[FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-17 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I have been following the excellent comments on this topic with delight. I loved this book, especially where it helped me draw my own belief lines by disagreeing with it. Overall Sam's book is a huge step in opening up the dialogue for people who are fans of altered states but not into the

[FairfieldLife] Re: My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-17 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Yay, Curtis chimes in! M: Hey man, thanks for the greeting. I'm still a fan of silence -- that is: states of lesser excitation. Not sure why M: Cuz we are junkies brother. Pure and simple conditioning, synaptic

Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-17 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I have been following the excellent comments on

Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-17 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Looks like about a 5 shot Americano rap. Tried a Starbuck's Clover yet? ;-) M: Funny. I have Internet at home where my instruments live so I don't hang out at coffee shops. In between computer time I am very noisy! Italian Bialetti

Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Curtis writes (in part): I figure I am as enlightened as I need to be to pursue my own goals and the self chosen purpose for my life. Hard to get me excited with promises of more inside. Whatever internal state I have

Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC

2014-09-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
L: Research will furnish answers, I am sure, but in the meantime, anyone who says that TM leads to the same place as mindfulness and concentration is full of it... M: You bring up a valid point about the difference between subjective experience and research. I guess the next question would be

Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry, Thanks for taking the time to high five me on points we shared and showing me where you may be drawing different lines. I especially appreciated how your articulated the creative flow state as it applies to writing. I hadn't thought of it that way but now I see it. I thought it would

Re: [FairfieldLife] thoughts on samskaras and enlightenment - CC to UC

2014-09-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Curtis, would you be comfortable saying the same words as Nisargadatta below? Nisargadatta: You think you are coming and going, passing through various states and moods. M: Bit of a condescending start, but OK. N: I

Re: [FairfieldLife] My take on Waking Up by Sam Harris

2014-09-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : M: I did miss what you wrote before, so thanks for repeating yourself a bit. I always enjoy your nature connection writing. I still have a bit of the meditation junky in my in that I can enjoy 15 minutes just sitting in silence

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: My experiences of higher states of consciousness

2014-09-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Run Forrest, Run! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote : Forwarded from: David Orme-Johnson davidoj@... mailto:davidoj@... Date: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 2:36 PM Subject: My experiences of higher states of consciousness Dear Colleagues, Here is my second “research”

Re: [FairfieldLife] Photo: ShShRSh!

2014-09-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wait, is that a Kardashian or one of the Jenners? I can never keep them straight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Sri Sri Ravi Shankar On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:24 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: My experiences of higher states of consciousness

2014-09-20 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Tragicomedy in one scene: One Hyperbole Over the Line Rhoda darling did I tell about eating my cereal this morning. You told me yesterday David, and the day before and the day before. No but today it was even more amazing! At first the milk and organic blueberry pomegranate enhanced,seasonal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Photo: ShShRSh!

2014-09-20 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Wait, is that a Kardashian or one of the Jenners? I can never keep them straight. All those Hindus look alike, right? No, just narcissists who commoditize their

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-27 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: I would like to use this post as a jumping off point in my fascination with this announcement. It reveals a lot about the nature of this kind of subjectively gained knowledge claim. How does Nabbie (or any of us) make a distinction between such claims? As far as I know Nabbie has never

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-27 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: I appreciate your taking it in the spirit intended Jim. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Hey Curtis - no offense taken. Quite a good piece. I 'll just add a few things: 1. Yes, the funny thing is that despite a very close relationship with Guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was This Already Posted?

