Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-07 Thread Share Long
John, it sounds like a fascinating sub system of jyotish if a bit complicated. 
And I admit I've never thought of my car in the context of fame.  Maybe to do 
so is a guy thing (-:





On Monday, January 6, 2014 2:17 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Share,

According to Kalidasa, the Chariot chakra is determined this way:

Reckon from the Sun's (current) nakshatra till the natal (Moon) nakshatra of 
the native.  Should the number fall within the first 3 (nakshatras)--Success;  
the next 6 (nakshatras)--Fame.  There are other classifications to cover the 
remaining 18 nakshatras.  But IMO the first two classifications above are the 
most important.

By the way, I selected the Fame category to buy my car.  To date, I'm still 
waiting for my fame to come while using this car. :)  Whether or not this will 
happen, I am nonetheless happy with my car's performance right now.

Also, to get the exact day of car purchase, you can use the other jyotish 
programs (such as Parasara's Light) to select the best day for you within the 
time frame designated above.

For details of the other chakras, you can read the book as shown in this link.

http://www.vedicbooks.net/uttara-kalamrita-of-kalidasa-p-6696.html





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-07 Thread jr_esq
Share,
 

 I also used another chakra called the Bow and Arrow, to initiate a real 
estate administrative transaction.  In the end, the transaction was completed 
very cheaply, smoothly and efficiently.  So, by personal experience, I can 
vouch for its validity.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-06 Thread Share Long
John, I just received 2014 predictions from Prasannan, a jyotishi in Vancouver. 
He says there are both good and bad conjunctions this year. He specifically 
mentions that both Saturn and Jupiter are exalted for some of the year and that 
only happens once every 60 years. Also that on May 1 Sun, Moon and Venus will 
all be exalted. Probably a good day to begin just about anything wonderful!





On Sunday, January 5, 2014 6:33 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
John and seek, The Farmer's Almanac already predicted an abnormally cold 
winter. Plus they noted that there would be wildly fluctuating temps. And there 
have been such. Almanac has an 86% accuracy rate btw. I would LOVE to know on 
what they base their predictions!





On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:09 AM, seekliberat...@yahoo.com 
seekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Classic!  This year is going to be an eventful year..Something big is 
going to happen, but I don't know what.  

Not that I don't believe in astrology, I actually do.  But cold weather, 
conflict and wars. pretty easy to predict even without astrology.  


seekliberation  




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-06 Thread jr_esq
Share,
 

 It's good to know the good and bad times for the year.  During the bad times, 
one can postpone any important decisions or activities to avoid mistakes or 
disasters.
 

 Aside from mundane predictions, there are also the various chakras, that 
Kalidasa mentioned in his book, Uttara Kalamrita,  which can be used for 
various purposes.  For example,  I used the Chariot chakra to purchase a new 
car in 2007.  To date, the car has been excellent and has been trouble free.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-06 Thread Share Long
John, I've not heard of the chakras being used in this context. Can you say 
more or point me to a website? Thank you.





On Monday, January 6, 2014 10:55 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Share,

It's good to know the good and bad times for the year.  During the bad times, 
one can postpone any important decisions or activities to avoid mistakes or 
disasters.

Aside from mundane predictions, there are also the various chakras, that 
Kalidasa mentioned in his book, Uttara Kalamrita,  which can be used for 
various purposes.  For example,  I used the Chariot chakra to purchase a new 
car in 2007.  To date, the car has been excellent and has been trouble free.


[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-06 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 I didn't attend that ayurveda class.  But as I recall that conference might 
have been the last ACVA  conference in the Seattle metropolitan area.  After 
that, I didn't attend any more conferences by ACVA because they started holding 
them in Sedona, AZ and in Hawaii.  They became too expensive for me.
 

 When I came back to California in 2004, I started attending the conferences 
held by Sanjay Rath and his group.  Although a little different from KN Rao's 
methods, I enjoyed those classes he presented as well,  But, for some reason or 
the other, Rath had a fallout with his group in California and his conferences 
were no longer held.
 

 If I can find another jyotish conference here in California, I'll attend it to 
keep up with the recent developments in jyotish analysis and concepts.  If you 
know of one, please let me know.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-06 Thread jr_esq
Share,
 

 According to Kalidasa, the Chariot chakra is determined this way:
 

 Reckon from the Sun's (current) nakshatra till the natal (Moon) nakshatra of 
the native.  Should the number fall within the first 3 (nakshatras)--Success;  
the next 6 (nakshatras)--Fame.  There are other classifications to cover the 
remaining 18 nakshatras.  But IMO the first two classifications above are the 
most important.
 

 By the way, I selected the Fame category to buy my car.  To date, I'm still 
waiting for my fame to come while using this car. :)  Whether or not this will 
happen, I am nonetheless happy with my car's performance right now.
 

 Also, to get the exact day of car purchase, you can use the other jyotish 
programs (such as Parasara's Light) to select the best day for you within the 
time frame designated above.
 

