Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 3:14 PM, Tormod Kinnes wrote: You get a horde of mantras with variants, that is true, but not the Advaitic Smartist system that TM traces its first mantras to, SBS was initiated into the Shankaracharya tradition by his guru, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati of the Upper Kashi. It is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 3:48 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I don't think anyone knows for sure where the beej mantras came from. Those are lost in antiquity and undoubtedly commonly in use even at the time of Shankara. So let's review what we know about the TM bija mantras: The Sankrit word man in Sanskrit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 4:51 PM, Tormod Kinnes wrote: There are some sources outside TM, sources that reveal the settings and transmission to Maharishi when he was trained by Guru Dev, benefited by his company, and was asked to bring swift and deep meditation to the masses. /Hariharananda Saraswati,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 7:13 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Do you know what shaktipat is? The term Shaktipat in Sanskrit means /the transference of psychic energy to another person/ either by means of an initiation, a sacred word or phrase, a mantra, a touch or even a thought or a mere glance. Swami

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 10:20 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: You have no idea what I or anyone else knows about India and your trip or trips there make you no expert. In fact, we don't even know who you are. Go figure. Your time in TM seems to have given you a certain amount of TM similar hubris on your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published Visiting India

[FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi I have been informed in another group that there are about a thousand discourses by Guru Dev in Hindi. Some have been published in English, but most have not. It has been stated by author Paul Mason that Maharishi owed most of his core ideas to Guru Dev. Maharishi also published a series of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published   Hi I have been informed in another group

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 06:17 AM, Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hi I have been informed in another group that there are about a thousand discourses by Guru Dev in Hindi. Some have been published in English, but most have not. It has been stated by author Paul Mason that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
SBS did not originate TM, it's just an implementation of tantric meditation which has been around for centuries. It was only new to westerners or at least those who had not read Arthur Avalon. Thanks for commenting. Now, if you can prove the claims you make, for example by showing the passage(s)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've done my homework in this field and *was* a TM teacher but also studied with an authentic Indian tantric starting in early 2000. Plus I've been to India and have also discussed this issue with others who are expert in these matters. I gave examples of Arthur Avalon (Woodroffe) to show

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Although all this was around before - something Maharishi openly admitted - his genius was that he took the knowledge, systematized it, and made it globally available, with TM. This happens all the time with knowledge - I was reading about Man Ray's (Emmanuel Radnitzky) work in photography,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Dear Bhairatu You write of your background for saying TM is nothing but . . .. Good. But I cannot help noting that you still don't give real examples to document your stand. For example, you write: I also like to refer to Sivananda's Mind Its Mysteries and Control . . . to point out the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you for sharing that - I always enjoy hearing about SBS, from someone who has done the research. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Dear Bhairatu You write of your background for saying TM is nothing but . . .. Good. But I cannot help noting that you still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
On 11/22/2014 02:51 PM, Tormod Kinnes tkin...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Dear Bhairatu You write of your background for saying TM is nothing but . . .. Good. But I cannot help noting that you still don't give real examples to document your stand. Why would I want to take the the time

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published   Dear Bhairatu You write of your background for saying TM is nothing but . . .. Good. But I cannot help noting that you still don't give real examples to document your stand.  For example, you write:  I also like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:51 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published Dear Bhairatu You write of your background for saying TM is nothing but . . .. Good. But I cannot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published

2014-11-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
been to new Delhi? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published