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: That was an excellent article. It nails one of the most destructive aspects of what I call the prison of specialness in the movement. Sidha means perfection. Ideal society, perfect health, invincibility, immortality, the list of unwarranted superlatives goes on and on. All in the cause of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Even though you did not adress this to me I appreciate your question. It's important because being able to distinguish is absolutely crucial on all levels of life. It simply boils down to intuition. It can't be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Um, I think I channeled too. --- Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You nailed it. And it gets even worse from within waking state itself. Some people who have a peculiar kind of stroke that makes them blind are unaware that this has happened because their mind delivers a detailed representation of the outside world immediately. It is so compelling that it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry email to John sent on Sunday

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rick's challenge to the no talk rule of the closed dysfunctional family in the movement shines light on what they might prefer was not evaluated by people who are not insiders. He has broken the spell of labeling all critical discussion as negativity. Most of the discussions we have here would

[FairfieldLife] Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Here is the Website with the invitation: 30th November | George Washington Memorial Theater http://30thnovember.com/ 30th November | George Washington Memorial Theater http://30thnovember.com/ November 30th 2014 11:00am – 4:00pm Please join us for “The Pervasive Influence of Personalities

[FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My interest could easily be derailed by anyone paying me almost any amount of money to perform...but is IS very close and I would like to shake Jerry's hand... I am going to call Jerry before I commit. He is open to people asking him about iit and I would love to know why he is putting his own

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 9/28/2014 1:42 PM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: My interest could easily be derailed by anyone paying me almost any amount of money to perform...but is IS very close and I would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It will be live streamed on the Website. I just heard a leak that the message will include an instruction for everyone to change their mantra to Verizon Namah. Also when coming out of meditation it is now OK to send and receive text messages as long as you are a part of the Verizon network

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : If you performed Son House at the meeting that might be really interesting. If you did perform and got called for an encore, I would suggest Crossroads by Robert Johnson.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-29 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Its Jerry's stamp of approval on this that is really generating such interest - his affiliation is giving the Movement the heebie jeebies M: True Dat! Much though the power structure hates it, Jerry was the voice of sanity for a

Re: [FairfieldLife] a right to privacy

2014-09-29 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Nicely said Buck, you really nailed it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : I found Haglin's letter reassuring. I was looking for guidance about Hammond's channeling meeting. Everyone was last week when it came out. Most things shared and sent around the

[FairfieldLife] Nov 30th clarificatioins from an insider

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: I invited one of the insiders to let me post some of his responses to our discussions here, respecting his desire to remain anonymous. I'll just cut and paste it below: Regarding FFL and other chat groups, 2 big misperceptions out there are: 1) The presentation is somehow about the TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : And in the main ring, out announcer, ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce to you...The Great Curtis. The only announcer EVER who can broadcast

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : (snip Edg's charitable post, thank brother.) D: I expect that either you, nor Curtis have ANY TICKETS TO THE BALCONY SEATING OR THE ORCHESTRA SEATING, or the wherewithal to get tickets, or even get to the venue. M: I can

Re: [FairfieldLife] a right to privacy

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : this ain't no aveenu malkanu Dan. this is just a minor flap. (or at least it was) (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : (snip Edg's charitable post, thank brother.) D: I expect that either you, nor

Re: [FairfieldLife] a right to privacy

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : this ain't no aveenu malkanu Dan. this is just a minor flap. (or at least it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Link to the invitation for Nov 30th

2014-09-30 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am not using a gold color, it is black on my screen. It must be your browser or email reader. No need to continue, we have both shown up here as we choose and I have said what I wanted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!

2014-10-07 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow, people who are NOT dead, have memories! Who knew. This is full of medical misunderstandings about brain functions and what physical death entails. These Doctors should be ashamed of themselves for such an absurd extrapolation from the facts. At the simplest level we have two things:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Scientific proof we survive death!

2014-10-07 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Did you read the article? M:yes I did. The medical profession has always claimed that once the heart stops beating then brain shutdown follows almost immediately. M: This is a medical fallacy. Real death takes a while and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Definitely Not For Buck

2014-10-08 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks Ann. Looks like Dennis and I have some shared passions. My favorite is the woman Christ. That one is deep. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : More for Mac or Curtis or for those who enjoy photography, which is a kind of art. There are some good ones here,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Have you ever thought that atheism is also a belief-- and an unreasonable one at that? M: Couldn't help overhearing... Atheism is not a belief because it is not a positive assertion that there is no God. It is the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Predictably, this conversation interested me Steve... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : S: Is this really the broad statement on which an atheist makes his case.? M: I don't know why you would think that. The paradox of prayer he is pointing out is as relevant to

[FairfieldLife] Re: All those in favor of God say Aye!'

