
Republicans that -- and we've heard this expression countless times 
by the political pundits -- this was the Democrats' year.  Yet Obama 
only prevailed by a 6.5% margin...hardly a landslide...against a 72-
year-old who supported Bush 90% of the time.

More effectively?  Gosh, one would have thought he would have won 
by a 20 point margin, at least.



 Compare him with Palin by any criteria relevant to the presidency 
and he is
 vastly superior.



I won't do that because we spent the last 6 weeks on this forum doing 
exactly that.  To rehash it would be a waste of time.

But you know what the talking points are, Rick.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
  When asked to choose among some of the GOP's top names for their 
  choice , 64% say Palin.
  
 An up to the minute survey of Democrats showed that 100% want the 
GOP
 to choose Palin for the party's 2012 presidential nominee



Were you around when Reagan was president?

Prior to his being elected and during his entire 8 years in office, 
the abuse heaped on him and the snickering done at his expense was on 
a magnitude of about 5 times what Palin went through.

Don't think for a minute that your misogyny and stereotyping of her 
will make her any less palatable as either a candidate or her ability 
to get elected.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[Peter]

Shemp, you remind me of my mildly psychotic patients. I can't take anything you 
say seriously. How anyone can perceive Palin as presidential material is 
incomprehensible. This is not just because I tend to vote democratic. There are 
plenty of capable republican women out there who would make perfectly fine 
presidents. I might disagree with their politics, but they are not 
intellectually incurious with a very poor fund of information and verbally 
challenged. This woman-and not because she is a woman-is an absolute disgrace 
to the republican party. What the hell was Bill Kristol thinking when he 
suggested her to McCain? To even remotely believe that somehow she will run for 
president in 2012 is ridiculous. Why would the RNC support such a political 
fool? They won't.  


--- On Sat, 11/8/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 11:18 PM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
 Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
  Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 5:54 PM
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
  
   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ,
 Rick Archer rick@ 
 wrote:
  
   From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com  
  [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ]
   On Behalf Of shempmcgurk
   Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 1:03 PM
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife%
 40yahoogroups.com
  
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president
   
   
   
   Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims
 that she is an 
  idiot, 
   no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah
 Palin.
   
   And that's because they're idiots. Birds
 of a feather.
  
  
  Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of
 course, you are not an 
  idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person
 than I am, 
  Rick. 
  
  
  
  From Wikipedia: 
  
  Idiot was originally created to refer to
 layman, person lacking
  professional skill, person so mentally
 deficient as to be 
 incapable of
  ordinary reasoning.[6] 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6
  Declining to take 
 part in
  public life, such as democratic government of the
 polis
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis  (city
 state), such as the 
 Athenian
  democracy
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy ,
 was 
 considered
  dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having
 bad judgment in public 
 and
  political matters. Over time, the term
 idiot shifted away from its
  original connotation of selfishness and came to refer
 to 
 individuals with
  overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity .
 In modern English
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language 
 usage, the 
 terms idiot
  and idiocy describe an extreme folly or
 stupidity, and its 
 symptoms
  (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology,
 it is a 
 historical
  term for the state or condition now called profound
 mental 
 retardation
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation
 .[8]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7
 
  
  I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains
 to you, who 
 think global
  warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a
 terrible 
 disservice, DDT
  was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible
 disservice, 
 and now,
  that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as
 president. Bad 
 judgment galore.
  
  That is why I expect you to be able to answer my
 previous post to 
 you 
  in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you --
 to tell us 
  which numerous serious challenges Obama
 handled simultaneously 
  during the election.
  
  A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of
 serious 
 challenges,
 
 
 
 ...and yet you can't name even one?  Despite there
 having been a 
 series of challenges.
 
 Okay.
 
 
 
  and Obama met them more effectively than did any other
 candidate, 
 so he won.
 
 
 
 One might say that the country was so opposed to Bush and
 the 
 Republicans that -- and we've heard this expression
 countless times 
 by the political pundits -- this was the Democrats'
 year.  Yet Obama 
 only prevailed by a 6.5% margin...hardly a
 landslide...against a 72-
 year-old who supported Bush 90% of the time.
 
 More effectively?  Gosh, one would have thought
 he would have won 
 by a 20 point margin, at least.
 
 
 
  Compare him with Palin by any criteria relevant to the
 presidency 
 and he is
  vastly superior.
 
