Re: [FairfieldLife] The Thought Crime Bill, Nazi Germany and the New Age
billy jim wrote: 2007 America is not the Weimar Republic. There will be no enabling law unless we have a WMD go off in a major city. If that happens we might actually need martial law. Why would be need martial law? Last thing we need is a bunch of dumb asses pushing us around. Some of us will push right back.
[FairfieldLife] The Thought Crime Bill, Nazi Germany and the New Age
If the thought crime bill gets passed into law by the Senate, then, I suspect that this is the last step needed before the concentration camps open their doors. Bush does not really need another 9/11 to declare martial law because posse comitatus, the law that keeps him from declaring martial law for no reason, was struck down as of the first of this month. Of course I hope there is a miracle that will prevent all this, but I have seen this coming all my adult life, and even earlier. It's true I was only five years old when the war was over, but when you hang out on battle fields at that age with body parts flying around your ears, bombs exploding all around you, airplanes crashing into buildings, it tends to be more memorable than ordinary life which most five year olds don't remember. Or, maybe, I just have an unusually good memory. I remember making a conscious decision to learn language (descend into language is how I thought of it) before I was out of diapers. I had a teacher in high school who was a member of the SS at a very high level. My mother was in the resistance movement against Hitler during the Nazi era, and, irony of ironies, she was a secret agent for the Americans immediately after the war. Her main job was to kidnap Nazi scientists from behind the Iron Curtain and get them into the American sector so they could be shipped to America rather than stand trial for war crimes. She was also a sometime interpreter at the Nuremberg war crimes trials. I was a conscious meditating human being, while, all around me, Germany woke up from the trance that the Nazi era had been. I have also done years of solid research on the Nazi-U.S. connection, and in addition to the research there have many interviews with ex Nazis, with survivors of concentration camps, with unrepentant post war Nazis, and with members of the underground resistance against Nazis. One thing I have learned by becoming an expert in several different fields, is that the only people who respect expertise are those who have also gained it in some field, especially in America. The New Age--Nazi Germany connection is something you ignore at your own peril---and that is the last thing I shall say about it. a Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont be sure. Jane Harman, a Democratic member of the House from California, has just gotten together with fellow members to pass HR 1955 RFS. Just four days ago, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 sailed off to the Senate. Harman had fourteen co-sponsors, ten Democrats and four Republicans. Harmans bill has been called, quite properly, a thought crime bill. http://www.truthnews.us/?p=519 This country apparently isn't teaming enough with terrorists for our government's taste so they are redefining terrorist to include all of us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Thought Crime Bill, Nazi Germany and the New Age
2007 America is not the Weimar Republic. There will be no enabling law unless we have a WMD go off in a major city. If that happens we might actually need martial law. Also all these assertions about your privileged status as a witness to history sound rather fantastic. I dont deny that you could have been in that specific post-war confluence of time (more so if you were a rebounder from the Reich) only that it all sounds like stories you heard from people you met along the way. I had a teacher in high school who was a member of the SS at a very high level. Waffen-SS or Allgemeine-SS? You may not know his unit but what was his rank, what were his duties? What is very high was he a Gruppenfurher or Obergruppenfurher? My mother was in the resistance movement against Hitler during the Nazi era, Which resistance, there were several? What years 1938, 1944? Generalizing stories dont go far - they just appear as speculation posing for truth. Coming from a self-professed redpill-er such as yourself, it seems more like sellective belief and selective doubt. Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the thought crime bill gets passed into law by the Senate, then, I suspect that this is the last step needed before the concentration camps open their doors. Bush does not really need another 9/11 to declare martial law because posse comitatus, the law that keeps him from declaring martial law for no reason, was struck down as of the first of this month. Of course I hope there is a miracle that will prevent all this, but I have seen this coming all my adult life, and even earlier. It's true I was only five years old when the war was over, but when you hang out on battle fields at that age with body parts flying around your ears, bombs exploding all around you, airplanes crashing into buildings, it tends to be more memorable than ordinary life which most five year olds don't remember. Or, maybe, I just have an unusually good memory. I remember making a conscious decision to learn language (descend into language is how I thought of it) before I was out of diapers. I had a teacher in high school who was a member of the SS at a very high level. My mother was in the resistance movement against Hitler during the Nazi era, and, irony of ironies, she was a secret agent for the Americans immediately after the war. Her main job was to kidnap Nazi scientists from behind the Iron Curtain and get them into the American sector so they could be shipped to America rather than stand trial for war crimes. She was also a sometime interpreter at the Nuremberg war crimes trials. I was a conscious meditating human being, while, all around me, Germany woke up from the trance that the Nazi era had been. I have also done years