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I really enjoyed that ride Edg! Thanks for putting in so F'n effort my friend. It payed off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Aye! I can say aye, because I have a definition for the word, god, with which my intellect can bat aside most of the usual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I don't believe in the God, that the atheists don't believe in, either. Who the fuck would want to? Theirs is a cultural God, or philosophical God, or logical God. The atheists must define, that which they do not believe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Curtis, My responses are shown in red below: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Have you ever thought that atheism is also a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Curtis, if I have a prayer, and I may silently say this on occasion, Thy will be done M: Could it be otherwise if there is a God? What would be its purpose, like saying water please be wet. He is God, why the nudge? S: If it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Curtis, as jr. says, you guys say there is no God. Its not like it is ambiguous. M: But I don't say this. I say I see no reason to believe in one. There is a huge difference between these statements. I am amazed that I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
n FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : J: Er, Curtis, you are mistaking your failure, for certainty M: I have no certainty and don't buy yours. J: And being very arrogant about it. M: I am the on saying I do not KNOW the creator of the universe. You are saying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Barry, Have you ever thought that atheism is also a belief-- and an unreasonable one at

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
-In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : As long as you are on the path to know the creator of the universe, as you put it, I am OK with that. I understand that your previous experiences with religion and TM, may have created a confusing concept of God, that you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Curtis, you probably don't realize how enjoyable it is to have you participating in any discussion here. M: Back atchya bro. Nice to have a chance to rap. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You are both missing my point. I am not anti-belief. I have a million of them that I have chosen, and some that I just absorbed without good reasons. I am anti bad reasons supporting beliefs. Tomorrow I will be in a class of 5th graders using blues songs to demonstrate how you have to pay

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
OK Jim, lets look at your claim to be in a higher state of consciousness with a special access to knowledge. This is your claim so I say, show me how I can distinguish your claim from that of a born again Christian who claims to have had the experience of being saved. You both are claiming

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I guess what I'm getting to is that basically we gotta get peaceful about not knowing anything for sure. Lately it's what works for me. M: I couldn't agree more. We do the best we can with what we got. Excellent post.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sure. As I said, my enlightenment is not provable. M: Provable is one thing. Not being able to demonstrate anything that you would need to assume a higher states model is another. I hear music in my mind. That is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Billy Graham: America is Just as Wicked...

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : There is nothing to prove, and nothing to demonstrate for you, Curtis. enjoy your waking state shudder. M: As I'm quite sure you enjoy too Jim. You can't resist overplaying your hand can ya. The whole story would play so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, I have asked Curtis about his support or evidence for disagreeing with the statements in the Kalam Cosmological Argument. M: My evidence was to point out that the assumption is not necessarily so, especially at the scales of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-19 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : You continue to avoid jr's question, due to weak reasoning. Obviously none of us were around even a hundred years ago. Nonetheless, your argument that you don't know cause you weren't there (as time and space were getting

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-20 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This was a particularly nasty trollish comment Jim. I will let most of it ride as an indictment of your character. But I will correct this: I am not an outsider in my community. I am a leader in the arts in education movement and just last week addressed 19 Principals in one of my school

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-20 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Or, that you're pulling a Curtis on us. M: It has not gone unnoticed that these little snipes are in place of your actually refuting what I wrote reasonably. It was you who proposed that the silly syllogism was a proof for God that would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-20 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I certainly wouldn't have expected you to agree, Curtis, but your response hasn't changed my assessment of your motives. Sorry. M: I didn't realize that this was a discussion of motives. OK, Well in that case I think your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/20/2014 11:43 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Xeno, I'm flabbergasted at the statements you just said. In the physical existence of human beings here on earth, everyone has to have a mother