 For details of the other chakras, you can read the book as shown in this link.
 

 http://www.vedicbooks.net/uttara-kalamrita-of-kalidasa-p-6696.html 
http://www.vedicbooks.net/uttara-kalamrita-of-kalidasa-p-6696.html

 

 



[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread seekliberation
Classic!  This year is going to be an eventful year..Something big is 
going to happen, but I don't know what.  
 

 Not that I don't believe in astrology, I actually do.  But cold weather, 
conflict and wars. pretty easy to predict even without astrology.  
 

 

 seekliberation  


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread Share Long
John and seek, The Farmer's Almanac already predicted an abnormally cold 
winter. Plus they noted that there would be wildly fluctuating temps. And there 
have been such. Almanac has an 86% accuracy rate btw. I would LOVE to know on 
what they base their predictions!





On Sunday, January 5, 2014 4:09 AM, seekliberat...@yahoo.com 
seekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Classic!  This year is going to be an eventful year..Something big is 
going to happen, but I don't know what.  

Not that I don't believe in astrology, I actually do.  But cold weather, 
conflict and wars. pretty easy to predict even without astrology.  


seekliberation  


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
It's called logical outcome though sometimes it defies logic.  An 
example is that we know the propping up of the financial institutions in 
2008 was just a short term fix and didn't really address the real 
problem.  What should have been done is just let them fail.  The public 
would have been hurt a lot less than they would be now and many of the 
greedy rich would have been put out of business.


On 01/05/2014 02:09 AM, seekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote:


Classic!  This year is going to be an eventful year..Something 
big is going to happen, but I don't know what.



Not that I don't believe in astrology, I actually do.  But cold 
weather, conflict and wars. pretty easy to predict even without 
astrology.




seekliberation






[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread jr_esq
Seek, 
 

 If you know a little bit of jyotish, you can understand some of her reasoning 
for making such predictions.  So, it would appear that Congress will have 
another battle to increase the debt limit in February of this year.  I would 
hope that the Tea Party members have learned a lesson from the last standoff in 
October.  From the looks of it, Senator Cruz of Texas still has an ax to grind 
for the rest of his party and the Democrats.
 

 As we're seeing a preview of the situation in the Middle East already, it 
would appear that a civil war may flare up in Iraq and Egypt.  Also, North 
Korean dictator may make another threat of war against the US and its allies.
 

 But, not to worry, as Jupiter will eventually enter Cancer, it's exaltation 
sign, and should bring a resolution to the conflicts for the rest of the year.  
It's also a good indicator that the US forces in Afghanistan will get out of 
that war-torn country, in spite of Karzai's grand standing at the present time.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread jr_esq
Share,
 

 IMO, in the past farmers used to look at the animals' furs to determine how 
the winter temperature would be like.  So, before the start of this winter, the 
animals in your region of the country may have had a very thick growth of hair 
in preparation for this winter. :)
 

 But, in this modern times, there are weather data from NOAA and other 
government agencies which can be used for weather predictions through 
complicated mathematical simulations.  If they ever invent the quantum 
computer, weather prediction should become an exact science.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread Share Long
John, that makes sense. Whenever the squirrels look especially plump in autumn, 
I figure we're in for a very cold winter. But I wonder how they compensate when 
the temps are wildly fluctuating, as they have been this winter. Yesterday I 
actually went outside without gloves! If I did this today, I'd probably lose 
some digits!





On Sunday, January 5, 2014 11:19 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
 
  
Share,

IMO, in the past farmers used to look at the animals' furs to determine how the 
winter temperature would be like.  So, before the start of this winter, the 
animals in your region of the country may have had a very thick growth of hair 
in preparation for this winter. :)

But, in this modern times, there are weather data from NOAA and other 
government agencies which can be used for weather predictions through 
complicated mathematical simulations.  If they ever invent the quantum 
computer, weather prediction should become an exact science.


[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 It appears that Joni Patry was originally a western astrologer who learned 
jyotish later.  So, now she is integrating her western astrology knowledge with 
jyotish analysis.  There are a few American astrologers who are doing this type 
of work, such as David Frawley, Dennis Harness, Brendan Feeley and Dennis 
Flaherty.
 

 However, one does get some very interesting insights using western astrology 
as taught by Santos Bonacci in his videos called, Prisca Theologia.  In 
particular, his points relating to syncretism is very a propo in understanding 
the western culture, history and the Judeo-Christian religions.
 

 Having said that, yes, you're correct in saying that Pluto is no longer 
considered a planet.  But a tradition has been established in western astrology 
to determine its meaning and signification in context with astrological 
analysis.  Nonetheless, I personally don't use it as you can get the same 
results using the 9 grahas recognized in jyotish.


[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread jr_esq
Carde,
 

 That's correct.  But there are also several shadowy grahas, such as Mandi and 
the Upagrahas, which are discussed by  Mantreshwar in his classic book, Phala 
Deepika.


[FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 What we're seeing in the economic and political fronts is the power of human 
consciousness in its attempt to solve the problems in the world today.  For 
example, the US Federal Reserve officials attempted to use the available 
resources and financial tools to stabilize the US and world economy.  So far, 
they've managed to improve the economy through its Quantitative Easing (QE) 
program by buying US bonds in the world market.
 

 I originally thought that this would eventually lead to high inflation.  But 
so far it hasn't.
 

 The next hurdle will be this coming February when the US will again reach its 
debt limit.  The politicians will again have to debate whether to raise the 
debt limit or not.  It's obvious to me that the debt limit must be raised.  But 
Senator Cruz and his Tea Party members may have other ideas which can disrupt 
the government operations and the eventual collapse of the stock market.
 

 On a positive note, since Jupiter will eventually enter its exaltation sign in 
Cancer this summer, the collective world consciousness should change for the 
better which should alleviate the tensions that we're experiencing now.  At 
least, that's the positive forecast that we can see using jyotish analysis.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
John, astrology has it's basis on the visual planets and the nodes.  
Western astrology started adding the newly discovered planets and making 
things up about them.  The visual planets and nodes had already 
centuries of observation. You can't see Uranus and Neptune with the 
naked eye so they're just making things up about them.  Same for Pluto.  
It's like western astrologers were having problems with their charts 
working out because they don't take in account the precession of the 
equinox as jyotish does so they adopted these outer planets.


The lunar nodes were observed as points where eclipses take place.  They 
are a scientific part of astronomy.  They have been personified as 
Rahu and Ketu to make them easier to understand for simple people.


As I've mentioned here before one of the astrologers from India once 
pointed out that most Indian astrologers who make good predictions use 
very simple techniques.  I also pointed out how many westerners trying 
to do Jyotish glum onto the icing instead of the cake and make lame 
predictions.


It may well be just as primitive tribes counted moons the evolution of 
jyotish may well have been tracking cycles via the other planets.  These 
cycles may have nothing to do at all with the planets themselves other 
than they occur near repeating positions of these planets.  So they were 
used as markers to see if the same kind of events would reoccur.


I met some of these western astrologers at a joint jyotish and western 
astrology conference in Lynnwood, Washington in 1996.  The jyotish 
practitioners were mostly humble and spiritual and the western ones were 
about their image and like Amway salespeople.


On 01/05/2014 11:59 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


It appears that Joni Patry was originally a western astrologer who 
learned jyotish later.  So, now she is integrating her western 
astrology knowledge with jyotish analysis.  There are a few American 
astrologers who are doing this type of work, such as David Frawley, 
Dennis Harness, Brendan Feeley and Dennis Flaherty.



However, one does get some very interesting insights using western 
astrology as taught by Santos Bonacci in his videos called, Prisca 
Theologia.  In particular, his points relating to syncretism is very 
a propo in understanding the western culture, history and the 
Judeo-Christian religions.



Having said that, yes, you're correct in saying that Pluto is no 
longer considered a planet.  But a tradition has been established in 
western astrology to determine its meaning and signification in 
context with astrological analysis.  Nonetheless, I personally don't 
use it as you can get the same results using the 9 grahas recognized 
in jyotish.







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 I attended that conference back in 1996.  As I remember, KN Rao was there who 
started the conference with a puja.   But he didn't make any lecture 
presentation.  
 

 Also, David Frawley was there and I chatted with him about TM and Chopra's new 
meditation mantras.  He said that Chopra consulted with him in designing the 
mantras that was going to be used for his new movement.
 

 Then, I attended Chakrapani Ullal's class in the conference.  If you were in 
that class, we may have crossed paths and didn't even know about it.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2014 Predictions

2014-01-05 Thread Bhairitu
That was a very small conference.  I hung out a bit with Hart DeFouw 
because he wasn't into ACVA's new interest in sports because Rao had 
criticized western jyotishis for their disinterest in it.  So they were 
following the baseball playoffs (yawn).


David did my chart in the ayurveda/jyotish session he did.  Did you 
attend that?  I miss those conferences but ACVA became too focused on 
legitimizing jyotish with their certifications and trying to set up 
colleges.  They they started having symposiums in places like Hawaii 
which were beyond my budget.  And the symposiums became more focused on 
beginners so there was little there for the old timers. The early 
symposiums were really fun (like the ones in San Rafael and even San Diego).


On 01/05/2014 01:07 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


I attended that conference back in 1996.  As I remember, KN Rao was 
there who started the conference with a puja. But he didn't make any 
lecture presentation.



Also, David Frawley was there and I chatted with him about TM and 
Chopra's new meditation mantras.  He said that Chopra consulted with 
him in designing the mantras that was going to be used for his new 
movement.



Then, I attended Chakrapani Ullal's class in the conference.  If you 
were in that class, we may have crossed paths and didn't even know 
about it.