RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-29 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Technically, we had moderation ... [hence rules such as these were always a 
possibility].  I think that Rick views his authority as an absolute last 
resort, but apparently we reached it.

gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 The original agreement included the understanding
 that the group was being moderated, hence rules such
 as these were always a possibility.

There's been little to no moderation in this group
over its five and a half year existence. Some
moderation was added a few years ago, but that was
done ONLY because of a growing problem with
adult-oriented spam. The solution that worked best was
to make FFL a restricted group, meaning all
prospective new members could not join without first
being approved by a moderator. Technically, we had
moderation, but anyone who applied to join and filled
out the comment section in a way that indicated that
person wanted to be a legitimate member would be
approved to join and would not be put on moderated
status and could get away with posting 50 messages a
day, posting profanity, posting their daily jyotish
spam message, you name it. 

--- Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The original agreement included the understanding
 that the group was being moderated, hence rules such
 as these were always a possibility. Perhaps you
 should read over again the conditions of what you
 *accepted* when you joined.
 
 llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I
 don’t want to start a war or anything, but let’s
 look at this five post limit thing contractually. No
 additional consideration was given for the new rule,
 so essentially no new contract was made. Since the
 rule was placed after the present persons were
 already in place, they could not be said to have
 joined the group with the rule, so thus no rule has
 ever been made. 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Rick Archer
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:25 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it
 
 
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 llundrub
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:42 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it
 
 
 
 I didn't ask for the posting limit, and I
 could shit on it. If I am not
 wanted you all know what to do with me. 
 
 
 
 The posting limit is a mixed blessing and I wish
 we didn’t need it, but we do, and it has helped a
 lot. Of course you’re wanted, but you are the only
 one egregiously violating the posting limit. I was
 hoping you had just gotten carried away or had
 forgotten to count the first day, but you’ve been
 doing it every day. It’s the sort of thing that
 everyone is going to have to abide by if it’s going
 to work, so as your friend, and moderator, I’m
 asking you to please abide by it henceforth.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Chadwick
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:35 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

 

Technically, we had moderation ... [hence rules such as these were always a
possibility].  I think that Rick views his authority as an absolute last
resort, but apparently we reached it.

That's very true. I don't like to control people. The openness and freedom
of FFL is its greatest strength. But it was also a potential weakness, and a
few people took advantage of it. The quality went downhill and some good
people left, so we had to do something. But still, That government is best
which governs least. - Thomas Paine



Re: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-29 Thread Bhairitu
gullible fool wrote:
 The original agreement included the understanding
 that the group was being moderated, hence rules such
 as these were always a possibility.
 

 There's been little to no moderation in this group
 over its five and a half year existence. Some
 moderation was added a few years ago, but that was
 done ONLY because of a growing problem with
 adult-oriented spam. The solution that worked best was
 to make FFL a restricted group, meaning all
 prospective new members could not join without first
 being approved by a moderator. Technically, we had
 moderation, but anyone who applied to join and filled
 out the comment section in a way that indicated that
 person wanted to be a legitimate member would be
 approved to join and would not be put on moderated
 status and could get away with posting 50 messages a
 day, posting profanity, posting their daily jyotish
 spam message, you name it. 

 -
I can see moderation to keep out spammers but the post limit seemed to 
be to appease people who are probably inept with the Internet.  After 
all you don't have to read every post and especially it is easy to see 
that a prolongated argument is going on.  A moderator could always warn 
the prolongated argument people and kick them off.  If they come back 
under different accounts you can then turn them over to Yahoo.

There always seemed to be this group of people in the movement who 
thought Vedic living was something out of the 1890's with women 
walking around with parasols and guys in suits, bowler hats and 
mustaches riding bicycles.  Completely bizarre.  The complainers remind 
me of those types.




RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread llundrub
I didn't ask for the posting limit, and I could shit on it. If I am not
wanted you all know what to do with me. 

-Original Message-
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of TurquoiseB
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:37 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

I love ya, dude, but you've gotta learn to count
to five. It's not fair -- to the others here who 
are trying to abide by the limit, or to the 
moderators who have to track this stuff -- for 
you to keep going over it. 





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RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of llundrub
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

 

I didn't ask for the posting limit, and I could shit on it. If I am not
wanted you all know what to do with me. 

The posting limit is a mixed blessing and I wish we didn't need it, but we
do, and it has helped a lot. Of course you're wanted, but you are the only
one egregiously violating the posting limit. I was hoping you had just
gotten carried away or had forgotten to count the first day, but you've been
doing it every day. It's the sort of thing that everyone is going to have to
abide by if it's going to work, so as your friend, and moderator, I'm asking
you to please abide by it henceforth.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Mar 28, 2007, at 1:37 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


I love ya, dude, but you've gotta learn to count
to five. It's not fair -- to the others here who
are trying to abide by the limit, or to the
moderators who have to track this stuff -- for
you to keep going over it.


It's the OCD curse--there has to be at least one person here with it at 
any given time, or else the whole forum goes Poof!


Sal


Re: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread WLeed3
yes Llundrub??? reduce the dribble. Do it on the  side.



