subject:"\[FairfieldLife\] Beyond"

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Standard Cosmological Model

2018-04-29 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Although this video was published in 2015, this is the first time that I've 
seen this.  Dr. Leonard Susskind was apparently trying out his new ideas about 
cosmology.  It may take a few more years to find out how his ideas will be 
accepted by the scientific community.  Does anyone have any feedback about 
Susskind's proposal?

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Planck, John Hagelin on Entanglements, Worm Holes and the Brain

2016-01-29 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Not physical, as if birth and death are not physical? Souls are proly just 
measurable in experience by tools at this point such as nervous systems at less 
than the planck but I feel based on my own research and data that even the 
physical scientific community will evolve and find that their souls are 
entangled existing in or as a simultaneity both here embodied in a portion 
experiencing life in this realm as mortal dimension while also (simultaneously) 
existing in some larger portion at the same moment elsewhere. Like an over-soul 
dipping its toe in to life using the life of a human nervous system. Is 
marvelous really.  Physical scientists will like it when they find it.  Even 
Hagelin in his mortal coil as he sits with it more.  -JaiGuruYou
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug,
 

 Physicists are in the business of studying natural phenomena and typically 
stay away from philosophical and spiritual arguments.  But as they delve deeper 
into the subatomic particles, they are realizing that they may not have the 
technology to measure particles near or below the Planck length.  The best 
thing that they have now is to have the String Theory or variation thereof to 
explain the theoretical dynamics of the immeasurable realm.
 

 But Hagelin  is now carrying the torch that MMY was trying to prove to the 
world-- that the world is based on consciousness.  He may or may not succeed in 
this endeavor.  IMO, conservative physicists will most likely make a statement 
saying that particles below a certain length cannot be measured and thus are 
out of bounds for further study to uphold the scientific method.
 

 As discussed in the video, scientists have made similar statements in the 
study of quantum entanglements.  Specifically,they are trying to uphold 
Einstein's theory that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.  As 
such, they are saying that entangled particles cannot be used to send messages 
across vast distances in the universe.  But, at the same time, they are saying 
that entangled particles simultaneously affect each other over vast distances 
in the universe.


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good video, jr. Thanks. 

 But, how does physics explain what evidently is of a divine construct as 
soul(s) in the life of human beings? Does physics have much to say about the 
incarnational implications of such energetic light-body structure within the 
human form as souls? What does physics say of Divine virtues in energetic 
vector, such as love exhibited as given and experienced?
 

 Souls, jivans, or virtues as vibrational form.. these kind of larger 
spirituality seems a little different than just calculating saying a Pure 
Consciousness as Transcendental Consciousness is the Unified Field.
 

 The Upanishads say quite a lot about Souls in life. TM and Maharishi had not 
much to say about souls. What does physics navigate about this practical aspect 
of imperishable souls in life, while we have life to live? Do physicists talk 
more particularly about this, or do they not have much experience with it? Just 
wondering, -JaiGuruYou

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This is a fairly new presentation with updates on the current developments in 
physics.  I'm not sure if the audience actually understood what he was 
saying--or even the watchers of this video.
 

 Entanglement, Space-Time Wormholes, and the Brain - John Hagelin 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk
 
 Entanglement, Space-Time Wormholes, and the Brain -... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk We present an extraordinary 
breakthrough from String theory that explains the “spooky action-at-a-distance” 
nature of quantum entanglement, and ties this lon...


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvVDYQoGWyk 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread salyavin808


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :



Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread nablusoss1008

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 

 Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he 
found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded 
people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it 
would broaden your vision.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically an 
alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without 
seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame 
jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.
 

Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread salyavin808

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he
found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded
people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it
would broaden your vision.

It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which
there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast
majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of
it.

If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the
other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you
braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe
psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start
regretting it.

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out.

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread nablusoss1008


 His beer-belly is the only result of his tantra practise :-) Did you know he 
used to call himself uncle-tantra ? HaHa, what a clown.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote :

 Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically 
an alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without 
seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame 
jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.
 

Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.
 

Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them. 

 

 Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread nablusoss1008

Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.
 

 Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread nablusoss1008

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It is OK, Ann. When Barry is accused of being sadistic, he takes it to heart. 
He enjoys hurting others, as his own inner pain never stops. 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.
 

Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them. 

 

 Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

LOL - last words on his deathbed, I hate you all 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.
 

 Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread salyavin808

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?

Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I
said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain
diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided
even if it's only your health you care about.

I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I
wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any
grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to
respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers
become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that
way and very early on in society. Is India that different?

Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely
casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It is a very strange thing, how we revere our bodies, and not others. I was
watching the odd crime show (Alaska State Troopers, I think), and the cops were
pulling a severed leg out of a trash bag. All of us watching were completely
horrified. Then it turned our to be the leg of a bear, and we all relaxed a
bit. Note: I am not making the case for modifying our diet!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?

Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely
casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread nablusoss1008

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread nablusoss1008

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily
available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by
writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?

Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely
casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Wow, turq! A new low for FFL...

  From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
   
    From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :



Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them. 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yep. We have all moved on with our lives. But Barry cozied up to a sociopath, 
and has not yet recovered. So as the rest of us make our way, sharing our 
successes, regarding career, family, and friends, all this putz can do, is 
slump down in his seat, uncork a bottle, and shout fuck you.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :

 Wow, turq! A new low for FFL...
 

 From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
 
 
   
 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 


 Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

 

 Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
 

 I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
 

 But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual 
practise.
 

Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an 
acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after 
killing them.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread salyavin808

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain
diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that
system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?

Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely
casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a
shorter life-span than others ?

Yes, but you also get mad cow disease from, er, cows and plenty of people eat
those, although I give them a miss. I prefer to see them alive and eating grass
or nursing their calves.

I'd have to say, any argument for cannibalism, other than if you were,
perhaps, starving on a mountainside after your plane had crashed in the
freezing cold and your dinner was already dead, pretty much couldn't convince
me it was a good thing to do for a whole lot of reasons.

Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely
casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual
practise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily 
available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by 
writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever.

Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain 
diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that 
system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something?
With a heavy metal chaser. 

Now that we know that Nabby idolizes those who practice cannibalism, does this 
mean that we should look askance at him shilling for the aliens he calls the 
Space Brothers? Could he just be their advance man, trying to talk people 
into trusting them so that the aliens can eat them? Perhaps the real reason 
that Nabby and Benjamin Creme are so taken with these Space Brothers is that 
they've been promised some leftovers.
Images from Nabby's childhood, or his dreams? Curious minds want to know...





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a 
shorter life-span than others ?
Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I 
said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain 
diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided 
even if it's only your health you care about. 
I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder 
about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds 
these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect 
the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become 
obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and 
very early on in society. Is India that different?
Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole 
last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he 
found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded 
people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it 
would broaden your vision.
It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which 
there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast 
majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of 
it. 
If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the 
other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you 
braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe 
psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start 
regretting it.





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward?

  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
   
    Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.
Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Nappy doesn't give a damn about any of that - anyone who claims to be a holy 
man and does weird shit is aces in Nappy's book - maybe the same book he has on 
his shelf right next to his well worn copies of Mein Kampf and Marshy's Gita

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 11:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily 
available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by 
writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever.

Just checked him out on Amazon, doesn't seem that he is an expert in brain 
diseases either. In fact, most of his books are about ayurveda. Maybe that 
system has a cure, sipping hot water between mouthfuls or something?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a 
shorter life-span than others ?
Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I 
said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain 
diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided 
even if it's only your health you care about. 
I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder 
about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds 
these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect 
the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become 
obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and 
very early on in society. Is India that different?
Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole 
last night. God I'm going to miss her

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!

Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he 
found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded 
people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it 
would broaden your vision.
It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which 
there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast 
majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of 
it. 
If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the 
other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you 
braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe 
psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start 
regretting it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them!
I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it 
involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result 
from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the 
reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious 
ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Nabby's probably planning to eat me. 
  From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
   
    Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward?

