Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, Everybody here knows you're the FFL troll. Your act is getting old. You can't reason on your own. So, you resort to adolescent behaviour. We'd like to know who is your guru these days? If none, I think you should find one to, at least, avoid becoming an internet troll.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ann, Your observation is excellent. It appears that for some people here think that being called a believer is uncool and, a worst, an Ebola case. As such, they avoid giving any logical evidence for their assertions in order to be undefined, ambiguous and definitely not known as a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
John is *finally* starting to get it. I'm treating him (and other idiots that believe as he does) the way *they* (believers in the invisible man in the sky) have been treating non-believers for thousands of years. Back in the Middle Ages, these thugs who believed in an invisible man actually

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Curtis, as jr. says, you guys say there is no God. Its not like it is ambiguous. M: But I don't say this. I say I see no reason to believe in

[FairfieldLife] The world before Google and internet

2014-10-19 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The world before Google and internet http://www.zamson.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/life-before-google-500x496.jpg http://www.zamson.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/life-before-google-500x496.jpg

[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas

2014-10-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nablusoss, crop circles are appearing on the continental US too. I feel it is a sign of the spiritual-but-not-religious generation of this new born millenarian generation coming along. A further indication of the coming of the Age of Enlightenment. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas

2014-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
Agreed Buck. There has been many Crop Circles in the USA, particularily in California during the past few years but they are rather poorly documented so far, hopefully this will change. If the one you post is a genuine Crop Circle is impossible to say from a picture. The straws has to be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
turq, the compassion IS the payoff. This is in response to your sentence: That would be more compassionate, after all. It's just that there is so little PAYOFF... On Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:41 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
You're both just loudmouthed, weak-minded louts, Typical of the Turq and a way of behaving he STILL carries with him from the time spent with his crazy guru.

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas

2014-10-19 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nablusoss, crop circles are appearing on the continental US too. I feel it is a sign of the spiritual-but-not-religious generation of this new born millenarian generation coming along. A further indication of the coming of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nablusoss, crop circles are appearing on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Maybe just stick with movie and tv reviews Barry. I think you'll be happier. That may cut down on the 25 to 30 posts per week you make just telling everyone how stupid they are. And how long have you been willing to put up with that so little payoff? Give that some thought, Barry, if

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas

2014-10-19 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 1:57 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You sound very much like Freddie, here, Barry. Here's the Lenz playbook: 1. Always go after the last one who disagreed with you. This is why jr. is finally coming in for some serious attention (abuse), from you. Lenz did this as a means of keeping his chumps in line, like playing

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, without serious therapy, it is the only behavior he knows. It was deeply programmed into him, by someone who I believe, was simply a criminal. As much as I dislike Barry's behavior, he didn't dream it up on his own. However, he is still responsible, for its consequences, and for his lack

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Ann, Your observation is excellent. It appears that for some people here think that being called a believer is uncool and, a worst, an Ebola case. As such, they avoid giving any logical evidence for their assertions in order to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : John is *finally* starting to get it. I'm treating him (and other idiots that believe as he does) the way *they* (believers in the invisible man in the sky) have been treating non-believers for thousands of years. Back in

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle Appears in Kansas

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nablusoss, crop circles are appearing on the continental US too. I feel it is a sign of the spiritual-but-not-religious generation of this new born

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You sound very much like Freddie, here, Barry. Here's the Lenz playbook: 1. Always go after the last one who disagreed with you. This is why jr. is finally coming in for some serious attention (abuse), from you.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynisting/files/2013/05/218863_1829061123648_1153920770_31704147_5306920_o.jpg http://freethoughtblogs.com/yemmynisting/files/2013/05/218863_1829061123648_1153920770_31704147_5306920_o.jpg --- sharelong60@... wrote : turq, the compassion IS the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kRLZxm3JXkw/VEO_nf_6CcI/A4o/yduhXKVm7A8/s710/epicurus_777.png https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kRLZxm3JXkw/VEO_nf_6CcI/A4o/yduhXKVm7A8/s710/epicurus_777.png --- fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Curtis, as jr. says, you guys say

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You are both missing my point. I am not anti-belief. I have a million of them that I have chosen, and some that I just absorbed without good reasons. I am anti bad reasons supporting beliefs. Tomorrow I will be in a class of 5th graders using blues songs to demonstrate how you have to pay

