[FairfieldLife] Today's Neo-Satsang: Devotion in Unity

2006-04-17 Thread t3rinity



Neo Advaita Satsang with Ashtavakra

My child, you may often speak upon various scriptures or hear them. But cannot be established in the Self unless you forget all. AG XVI.1

He who considers himself free is free indeed, and he who
considers himself bound remains bound. 'as one thinks, so one becomes'
is a popular saying in this world, and it is quite true. AG I.11

You are unattached, actionless, self-effulgent, and without any blemish. This is indeed your bondage that you practise meditation. AG I.15

The person with a keen intellect becomes enlightened even when the
instruction is imparted casually, whereas without it the immature
seaker continues to remain confused even after a life-time of seeking
AG XV.1


Perception of Unity by Jnanadeva in Amritanubhava

I came across the name of Jnanadeva or Jnaneshwara, when I first heard
his Commentary of the Gita sung by Lata. When I visited Ramesh first
time 2 years ago, I was heart-struck while listening to the Abhangas
recited at the end of his Satsang. For me there was a sense of
recognition and I had tears in my eyes. So I learned that the Abhangas
were devotional and knowledge inspired poems by Tukaram and
Jnanadeva and someone else who's name I forgot. So in sthe spiritual
bookstore which has all the Nisargadatta and Ramesh books, Chetana in
Mumbai I got a copy of Amritanubhava by Jnanadeva. What shall I
say, Jnanadeva lived 700 years ago is famous for his Gita commentary
cum translation into Marathi, and he finished all this work before he
was 21, I think dying at about this time. I'm glad he didn't wait for
another 20 years to have his enlightenment confirmed by the local Zen
center. The Ninth Chapter is entiteled Jivanmukta-dashakthana. Its all
about life in Unity as you can easily see, and I have not come over a
similar ecstatic description of it. He also makes clear what the role
of devotion is in such a state. As a side note to Vaj - obviously Jivan
Mukti does NOT refere to CC, as you have always wrongly concluded.

I also now understand why Maharishi used to say, that the Bhagavatam is
only really applying to someone in Unity - as devotion is really
exploring and fathoming the depth of Unity only.

Self-referral sensory interaction in Unity

Now fragrance turned into nose, ears sprouted from sound and mirrors became eyes.IX.1

Fans became oscillating with their own breeze, heads blossomed into Champaks exuding aroma IX.2

The tongue turned into juice, the lotus bloomed as sun, and the Chakor (patridge) became the moon IX.3

While the transactions of new and evernew experiences go on with great
fanfare in the state of inactivity there is no awareness at all of what
is going on. IX.9

At the mention of the sense objects the crowd of all sense faculties rush toward them 10

however, just as the vision, as soon as it comes in contact with the
mirror reverts and merges into itself, such becomes the state of
rushing faculties 11

when one stretches his hand to collect ripples what is obtained is nothing but water. 13

When various sense faculties like ears etc get ready to grab the objects of senses like words etc., 16

no sooner is their contact established than they realize that those are not their objects and that their contact was false. 17

the pieces of sugarcane are all in the juice (in juice form) like the
lustre of(various digits) of the moon is found in the full-moon. 18

or just as the moon light sheds light on the moon or rains shower on the sea so the sense organs fall on their objects. 19

Therefore, even though the faculty of speech may talk whatever it
pleases the silence of the super-conscious state is not disturbed. 20

Non-doership in Unity

Here (in the state of liberation) active participation in worldly
activities comes to an end, non-participation gets prominence; all
experiences take place directly under the observation of the Atman 28

[In that state of Jnani the volitional attitude is only an apparent one
- all actions actually take place spontaneously -transl by Ramesh]

In the courtyard of duality monism of its own accord comes to serve and
as the differences widen the unity is doubled (becomes stronger) 29

[The place of duality is gradually taken over by non-duality and the
objective relationship gives way to non-objective relationship -transl
by Ramesh]

In such a state the enjoyment of sense objects surpases even the joy of
liberation. In the abode of Devotion there is coalescence between the
devotee and God. 30

[In the process of the normal working of the senses the subject/object relationship does not exist. - trans. b Ramesh]

Here self-will is the moral code and unrestrained action is the state
of super-consciousness. Such a state has the prestigious throne of
liberation to occupy. 34


Devotion in the State of Unity

Here the very God becomes the devotee, the very destination becomes the
path and the entire universe becomes one single solitary resort 35

A ball starts moving on its own, strikes itself and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Today's Neo-Satsang: Devotion in Unity

2006-04-17 Thread Vaj

On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:34 AM, t3rinity wrote:

  As a side note to Vaj - obviously Jivan Mukti does NOT refere to  
 CC, as you have always wrongly concluded.

Actually that is not my conclusion but that of the official TM yoga- 
sutra translation by Shearer. It actually depends of the context. In  
the context of the jivan-mukti-viveka there is jivan-mukti and videha- 
mukti. Videha-mukti is Unity in that context. It is used differently  
in different contexts but Shearer presumably is echoing Mahesh in his  
comments, therefore those are the ones I would convey in the context  
of a TM conversation. That Vidyaranya explains the difference between  
the two, in terms of the Shankaracharya tradition, is also IMO  
significant. It is also a common distinction made in Advaita Vedanta.


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