 

 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
   
    Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.
Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Dream on. Nobody is planning to do anything, with you, or to you. Such a Walter 
Mitty type, aren't you? You live in your little room, watching TV, and build 
empty fantasies about how interested we are in you.  

 Nothing could be further from the truth, Barry. You get attention, by being an 
asshole. No one gives a damn about you, otherwise. Get used to it. We'll still 
be posting here when you are dead, with no one giving you a second thought. 
 

 The really creepy bit, as Edg, Emily, Steve, Judy, Sal, Richard, Nabby, Share, 
Dr. Pete, Rick, Alex, Bhairitu, Ann, Bob, Robin, Rory, and many, many others 
have already noted, is that you know you are broken, you know you aren't 
enlightened, you know your social skills are anti-social, you know all this 
doesn't help one bit, and yet you just can't help yourself. 
 

 You are One Sick Monkey, dude. Perhaps reliving the glory days with Freddie 
will help...now, run along and fantasize some more - you are SO good at it! :-) 
:-) :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :

 Nabby's probably planning to eat me. 

 From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
 
 
   
 Oh really? And who will give Barry this fine reward?
 

 


 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
 
 
   
 Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a 
statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and 
racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who 
just finished berating JR for an apology.
 

 Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)

[FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-21 Thread nablusoss1008

The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk 
 
 The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk 
The ending part from the movie - Varanasi, India: Beyond that inspired me. I 
DO NOT OWN ANY COPYRIGHTS FOR THIS MOVIE This movie belongs ...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk 
 Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-21 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

So beautiful, Nablusoss, on so many levels, the message, the visuals, and the 
music, maybe the music best of all...thank you. 

  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 2:51 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
   
     The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes 
||
||||   The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes  The ending part 
from the movie - Varanasi, India: Beyond that inspired me. I DO NOT OWN ANY 
COPYRIGHTS FOR THIS MOVIE This movie belongs ...||
|  View on www.youtube.com |Preview by Yahoo|
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond

2014-11-21 Thread nablusoss1008

Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human 
flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the 
movie is there also. Enjoy :-)

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Blue Lagoon

2014-11-06 Thread nablusoss1008

http://i0.wp.com/grapevine.is/wp-content/uploads/bluelagoon2.jpg
 In addition to challenging electronic music’s relationship to its exterior 
surroundings, Margeir also considers it in relation to the listener’s interior: 
the mind. He meditates twice a day, every day, for at least twenty minutes. “I 
use the technique called TM (transcendental meditation), which is the technique 
that Maharishi Mahesh Yogi taught The Beatles in the 60s,” he explains. “If 
there’s one thing that I would recommend that you could do with your life, I 
would say ‘meditate.’ That’s my advice—to everyone.”
 

 Some People out there in the real world are actually having fun:
 Blue lagoon - Iceland Airwaves 2011 - DJ Margeir + Human Woman + Beka Hoop 
crowdsurfing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 
 
 Blue lagoon - Iceland Airwaves 2011 - DJ Margeir... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 The Blue lagoon party at Iceland 
Airwaves 2011... DJ Margeir (from Gluteus Maximus) + Human Woman aka Sexy Lazer 
 DJ Magic + Beka Hoop crowdsu...
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yizb1DeDfp4 
 Preview by Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Beyond True and False

2014-05-06 Thread TurquoiseBee

Here's a good article from Aeon that explains the antipathy that some on this 
forum display towards Buddhist thought. It's comfortable with contradictions, 
and they aren't. 


Besides, this author gets database theory, and why I don't believe in a 
hierarchical universe. That would imply that most things in it are functions, 
rather than relations, and I don't see that as being true. Read the 
article...it's a mind-expander if one drops the comforting security provided by 
easy answers and opens oneself up to the notion that there probably aren't 
any. 


The logic of Buddhist philosophy – Graham Priest – Aeon

 
   The logic of Buddhist philosophy – Graham Priest...
Buddhist philosophy is full of contradictions. Now modern logic is learning why 
that might be a good thing  
View on aeon.co Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond True and False

2014-05-06 Thread Richard J. Williams


On 5/6/2014 2:33 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Besides, this author gets database theory, and why I don't believe 
in a hierarchical universe.


Not sure where you are going with this, but a SQL database is 
hierarchical. A database model that is organized into the tree structure 
- like a parent-child relationship. A database contains individual 
records represented by a row and each attribute as a column. That little 
red book you keep with all your girlfriend phone numbers is 
hierarchical. It's not complicated.



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[FairfieldLife] Beyond gurus, beyond TM, beyond beyond

2013-12-04 Thread Richard J. Williams

Soon the world press appeared at the locked upper gate. With small 
effort they broke the lock. At this same moment Maharishi arrived-he was 
quiet but firm when he requested, Please, we will receive you after a 
little time with the course then the interviews will be more meaningful; 
we will send for you and give you two full days to interview everyone. 
He finally dismissed them. I think the Beatles were very happy at the 
way it was done. That afternoon both George and John and their wives 
came to the afternoon lecture. George asked intelligent questions. The 
girls looked terrific in their colorful robes, a mad mosaic of color. 
Everyone complimented them and they seemed pleased. They appeared more 
relaxed around the other students.

When Paul McCartney arrived he brought a total surprise. It was Ringo 
Starr, who said he could only stay for ten days at the longest. Paul was 
also accompanied by a slim, willowy red-haired girl he introduced as 
Jane Asher, a British actress and his fiancee. He made it clear that 
they would share the same quarters. George warned me, Prepare for rain 
- it rains wherever Ringo is.

Ringo was small and just as much of a Rumpelstiltskin as his pictures 
made him out to be. One's first impression was of a big nose pushed 
along by vitality. Paul was outgoing and friendly. He seemed delighted 
to catch up with his team. Maharishi was the happiest of them all-he had 
all four Beatles as his guests. What a catch! It rained that night. But 
it didn't dampen my spirits - every day got more terrific.

Do you mean that Maharishi condones Paul and that actress sharing a 
room? asked an indignant Genie, who was a supporter of moral 
rearmament, a Christian movement with strict moral values, Do you feel 
that is a good example for the rest of the course members? Maharishi's 
eyes are on far more important events than who is with whom, I 
countered, in spite of being a bit baffled myself. He isn't going to 
treat us like children. We are responsible for our own lives I reminded 
her. Don't forget Maharishi's definition of sin; it involves an action 
which is 'life destructive.' I don't think it's 'life destructive' for 
Paul and Jane to share a room.

Read more:

Beyond Gurus
by Nancy Cooke de Herrera
Blue Dolphin, 1992

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond gurus, beyond TM, beyond beyond

2013-12-04 Thread Share Long

Thanks, Richard, nice excerpt. Hey you might really enjoy what Paul posted 
today about the sweet truth. 





On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:50 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
Soon the world press appeared at the locked upper gate. With small 
effort they broke the lock. At this same moment Maharishi arrived-he was 
quiet but firm when he requested, Please, we will receive you after a 
little time with the course then the interviews will be more meaningful; 
we will send for you and give you two full days to interview everyone. 
He finally dismissed them. I think the Beatles were very happy at the 
way it was done. That afternoon both George and John and their wives 
came to the afternoon lecture. George asked intelligent questions. The 
girls looked terrific in their colorful robes, a mad mosaic of color. 
Everyone complimented them and they seemed pleased. They appeared more 
relaxed around the other students.

When Paul McCartney arrived he brought a total surprise. It was Ringo 
Starr, who said he could only stay for ten days at the longest. Paul was 
also accompanied by a slim, willowy red-haired girl he introduced as 
Jane Asher, a British actress and his fiancee. He made it clear that 
they would share the same quarters. George warned me, Prepare for rain 
- it rains wherever Ringo is.

