[FairfieldLife] What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

[emptybill]

Sanchit karma is the stored reserve of karmic sanskara-s. Rather than
being just imprints, sanskara-s are described as being the seeds for
further actions. However, when a person liberates (jivan-mukta) from
misidentification, these seeds are said to be burned and
unable to germinate. This is said to be a final state – no more
necessity for rebirth.

This is a agricultural metaphor and is a useful way to consider the idea
of living liberation. However, what is not considered is the remaining
cause and effect relationship between those former actions and their own
specific results/effects.

What happens to those effects? The doer is gone … a mere fiction
that has now disappeared from the arena of actions and their results.
Even before that happens, the yogin/yogini realizes that the guna-s only
interact among themselves. Yet, up until complete liberation, there were
causal actions being performed (even right up to liberation) that will
effectuate in the future. The final, manifest effects of these
seed-samskaras however cannot be explained by this metaphor since a
cause without an effect is philosophically meaningless.

Thus the question … who gets the consequences of actions
performed by an individual when that person no longer exists and will
not be reborn at all … not even in some heavenly world?
Saying everyone somehow gets a little bit of that left over
karma is a statement that fails to understand the question.
Moral/immoral karma is not simply some kind of consequence
which everyone can receive – as if it was just like rain on a cloudy
day.

Re: [FairfieldLife] What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?

[gullible fool]

 
The karma goes to the deceased person's close relatives? That's what MMY said 
in one of his books. I'm pretty sure it was the Science of Being book.
 


Under the influence of maya, Brahman appears as Ishvara, the personal God, who 
exists on the celestial level of life, in the subtlest field of creation. In a 
similar manner, under the influence of avidya, atman appears as jiva, or 
individual soul. 
 
- MMY

--- On Mon, 8/30/10, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What happens to the karma of a jivanmukti?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 11:07 PM












Sanchit karma is the stored reserve of karmic sanskara-s. Rather than being 
just imprints, sanskara-s are described as being the seeds for further actions. 
However, when a person liberates (jivan-mukta) from misidentification, these 
seeds are said to be burned and unable to germinate. This is said to be a 
final state – no more necessity for rebirth. 
This is a agricultural metaphor and is a useful way to consider the idea of 
living liberation. However, what is not considered is the remaining cause and 
effect relationship between those former actions and their own specific 
results/effects. 
What happens to those effects? The doer is gone … a mere fiction that has now 
disappeared from the arena of actions and their results. Even before that 
happens, the yogin/yogini realizes that the guna-s only interact among 
themselves. Yet, up until complete liberation, there were causal actions being 
performed (even right up to liberation) that will effectuate in the future. The 
final, manifest effects of these seed-samskaras however cannot be explained by 
this metaphor since a cause without an effect is philosophically meaningless. 
Thus the question … who gets the consequences of actions performed by an 
individual when that person no longer exists and will not be reborn at all … 
not even in some heavenly world?Saying everyone somehow gets a little bit of 
that left over karma is a statement that fails to understand the question. 
Moral/immoral karma is not simply some kind of consequence which everyone can 
receive – as if it was just like rain on a cloudy day.