of solid research on the Nazi-U.S. connection, and in addition to the research there have many interviews with ex Nazis, with survivors of concentration camps, with unrepentant post war Nazis, and with members of the underground resistance against Nazis. One thing I have learned by becoming an expert in several different fields, is that the only people who respect expertise are those who have also gained it in some field, especially in America. The New Age--Nazi Germany connection is something you ignore at your own peril---and that is the last thing I shall say about it. a Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont be sure. Jane Harman, a Democratic member of the House from California, has just gotten together with fellow members to pass HR 1955 RFS. Just four days ago, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 sailed off to the Senate. Harman had fourteen co-sponsors, ten Democrats and four Republicans. Harmans bill has been called, quite properly, a thought crime bill. http://www.truthnews.us/?p=519 This country apparently isn't teaming enough with terrorists for our government's taste so they are redefining terrorist to include all of us. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Thought Crime Bill, Nazi Germany and the New Age
Those questions about my physics teacher and about my mom's job and my witness status to all that history are part of a book I'm writing. Maybe you want to write a really eye catching review that debunks the whole book when I get it finished--I'd love it. As for Dr. von Droste, I do not know his rank. I know what his duties were. He was working as a physicist at Peenemunde and Dora, the German rocket and space program which was also developing the atom bomb. He and Wernher von Braun were colleagues there and had been friends at university and in high school. Both of them attended the Herrmann Lietz Schule. When I met von Droste, he was a physics teacher at that same school, which I attended in the late fifties. Why is a famous physicist leaving a stellar career to become a lowly high school teacher? At the end of the war, no sooner had the Allied lay down their guns, that they started fighting over the spoils of war, which, in this case included literally thousands of German scientists who were a decade or two ahead of the rest of the world in most of sciences (for one thing, they had not shied away from using human beings as guinea pigs). So both Droste and Braun were sought after. For obvious reasons, too, America did not want all that sensitive expertise in rocketry and warfare to end up in Russian hands. Droste was offered the position which Braun took. Droste had refused it because he had been working for a government once too often. Droste used slave labor and human guinea pigs. Conditions were horrible. So he'd had enough. But, as a conquered German, you don't get to say no when you are part of the spoils of war. Do this for us or stand trial for war crimes. His only hope for survival was to hide out in the woods as a school teacher. German high school teachers are routinely required to have a Ph.D. in their teaching fields, so being a Dr. Droste (dropping the von) in a boarding school located in the middle of a huge forest in an ex-hunting castle was a good way to vanish from the scene. Of course I heard all kinds of stories. What do you think historians do? Do they interview real people and record their stories? I also saw a lot. The good thing about war is that afterwards you get this phoenix effect. It is amazing to live through that, too. billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007 America is not the Weimar Republic. There will be no enabling law unless we have a WMD go off in a major city. If that happens we might actually need martial law. Also all these assertions about your privileged status as a witness to history sound rather fantastic. I dont deny that you could have been in that specific post-war confluence of time (more so if you were a rebounder from the Reich) only that it all sounds like stories you heard from people you met along the way. I had a teacher in high school who was a member of the SS at a very high level. Waffen-SS or Allgemeine-SS? You may not know his unit but what was his rank, what were his duties? What is very high was he a Gruppenfurher or Obergruppenfurher? My mother was in the resistance movement against Hitler during the Nazi era, Which resistance, there were several? What years 1938, 1944? Generalizing stories dont go far - they just appear as speculation posing for truth. Coming from a self-professed redpill-er such as yourself, it seems more like sellective belief and selective doubt. Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the thought crime bill gets passed into law by the Senate, then, I suspect that this is the last step needed before the concentration camps open their doors. Bush does not really need another 9/11 to declare martial law because posse comitatus, the law that keeps him from declaring martial law for no reason, was struck down as of the first of this month. Of course I hope there is a miracle that will prevent all this, but I have seen this coming all my adult life, and even earlier. It's true I was only five years old when the war was over, but when you hang out on battle fields at that age with body parts flying around your ears, bombs exploding all around you, airplanes crashing into buildings, it tends to be more memorable than ordinary life which most five year olds don't remember. Or, maybe, I just have an unusually good memory. I remember making a conscious decision to learn language (descend into language is how I thought of it) before I was out of diapers. I had a teacher in high school who was a member of the SS at a very high level. My mother was in the resistance movement against Hitler during the Nazi era, and, irony of ironies, she was a secret agent for the Americans immediately after the war. Her main job was to kidnap Nazi scientists from behind the Iron Curtain and get them into the American sector so they could be shipped to America