Ringo was small and just as much of a Rumpelstiltskin as his pictures 
made him out to be. One's first impression was of a big nose pushed 
along by vitality. Paul was outgoing and friendly. He seemed delighted 
to catch up with his team. Maharishi was the happiest of them all-he had 
all four Beatles as his guests. What a catch! It rained that night. But 
it didn't dampen my spirits - every day got more terrific.

Do you mean that Maharishi condones Paul and that actress sharing a 
room? asked an indignant Genie, who was a supporter of moral 
rearmament, a Christian movement with strict moral values, Do you feel 
that is a good example for the rest of the course members? Maharishi's 
eyes are on far more important events than who is with whom, I 
countered, in spite of being a bit baffled myself. He isn't going to 
treat us like children. We are responsible for our own lives I reminded 
her. Don't forget Maharishi's definition of sin; it involves an action 
which is 'life destructive.' I don't think it's 'life destructive' for 
Paul and Jane to share a room.

Read more:

Beyond Gurus
by Nancy Cooke de Herrera
Blue Dolphin, 1992

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Imagination - Official Movie Trailer (not spam)

2013-03-03 Thread Frank

Dear Ones,

I am an independent documentary film producer and my work on consciousness, 
science  spirituality is non-profit, non-commercial  educational and has been 
made available to the public for free.

Please enjoy this short, 7 minute trailer for my film trilogy to get the 
essence of what they are about:  https://vimeo.com/60887570.

The films are very thought provoking and profound.

Warm regards,

Frank
http://www.beyondmefilm.com

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Noise

2013-01-07 Thread merlin

Beyond the Noise 
**

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=iI1fSlSvaww#!

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Noise

2013-01-02 Thread srijau

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/young-filmmaker-creates-documentary-on-impact-of-transcendental-meditation-for-stressed-out-teens-185408282.html

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Noise: My Transcendental Meditation Journey by Dana Farley trailer

2012-12-12 Thread nablusoss1008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=flhsVnpBHZs

[FairfieldLife] Beyond 1st Person Ontology

2012-08-19 Thread emptybill

Intersubjectivity in Indian and Tibetan Buddhism

http://www.sbinstitute.com/sites/default/files/Intersubjectivity.pdf

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)

2011-11-11 Thread maskedzebra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wivo94ylmhE

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)

2011-11-11 Thread Denise Evans

Robin:  I cannot believe you posted a link with no words (totally kidding).  
This is so beautiful.  Soothes the soul.  Thank you.

From: maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 8:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Opinion ( Monkees Fan Clubs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wivo94ylmhE

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the TM Technique: the Varmas

2011-10-31 Thread Vaj

from Gurus In America (S U N Y Series in Hindu Studies), ch. 3 Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi: Beyond the TM Technique by Cynthia Humes (© 2005 State University 
of New York)

Swami Brahmananda's prophecy?

(…)
M A H E S H  B E C O M E S  A  M A H A R I S H I
(…)
While many of Mahesh’s followers claim he was a member of the kshatriya  or  
ruling  warrior  caste, and  many  books  written  about TM  and Maharishi  
reiterate this, Mahesh has made no such claim. Rather, Maharishi’s 
name—Varma—and most Indian sources identify him as a member of  the kayasth or 
educated clerical caste prior to becoming a monk.

This caste factor is significant. The kayasths are a learned caste with a long 
and  fascinating history of attempts at self-definition. The kayasths are 
famous for  having  served as the clerical arm of the Muslims who came to rule 
North India  prior to the British occupation of North India. A sector sought in 
the nineteenth  century to identify themselves as  descendents of the Emperor 
Chandragupta, thus giving rise to some people’s claim of their kshatriyahood. 
Especially during  the 1920s and 1930s, kayasth leaders  sought to 
“sanskritize” caste rituals, that is, emulate higher caste religious behavior, 
as well as twice- born culture, specifically, abstaining from alcohol. Their 
high level of education but  ambivalent caste status  lead to  the  kind  of  
scoffing evidenced by  this remark, attributed to  Brahmananda Saraswati, 
“Nowadays, kayasths, vaishyas, oil sellers, and even liquor  merchants put on 
the different colored garb of a holy man (sadhu)  and are eager  to  make many 
disciples of their own. In this way both the guru and disciple will  have their 
downfall. What  I am saying is in accord with the sacred codes  (shastras), I 
am not telling you my own  mental construction.”13


(…)

This issue over Maharishi’s monopoly of spiritual services mirrors a commercial 
tradition most Americans would recognize: supposed “quality control issues”  in 
  a   franchiser/franchisee relationship. McDonald’s,  for  example, requires 
its franchises to order food products and paper goods solely through their  
parent company. Maharishi also requires his franchisees—teachers, medi- tators, 
and governors, and so on—to use his products, and his alone. Indeed, he even 
requires  his teachers  to sign statements  of loyalty—a contract—to him. He 
has gone to  court to protect his trademarked wares and monopoly rights, which  
extend to the  mantras used in TM—all of which  can be found in a standard  
mantrakosha, or “treasury of mantras.”

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond the TM Technique: the Varmas

2011-10-31 Thread Tom Pall

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:



 from *Gurus In America* (S U N Y Series in Hindu Studies), ch. 3
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: Beyond the TM Technique by Cynthia Humes (© 2005
 State University of New York)

 Swami Brahmananda's prophecy?

 (…)
 M A H E S H  B E C O M E S  A  M A H A R I S H I
 (…)
 While many of Mahesh’s followers claim he was a member of the *kshat**r**i
 **y**a ** *or  ruling  warrior  caste, and  many  books  written  about
 TM  and Maharishi  reiterate this, Mahesh has made no such claim. Rather,
 Maharishi’s name—Varma—and most Indian sources identify him as a member
 of  the *k**ay**asth** *or educated clerical caste prior to becoming a
 monk.

 This caste factor is significant. The *k**ay**asths** *are a learned caste
 with a long and  fascinating history of attempts at self-definition. The *
 k**ay**asths** *are famous for  having  served as the clerical arm of the
 Muslims who came to rule North India  prior to the British occupation of
 North India. A sector sought in the nineteenth  century to
 identify themselves as  descendents of the Emperor Chandragupta, thus gi
 ving rise to some people’s claim of their *kshat**r**i**y**ahood*.
 Especially during  the 1920s and 1930s, *k**ay**asth** *leaders  sought to
 “*sansk**r**iti**z**e*” caste rituals, that is, emulate higher caste relig
 ious behavior, as well as twice- born culture, specifically, abstaining fr
 om alcohol. Their high level of education but  ambivalent caste status
 lead to  the  kind  of  scoffing evidenced by  this remark, attributed to
 Brahmananda Saraswati, “Nowadays, *k**ay**asths*, *v**ais**hy**as*, oil
 sellers, and even liquor  merchants put on the different colored garb of a
 holy man (*sadhu*)  and are eager  to  make many disciples of their own.
 In this way both the guru and disciple will  have their downfall. What  I
 am saying is in accord with the sacred codes  (*shast**r**as*), I am not
 telling you my own  mental construction.”13


 (…)

 This issue over Maharishi’s monopoly of spiritual services mirrors a comme
 rcial tradition most Americans would recognize: supposed “quality control
 issues”  in   a   franchiser/franchisee relationship. McDonald’s,  for
  example, requires its franchises to order food products and paper goods
 solely through their  parent company. Maharishi also requires his
 franchisees—teachers, medi- tators, and governors, and so on—to use his pr
 oducts, and his alone. Indeed, he even requires  his teachers  to sign 
 statements
 of loyalty—a contract—to him. He has gone to  court to protect his
 trademarked wares and monopoly rights, which  extend to the  mantras used
 in TM—all of which  can be found in a standard  *mant**r**akosha*, or “tr
 easury of mantras.”


Wormwood.  Wormwood.