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : both of you far less than raging successes in the world. M: This often repeated idea is a key to understanding you Jim. I think it lies at the root of your need to present yourself in a ridiculously inflated way You are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It's such a delight to read something written by someone who can still think, Curtis. Thanks. The very IDEA that someone could consider Robin Carlsen or Jim Flanegin or John R rational astounds me. Thanks bro but I think

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: I hope you don't mind me weighing in,this was a particularly thought provoking post. I too am an amateur philosopher. But I am not sure philosophy is the right discipline to answer your question from, except to enhance the discussion of how could we know? Here is the section you quite

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I enjoyed your response till you went its all about Barry on my ass Richard. I am not on board with your use of the term inference and its validity in gaining knowledge on its own. It is one of the pieces of the epistemological puzzle and fraught with issues. Nor do I accept that the claim of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I just had a lunch of veggies and salmon so maybe my brain is a little more up to respond. Maybe! Definitely not as good as Sam Harris (-: Anyway, my questions are: 1. how do we know that we know? Which is kind of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Very, very nice. For somewhat obvious cafe- and waitress-related reasons, I liked your answer to question #2 the best, but all were wonderful. That is from Hard Luck Shoes so you may already know that we never find out. My guess is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I may not respond point by point Ann. You and I have our clear channel. I think we get each other. I am more of a one one one poster here. Steve nailed me recently. He said I respond to everyone in sympathetic response to how they respond to me. That was a typical insightful naildown from my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-21 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, inmadison@... wrote : Yes you got the spirit of my thoughts, and thanks for chiming in.The heart of it was this sentence: ' I include anything that is physical/material, or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm sure Ann appreciates your straightening her out about me Jim. She was making the mistake of trusting her own impression, but now has the enlightened perspective from you on my dark motives and inner thoughts. At first I wondered how you could know about my inner feelings or whether or not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I have no problem with your friendship with Ann - As she responded, she suspects some of what I said is accurate, M: That would require her to believe that you know my feelings when reading posts or whether or not I even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That was a great read, thanks! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I think you hit on something here I never considered. Social interaction. I do not think there is any objective measure by which one considers such experiences valuable. There are certain things I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : D: Om No, MJ you misrepresent me here. I likened you and the nature of your extreme hate M: OK, he speaks his opinions about the movement freely here... D: and behavior to be like Hamas M: His behavior is to speak his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Buck is right. The hate MJ represents is on the same level of extremity as any terrorrist. The only difference is he hasn't crossed the line into violence, yet. M: Having some trouble with Mr. Distinctions today are we?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible thing.

2014-10-24 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Ditto, Spiritually, people should speak the sweet truth. Saha Nav, satyam bruyat, priyam bruyat speak the truth, speak sweetly na bruyat satyam apriyam | don't speak truth in an unloving way priyam ca

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-24 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I might add: As far as we know. Buck is right. The hate MJ represents is on the same level of extremity as any terrorrist. The only difference is he hasn't crossed the line into violence, yet. M: How fragile your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Curtis and Barry's message is always the same, My life sucks, M: Lemme just stop you here. This is a boldfaced lie Jim and you know it. Out of the thousands of posts from us I challenge you to find ONE that says this. Both

[FairfieldLife] Re: Apocalypse Porn

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What if there were a type of fiction that -- intentionally -- catered to believers in religious fantasies that predict a coming apocalypse that (according to their dogma) will kill all but the most faithful believers? What would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
-In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What's amazing is that Curtis, the Turq and MJ doesn't seem to have anything better to do. It's as if this beautiful distraction is that little thing that gives meaning to otherwise empty lives. M: Do tell Nabbie. What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : For some unknown reason you used to put videos on youtube of your performance which explains my impression. If you do no longer feel they are representative that's Ok, we all move on. Are they still there or did you wisely