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Atheists do not have to define what they do not believe in. They take the definitions from the believers and find them wanting. Yours included, to the degree that you have spelled out what it is. On 10/18/2014 7:17 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As usual,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well said. I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular discussion have been indoctrinated by Maharishi not only with poor critical thinking skills, but with an actual false belief. That is, they believe that their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/19/2014 9:30 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well said. I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular discussion have been indoctrinated by Maharishi not only with poor critical thinking

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
All good points, Curtis. Yeah, the God thing is a real conundrum. Something in this universe likes the polarity of it; can't prove it/it is everywhere. Unlike any rational argument, I cannot justify God in any other way, except for a subtle *sense* of His and Her work. There is no way to prove

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Logical arguments about ultimates always contain a flaw. You can reverse the form of the argument to support atheism and if you do not see the flaw, it will seem equally valid, that is, that atheism is true. Now there are some atheists who definitely believe there is no god and they can be as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was taught that 24x7 pure awareness, constitutes the foundation of enlightenment. It still does.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Well said. I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Take Me For A Ride; A look inside Lenz's cult, and Barry's mind

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 3:36 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: yes, the Barster was holding back on us. He doesn't want to talk about it very much. Maybe the memories are just too painful. Or, maybe he never really was in the inner circle of the cult, just another student attending

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis, my grad Film prof at Univ of Maryland said the same thing to a Film criticism class: that we could say anything about the film we were discussing, as long as we could back it up with evidence from the film itself. I love that kind of exercise, got an A on my paper about Peter Weir's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
OK Jim, lets look at your claim to be in a higher state of consciousness with a special access to knowledge. This is your claim so I say, show me how I can distinguish your claim from that of a born again Christian who claims to have had the experience of being saved. You both are claiming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry is just testing memes to see what happens when they are activated. Wrong, Taxius. Barry is insulting people. Barry is cursing people's beliefs. Barry is denigrating people, distorting who they are, and treating them with incredible disrespect. We are not his guinea pigs. He, rather,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure. As I said, my enlightenment is not provable. I DO achieve everything that I desire. Enlightenment is the state of pure awareness, 24 x 7, universal synchronicity. It is a famous expression in the Gita, that an enlightened man sees darkness where the ignorant see light, and vice versa, so

[FairfieldLife] Chopra got it right!

2014-10-19 Thread wgm4u
Deepak Chopra: That’s one school of thought, but not what I learned. I had my spiritual apprenticeship with the Shankara- charya school in India, and my immediate mentor was Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, who brought Transcendental Meditation to the West. Maharishi was a disciple in turn of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for getting it. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness Logical

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread wgm4u
Turq-No one can *prove* the existence of God to you or anybody else! God can only be proven to yourself through your own *experience*. God is a subjective reality, and as MMY used to say, The proof is in the pudding, ie the taste!

[FairfieldLife] Identity of the Ripper remains a mystery!

2014-10-19 Thread salyavin808
As expected, the enigma will keep running for a while yet Claim that Jack the Ripper was Polish immigrant is wrong, experts say http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2798856/claim-jack-ripper-unmasked-dna-evidence-polish-immigrant-barber-wrong-say-experts.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I guess what I'm getting to is that basically we gotta get peaceful about not knowing anything for sure. Lately it's what works for me. M: I couldn't agree more. We do the best we can with what we got. Excellent post.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Now Has an Air Force

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/18/2014 6:29 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Over 5000 bombs and artillery shells with Sarin and Mustard gas found - so far. Now owned by ISIS - the compassionate, the merciful. /OT: No WMD were found in Iraq?// //http://tinyurl.com/pz5rean/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I must be prescient, having just said: I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular discussion have been indoctrinated by Maharishi not only with poor critical thinking skills, but with an actual false belief. That

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share, your comparison to watching movies is a good one, except that we are each watching a different movie, that none of the others have seen. So there is plenty of description and evidence, but it is largely meaningless to convey, as no one else has seen our movie. Glad you got an 'A' on the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, I was comparing what my film prof said to his class to what Curtis was saying to his class. I wasn't comparing anything to watching movies. As for something being feeble, how's your reading comprehension these days?! On Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:01 AM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
uh...Barry...you being a former TM teacher and all, Maharishi wasn't talking about subjective experience, constituting objective proof, for anyone else, only for the subject, and only in a life of enlightenment. The meme for waking state is to always doubt experience, and it is an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Some more Halloween entertainment