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gnosis (1)

2011-09-28 Thread rwr


Beyond Gnosis (1)

I could not coin the term Metagnosis because I searched and found that
it has already been used for some business organisation, and I could
find no other prefix which would do the job with my precise meaning of
it. So, tough luck Richard. But I can still talk about it, and I will.
The question being is there really any point?  Probably not. But what
the hell  go for it and have done with it !!! It is strange too
because it also correlates with the last email I had which speaks of
HUMAN NATURE and changeability and will power. So I was seeking ONE word
which would mean Including gnosis but well beyond it.

One must begin by saying that there IS NO recognised and accepted
cultural meaning of even what GNOSIS IS. What it means, what experience
it is pointing to.  I have my own meaning for it, and I will NOT BE
MOVED.  It is plain enough that over the last few millennia other people
have found exactly the same thing. I have also met some people alive
(through my lifetime here) who have found the same thing; albeit not
many.  Unlike many people I do NOT use the word GNOSTIC as applied to
those who have this gnosis.  I don't call them anything. I would simply
say that they are with gnosis.  But it plainly turns out that those who
call themselves GNOSTICS are simply seeking gnosis, and are NOT with it.
I have never found one of them who have gnosis. Not one. So, they have
some other meaning for that word, yet they never ever ever tell you what
it is and what that experience was, etc etc etc. Moreover, of the ones I
have found in history who surely did seem to be with this gnosis they
did not even call themselves Gnostics, and those who I have found alive
then not a one of them ever called themselves anything, let alone
Gnostics.  Added to which you can look up ANY and ALL groups about
Gnostics and not a one of them are talking about it.  They have not got
what I am talking about and what some others have known. But, it is to
them whatever they want it to be. But not for me. So happy days and it
makes the word USELESS.  Just like the words The Transcendent Mystical
Reunion are useless. To be continued in Beyond Gnosis part 2.

Dick Richardson

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gnosis (2)

2011-09-28 Thread rwr


Beyond Gnosis (2)

Unlike convention will have it, that which I call gnosis IS NOT an
experience! Even though it is derived during a very specific experience
 The Transcendent Mystical Reunion with OUR SELF in the timeless
Ground of Being. The fact of this IS NOT up for debate and conjecture.
It is AXIOMATIC, IRREFUTABLE and UNARGUABLE. Ipso bloody well Facto.

So, for the rest of this day, sod incoming emails and addressing them, I
am going to do what I WANT to do. And they can do with it what they
will, and who cares. When I get serious then I get dogmatically dead
serious; and no messing about.

That which I call the Mystical Gnosis is not then an experience AT ALL.
It is NOT the experience of the Transcendent Ground of BEING and it is
not about the dark journey to it through purgation and annihilation
transition process.  It is not about any of this and it is not about the
sum of it all. The Mystical gnosis is simply ONE THING, it is that which
one KNOWS and is Conscious of WHILE THERE!   And that is NOT an
experience at all.  It IS what one IS THERE and what one KNOWS and fully
Understands there. THAT IS ALL.  Gnosis means nothing else but that.  In
my use of the word that is. Others do not use that word for this
perennial UNDERSTANDING. This gnosis is not about us out here, it is not
about the world, it is not about life on earth, and it most emphatically
does NOT reveal a purpose or meaning to life and existence. NO WAY !  NO
WAY !!!

But this is ALL OLD HAT.   That event happened fifty years ago.  Even
the BIG one THE MYSTICAL UNION WITH THE ALL, happened thirty years ago.
And that one is way beyond the mystical gnosis.  Metagnosis.   It is
that one which reveals what life on earth is all about, and the purpose
of it all and reason for Eternity even existing.  Eternity is fulfilled
and resolved in TIME ON EARTH.   It is paradise fulfilled on earth. From
Eternity for this purpose I AM.  I have come to fulfil Paradise on the
Earth. KNOW YOUR SELF !!! Unless you know your SELF then know nothing
worth knowing!

But even that one, The Consummatum Incarnate is even OLD HAT now. 
Thirty years in the past and all digested and all done and dusted and
put to bed. And one moves on from there, as I have been trying to do for
the last thirty years.  And you do that, as you do all of it, on your
own.  So, truth is, I have as much interest in gnosis, and the mystical
reunion, AND the mystical union with THE ALL ( Consummatum Incarnate) as
I do in watching paint dry.  It has all be eaten and used. Done and
dusted, and one moves on to the next stage of being in the world.  I AM,
the being who lords it over paradise IS USELESS  - if it cannot get out.
IT DOES GET OUT !  Find out for why you are here. DON'T think it up, for
thinking WILL NOT reveal it. AS for ALL your religions THEY ARE ALL
RUBBISH !!!  UTTER RUBBISH !

I am happy enough to talk abut all these things if somebody is
interested in them and SERIOUS about it.  Otherwise NOT. And I aint here
to learn about gnosis or the result of in when synthesised and united
with the outside world thank you very much; for that lot is all done;
many years ago.  And I am not the least bit interested in anybody's
beliefs, religions, or opinions.  What IS  IS.  And life and
existence IS NOT relative to the observer. It all applies to all of us.
Ipso bloody well Facto ! And neither is life and existence a delusion to
be got rid of. They are mere sad miserable monkeys with type writers.

Live well, keep positive, and be true to yourself and do no harm to
others. For your SELF is a divine wonder. From Eternity for this Purpose
YOU ARE.  And life on earth IS GOOD and it is the most profound and
amazing part of all of it. Ipso!  Have a nice day.

Dick Richardson

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Emptiness

2011-01-04 Thread yifuxero

In the context of this Buddhist appraisal of the Mahavairocana Tantra/Sutra; 
Emptiness Realization in itself appears to be a passing stage (that people can 
unfortunately get stuck in for a long time?); and it's possible that some/most 
of the Batgappers are in the Emptiness stage.
The Sutra proclaims that aspiring students can pass beyond Emptiness in their 
evolution to an awareness of the uncreated body of the Mahavairocana Buddha 
and true knowledge of the Buddha fields.
...
From Wiki:

Yet ultimately even emptiness needs to be transcended, to the extent that it 
is not a vacuous emptiness, but the expanse of the mind of Buddha, Buddhic 
Awareness and Buddha-realms, all of which know of no beginning and no arising - 
as Stephen Hodge points out:

'Finally, though one has realized the true emptiness of the individual and 
phenomena, one does not yet realize that the natural state of mind is the 
Tathagata's inherent Awareness and that it is the all-pervasive Body of 
Vairocana with all the manifested Buddha realms. Therefore one must transcend 
even emptiness with the emptiness of emptiness, when it is seen that the mind 
is primordially unborn and unarisen.'[5]

The sutra later reinforces the notion that Emptiness is not mere inert 
nothingness but is precisely the unlocalised locus where Vairocana resides. 
Vajrapani salutes the Buddha Vairocana with the following words:

'I salute you who are bodhicitta [Awakened Mind]! I salute you who are the 
source of Enlightenment! ... I bow to you who reside in emptiness!'[6]

Emptiness in Buddhist discourse usually means the flow of causation and result 
- the arising of causes and conditions - but in this scripture, Mahavairocana 
Buddha declares himself to be separate from all causes and conditions and 
without defect - truly mighty:

'I who am mighty have been renowned as the Great Hero. I directly realized that 
there is no arising, and abandoned the perceptual range of words; I became free 
from all faults, and separated from causes and conditions.'[7] '

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Emptiness

2011-01-04 Thread yifuxero

In view of the Mahavairocana Sutra; the Batgappers in that context appear to be 
stuck in a stage; i.e. the false belief that Emptiness In Itself is the 
highest realization. The Sutra suggests that one should go beyond that 
realization into an awareness of the Mahavairocana Buddha and the Buddha Fields.
From Wiki:

Yet ultimately even emptiness needs to be transcended, to the extent that it 
is not a vacuous emptiness, but the expanse of the mind of Buddha, Buddhic 
Awareness and Buddha-realms, all of which know of no beginning and no arising - 
as Stephen Hodge points out:

'Finally, though one has realized the true emptiness of the individual and 
phenomena, one does not yet realize that the natural state of mind is the 
Tathagata's inherent Awareness and that it is the all-pervasive Body of 
Vairocana with all the manifested Buddha realms. Therefore one must transcend 
even emptiness with the emptiness of emptiness, when it is seen that the mind 
is primordially unborn and unarisen.'[5]

The sutra later reinforces the notion that Emptiness is not mere inert 
nothingness but is precisely the unlocalised locus where Vairocana resides. 
Vajrapani salutes the Buddha Vairocana with the following words:

'I salute you who are bodhicitta [Awakened Mind]! I salute you who are the 
source of Enlightenment! ... I bow to you who reside in emptiness!'[6]

Emptiness in Buddhist discourse usually means the flow of causation and result 
- the arising of causes and conditions - but in this scripture, Mahavairocana 
Buddha declares himself to be separate from all causes and conditions and 
without defect - truly mighty:

'I who am mighty have been renowned as the Great Hero. I directly realized that 
there is no arising, and abandoned the perceptual range of words; I became free 
from all faults, and separated from causes and conditions.'[7] '

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Time. Eternity

2010-04-03 Thread steve.brennon


Beyond Time. Eternity.