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RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread llundrub
I don't want to start a war or anything, but let's look at this five post
limit thing contractually. No additional consideration was given for the new
rule, so essentially no new contract was made.  Since the rule was placed
after the present persons were already in place, they could not be said to
have joined the group with the rule, so thus no rule has ever been made.
Finally, I like this group, but it's just so many fucking electrons, and I'm
not attached to it. So frankly I don't give a flying fuck whether you all
kick me off or not.  I like you too Rick, and though this is your group, I
don't consider it you, so if you kick me off, I won't be angry at you. I
understand why the rule was made, but since it wasn't really intended for me
personally, I therefore again, don't feel the need to follow it. Lastly, I
think it's a stupid rule. Because five posts is just too few. Any
interesting conversation will have more than five posts.  Just because those
three main dipshits came from AMT and screwed everything up is no reason to
invent new laws. Lastly. I don't follow the law. In general, or in specific.
I do what is my nature. And if my nature doesn't fit in then cut me loose.
Further irony is all the bouncing posts and triple and quadruple reposts
from Yahoo itself as if to underscore the fact that limiting numbers of
posts is a bogus idea.  If I was mod I would play it as it is, as a fascist
dictatorship and I would kick whomever I felt off as soon as they made me
mad. I don't suffer fools, not gladly or otherwise. But I will give it a
break. Let me just add that I work 12 shifts a week and on my one day off if
I feel like doing something I'm going to goddamn well fucking do it. I don't
have time to play nice or by the rules. 

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Archer
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:25 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of llundrub
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

 

I didn't ask for the posting limit, and I could shit on it. If I am not
wanted you all know what to do with me. 

The posting limit is a mixed blessing and I wish we didn't need it, but we
do, and it has helped a lot. Of course you're wanted, but you are the only
one egregiously violating the posting limit. I was hoping you had just
gotten carried away or had forgotten to count the first day, but you've been
doing it every day. It's the sort of thing that everyone is going to have to
abide by if it's going to work, so as your friend, and moderator, I'm asking
you to please abide by it henceforth.

 



RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
The original agreement included the understanding that the group was being 
moderated, hence rules such as these were always a possibility.  Perhaps you 
should read over again the conditions of what you *accepted* when you joined.

llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I don’t want to start a war or 
anything, but let’s look at this five post limit thing contractually. No 
additional consideration was given for the new rule, so essentially no new 
contract was made.  Since the rule was placed after the present persons were 
already in place, they could not be said to have joined the group with the 
rule, so thus no rule has ever been made. 
  From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of Rick Archer
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:25 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it


  
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
Of llundrub
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it


  
I didn't ask for the posting limit, and I could shit on it. If I am not
wanted you all know what to do with me. 



  The posting limit is a mixed blessing and I wish we didn’t need it, but we 
do, and it has helped a lot. Of course you’re wanted, but you are the only one 
egregiously violating the posting limit. I was hoping you had just gotten 
carried away or had forgotten to count the first day, but you’ve been doing it 
every day. It’s the sort of thing that everyone is going to have to abide by if 
it’s going to work, so as your friend, and moderator, I’m asking you to please 
abide by it henceforth.

  

  

 

 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it

2007-03-28 Thread gullible fool

 The original agreement included the understanding
 that the group was being moderated, hence rules such
 as these were always a possibility.

There's been little to no moderation in this group
over its five and a half year existence. Some
moderation was added a few years ago, but that was
done ONLY because of a growing problem with
adult-oriented spam. The solution that worked best was
to make FFL a restricted group, meaning all
prospective new members could not join without first
being approved by a moderator. Technically, we had
moderation, but anyone who applied to join and filled
out the comment section in a way that indicated that
person wanted to be a legitimate member would be
approved to join and would not be put on moderated
status and could get away with posting 50 messages a
day, posting profanity, posting their daily jyotish
spam message, you name it. 

--- Jonathan Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The original agreement included the understanding
 that the group was being moderated, hence rules such
 as these were always a possibility.  Perhaps you
 should read over again the conditions of what you
 *accepted* when you joined.
 
 llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I
 don’t want to start a war or anything, but let’s
 look at this five post limit thing contractually. No
 additional consideration was given for the new rule,
 so essentially no new contract was made.  Since the
 rule was placed after the present persons were
 already in place, they could not be said to have
 joined the group with the rule, so thus no rule has
 ever been made. 
   From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Rick Archer
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:25 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it
 
 
   
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 llundrub
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:42 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Llundrub, cool it
 
 
   
 I didn't ask for the posting limit, and I
 could shit on it. If I am not
 wanted you all know what to do with me. 
 
 
 
   The posting limit is a mixed blessing and I wish
 we didn’t need it, but we do, and it has helped a
 lot. Of course you’re wanted, but you are the only
 one egregiously violating the posting limit. I was
 hoping you had just gotten carried away or had
 forgotten to count the first day, but you’ve been
 doing it every day. It’s the sort of thing that
 everyone is going to have to abide by if it’s going
 to work, so as your friend, and moderator, I’m
 asking you to please abide by it henceforth.
 
   
 
   
 
  
 
  
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