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Share I appreciate your being sweet here but honestly I have no problem with Nabbie's opinion of my work. I am proud of any video or CD of me no matter how long ago it was. I am a life long work in progress with my music like all artists. I think it is perfectly valid for Nabbie to form an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If you like to, or have to, perform for tourists on street-corners that's fine with me. But listening to the videos you posted on youtube I strongly object to your using the word art. Call it anything you like but not art.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Haha, horrible agreed. But divine compared to the stuff Curtis posted. M:Seeing such a beautiful moment as horrible speaks volumes about your taste Nabbie. You should try singing outside at volume for hours, you might

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Curtis, I just think that FFL would be way more enjoyable if people could disagree and or refute each other without getting personal in a nasty way. That's all. M: I agree but my bar is lower. I want Jim and Nabbie to stop lying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Our disagreement boils down to the word art. M: We are not disagreeing, you just don't understand what it means. It is a field of human activity, it is not a statement of value. I get hired as a teaching artist in schools

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I still object to you demand to be taken seriously music-wise. M: I never demand anyone to take me seriously music-wise. I am satisfied and my paying customers are satisfied, that is good enough for me. N: But

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I am able to play a bit more enthusiastically these days than the 4 dead guys you listed however. We know they are dead so that goes without saying. Hopefully you are not so out of touch with reality as you come across

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Nabby, this has been a pointless criticism. If you are a critic, you can verbally describe the differences between Curtis and other musicians as regards style, technique and so forth; if you can't do that, you are not even a critic.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-25 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: Thanks for the well intentioned advice Nabs. I'll take it to heart. What I am getting from you is that when I am singing outside without a mike to an audience many meters away, I should sound more like a guy sitting in the corner of a quiet recording room inches from a mike. And when I am

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-26 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The noise you produce was even worse when playing inside a room with a microphone in a video you probably deleted. For good reasons. M: I haven't deleted any videos but then I don't post all of the ones of me. My two CDs

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-26 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I respect you for making a living from being independent. What I object to is your insistence again and again on using the words art and artist. You must have some nerve to use those words about yourself and the stuff you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amateur Art

2014-10-26 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The fact that you did this pre computer this way makes takes this from amazing to F'n magic Edg. I had admired your art before but somehow knowing the process makes it richer. Incomprehensible to the visual arts impaired like me. Glad you posted his. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope's Take on Evolution

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Ann, what you say makes sense. Sal hasn't much more of clue about the origins of life than anyone else. He has his own theory which may, or may not be correct, or likely, elements of which may be correct He just likes to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You are right, different instruments obviously need different approaches to training. My suggestion was a hint only, to sit down and listen to one note at the time which should be done regardless of instrument and would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your points, thanks for making them, and agree with them as factors in what is preserved in recorded music, especially what is captured by videos and then compressed on Youtube. But I am not sure this level of acoustic reproduction is what Nabbie is objecting to in my music. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
At least you can avoid purple to fit in. I've had booking agents tell me that my act is a harder sell because I am white! Skin melanin as artistic street cred, who knew? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : When I was trying to make a living doing art, I met

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Probably depends on what ecological niche you occupy. You were much more diverse in your talents than I am musically, so your opportunities would be so different. My stubbornness to only play acoustic blues as a solo act kinda forced me into certain directions to make it work. I rely on a few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Wow Richard, those are gorgeous. I'll bet in print they are even better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 10/27/2014 12:38 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for clearing that up. All beautiful and I guess if I had any smarts I would have noticed the style difference. Did you take the cloudy shot in black and white or desaturate it in Photoshop? I always wonder which is better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's what Cartier-Bresson said of his work during numerous interviews. Ofcourse his work is artistic, he simply had other and higher ideas about what art is, ideas he tried to fulfill late in life, nothing of which came

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
M: I feel lucky that I was able to make the jump into educational entertainment because, like you, I have musician friends still banging the club circuit and living off of girlfriends and wives. In many ways I should thank Maharishi because it was because of the presentation skills I developed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Hating Turq and Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-28 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Great story. I think that is why I have gravitated toward groups of teaching artists in the last 7 years. They not only can perform or create art, but they enjoy discussing it. It is like they have both sides of their brain hooked up. I'm sure you have been around musicians with such an

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