Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth 
conversation on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I 
was a troll when I posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of 
these people have been in and out of cults for the better part of their 
entire adult life. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him?


'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was 
bullshit - go figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for 
being newsgroup bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or 
two and told them the truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.


And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' 
that we are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where 
you were born is just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I 
don't know. One thing is fer sure - they are VERY interested in the 
comings and goings of some cult leaders. LoL!




On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:


You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and 
powerful you are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something 
other than


braggadocio.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?






RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread slouisedavis
I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation 
on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I 
posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in 
and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. 
Pete when we need him?
 
 'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was bullshit - go 
figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for being newsgroup 
bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or two and told them the 
truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.
 
 And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' that we 
are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where you were born is 
just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is 
fer sure - they are VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult 
leaders. LoL!
 
 
 
 On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:
 
   You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 
 
 braggadocio. 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
Yeah, where are the moderators around here? Where is Dr. Pete when we 
need him? Don't these informants know any netiquette? Go figure.


This group is turning into a circus only the village idiot could 
understand - it's like a funny farm lounge. We've got cultists climbing 
out of the woodwork to fight off the new kids on the block! Somebody 
will probably try to start a news group riot. LoL!


Look people, I NEED SOME SPIRITUAL HELP, please help me - for Gawd's 
sake!!!


On 11/17/2013 8:05 AM, slouiseda...@yahoo.com wrote:


I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite 
abusive. I am surprised threats are allowed here.


Louise



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth 
conversation on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming 
I was a troll when I posted comments about his cult. Apparently some 
of these people have been in and out of cults for the better part of 
their entire adult life. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him?


'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty 
on several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was 
bullshit - go figure. These two are famous all over the internet for 
being newsgroup bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg 
or two and told them the truth about their online flame tactics. Go 
figure.


And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' 
that we are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where 
you were born is just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I 
don't know. One thing is fer sure - they are VERY interested in the 
comings and goings of some cult leaders. LoL!




On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:

You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... 
mailto:emptybill@... wrote:


That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and 
powerful you are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something 
other than


braggadocio.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?








RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. Just 
what we needed. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation 
on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I 
posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in 
and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. 
Pete when we need him?
 
 'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was bullshit - go 
figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for being newsgroup 
bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or two and told them the 
truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.
 
 And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' that we 
are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where you were born is 
just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is 
fer sure - they are VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult 
leaders. LoL!
 
 
 
 On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:
 
   You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 
 
 braggadocio. 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 
 
 
 
 
 





RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Louise, quite right. You're new in these parts? The hope was that FFL could be 
a kind of spiritual salon. Not infrequently it descends to being a saloon of 
flaming inequity until the Marshal periodically comes in and straightens it out 
and throws some people out the swinging doors. There are some infamous writers 
who crawl back in here who have been thrown out several times. You've entered 
in the midst of one of those fights. The Marshal just has not shown up yet. I 
am going to call in the yahoo-groups management to enforce their forums 
guidelines against abusive posting if the Marshal don't show up pretty quick 
here and throw the rift-raft out again.
 -Buck in the Dome 
 

 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Yeah, where are the moderators around here? Where is Dr. Pete when we need 
him? Don't these informants know any netiquette? Go figure.
 
 This group is turning into a circus only the village idiot could understand - 
it's like a funny farm lounge. We've got cultists climbing out of the woodwork 
to fight off the new kids on the block! Somebody will probably try to start a 
news group riot. LoL!
 
 Look people, I NEED SOME SPIRITUAL HELP, please help me - for Gawd's 
sake!!!
 
 On 11/17/2013 8:05 AM, slouisedavis@... mailto:slouisedavis@... wrote:
 
   I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation 
on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I 
posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in 
and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. 
Pete when we need him?
 
 'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was bullshit - go 
figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for being newsgroup 
bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or two and told them the 
truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.
 
 And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' that we 
are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where you were born is 
just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is 
fer sure - they are VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult 
leaders. LoL!
 