2014-10-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Yet another bagain priced Halloween film is The Possession of Michael King. This one has a decidedly FFL flair to it especially with the chatter here over the last couple of days. Michael King is an atheist who decides to make a homemade documentary to debunk religion and spirituality. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The assumption in your grad school film class, was that everyone had seen the same film, and so was evaluating the same film. I certainly hope your esteemed prof had seen the Weir film you wrote about! Not the case with our unique consciousnesses. Each of us is, in effect, watching a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, are there children reading these FFL comments?! I'm pretty sure people here have already made up their minds about the efficacy or harm of aspirin! As I've said many times here in true FFL redundant fashion, I don't evaluate states of consciousness of others. I go more by how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra got it right!

2014-10-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Too bad Marshy was a proven liar and his disciple Deepak, while making a load of money has become his very own brand of spiritual huckster From: wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 11:13 AM Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Identity of the Ripper remains a mystery!

2014-10-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
When the experts can say he DID put the decimal in the wrong place instead of he MAY have, then we should pay attention. Also find out if any of the other folks who make money off the mystery paid the experts to find doubt in the research. From: salyavin808

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sure. As I said, my enlightenment is not provable. M: Provable is one thing. Not being able to demonstrate anything that you would need to assume a higher states model is another. I hear music in my mind. That is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Barry is just testing memes to see what happens when they are activated. Wrong, Taxius. Barry is insulting people. Barry is cursing people's beliefs. Barry is denigrating people, distorting who they are, and treating

Re: [FairfieldLife] The world before Google and internet

2014-10-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
And drones were something a queen bee kept around for sex. On 10/19/2014 02:49 AM, blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The world before Google and internet http://www.zamson.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/life-before-google-500x496.jpg

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Fleetwood, are there children reading these FFL comments?! That made me laugh, but not why you think. On the other hand, who knows who you tell this stuff to? For all I know, you were passing out flyers, at the nursery

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, Excellent observation of Barry's behavior here on this forum. IOW, he's become the self-proclaimed troll here. But I'm not sure if he really knows what he's doing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, Calm down. You're hallucinating or maybe you're delusional. I never said anything that you think I may have said. I merely said that you review the Kalam Cosmological Argument. You never responded to me about what you think about it. It was Curtis who responded about his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chopra got it right!

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
MMY said that the ethical, religious, exercise-full life-style of a law-abiding householder in any culture was enough to be counted as simultaneously practicing the other limbs of Yoga that weren't directly addressed by TM practice. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Now Has an Air Force

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Aren't most of those so old that they are as dangerous for the handlers as for the intended targets? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Good points Willy. Over 5000 bombs and artillery shells with Sarin and Mustard gas found - so far. Now owned by ISIS -

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Free Excerpt

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Are you suggesting that people on this forum didn't already realize all these things? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : A little excerpt from a recent TM Free post: Fairfield residents have been dragging their feet around suicide prevention for years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
The lurking reporters will have a hard time trying to figure out how much the hate-posts from the Turq are leftovers from his time with his Lentz-guru and how much is legitimate criticism of the TMO which he left. or as some claim; was kicked out of, more than 40 years ago. Journalism was never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks - No, he is emulating Lenz, without thinking it through. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Fleetwood, Excellent observation of Barry's behavior here on this forum. IOW, he's become the self-proclaimed troll here. But I'm not sure if he really knows what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
e-n-a-b-l-e-r. Hadn't thought about that angle. Also likes to idealize Barry, and participate vicariously in his adventures. LOL - Your hilarious description of the nephew reminds me of Will Farrell's kids, in Talladega Nights. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No, people become insulted. A person saying x might be interpreted by y as an insult, but interpreted by z as a helpful hint. Being insulted is a response. What to some might seem a pox on their cherished tradition others might see as a reasonable evaluation of idiotic beliefs, or even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There is nothing to prove, and nothing to demonstrate for you, Curtis. enjoy your waking state shudder. PS Deep sleep does nothing to interrupt or destroy pure awareness. Yes, I sleep very, very deeply, with pure awareness accompanying it all. Dreams too. It is not the same as thinking, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Now Has an Air Force

