Re: [FairfieldLife] 'TM-Flip-outs by JM Knapp, anti-TM blogger 1.19.2007
Why was he experimenting anyway? A true acharya knows what effect techniques have as they have been passed down through the tradition and thus time tested. So we must gather that Maharishi never achieved acharya level and is not that much different from a new agers messing around with mantras and techniques they get out of a book and forming their own "mystery school." God knows we have a lot of those kind of people nowadays. Robert Gimbel wrote: > Posted by John M. Knapp, >First there was the recent submission on the Transcendental Meditation Age > of Enlightenment techniques. Then followed the lively discussion pointing out > that the Maharishi tried first one version then another on unsuspecting > 6-Month course participants. > > The guy was basically making it up as he went along. If one thing didn't > work, why then he'd try something else. Older readers here may remember that > the Maharishi referred to the Age of Enlightenment techniques and the later > sidhis as "research experiments into consciousness" after all. > > As Joseppi justly pointed out, we were just lab rats to the Maharishi. Worse, > we were paying lab rats. We paid not only the equivalent of $25,000 in > today's money, we paid in time from our lives. And some of us paid in > psychological damage from "spiritual" experiments that the Maharishi had no > idea how they would turn out. Until we lined up to sip the psychological Kool > Aid. > > This isn't just morally wrong. It's criminal. > > After the Nazi horrors of World War II, during which Nazi scientists > experimented medically and psychologically on Jews and others, the world > reacted with shock. They passed the Nuremberg Code of Ethics, parts of which > were later incorporated into the Geneva Conventions. International law made > it illegal to perform any type of human experimentation without the informed > consent of participants. Informed consent requires that "test subjects" be > told in advance that they are taking part in experimental procedures – and > the possible side effects. "Impermissible experiments" on humans explicitly > included not just medical, but psychological experimentation as well. > > >From the victims of the Maharishi's experiments known as the Fiuggi > >Flipouts, to the course participants of the 6-Month Course, to the > >continuing experiments of Ayur Veda and even the million-dollar Raja course, > >the Maharishi is conducting impermissible experiments on unsuspecting human > >subjects. > > Not informing us that he is experimenting, that there are unknown risks and > dangers to physical and mental well-being – that he is in fact making it up > as he goes along – is a crime against humanity. > > > > > > - > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'TM-Flip-outs by JM Knapp, anti-TM blogger 1.19.2007
This old rehash. Oh God. I can't take it any more. First spraig and Judy then fucking willy and now all the rest. Oh God. It's the end of FFLife. I have pretty much had it. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 4:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'TM-Flip-outs by JM Knapp, anti-TM blogger 1.19.2007 Posted by John M. Knapp, First there was the recent submission on the Transcendental Meditation Age of Enlightenment techniques. Then followed the lively discussion pointing out that the Maharishi tried first one version then another on unsuspecting 6-Month course participants. The guy was basically making it up as he went along. If one thing didn't work, why then he'd try something else. Older readers here may remember that the Maharishi referred to the Age of Enlightenment techniques and the later sidhis as "research experiments into consciousness" after all. As Joseppi justly pointed out, we were just lab rats to the Maharishi. Worse, we were paying lab rats. We paid not only the equivalent of $25,000 in today's money, we paid in time from our lives. And some of us paid in psychological damage from "spiritual" experiments that the Maharishi had no idea how they would turn out. Until we lined up to sip the psychological Kool Aid. This isn't just morally wrong. It's criminal. After the Nazi horrors of World War II, during which Nazi scientists experimented medically and psychologically on Jews and others, the world reacted with shock. They passed the Nuremberg Code of Ethics, parts of which were later incorporated into the Geneva Conventions. International law made it illegal to perform any type of human experimentation without the informed consent of participants. Informed consent requires that "test subjects" be told in advance that they are taking part in experimental procedures - and the possible side effects. "Impermissible experiments" on humans explicitly included not just medical, but psychological experimentation as well. From the victims of the Maharishi's experiments known as the Fiuggi Flipouts, to the course participants of the 6-Month Course, to the continuing experiments of Ayur Veda and even the million-dollar Raja course, the Maharishi is conducting impermissible experiments on unsuspecting human subjects. Not informing us that he is experimenting, that there are unknown risks and dangers to physical and mental well-being - that he is in fact making it up as he goes along - is a crime against humanity. -- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] 'TM-Flip-outs by JM Knapp, anti-TM blogger 1.19.2007
Posted by John M. Knapp, First there was the recent submission on the Transcendental Meditation Age of Enlightenment techniques. Then followed the lively discussion pointing out that the Maharishi tried first one version then another on unsuspecting 6-Month course participants. The guy was basically making it up as he went along. If one thing didn't work, why then he'd try something else. Older readers here may remember that the Maharishi referred to the Age of Enlightenment techniques and the later sidhis as "research experiments into consciousness" after all. As Joseppi justly pointed out, we were just lab rats to the Maharishi. Worse, we were paying lab rats. We paid not only the equivalent of $25,000 in today's money, we paid in time from our lives. And some of us paid in psychological damage from "spiritual" experiments that the Maharishi had no idea how they would turn out. Until we lined up to sip the psychological Kool Aid. This isn't just morally wrong. It's criminal. After the Nazi horrors of World War II, during which Nazi scientists experimented medically and psychologically on Jews and others, the world reacted with shock. They passed the Nuremberg Code of Ethics, parts of which were later incorporated into the Geneva Conventions. International law made it illegal to perform any type of human experimentation without the informed consent of participants. Informed consent requires that "test subjects" be told in advance that they are taking part in experimental procedures and the possible side effects. "Impermissible experiments" on humans explicitly included not just medical, but psychological experimentation as well. >From the victims of the Maharishi's experiments known as the Fiuggi Flipouts, >to the course participants of the 6-Month Course, to the continuing >experiments of Ayur Veda and even the million-dollar Raja course, the >Maharishi is conducting impermissible experiments on unsuspecting human >subjects. Not informing us that he is experimenting, that there are unknown risks and dangers to physical and mental well-being that he is in fact making it up as he goes along is a crime against humanity. - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.