 
 
 On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:
 
   You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 
 
 braggadocio. 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread slouisedavis
Louise blabbered ? You are also a bit rude. I am afraid.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Welcome to FFL Louise baby !!! Yes I am well known here for being extremely 
allergic and brazenly abusive and threatening towards liars like emptybill. I'm 
very indifferent to anyone's encouragement or discouragement in this regard 
:-). So as long as you don't lie you have nothing to fear. Louise blabbered: I 
don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. Louise



RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Actually, Louise, people rarely get thrown out, and when they do, it's for a 
very specific offense. FFL has very few rules, and folks don't get thrown out 
for flaming or being abusive. I'm afraid Buck has made up a story intended to 
mislead you. What he describes is simply not what goes on here. Unfortunately 
telling falsehoods is not grounds for being thrown out either. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Louise, quite right. You're new in these parts? The hope was that FFL could be 
a kind of spiritual salon. Not infrequently it descends to being a saloon of 
flaming inequity until the Marshal periodically comes in and straightens it out 
and throws some people out the swinging doors. There are some infamous writers 
who crawl back in here who have been thrown out several times. You've entered 
in the midst of one of those fights. The Marshal just has not shown up yet. I 
am going to call in the yahoo-groups management to enforce their forums 
guidelines against abusive posting if the Marshal don't show up pretty quick 
here and throw the rift-raft out again.
 -Buck in the Dome 
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams
It's starting to look like a few informants will have to be booted off 
the FFL discussion group for revealing private information to the group. 
Maybe its time to review a few of the netiquette protocols:


1. Respect other people's privacy.
2. Do not reveal private information without the owner's specific 
written consent.

3. Do not send spam about your personal business or employment.
5. DO NOT send email at night.

net·i·quette
noun

Rules of Netiquette: Social norms that individuals choose to follow 
facilitating effective communication on the internet.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/netiquette

Notes: No Late Night Email It good netiquette to send email messages 
during the day and early evening. Sending email messages late at night 
can lower the credibility of the message because people who stay up late 
are labeled care-free. It may call your lifestyle into question. Also, 
the incessant ding from an iPhone will drive your significant other 
crazy with JELLOSE.


On 11/17/2013 9:24 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Louise, quite right. You're new in these parts? The hope was that FFL 
could be a kind of spiritual salon. Not infrequently it descends to 
being a saloon of flaming inequity until the Marshal periodically 
comes in and straightens it out and throws some people out the 
swinging doors. There are some infamous writers who crawl back in here 
who have been thrown out several times. You've entered in the midst of 
one of those fights. The Marshal just has not shown up yet. I am going 
to call in the yahoo-groups management to enforce their forums 
guidelines against abusive posting if the Marshal don't show up pretty 
quick here and throw the rift-raft out again.*


*-Buck in the Dome *





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

Yeah, where are the moderators around here? Where is Dr. Pete when we 
need him? Don't these informants know any netiquette? Go figure.


This group is turning into a circus only the village idiot could 
understand - it's like a funny farm lounge. We've got cultists 
climbing out of the woodwork to fight off the new kids on the block! 
Somebody will probably try to start a news group riot. LoL!


Look people, I NEED SOME SPIRITUAL HELP, please help me - for Gawd's 
sake!!!


On 11/17/2013 8:05 AM, slouisedavis@... mailto:slouisedavis@...
wrote:

I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite 
abusive. I am surprised threats are allowed here.


Louise



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:


Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth 
conversation on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - 
claiming I was a troll when I posted comments about his cult. 
Apparently some of these people have been in and out of cults for the 
better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. Pete when we 
need him?


'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty 
on several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was 
bullshit - go figure.  These two are famous all over the internet 
for being newsgroup bullies. It's about time someone took them down a 
peg or two and told them the truth about their online flame tactics. 
Go figure.


And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' 
that we are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or 
where you were born is just being prejudice. Maybe they are just 
JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is fer sure - they are VERY 
interested in the comings and goings of some cult leaders. LoL!