 
 
 I won't do that because we spent the last 6 weeks on
 this forum doing 
 exactly that.  To rehash it would be a waste of time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:


[snip]

  That is why I expect you to be able to answer my previous post to 
 you 
  in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you -- to tell us 
  which numerous serious challenges Obama 
handled simultaneously 
  during the election.
 
 Reverand Wright



Uh, how did he successfully deal with THAT

First of all, he lied about what he knew, when he knew it.  And, 
secondly, we didn't hear much about Wright because McCain pledged 
early on not to bring it up.




 and the Financial Crisis.


Uh, besides being the #2 recipient of donations (i.e. bribes) from 
Fannie Mae and Freddie the Dreamer (after Chris Dodd), what exactly 
pray tell did Obama do to deal with the Financial Crisis other than 
say that he agreed with the Bail Out?  Apparently, when he had that 
photo opp with President Bush and McCain in, I think it was, the 
cabinet room at the White House, all the press reports stated that he 
sat there and said nothing.

Oh, and his position on the Bail Out was exactly the same as Bush's 
and McCain's.

So you've brought up two things, Robert, that are NOT challenges, 
he did not deal with them simultaneously (they happened months 
apart), and by any objective standard of measurement he certainly 
didn't deal with them successfully.

Care to name two challenges?



 To compare Barack Obama to Sarah Palin is ridiculous.



Yes, I agree.

One had executive experience and the other didn't.




 Besides being two humans, residing on the same planet,
 I don't see much else they have in common.
 
 Besides, Sarah loves Alaska...
 Why don't we all just leave her alone;
 The poor woman has been through the mill, and she's the type that 
 will just keep going.
 It's cold up there, in Alaska, and she needs the extra zeal, just 
to 
 stay warm.
 R.G.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Shemp, you remind me of my mildly psychotic patients.



Only the mildly psychotic ones?  Gosh, I would have thought that 
the over-the-bend types would be more to my ilk.




 I can't take anything you say seriously. How anyone can perceive 
Palin as presidential material is incomprehensible. This is not just 
because I tend to vote democratic. There are plenty of capable 
republican women out there who would make perfectly fine presidents. 
I might disagree with their politics, but they are not intellectually 
incurious with a very poor fund of information and verbally 
challenged. This woman-and not because she is a woman-is an absolute 
disgrace to the republican party. What the hell was Bill Kristol 
thinking when he suggested her to McCain? To even remotely believe 
that somehow she will run for president in 2012 is ridiculous. Why 
would the RNC support such a political fool? They won't. 



That's what they said about Reagan.

Hell, they were saying that about him when he was governor of 
California back in the '60s.  Even I know that and I grew up in 
Quebec and heard all about it and heard the snickering and the 
stereotypes heaped upon him.

Palin is a hero to the conservative base.  Let's see what the future 
brings.



 
 
 
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  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Palin for president
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 11:18 PM
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  Archer rick@ wrote:
  
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  Rick Archer rick@ 
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Palin for president



Despite all the cat-calling and all the claims
  that she is an 
   idiot, 
no one seems to get that conservatives love Sarah
  Palin.

And that's because they're idiots. Birds
  of a feather.
   
   
   Well, I guess you're calling me an idiot. Of
  course, you are not an 
   idiot and, of course, a much better and smarter person
  than I am, 
   Rick. 
   
   
   
   From Wikipedia: 
   
   Idiot was originally created to refer to
  layman, person lacking
   professional skill, person so mentally
  deficient as to be 
  incapable of
   ordinary reasoning.[6] 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-5 [7]
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-6
   Declining to take 
  part in
   public life, such as democratic government of the
  polis
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polis  (city
  state), such as the 
  Athenian
   democracy
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy ,
  was 
  considered
   dishonorable. Idiots were seen as having
  bad judgment in public 
  and
   political matters. Over time, the term
  idiot shifted away from its
   original connotation of selfishness and came to refer
  to 
  individuals with
   overall bad judgment-individuals who are stupid
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupidity .
  In modern English
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language 
  usage, the 
  terms idiot
   and idiocy describe an extreme folly or
  stupidity, and its 
  symptoms
   (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology,
  it is a 
  historical
   term for the state or condition now called profound
  mental 
  retardation
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profound_mental_retardation
  .[8]
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#cite_note-7
  
   
   I'd say that only the part marked in bold pertains
  to you, who 
  think global
   warming is bogus and Al Gore has done humanity a
  terrible 
  disservice, DDT
   was benign and Rachael Carson did humanity a terrible
  disservice, 
  and now,
   that Sarah Palin would be your ideal pick as
  president. Bad 
  judgment galore.
   