(Beyond the perception of changing events - - an old email to somebody)

With regard to that aspect of your experience Grant, may I offer this
.. (But how can one say, 'I was above the curve of time...' my
kids (both in their thirties) laugh at me.)

First, don't tell them :- ))  One mentions these kind of things to
people who are in the know to some degree or those who come looking for
you. To the others you say nothing; or simply write books. The `others'
do not read these kind of books  YET ! Simple as that Grant. You
cannot get a quart into a pint pot  but the plants grow by
experience and watering them well  so to speak.

With regard to Time. It is a funny old business is it not.  The current
paradigm (well, the one some live in anyway) has it that there are three
dimensions of space (width breadth and depth) and one dimension of time,
and that is it.  This is all nonsense ! Moreover, all these phenomena
are operative in ONE dimension; THIS ONE called the physical world and
universe.  This is not what is meant by the mystics as dimensions; they
are simply Cartesian coordinates in this dimension.

Moreover, even in this dimension of the physical universe Time is not a
phenomenon in its own right; it is the effect of the working of other
phenomena. Time is the changing face of energy  not a thing in its
own right.  Many think of time as a kind of cosmic jam jar into which
things are put and the lid is sealed to keep them in there.

Have you ever heard the mystics say ..  Only at the end of time can
you know these things? Well, they were correct in so saying; and I say
it myself. It does not mean at the end of this world or at the end of
the physical universe  it means when time ends FOR YOU.  Time can
end at any point, at any time of the day  and it lasts as long as
it takes to learn whatever is needed for that person to learn at that
point in their development.  Even in this physical universe there is no
such thing as a universal time constant simply because change is due to
Mass and Gravitational forces.

Moreover, they like to assume that everything in the universe changes
 it is not so; and the physical universe is only a part of the
whole Cosmos of things.  All physical things change.  But does
consciousness grow old and rot?  Of course not. Do ideas grow old and
rot?  Does love and passion grow old and rot?  Do inspirations and
ideals grow old and rot?  The body grows old and rots back into the
stuff that all physical forms of energy are made of.  Everything at some
point goes back to from whence it came  even the mind and
consciousness.  And as YOU are MIND (not a body) then so too does that
(YOU) go back to from whence you came  HOME  Eternity; the
ground of Being  and wherein one redeems this eternal knowledge,
wisdom, understanding = the GNOSIS of Eternity in the Ground of Being.

If that happens during a lifetime then naturally you remember it when
you come back here (the second coming) into temporal perception again. 
If we did not come back here on occasions after that experience then
nothing on earth would ever be known about it. So it obviously HAS to be
known on earth  as it is in Paradise (Eternity) beyond all moving
time and space. And so it is, and so it is found and experienced and
KNOWN to be. I KNOW.   And so to do others KNOW  but they are rare
on earth at any one time in any one generation. Nothing is for nothing
in the nature of things; and everything is for something  cause and
effect and more besides.

However, think of it as simply steeping out of a continuum of the flow
of changing events. Think of a river and you are in a boat on that river
(a physical body is your boat and time travelling machine  it
travels through time from birth to death). But you the living life force
within it are not made of the stuff of this world or the physical
universe.  So your boat simply pulls over to the proverbial river bank
and you step out of it of it onto the `land'  so to speak. Nothing
made in time and space can return to the ground of being in eternity
(paradise) - - ONLY YOU !  For it is what you ARE made of.

But of course it is not quite as simple as that.  In reality there is no
hard and fast line as a river bank in that one instant there is dry land
and the next there is water. Think of the land at the side of the river
of change as also changing and flowing  but not as fast as the
river flows. Thus there is still time (and the perception of changing
events - just like in your experience) but it is not physical time, it
is psychic time. And it is therein that psychic events are experienced
(on the inside) or projected onto the outside from the inside (like an
hallucination  or what I call and Extended and projected Arkon
Image Emanation). Most (not all) psychic experiences (as are NDE's) are
SYMBOLIC and made that way for YOUR personal understanding of something.
It is an `in the meantime meal' to digest.  Do not they in NDE's get the

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the catastrophe: How imperialism undermined Haiti

2010-01-18 Thread eustace10679

FIST statement   Beyond the catastrophe  How imperialism undermined
Haiti
Published Jan 14, 2010  5:18 PM

A grave tragedy has befallen the people of Haiti. Fight Imperialism
Stand Together extends its solidarity to the island nation, its people
and the peoplesâ movements.

The 7.3 earthquake that struck near Port-au-Prince on Jan. 12 left many
around the world waiting, shocked, hoping for the best but anticipating
the worst. As night came and communications with the island remained
tenuous, there was nothing left to do but wait for news of the damage
and the toll of human suffering.

A 7.3 earthquake is a major catastrophe anywhere, but in a nation like
Haiti -- the poorest country in the western hemisphere, with little
infrastructure capable of withstanding such an occurrence -- it was
bound to lead to major loss of life. It is expected that tens of
thousands have been killed. The conditions of Haiti, where there are few
hospitals, little medical personnel, barely passable national highways
and no emergency response teams, will lead to the needless deaths of
thousands more.

Haiti is a highly-exploited, poor nation. Eighty percent of the
population lives on less than $2 a day and more than 50 percent on less
than $1 a day. Unemployment exceeds 70 percent. Many people survive by
subsistence farming, and within the last couple of years poverty and
hunger has increased because of four consecutive tropical cyclones--Fay,
Gustav, Hanna, and Ike--in August and September.

Natural occurrences have indeed caused a great harm, but they are not
the chief cause of the misery that faces Haitian people.

Haiti has to be put in a context that best illuminates why the small
nation is in a precarious situation.

Haiti was the western hemisphereâs first Black republic. It was
the only slave colony to win freedom through armed struggle when the
Haitian people defeated a military power that was the scourge of Europe
-- the military of Napoleon Bonaparte.

George Washington and Thomas Jefferson gave the first foreign aid from
the United States to the French slave owners, for fear that a successful
revolution would lead to uprisings of enslaved Africans in North
America.

At the time of the Haitian revolution, Saint Domingue, as Haiti was then
known, was one the richest colony of the French, known as the
âpearl of the Antilles.â

Because of the overthrow of the colonial slave masters, France sent an
armada of 14 ships to extort 150 million francs from the country in
payment for the loss of property (the people of Haiti, their free labor
and the fruits of their labor).

That 1825 extortion began a series of western world attempts to assert
its will on the free people of Haiti.

The U.S. occupation of 1915-1934 destroyed the Haitian constitution and
established the armed forces that would later be dismantled by the first
democratically elected president of Haiti in 1990, President Aristide,
because of its ties to the Haitian ruling elite. The ruling elite, for
most of Haitiâs history, has been mainly white or light-skinned
due to the long legacy of colonialism.

Thousands were massacred by the invading U.S. forces.