On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:

You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you 
more miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... 
mailto:emptybill@... wrote:


That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and 
powerful you are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something 
other than


braggadocio.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?










[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread slouisedavis
Thankyou for you words of wisdom awoelf... 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  Oh Louise. I don't know quite what to say. Just roll with it all if you are, 
in fact, new here. You ain't seen nothin' yet and if you stick around strap 
yourself in. Why do you think there are so few women participating here? You 
either have to be really smart and strong or you have to be clueless to survive 
at FFL. We have both types here - if you stick around long enough you'll see 
which is which and who are who. In the meantime enjoy the show.
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 Louise blabbered ? You are also a bit rude. I am afraid.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Welcome to FFL Louise baby !!! Yes I am well known here for being extremely 
allergic and brazenly abusive and threatening towards liars like emptybill. I'm 
very indifferent to anyone's encouragement or discouragement in this regard 
:-). So as long as you don't lie you have nothing to fear. Louise blabbered: I 
don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. Louise


 




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams

So, what would gender have to do with posting comments? Go figure.

On 11/17/2013 9:53 AM, slouiseda...@yahoo.com wrote:


Thankyou for you words of wisdom awoelf...



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Oh Louise. I don't know quite what to say. Just roll with it all if 
you are, in fact, new here. You ain't seen nothin' yet and if you 
stick around strap yourself in. Why do you think there are so few 
women participating here? You either have to be really smart and 
strong or you have to be clueless to survive at FFL. We have both 
types here - if you stick around long enough you'll see which is which 
and who are who. In the meantime enjoy the show.




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

Louise blabbered ? You are also a bit rude. I am afraid.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Welcome to FFL Louise baby !!! Yes I am well known here for
being extremely allergic and brazenly abusive and threatening
towards liars like emptybill. I'm very indifferent to anyone's
encouragement or discouragement in this regard :-). So as long
as you don't lie you have nothing to fear. Louise blabbered: I
don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite
abusive. I am surprised threats are allowed here. Louise






RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread sharelong60
Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation 
on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I 
posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in 
and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. 
Pete when we need him?
 
 'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was bullshit - go 
figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for being newsgroup 
bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or two and told them the 
truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.
 
 And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' that we 
are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where you were born is 
just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is 
fer sure - they are VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult 
leaders. LoL!
 
 
 
 On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:
 
   You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 
 
 braggadocio. 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 
 
 
 
 
 







RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?
 
Share bobbled:

  Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation 
on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I 
posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in 
and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. 
Pete when we need him?
 
 'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was bullshit - go 
figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for being newsgroup 
bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or two and told them the 
truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.
 
 And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' that we 
are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where you were born is 
just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is 
fer sure - they are VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult 
leaders. LoL!
 
 
 
 On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:
 
   You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 
 
 braggadocio. 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 
 
 
 
 
 









Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?




On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?

Share bobbled:


 Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:


I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
Louise



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:


Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth 
conversation on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was 
a troll when I posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these 
people have been in and out of cults for the better part of their entire 
adult life. Where is Dr. Pete when we need him?

'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls.
  Empty on several occasions claimed what I was posting about his
  cult was bullshit - go figure.  These two are famous all over
  the internet for being newsgroup bullies. It's about time someone
  took them down a peg or two and told them the truth about their
  online flame tactics. Go figure.

And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf
  Baiter' that we are are supposed to be equals here and where you
  live or where you were born is just being prejudice. Maybe they
  are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is fer sure - they are
  VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult leaders.
  LoL!




On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:

  
You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:


That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful 
you are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 

braggadocio. 




---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?



RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?
 

 You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts 
today. Maybe it's the full moon, eh?
 
Share faltered:

  Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?

 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?
 
Share bobbled:

  Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 












 
 
 
 





Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?





On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?

You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts today. 
Maybe it's the full moon, eh?

Share faltered:


 Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?



On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?

Share bobbled:


 Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:


I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
Louise




RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, 
because it was a really dumb question.
 

 Share muddled:
 

  Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?
 

 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?
 

 You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts 
today. Maybe it's the full moon, eh?
 