2014-10-19 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Go read the NYT article. It is a very good piece of writing that discloses the testimony of numerous soldiers chemically exposed while trying to decommission some of those WMD's. Most of what was found was mustard gas but some was Sarin or VX gas. Many of the dual-mix chemicals in the canisters

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Free Excerpt

2014-10-19 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
nope - its just a nice little summary of the shuck and jive tactics of the Movement on all subjects not just suicide. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:52

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wasn't sure before, but you have clarified for me, that you are an enabler, of Barry's abusive behavior. There is nothing remotely helpful, or hinting, at cursing and insulting someone else, distorting their values and ideas. You really need to step back, and do a reality check. Barry is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : There is nothing to prove, and nothing to demonstrate for you, Curtis. enjoy your waking state shudder. M: As I'm quite sure you enjoy too Jim. You can't resist overplaying your hand can ya. The whole story would play so

[FairfieldLife] Re: ISIS Now Has an Air Force

2014-10-19 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And now has to deal with them. As I said, the aged WMDs are at least as dangerous to the handlers as to the intended targets. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Go read the NYT article. It is a very good piece of writing that discloses the testimony of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No, people become insulted. A person saying x might be interpreted by y as an insult, but interpreted by z as a helpful hint. Being insulted is a response. What to some might seem a pox on their cherished tradition others might

[FairfieldLife] Take a Look

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Are there any creatures more incredible, more moving, more astounding than elephants? I think not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mAAQO3UdE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mAAQO3UdE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Identity of the Ripper remains a mystery!

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/19/2014 10:24 AM, salyavin808 wrote: As expected, the enigma will keep running for a while yet So, let's review what we know, for sure: * /The ghastly events took place from August to November 1888 in London. / Maybe Jack returned to his place of origin in the U.S.A. where he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Identity of the Ripper remains a mystery!

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/19/2014 11:34 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: When the experts can say he DID put the decimal in the wrong place instead of he MAY have, then we should pay attention. Also find out if any of the other folks who make money off the mystery paid the experts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Take a Look

2014-10-19 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Traveling up Kerala I wished I had kept my camera handy because we drove right past an elephant used to clear trees where they were replacing the two lane let's play chicken highway with a freeway. On 10/19/2014 02:18 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Are there any creatures

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry's preferred definition of God appears to be an old man with a beard who resides above, and harshly judges people. He likes this characterization because he feels it is easier to lampoon. And he's been a roll lately. A target rich environment of his own making. No, it doesn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Take a Look

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Like. On 10/19/2014 4:18 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Are there any creatures more incredible, more moving, more astounding than elephants? I think not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_mAAQO3UdE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread feste37
Fleet is right. Barry is capable of making decent posts but his recent efforts are no more than juvenile trolling. I don't know what he gets out of it. I read the Guardian a lot and they have a comments section. Sometimes moderators remove comments that don't follow Guardian guidelines. One of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, you have picked up this rather annoying habit, I presume, from Michael, that every discussion must have an anti TM component to it, and preferably impugn MMY in some way. You are unaware of this, obviously, because most of your posts are rote responses with a small, fill in the blank.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God