The U.S. supported the brutal regimes of Francois âPapa
Docâ Duvalier and his son Jean-Claude âBaby Docâ
Duvalier. Tens of thousands were killed under the twin repressive
regimes, mostly by the paramilitary Tonton Macoutes.

When the people of Haiti were able to force out Baby Doc through a mass
struggle, another repressive military regime took over from 1987 until
the election, by two-thirds of the electorate, of preacher and mass
leader Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Aristide was overthrown in September 1991, seven months after having
been sworn in, by military and police officers.

Though Aristide returned in 1994, he was forced into accepting
neoliberal austerity measures. The country was forced to import staples
and rely more heavily on loans from the International Monetary Fund and
World Bank, turning it from a nation that was in some respects able to
produce its own food to one that now relies on the importation of more
than 50 percent of its food.

Aristide was elected again in 2000 with 92 percent of the vote. He was
kidnapped in 2004 by private security forces and the U.S. military and
flown out of the country. Some of the same military leaders who started
the coup were also leaders of the Tonton Macoutes death squad.

The U.S., France and Canada all occupied Haiti until a U.N. mission,
named MINUSTAH, took over. MINUSTAH has been accused of carrying out
massacres against the popular movement to restore President Aristide,
leading to the killing of peoplesâ leader Dred Wilme.

The peculiar history of slavery and genocide, colonization and support
of brutal dictatorships by the U.S. and France has led to Haiti being in
the condition it is in today.

Not only is there a meager infrastructure, but the country has been
deforested. The deforestation leads to floods during the rainy season,

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Fringe

2009-06-27 Thread authfriend

As we all know, only extreme left-wing (or is it
extreme right-wing?) fanatical Hillary dead-enders
can find anything to criticize about Obama.

You won't *believe* the insane fantasies of the two
pathetic losers in these videos. Rachel and Jon have
trouble believing what they're hearing too:


Rachel Maddow, The Rachel Maddow Show, 5/21/09,
Tale of Two Speeches, on preventive detention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jshogbjtYs


Jon Stewart, The Daily Show, 6/25/2009, Cheney
Predacted, on secrecy:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=231571title=cheney-predacted

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Man

2009-05-06 Thread do.rflex



In one of the upper regions of the astral world not in the region of pure mind 
but near it I met a man last night who passed to and fro with his head bowed in 
thought.

What troubles you, friend? I asked, as I stood before him. He paused in his 
restless walk and gazed at me.

Who are you? he enquired, listlessly. 

I am a Judge, I answered.

His eyes brightened with interest. You must have come at the call of my 
thought, he said, for I have need of a Judge.

On whom do you wish me to pass judgment? I asked, half smiling at his strange 
words.

I would like you to pass judgment on me.

And your offence?

My offence if it is an offence, and on that you shall give your opinion is 
having led a nation to its undoing.

With malice aforethought? I queried.

With malice, perhaps, he answered, but not in the sense of your question. I 
never believed they had spirit enough to believe me.

You pique my curiosity, I said. Who are 'they?' and in what did they believe 
you?

They are the Germans, he answered, the Germans whom I despised, and they 
believed my theory that man becomes supreme by doing what he wills to do.

And the devil take the hindmost?

Yes, and the devil take the hindmost. He bent on me his sombre eyes, and I 
waited for his words.
What a folk those Germans are! he said. Whatever they do, they do too 
thoroughly. One cannot trust them with a great truth.

They do seem to have systematized you into the ground, I answered.

I wanted to make them gods, he complained, and I have made them devils.

God only can make gods, I said. Perhaps you were too ambitious.

Humph! Perhaps I was too confiding.

Hermeticism is safer, I suggested. You told them far too much.

Or far too little, maybe.

In how many volumes?

Go ask the librarians. Not the foreign ones they bind my works in packages of 
salable size.

And how can I help you? I asked.

Judge me.

While you prosecute and defend yourself?

Who else is fit, either to prosecute or defend me?

Go on with the prosecution.

I have corrupted a whole people, and led them to their ruin.

Elaborate the charge.

I thought to remedy their spinelessness, and following me with characteristic 
thoroughness, they have become all spine; they have neither heart nor bowels.

Continue, I said.

I preached Beyond Man. They have practised below man.

So far, I interrupted, you have prosecuted them, not yourself.

How can I charge myself without charging them? he demanded.

Then I will step down from the bench, I said, and talk with you man to man.

I am glad you didn't say soul to soul.

Oh, man is good enough for me! As I said before, you were too ambitious.

Yes, too ambitious for man, too sick of man, too much in love with what man 
might
become!

We have come already to the defence, I said.

The smell of the court is still about you, he growled.

You asked me to be your judge.

Yes, that is true.

I am sorry for you, I said.

He smiled a sad and searching smile. You seem to have both heart and bowels, 
he observed.

And you have been too long alone, I replied. You have lost your gift of 
words. Shall I prosecute, defend and judge you? You can interrupt me whenever 
you like.

Go on, he assented.

You were born under a restless star, I began. You followed heroes; they 
disappointed you by being men. Then you made self your hero, and that 
disappointed you most of all.

You seem to know all about me.

That is the glory and the shame of your greatness, that one knows all about 
you.

I deny it! You do not know all about me.

What is it that we do not know?

You do not know how I loved man!

You spoke of him with contempt.

That he might rise to Beyond Man.

Oh! And drown the children on the Lusitania, and hack his way through Belgium, 
and turn every friend against him, and be the curse of the planet!

He raised an arresting finger. You are speaking of the Germans, he said.

They are the only ones who have followed your philosophy to its logical 
conclusion.

And you taunt me with that?

I taunt you with nothing. I am stating facts. It was you who taunted them to 
their undoing.

I only preached Beyond Man.

So far beyond man that man misunderstood you.

Is that my fault?

Whose else?

Not theirs?

Not altogether theirs. You hated too much. You taught them to hate man.

I taught them to hate all that was not Beyond Man.

But man is not Beyond Man, and so you taught them to hate man.

But they themselves are not Beyond Man!

They aspire to be. You taught them to aspire to be. They believed themselves 
Beyond Man, beyond good and evil. You taught chemistry to babes and sucklings, 
and they have blown up the nursery of the world.

I wanted only to teach them.

You should have begun with the a-b-c.

And what do you think is the a-b-c of Beyond Man? he asked.

The a is love, the b is humility, the c is truth, I answered.

And why did I not teach them love, humility and truth?

You knew not love, humility and truth.

I knew not love?

You knew not love.

And I knew not

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Stem Cells: Obama Overturns Bush War On Science

2009-03-09 Thread do.rflex



WASHINGTON  Reversing Bush policy, President Barack Obama on Monday cleared 
the way for a significant increase in federal dollars for embryonic stem cell 
research and promised no scientific data will be distorted or concealed to 
serve a political agenda.

Obama signed the executive order on the divisive stem cell issue and a memo 
addressing what he called scientific integrity before an East Room audience 
packed with scientists. He laced his remarks with several jabs at the way 
science was handled by former President George W. Bush.

Promoting science isn't just about providing resources, it is also about 
protecting free and open inquiry, Obama said. It is about letting scientists 
like those here today do their jobs, free from manipulation or coercion, and 
listening to what they tell us, even when it's inconvenient especially when 
it's inconvenient. It is about ensuring that scientific data is never distorted 
or concealed to serve a political agenda and that we make scientific decisions 
based on facts, not ideology.

He said his memorandum is meant to restore scientific integrity to government 
decision-making. He called it the beginning of a process of ensuring his 
administration bases its decision on sound science; appoints scientific 
advisers based on their credentials, not their politics; and is honest about 
the science behind its decisions.

Fulfilling a campaign promise, Obama signed the order that on stem cell 
research that supporters believe could uncover cures for serious ailments from 
diabetes to paralysis. Proponents from former first lady Nancy Reagan to the 
late actor Christopher Reeve had pushed for ending the restrictions on research.

Obama paid tribute to Reeve, calling him a tireless advocate who was dedicated 
to raising awareness to the promise of research.