Share faltered:

  Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?

 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?
 
Share bobbled:

  Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 












 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Shoulda coulda woulda...





On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, 
because it was a really dumb question.

Share muddled:

 Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?

You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts today. 
Maybe it's the full moon, eh?

Share faltered:


 Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?



On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?

Share bobbled:


 Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:


I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I 
am surprised threats are allowed here. 
Louise






RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Shoulda coulda woulda...
 
 
 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, 
because it was a really dumb question.
 

 Share muddled:
 

  Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?
 

 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?
 

 You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts 
today. Maybe it's the full moon, eh?
 
Share faltered:

  Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?

 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?
 
Share bobbled:

  Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 












 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
Judy, this is just me having fun, playing. But continue taking all this way too 
seriously as long as you want.





On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


Shoulda coulda woulda...




On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, 
because it was a really dumb question.

Share muddled:

 Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?

You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts today. 
Maybe it's the full moon, eh?

Share faltered:


 Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?



On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?

Share bobbled:


 Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:


I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I 
am surprised threats are allowed here. 
Louise








RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread authfriend
Share flatlined: 
 
  Judy, this is just me having fun, playing.
 

 Yes, as I said, it's your Avoidance Dance.
 

 

 

 

  But continue taking all this way too seriously as long as you want.
 

 
 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Shoulda coulda woulda...
 
 
 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, 
because it was a really dumb question.
 

 Share muddled:
 

  Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?
 

 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?
 

 You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts 
today. Maybe it's the full moon, eh?
 
Share faltered:

  Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?

 
 On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?
 
Share bobbled:

  Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 












 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Share Long
yawn...




On Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Share flatlined: 


 Judy, this is just me having fun, playing.

Yes, as I said, it's your Avoidance Dance.




 But continue taking all this way too seriously as long as you want.





On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


Shoulda coulda woulda...




On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should have, 
because it was a really dumb question.

Share muddled:

 Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was pro-Amma?

You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the posts today. 
Maybe it's the full moon, eh?

Share faltered:


 Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?



On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?

Share bobbled:


 Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:


I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I 
am surprised threats are allowed here. 
Louise










Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread Richard J. Williams

snicker

On 11/17/2013 4:34 PM, Share Long wrote:

yawn...


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 4:03 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

*Share flatlined: *

 Judy, this is just me having fun, playing.

Yes, as I said, it's your Avoidance Dance.




 But continue taking all this way too seriously as long as you want.



On Sunday, November 17, 2013 2:46 PM, authfriend@... 
authfriend@... wrote:

*And Share shows us yet another step in her Avoidance Dance. *


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

Shoulda coulda woulda...


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:41 PM, authfriend@... 
authfriend@... wrote:
*You mean, you could have refrained from asking? Perhaps you should 
have, because it was a really dumb question.*

*
*
*Share muddled:*

 Judy, what makes you think I felt that I had to ask?

On Sunday, November 17, 2013 12:25 PM, authfriend@... 
authfriend@... wrote:
*Then who did, such that you felt you had to ask how her comment was 
pro-Amma?*

*
*
*You seem to be having a harder time than usual making sense of the 
posts today. Maybe it's the full moon, eh?*


Share faltered:

 Judy, I don't believe I said that you said, did I?

On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:57 AM, authfriend@... 
authfriend@... wrote:

*I don't believe I said her comment was pro-Amma, Share, did I?*
*
Share bobbled:
*
 Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
authfriend@... wrote:

Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here
to carry on their fight. Just what we needed.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
slouisedavis@... wrote:

I don't think people should encourage
indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am
surprised threats are allowed here.
Louise














[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread sharelong60
dear not really indifferent, much of my thinking about this topic is based on 
knowing Rick in person. I think he's quite intelligent and impervious to self 
delusion so I choose to trust his input. About Amma and Gail I will never know 
the *facts* via my own direct observations so I rely on the observations of 
others I have found trustworthy. All the while knowing that I might be wrong.
 

 That's the thing I think. At any moment we might be wrong. All we can do is 
our best in any moment. If we're wrong, life will straighten us out one way or 
the other. I can live with that. 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 This is an extremely cultish, delusional thinking.
 

