RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III

2013-08-27 Thread Rick Archer
Good observations on the show's portrayal of the BP Oil disaster. I was
thinknig that while watching the show, but that was a couple of months ago,
so I had forgotten that reaction. We'll probably try another episode now and
then when there's nothing else to watch, but these days, everything pales in
comparison to Breaking Bad.

 

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 I've only watched the first two episodes so far. My only
 criticisms were that the dialog seemed so frenetic, and so
 cute and witty and off-the-cuff articulate, that it seemed 
 unrealistic. Aaron Sorkin's The West Wing sucked me in
 and made me feel I was really in the White House.

Pretty much the same here, Rick. But even the super-snappy
dialogue in West Wing began to get to me after a while.

A couple years ago I was doing something in the kitchen
with the TV on. I hadn't been listening, but the audio of
a clip from some dramatic show that was being played
caught my attention. I hadn't heard it before--it wasn't
from West Wing--but I knew instantly it was a Sorkin
show because just the rhythms of the dialog were so
recognizable. Seems to me that has to be a flaw of some
sort.

 The Newsroom
 hasn't sucked me in yet. I felt I was watching something 
 unrealistic.

I've seen only the first episode and a clip from the final
episode of the first season, and it wasn't just the dialog
that was unrealistic. I wonder what folks who have actually
worked in the White House thought about West Wing in
terms of realism. I know nuttin' about working in the
White House, but I do know something about TV news 
operations, and there was stuff in the first episode and the
later clip from Newsroom that was seriously inauthentic.

Just for one thing, the station's reporting on the Gulf
disaster was portrayed wildly inaccurately: they supposedly
dug up the details of what had happened very shortly afterward
that *nobody had actually known for days and even weeks*.
And the script used that faux knowledge to beat up on other
news outlets for going with the drama of the missing crew
members instead of focusing on the environmental disaster
(which, in reality, wasn't yet evident to anybody at that 
point, but which the Newsroom folks had purportedly
uncovered within a matter of hours).

Not that the news media totally covered itself with glory
in its reporting on the Gulf spill, but this portrayal was
just below the belt, IMHO. Nobody who watched this episode
who hadn't followed the Gulf story pretty closely would
have any reason to suspect that the news media had not, in
fact, disgraced itself in the early days of the catastrophe
by not doing the necessary investigation.

Still pisses me off. If you're going to re-create a very
recent major event for a mass audience, you need to take
significant pains to do it accurately rather than
distorting it for the sake of the drama. Otherwise your
grossly mangled version is likely to become the common
wisdom.





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III

2013-08-27 Thread Rick Archer
 

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Yabut, the science on Breaking Bad isn't realistic! 

http://youtu.be/6ncwzVmE5IM 

Yabut, I don't think Breaking Bad is trying to be completely realistic. I
presume the Newsroom is.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Newsroom: Red Team III

2013-08-26 Thread Bhairitu
Turq's original post on Newsroom has yet to show up via email or it's 
stuck in the Yahoo Mail spam bin.  I've been watching the series but 
this may be the last episode I watch for awhile or until October.  
Comcast is encrypting Limited Basic starting October first rendering my 
computer TV tuners useless.  Of course Newsroom is HBO and my promo 
ran out last month so I'm paying Comcast's ridiculous full price for 
it.  So HBO gets canceled this week.  And towards the end of the month 
Comcast will be kicked out of this house entirely either being replaced 
by U-Verse or no TV except streaming. U-Verse's 12 month month promo 
will save me a lot of money over Comcast.  And I'm sure I'm not the only 
one in the area canceling Comcast.


My only problem with Newsroom is that I read a lot of political stuff 
over the week so a fictional show about it is not that compelling.  It's 
a well crafted show but I usually get around to watching the recording 
of the current episode later in the week. The news itself is a much 
better show.


I've become a fan of Ray Donovan which follows Dexter.  The latter 
has only three episodes left of the series.  Then there's the great 
Lennie James in the AMC series which follows Breaking Bad.  It's about 
a couple of bad cops trying to cover their tracks to their murder of 
another bad cop.  And of course Talking Bad where last night Samuel L 
Jackson and the actor who plays Saul were guests last night.  Talking 
Bad is a Breaking Bad fan show follow-up.



On 08/26/2013 08:21 AM, obbajeeba wrote:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
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 OK, I know that not many here enjoy this series as much
 as I do, but I'm the only person I have to please around
 here, and I love it.

What many? You blocked view, of most everyone's posting and refuse 
to converse with most anyone who actually is listening, but again, you 
are only pleasing yourself by typing it on the FFL Yahoo Group Message 
Board and you love it.
I read your post. I listen, but I am not the audience you wish to be 
concerned if I am listening (we do not hear type written word and 
thank god for that. Turq's voice droning over and over in a mono tone 
B flat.) to my music as I read your post to yourself, I guess, I am 
still listening.
Have a nice time and thank you for the tip of the series. Will check 
it out. Just wanted you to realize it may be best not to type drunk.


 I think it's tightly written, superbly acted and directed,
 and it occasionally makes some strong and valid criticisms
 of the News and how it works...and how it sometimes fails
 to work. All six of the previous episodes this season have
 been leading up to last night's episode, when a seemingly
 strong story they'd broadcast came crashing down with
 embarrassing-to-the-network and mass-resignations-required
 consequences. And IMO all on the team did a fine job in
 presenting this story in these six episodes.

 But -- again IMO -- all of this was preface. It was all
 leading up to a scene featuring the actress who had not
 been present so far in the season, delivering a speech
 that both Aaron Sorkin (as the writer) and her (as the
 actress delivering it) will be remembered for long after
 those who rag on The Newsroom are dead and forgotten.

 The owner of the fictional News network gets called out
 of a charity benefit she's dressed to the nines and paid
 a thousand bucks to attend because she wanted to meet
 Daniel Craig, who was a no-show. She's not in the best
 of moods, because she really *wanted* to meet Daniel
 Craig. And to top that off, she's stoned. Then she gets
 called into a room and told that she has to accept the
 resignations of her three most key employees at the
 network.

 That's the setup. The punchline is that this woman is
 being played by Jane Fonda, one of the greatest actresses
 any of us have ever been privileged to see onscreen.

 My bet is that she'll be nominated for another Emmy (she
 already was, for her work in last season) for this five
 minutes of screen time. And my hope is that she wins.
 This was as masterful a piece of acting as I have ever
 seen in my life. She literally brought tears to my eyes.

 Those of you who like to rag on The Newsroom can carry
 on now, carrying on. Me, I'll carry on enjoying great TV
 wherever I find it, no matter how many others don't like it.