Obama's action reverses Bush's stem cell policy by undoing his 2001 directive 
that banned federal funding for research into stem lines created after Aug. 9, 
2001.

The president said his administration would work aggressively to make up for 
the ground he said was lost due to Bush's decision, though it can't be known 
how much more federal money will be spent on the research until grants are 
applied for and issued.
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Medical miracles do not happen simply by accident, Obama declared.

Embryonic stem cells are master cells that can morph into any cell of the body. 
Scientists hope to harness them so they can create replacement tissues to treat 
a variety of diseases - such as new insulin-producing cells for diabetics, 
cells that could help those with Parkinson's disease or maybe even Alzheimer's, 
or new nerve connections to restore movement after spinal injury.

House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, criticized Obama, saying in a 
statement that the president had rolled back important protections for 
innocent life, further dividing our nation at a time when we need greater unity 
to tackle the challenges before us.

Bush limited the use of taxpayer money to only the 21 stem cell lines that had 
been produced before his decision. He argued he was defending human life 
because days-old embryos - although typically from fertility clinics and 
already destined for destruction - are destroyed to create the stem cell lines.

The Obama order reverses that without addressing a separate legislative ban, 
which precludes any federal money for the development of stem cell lines. The 
legislation, however, does not prevent funds for research on those lines 
created without federal funding.

Researchers say the newer lines created with private money during the period of 
the Bush ban are healthier and better suited to creating treatment for diseases.

Obama called his decision a difficult and delicate balance, an understatement 
of the intense emotions generated on both sides of the long, contentious 
debate. He said he came down on the side of the majority of Americans who 
support increased federal funding for the research, both because strict 
oversight would prevent problems and because of the great and lifesaving 
potential it holds.

Rather than furthering discovery, our government has forced what I believe is 
a false choice between sound science and moral values, Obama said. In this 
case, I believe the two are not inconsistent. As a person of faith, I believe 
we are called to care for each other and work to ease human suffering.

Obama warned against overstating the eventual benefits of the research, but he 
said his administration will vigorously support scientists who pursue this 
research, taking another slap at Bush in the process.

I cannot guarantee that we will find the treatments and cures we seek. No 
president can promise that. But I can promise that we will seek them actively, 
responsibly, and with the urgency required to make up for lost ground, he said.

It's a matter of competitive advantage globally as well, the president argued.

When government fails to make these

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the Universe of Time and Change

2009-02-24 Thread Dick Richardson


Beyond the Universe of Time and Change.



[ their God is beyond the universe ]



Never met any of the religionists godo's on my travels. But I did
find something which was beyond the perception and my memory of the
physical universe  ME.  But there was nobody else there, no godos,
no sons of godos, just me  and that divine and wondrous pleroma of
an eternal NOW. And therein I found my SELF, its very first ground of
conscious existence; Primordial Cognition.  Hell, and I was not even
looking for it, or anything. Were you made in the same factory?  Well,
you find out.



You say there is a limit to what we can know. I guess you are right at
that. But we can sure KNOW or SELF, and when you know that then you know
what your are NOT. And that is the important bit. Hell, I don't even
know how to build a computer, or how to build a rocket. But I know what
I am and from whence I came and why. So that will do me for now. I found
it when I was very young, so I had cope with that all my adult life
 and there is more.  But best not mention that.



Dick.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifux...@... wrote:

 Among other possible types of limitations: (Scientific American, p.
 19, March 2009):

 1. Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle (HUP). ...Heisenberg
 discovered that improved precision regarding, say, an object's
 position inevitably degraded the level of certainity of its momentum.

 2. Kurt Godel showed that within any formal mathematical system
 advanced enough to be useful, it is impossible to use the system to
 prove evfery true statement that it contains.

 3. ...Alan Turing demonstrated that one cannot, in general,
 determine if a computer algorithm is going to halt.

 4. New theorem of David H. Wolpert, NASA Ames Research Center.
  ... has chimed in with his version of a knowledge limit. Because
 of it, he concludes, the universe lies beyond the grasp of any
 intellect, no matter how powerful, that could exist within the
 universe. ...no matter what laws of physics govern a universe,
 there are inevitably facts about the universe that its inhabitants
 cannot learn by experiment or predict with a computation.

 [brief comment on the last one. To get around such arguments against
 Omniscience, Fundamentalists are fond of saying that their God is
 beyond the universe, thus negating Wolpert's theorem.
 But various philosophical arguments can be brought to bear on
 counteracting the Fundies. Some of these will be presented shortly.

[FairfieldLife] Beyond the observable universe...

2008-10-04 Thread bob_brigante


Hundreds of galaxy clusters are flowing toward the same spot in the sky
beyond the observable universe, a University of Hawaii astronomer and
NASA team members have discovered.

http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d http://tinyurl.com/4jxf6d

[FairfieldLife] BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil

2008-08-11 Thread michael


  ---Originalmeldung---

   Betreff: BEYOND WORDS: David Lynch in Brazil

  Bob Roth's report from Brazil to Dr. Bevan Morris.

  Dear Bevan,

  There really are no words to properly describe what happened
yesterday
  afternoon in Belo Horizonte in Brazil, in a gymnasium filled
with 3000
  to 4000 children who have all been born with the divine
birthright of
  enlightenment, but who have lived a life far far far from that
  reality-- an impoverished life, all-but abandoned by society. No
  money, no hope, no future.

  Enter Maharishii's Transcendental Meditation program.

  With the awe-inspiring organizing power of Raja Luis and the
great
  Governors, Sidhas and Meditators of Brazil, thousands of these
  children have learned to meditate. Yesterday, they assembled in
that
  old gym, crumbling and also forgotten--and they turned it into a
  Shrine of Pure Knowledge. They gathered to honor David Lynch and
  Donovan--and to express their gratitude for the gift of true
freedom
  they received from Maharishi.

  Not much more to say other than to say, look at these pictures.
These
  should be sad children. They are not. These are happy, gleeful,
  hopeful, bright, shiny kids, lit from within, having the time
of their
  lives And David? What to say that has not been said. A true
master
  teacher of Maharishi's supreme knowledge. And Donovan (along
with a
  famous local singer named Claudia)... Well he did what he was
born to
  do: Awaken a tsunami of bliss and happiness with his song and
  presence...

  The event began at 3:30 pm and ended at 5:30 pm. It was two-
hours of
  bliss.

  ? David entered the building kind of overwhelmed by the
thunderous
  applause (you have to see and HEAR the video footage when it is
ready)
  basked for a moment in the glow of the moment, and then spoke a
few
  words to the kids, describing TM as a priceless diamond that
each
  child should cherish throughout his or her life... He said he
had not
  missed a meditation in 35 years--and neither should any of the
kids!

  ? David and the kids then meditated for ten minutes (a really
REALLY
  great experience!)

  ? A few more words were spoken from the school directors and
teachers

  ? Then the concert: Donovan wowed the kids with several songs
(they
  went wild with energy and pure joy--the director had a smile as
large
  as the country of Brazil!) followed by a few more songs with
Claudia

  But the true story of the day is in the pictures... with many
more
  fabulous photos and videos to come!

  Jai Guru Dev

  Bob






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[FairfieldLife] Beyond What Matters

2008-01-07 Thread Ben Gilberti


In my last essay on What Matters, I mentioned that reality is obvious,
and that you can know it simply by experiencing it.  I called attention
to the fact that you are what you seek, and that you can find out for
yourself what you are through your own direct discovery.



Alright, but how exactly does one do that?   Well, I don't know if
this is the best way, but one way that works is to simply notice.  That
simple.  Simply notice.



I'll give you an example.  This is certainly not the only way that
noticing can unfold.  It's just one example.



A good way to start out is to notice that noticing is only possible
because of awareness, and hence awareness itself might be wise to notice
first.   Usually we use our awareness to notice all manner of other
things.  But notice now what happens when we notice awareness itself.



