Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread slouisedavis
I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am surprised threats are allowed here. Louise ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation on cults. He tried this very

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Yeah, where are the moderators around here? Where is Dr. Pete when we need him? Don't these informants know any netiquette? Go figure. This group is turning into a circus only the village idiot could understand - it's like a funny farm lounge. We've got cultists climbing out of the woodwork

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. Just what we needed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote: I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am surprised threats are allowed here. Louise ---In

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Louise, quite right. You're new in these parts? The hope was that FFL could be a kind of spiritual salon. Not infrequently it descends to being a saloon of flaming inequity until the Marshal periodically comes in and straightens it out and throws some people out the swinging doors. There are

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread slouisedavis
Louise blabbered ? You are also a bit rude. I am afraid. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Welcome to FFL Louise baby !!! Yes I am well known here for being extremely allergic and brazenly abusive and threatening towards liars like emptybill. I'm very

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Actually, Louise, people rarely get thrown out, and when they do, it's for a very specific offense. FFL has very few rules, and folks don't get thrown out for flaming or being abusive. I'm afraid Buck has made up a story intended to mislead you. What he describes is simply not what goes on

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
It's starting to look like a few informants will have to be booted off the FFL discussion group for revealing private information to the group. Maybe its time to review a few of the netiquette protocols: 1. Respect other people's privacy. 2. Do not reveal private information without the

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread slouisedavis
Thankyou for you words of wisdom awoelf... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Oh Louise. I don't know quite what to say. Just roll with it all if you are, in fact, new here. You ain't seen nothin' yet and if you stick around strap yourself in. Why do you think

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
So, what would gender have to do with posting comments? Go figure. On 11/17/2013 9:53 AM, slouiseda...@yahoo.com wrote: Thankyou for you words of wisdom awoelf... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Oh Louise. I don't know quite what to say. Just roll with it all

RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread sharelong60
Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. Just what we needed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I? Share bobbled: Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. Just

Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I? On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I? Share bobbled: Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?!

RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma? You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts today. Maybe it's the full moon, eh? Share faltered: Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I? On Sunday, November 17, 2013

Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask? On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma? You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the

RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, because it was a really dumb question. Share muddled: Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask? On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: Then who did, such that

Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Shoulda coulda woulda... On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, because it was a really dumb question. Share muddled: Judy, what makes you think I felt that I

RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Shoulda coulda woulda... On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, this is just me having fun, playing. But continue taking all this way too seriously as long as you want. On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance.  ---In

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Share flatlined: Judy, this is just me having fun, playing. Yes, as I said, it's your Avoidance Dance. But continue taking all this way too seriously as long as you want. On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: And Share shows

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
yawn... On Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:   Share flatlined:  Judy, this is just me having fun, playing. Yes, as I said, it's your Avoidance Dance.  But continue taking all this way too seriously as long as you want. On

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
snicker On 11/17/2013 4:34 PM, Share Long wrote: yawn... On Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *Share flatlined: * Judy, this is just me having fun, playing. Yes, as I said, it's your Avoidance Dance. But continue taking all this way

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread sharelong60
dear not really indifferent, much of my thinking about this topic is based on knowing Rick in person. I think he's quite intelligent and impervious to self delusion so I choose to trust his input. About Amma and Gail I will never know the *facts* via my own direct observations so I rely on the

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
And authfriend please don't dismiss Eileen so lightly or question her motives. You can briefly check who she is here - http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/22/divya.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi - no worries authfriend, I have no issues with

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread authfriend
Actually, I believe your post announcing the publication of Tredwell's book preceded Rick's posting the link to the pro-Amma site.. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi - no worries authfriend, I have no issues with discussion since I have been around

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread authfriend
You know, indiff, you haven't been hanging out on FFL for more than a few days. It may not be appropriate for you to go around hurling the cultist label at folks you don't know very well. This group, and its members' relationships to Maharishi and the TMO (and to each other), are complicated

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Not too intelligent are you empty - stop frothing so much, it's embarrassing. Discussions on Amma are very relevant here and take your bullshit elsewhere. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Not so Indifferent sounds like a troll planted to defend an author

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread authfriend
Here's a suggestion: Why don't you talk about Amma and how awful she is rather than about individuals on FFL and how awful they are? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hi authfriend no issues it's easy for you to adopt a disinterested persona since as

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Hi - yes the first part is Gail's journey which doesn't involve Amma and I found it very sincere, funny at times, very engaging regardless especially her time in Ramana Maharshi's ashram. Please feel free to direct any questions towards me at any time. ---In

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you are. I am giving you a chance to

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Indeed authfriend seems to be a genuine, rational person even though I don't necessarily agree with what she has had to say to me on this thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: Authfriend is worth listening to - a war horse in the best of possible ways.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Oh my god, someone please help me find a partner for Mr. Bill, someone he can converse with, someone who is at the same intellectual, emotional, psychological maturity level as Mr. Bill (read someone as intellectually, emotionally, psychologically retarded as Mr. Bill). Mr. Bill - please be

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
You dumb mother-fucker I have a right to post anonymously. Please stop referring to me as Ravi. May be you think you have a great thing by figuring out who I am - OMG hilarious. Do you get it - you fucking retard? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Ravi! So

RE: RE: Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-15 Thread sharelong60
Thanks, Emily, I think it's a great gift from life to be devoted, like how you're devoted to your daughters. Everyone here is devoted to someone or something. As for me, I'm not devoted to Amma nor even to Maharishi. As I get older, the object of my devotion has become well, less of an object.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-15 Thread emilymaenot
I agree with what you've said except: Amma is absolutely fascinated by the adulation, power very clearly emotionally, psychologically immature, a product of her illiterate, unsophisticated culture and values. While I agree that adulation and power are primary with her at this point and

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Rick Archer
Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Share Long Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Rick. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:19 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:   Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/     From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread merudanda
'Amma's so called shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the ashram-? Should be at 46m28s - http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789

RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread merudanda
'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the ashram-? Should be at 46m28s - http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20- http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Share Long
To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace when all is said and done. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   'Amma's shadow'Gail

RE: RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread merudanda
sorry should work if you copy and past the link ---at least...it works here on the other side of the globe it's too late night here---Rick ,noozeguru et al may figure it out- to find Amma's shadow -go figure Seems like a go figure pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the go

Re: RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Share Long
Funnily enough, merudandaji, River of Love is what first introduced me to the kirtan of Krishna Das. good night and as Anartaxius teaches us to say: may you have the best of all experience. On Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:02 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:   sorry

RE: Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread emilymaenot
You sound like a devotee. Read the book Share. It is a very interesting book and includes a lot of detail on what it was like to live in India re: the culture, her journey, etc. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: To be that close to Amma for that long is bound

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread emilymaenot
The Amma org put this website together and included these stories to discredit Gail - they are in massive attack mode on as many fronts as possible. Rick, come on now. Have you read the book? If so, come on out and state what you think. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Bhairitu
Yahoo is burping badly or the NSA pigs are holding things up. I responded to Share's response to my post earlier this morning and it hasn't shown up yet. On 11/14/2013 01:02 PM, merudanda wrote: sorry should work if you copy and past the link ---at least...it works here on the other side

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-13 Thread Share Long
I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-12 Thread emilymaenot
She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-12 Thread emilymaenot
I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel compelled to write up my story for a post in the process). I think