2014-10-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Very nice piece Jim, and mirrors my own feelings on the subject. There is no Crusader mentality here regarding the belief in God, or a higher power, as some here would like to imagine. Of course in the greater world, this is not the case, but we are having a discussion here, and it is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/19/2014 4:36 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barry's preferred definition of God appears to be an old man with a beard who resides above, and harshly judges people. He likes this characterization because he feels it is easier to lampoon. And he's been a roll lately.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/19/2014 4:55 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Barry, you have picked up this rather annoying habit, I presume, from Michael, that every discussion must have an anti TM component to it, and preferably impugn MMY in some way. You are unaware of this, obviously,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
maybe if we say it enough, Barry will get. then again, maybe not. maybe there is a different agenda at work here, this so called testing memes aren't we lucky. why not call it what it is, a twenty year experiment of pushing other people's buttons to see what rise one can get.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
dang Barry, can you not read? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I must be prescient, having just said: I honestly think that a large part of the problem is that many of the players on the Believer side of this particular discussion have been indoctrinated by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread wgm4u
Turq- Subjective experience only verifies subjective proof, INITIALLY, but eventually, what we find, if the theory bears out, is that the objective World is nothing BUT the subjective World as well. It's a dichotomy that only experience can sort outall is one. The relative World is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
SHUT THE FUCK UP. On 10/19/2014 8:40 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Did you shove a burr up your ass and not realize it? Bend over and have a look before you do anything else, I promise you might feel better if you do. Then we might all be spared the excrement you think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread wgm4u
Fleet is right. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : uh...Barry...you being a former TM teacher and all, Maharishi wasn't talking about subjective experience, constituting objective proof, for anyone else, only for the subject, and only in a life of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/19/2014 8:11 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, without serious therapy, it is the only behavior he knows. It was deeply programmed into him, by someone who I believe, was simply a criminal. As much as I dislike Barry's behavior, he didn't dream it up on his

[FairfieldLife] Indian City Becomes First Vegetarian City in the World

2014-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008
by Sarah Von Alt - Oct 8, 2014 Worldcrunch http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/in-india-the-world-039-s-first-vegetarian-city/india-palitana-food-meat-fish-gujarat/c3s17132/#.VDL6_fldXm7 reports a historic change in Palitana, an Indian city, which has become the first all-vegetarian

[FairfieldLife] Belief and Transcendentalism

2014-10-19 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yup, Fleet and Wgm4u are right. We Transcendentalists don't have to be believers, We simply are knowers by virtue of experience. I ain't no true- believer, I know what I know by experience. I yam what I yam. Transcendentalism meditation beliefs? Hah. Who you talking about? Not me. We

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 20-Oct-14 00:15:08 UTC

2014-10-19 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 10/18/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 10/25/14 00:00:00 247 messages as of (UTC) 10/19/14 23:59:40 38 fleetwood_macncheese 37 awoelflebater 33 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 25 steve.sundur 18 TurquoiseBee turquoiseb 17

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. But he just gave me a lot of song and dance about his opinions without providing the evidence for his arguments. Can you give us a solid argument with evidence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. M: My evidence was to point out that the assumption is not necessarily so, especially at the scales of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks, Steve - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Very nice piece Jim, and mirrors my own feelings on the subject. There is no Crusader mentality here regarding the belief in God, or a higher power, as some here would like to imagine. Of course in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Steve, it is Lenz. Almost like he is channeling him. Lenz famously denigrated and mocked any spiritual or religious belief, save his own, which changed constantly, to keep his dweebs off balance. Barry is more about opposition and confusion, but he is not really clear on why he does it, hasn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You continue to avoid jr's question, due to weak reasoning. Obviously none of us were around even a hundred years ago. Nonetheless, your argument that you don't know cause you weren't there (as time and space were getting their act together), is not a very good one. Using this weak logic,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You continue to avoid jr's question, due to weak reasoning. Obviously none of us were around even a hundred years ago. Nonetheless, your argument that you don't know cause you weren't there (as time and space were getting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Steve, it is Lenz. Almost like he is channeling him. Lenz famously denigrated and mocked any spiritual or religious belief, save his own, which changed constantly, to keep his dweebs off balance. Barry is more about

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, Lenz was fucked up, no doubt about it, but I question that he aligned himself with the 'bad guys'. Despite confusion about it, and longstanding stories, there really are not any 'bad guys' who can produce any results worth noting, in the average person, with a healthy mind. Lenz was a

[FairfieldLife] Speed of Ignorance -- Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread Duveyoung
This piece is just so wonderfully packed with facts that tickle the ribs of my philosophy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTvcpdfGUtQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTvcpdfGUtQ

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
x exists x does not exist I do not know what the phrase 'begins to exist' means, especially in regard to the universe as a whole. If x were an auto-mobile, perhaps one could say that when it was partially assembled, it began to exist, but all the components of that were manufactured prior

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Xeno, Are you saying that the human mind would not be able to fathom the meaning of begins to exist? If that is so, how is it possible for you to begin and end a project at work or at home? But we know that NASA has been able to send the Curiosity rover to Mars which is a very high

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