Notice that our awareness has no shape, no size, no extension.  It
doesn't really seem to be a pinpoint.  And yet it doesn't' seem
to have any size beyond that either.  It seems to extend to whatever it
is that we're aware of.



Notice that it really doesn't seem to be a substance of any kind. 
It doesn't seem to be made of anything.  And yet it is more real
than substance because without it we would never be aware of substance. 
So it confounds the entire idea of materiality.  Matter is so
prominently substantial, and yet without insubstantial awareness all the
substance of matter would be pointless.



Notice how absolutely gentle awareness is.  Unless what it is aware of
has something to do with force, awareness itself is absolutely gentle.



Notice how everyone's awareness, when considered without regard to
anything one might happen to be aware of, is exactly the same for
everyone.  Though we might think that what we're aware of might be
special, awareness itself is never special.



Now notice how our very existence would actually have no meaning at all
were it not for the fact that we're aware of existing.   Notice how
we can't even be aware of anything existing without awareness
because we can't be aware of anything existing without awareness,
without being aware of just that.



And now, notice that it actually in fact is the greatest thing we could
ever know, because without it we wouldn't be able to know anything.
Notice that it actually in fact is greater than any other experience we
could possibly have because without it we wouldn't be able to be
aware of any experience.



Of all the magnificent phenomena in the entire universe.   Of all the
astounding miracles you could ever imagine.  None is more magnificent or
astounding as our own, living awareness.  Just notice how much of an
astounding miracle it actually is that we are aware



And now notice this:  Awareness is greater than anything else we could
possibly know about God, because without it God wouldn't be aware of
anything, which would nullify everything else about God that is grand
and magnificent.  Try to imagine God not being aware of His own
existence.  Without awareness, God would be nothing.  Just notice that.



So the greatest thing we can know about God is that God is awareness,
because God would be nothing without awareness, just as we would.  So,
awareness is the one thing that is clearly essential both to us, and to
God.



Notice that if we weren't awareness in the first place, we
couldn't imagine ourselves to be something other than awareness.  We
have to BE awareness before we can think we're something else.  That
being the case, what's the point in thinking we're something
else?



And now notice that there can't possibly be anything more true than
awareness.  Just try to imagine something that is more true than
awareness.  Everything we can possibly know about Truth could not be
known unless there was awareness in the first place to be aware of it.



So what we've noticed, then, is that Awareness is our True Identity
and the only Reality.





Well, that certainly is very nice, isn't it.





But now what.





Well, now that the value of noticing is obvious, it's a good idea to
just keep doing it.



As often as possible, simply notice that you exist.



You'll find that if you just keep doing that, everything else will
fall into place.



And the nice thing about this is that nobody has to take anybody's word
for it.



If one just does it, they'll find out for themselves.



Much Love,



Ben Gilberti http://www.miraclescenter.us/gilberti.htm

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond What Matters

2008-01-07 Thread Sal Sunshine


On Jan 7, 2008, at 2:16 AM, Ben Gilberti wrote:

In my last essay on What Matters, I mentioned that reality is  
obvious, and that you can know it simply by experiencing it.  I  
called attention to the fact that you are what you seek, and that  
you can find out for yourself what you are through your own direct  
discovery.




Zzzz...

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Rainbows

2007-05-28 Thread Duveyoung

Most of this post was written awhile ago to another group, but it
handles some of the issues we're currently jawing about here, so I've
rewritten it, significantly, and present it here. 

I'm a deep believer in repetition -- saturation of the nervous system.
 At a certain point, if I've run a deep concept through my mind many
times, something pops, a clarity usually. I count saturation as a
spiritual technique, and only after reading Ramana Maharshi's Talks
three times did I get comfortable with, adroit with, sold out to,
Advaita.  Suddenly, all scriptures made sense as I carefully
translated the dogma of others into my precise definitions of
spiritual terms due to Ramana saturation -- turns out it is always the
same song of the sacred being sung.  Neat!

So, I've reread the below, run the concepts through my nervous system
one more time -- another step down the trail. It's me generally
riffing on spirituality.

Beyond Rainbows

These days, most kids get taught about prisms and how white light can
be spread out into the rainbow of colors.  And most know that the
prism only creates a rainbow if it is correctly positioned relative
to the beam of light.  Three things needed: light, prism, angle.

But who's being taught that silence, like light, can be spread out
into the spectrum of all sounds when nothing passes through a human
mind?  Who's being taught silence, soul, ego is a trinity for
discovering wisdom?  Soul is the manifested white light of silence.
 Ego is the prism.  Ego pretends to be the creator, but ego doesn't
create the light that it seems to manipulate.  And beyond these
three is one's true absolute Self witnessing life's thoughts'
multicolored flowingness.

Precious few of us are ever introduced to this concept by the
serendipity of life's eddies, and fewer still are gently supported
until the mind has wrapped itself around the cosmic implications of
the concept.

Fewer still realize the concept points to an inner mountain to be
climbed, and that the ascent is done using mental skills mostly
learned during the climb.  It takes a heap-o-inner-work to get the
brain positioned just so in order to get the silence to shine
through it, -- otherwise, no rainbow.  Positioned just so means
that one has stopped actively trying to be a thinker of thoughts.  Let
go, let God be the thinker.  Stop clinging to the delusion of having
a separate, sentient potency.

Quantum physicists know that the basis of existence is the vacuum
state where nothing happens -- at a furious rate.  They'll look you
in the face, sober as judges, and tell you that any point in
space/time can suddenly manifest vast energies -- out of nowhere. 
Talk about priests speaking of miracles!  Those guys -- gotta love
atheists in frocks wanting so badly to sing with the angels!

Psychologists try to get folks to discover that clarity wherein
everything snaps into place, the colors of one's life suddenly POP
when the right looking attitude is cultured.  They know how a
person's psychological patterns are blocking the way of their own
growth, and that the learning to step aside from one's identifications
is just that thing needed to achieve that POP!  In the midst of
turmoil, suddenly, calmness can be seen to pervade despite any cacaphony.

Chemists will speak of catalysts that makes things happen but remain
unchanged after many temporary transitions -- catalysts are silent
in that they do not create anything but are the way for changes to
be made.  Just so, one's soul is the white light that can be spread
out into any thought you want.  The egoic mind is the prism.  Ego
pretends that it is the enjoyer of everything that flows from the true
Creator of EVERYTHING, but all alone, beyond even silence itself is
one's true status as witness.  When it's clear that God is doing the
thinking, one is only required to witness.  Or, as they say, When one
meets God, the first action of the ego is to fall face down to the
ground and beg for mercy -- an instant and complete surrender of this
thief who tried to steal the authorship of everything from God. 
Later, the begging for mercy part ends as the ego dissolves, and one
gets to just lay there glorying at the feet of Infinitude -- and then
identification with God begins to grow.  

Yet, of what use all the above words?  If you're in the choir with me,
these are old hat concepts; you can easily flesh out these word
bones.  And to those who have no desire to listen to -- not sing --
the hymns that move your and my egos so deeply, well, they're beyond
the hegemony of our minds; we can only surrender to their freedoms.  

Sometimes it takes 30 years of NASCAR to get that addiction done
with ya know?  Oh, I've had a taste for mammon all my life.  I've
been swept up by every sort of addiction to non-silences, and some
fell to the wayside by just my sheer indulgence in them finally jading
me enough to be free of them, to have silenced those desires.  Still
other addictions have faded by the general wisdom of

[FairfieldLife] beyond any drug thing

2007-05-16 Thread shukra69

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[FairfieldLife] Beyond Google: people search

2007-03-14 Thread bob_brigante

http://tinyurl.com/2rtfc3

[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gurus book by Nancy Cooke de Herrera for sale or.....

2006-07-05 Thread wmurphy77

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[FairfieldLife] Beyond Gurus book for sale or free..

2006-07-05 Thread wmurphy77

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond Gurus book for sale or free..

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I would enjoy reading it as well  then passing it on here. I will 
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