   That is why I expect you to be able to answer my
  previous post to 
  you 
   in which I ask you -- for the second time, mind you --
  to tell us 
   which numerous serious challenges Obama
  handled simultaneously 
   during the election.
   
   A presidential campaign is, by definition, a series of
  serious 
  challenges,
  
  
  
  ...and yet you can't name even one?  Despite there
  having been a 
  series of challenges.
  
  Okay.
  
  
  
   and Obama met them more effectively than did any other
  candidate, 
  so he won

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Iranian President Is A Nightmare'...

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Why this man should give us all nightmares
By ANN LESLIE 19:17pm 23rd August 2006

Iran's president Almadinejad: Threatened to wipe Israel off the map

Nope, he did no such thing.  Bad translation of
what he actually said.

That doesn't mean he shouldn't give us nightmares,
but not for threatening to wipe Israel off the map.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Iranian President Is A Nightmare'...

[jim_flanegin]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Why this man should give us all nightmaresBy ANN LESLIE 19:17pm 23rd 
August 2006
Iran's president Almadinejad: Threatened to wipe Israel off 
the map

I suggest you watch the interview between Iran's president and Mike 
Wallace archived on the 60 minutes web site. He strikes me as an 
intelligent thoughtful man with Iran's best interests at heart. He IS 
very wary of the US, for very good reason. Like many of the USA 
enemies, he does not come across as agressive or even bellicose in any 
way. He just wants an equitable solution in the Middle East, and to 
stop US and Britain treating that area as their own.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Iranian President Is A Nightmare'...

[jim_flanegin]

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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
 wrote:
 
  Why this man should give us all nightmares
 By ANN LESLIE 19:17pm 23rd August 2006
 
 Iran's president Almadinejad: Threatened to wipe Israel off the 
map
 
 Nope, he did no such thing.  Bad translation of
 what he actually said.
 
 That doesn't mean he shouldn't give us nightmares,
 but not for threatening to wipe Israel off the map.

Similar situation to the cold war, where we engaged the Soviet Union 
in this insane arms race, making each side more and more afraid of 
the other. Let's just act like adults and meet with the guy, for 
God's sake. All of this posturing and blustering from the US makes 
us look rediculous. PS and Cuba too for that matter.

I've said this before, but if we approached one of those countries 
and said we want X, Y, and Z from you and in return we will give you 
A and B, they'd be pleased. And if they screw up, we withdraw the 
offer. 

It seems like the biggest problem we face in the US is incoherent 
foreign policy and weak leadership. It has little to do with the 
supposed threats posed by these other countries. For one thing we 
spend more on weapons than the next 25 countries combined. 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Why Iranian President Is A Nightmare'...

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ 
  wrote:
  
   Why this man should give us all nightmares
  By ANN LESLIE 19:17pm 23rd August 2006
  
  Iran's president Almadinejad: Threatened to wipe Israel off the 
 map
  
  Nope, he did no such thing.  Bad translation of
  what he actually said.
  
  That doesn't mean he shouldn't give us nightmares,
  but not for threatening to wipe Israel off the map.
 
 Similar situation to the cold war, where we engaged the Soviet Union 
 in this insane arms race, making each side more and more afraid of 
 the other. Let's just act like adults and meet with the guy, for 
 God's sake. All of this posturing and blustering from the US makes 
 us look rediculous. PS and Cuba too for that matter.
 
 I've said this before, but if we approached one of those countries 
 and said we want X, Y, and Z from you and in return we will give you 
 A and B, they'd be pleased. And if they screw up, we withdraw the 
 offer. 
 
 It seems like the biggest problem we face in the US is incoherent 
 foreign policy and weak leadership. It has little to do with the 
 supposed threats posed by these other countries. For one thing we 
 spend more on weapons than the next 25 countries combined.



As always, it is good to ask: who benefits? from the current stituation.  The 
answer is: the 
people who make the arms and who otherwise profit from wartime activities. When 
you 
figure out who they are and what relationshiop they have with the Powers That 
Be, you are 
very close to feeling like you live in an Olver Stone movie.







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