>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new_morning_blank_slate
> <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 11:14 AM, new_morning_blank_slate wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Can a student "get it" (things tantric) via transmission?
> > > >
> > > > Well, it depends what you mean by *transmission*. In
> > > > some lineages you always receive a transmission before
> > > > you practice, that's your "initiation" and permission
> > > > to do the practice.
> > >
> > > I got the impression nmbs was asking whether entire
> > > techniques and realizations can be transmitted to the
> > > student 'mind to mind,' without the use of words. If
> > > that was the question, I'd have to answer that with
> > > a big "Yes."
> >
> > Yes. That was what nmbs was asking. (I am pleased you received
> > that transmission clearly. :) )
> >
> > And thus supporting, though in no way proving, the following
> > train of logic and possibilities:
>
> I support none of the speculations below or your
> assumed answsers to them. I dealt only with one
> question.
I in no way assumed otherwise. Nor did I in any way imply it, did I?
>It does not relate to your followup
> questions or to what you seem to want to do
> with this information in any way.
I in no way assumed otherwise. Nor did I in any way imply it, did I?
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I find some react quite strongly (apparently) to posts that both
address some comment in an prior post, AND then, in a new section,
carve out new ground with new comments that have nothing to do with
the prior poster.
To me the break between the two is obvious. But if its not -- to all
-- then its good feedback. Perhaps its a good practice to split
comments. In a response post, respond ONLY to what the poster says.
THEN start a new post, perhaps with new Subject Title, to express ones
new thoughts that are not related to the prior posters.
What do you think?
It seems overkill to me. And would unnecessarily break up the flow of
thoughts and ideas. But if some are hypersensitive to fresh ideas
being introduced in a response to their posts, even if in a new
section, then perhaps such hypersensitivy IMO, should be respected. Or
at least tip-toed around.
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> > 1) did SBS practice (real) tantra? Apparently yes.
> >
> > 2) did MMY use or teach some tantric things (regardless of what he
> > called them)? Apparently yes.
> >
> > 3) Could SBS have known and even taught things (possibly including
> > tantric) he did not personally practice? Apparently yes.
> >
> > 4) Could SBS have taught MMY tantric things appropriate for
> > householders (his focus for MMY)? Possibly.
> >
> > 5) Could SBS or other teachers have taught MMY tantric things by
> > (passive or active) "transmission"? Possibly.
> >
> > 6) Could MMY have learned tantric things via Ritam, mandala, or
> > some other means of inner knowldge? Possibly.
> >
> > 7) Did MMY experiment and test lots of things? Emphatically yes.
> >
> > 8) Could MMY have sought to test some sexual tantric practices
> > that he
> > picked up i) directly from a teacher, or, ii) via transmission, or
> > iii) from other yogis (tat walla babba,etc), or iv) from pundits
> > /scriptures? Possibly.
> >
> > 9) Could MMY have solely sought raw sensual pleasure from his
> > encounters? Possibly. (But doesn't fit his MO,IMO.)
>
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