 Here's an interview of Gail Tredwell on this book - open in Google Chrome for 
English translation
 

 
http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html
 
http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html
 
http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html
  
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, 
fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace 
when all is said and done.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
   'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata 
Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is 

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
And authfriend please don't dismiss Eileen so lightly or question her motives.

You can briefly check who she is here - 
http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/22/divya.html

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi - no worries authfriend, I have no issues with discussion since I have been 
around the Amma scene for a really long time.
 

 The only reason I was compelled to post was because of Rick who posted what 
was nothing but an attack website from Amma org. I can shut up now :-)
 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 indifferent_netizen, I don't recall having seen you or Eileen on FFL before. 
Are you here only to publicize Tredwell's book and counter criticisms of it?
 

 I don't have a dog in the pro/anti-Amma fight. I'm just curious, wondering if 
your presence on FFL is sort of the other side of what's been portrayed as an 
effort by the pro-Amma folks to discredit Tredwell and her book. You seem 
pretty anxious to discredit anyone here who takes a pro-Amma stance. You may 
not be doing your cause much good by insulting them, if I may say so.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi thank you Eileen for your comments.

I had a chance to read your journey and experiences at Sai Baba's ashram online 
and they were very interesting. Thank you for taking such a courageous stand 
against the pedophile Sai Baba.

Interestingly some like Rick Archer talk against Maharishi and Sai Baba and 
give an absolute free pass to Amma. Gotta protect the current cult you are in 
:-)

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eileenweed@... wrote:

 Holy Hell is a totally valuable book, because how often do we get an insider 
view from someone who was actually the personal assistant of such a big-name 
guru, and for two long decades? So often these gurus are two-faced hypocrites, 
presenting a smiling, benevolent persona to the general public, then changing 
into their true colors in private behind closed doors. People like Sathya Sai 
Baba (much of my two decades inside Indian ashrams were spent at his ashram in 
Puttaparthi) and Mata Amritanandamayi no doubt inspire their devotees through 
their idealistic teachings, but part of that inspiration always lines the 
guru's pockets with more wealth. 

The fact is, as revealed in Gail's book and backed by a number of others who 
were close to the 'Hugging Amma', Amritanandamayi is violent with 
uncontrollable anger and harshly beats her attendants, she has sex with some of 
her top Swamis (who control the finances of the ashram empire - and who are 
also rapists), she orders murders of various people who come in her way - 
including her own brother (several police cases were halted by the powerful 
ashram authorities), she has made her family members multimillionaires (and 
then goes on record to say she gave them nothing and it is all due to the 
success of their local fishing business!). So many details backing Gail's 
experiences in her book, are available online - including financial reports 
that show less than 10% of donations help the poor.

So many parallels between these reports and what I personally experienced in 
sai baba's ashram! They are greedy rotten apples, preying on our naive 
devotion. :-(




 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread authfriend
Actually, I believe your post announcing the publication of Tredwell's book 
preceded Rick's posting the link to the pro-Amma site..
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi - no worries authfriend, I have no issues with discussion since I have been 
around the Amma scene for a really long time.
 

 The only reason I was compelled to post was because of Rick who posted what 
was nothing but an attack website from Amma org. I can shut up now :-)
 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 indifferent_netizen, I don't recall having seen you or Eileen on FFL before. 
Are you here only to publicize Tredwell's book and counter criticisms of it?
 

 I don't have a dog in the pro/anti-Amma fight. I'm just curious, wondering if 
your presence on FFL is sort of the other side of what's been portrayed as an 
effort by the pro-Amma folks to discredit Tredwell and her book. You seem 
pretty anxious to discredit anyone here who takes a pro-Amma stance. You may 
not be doing your cause much good by insulting them, if I may say so.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi thank you Eileen for your comments.

I had a chance to read your journey and experiences at Sai Baba's ashram online 
and they were very interesting. Thank you for taking such a courageous stand 
against the pedophile Sai Baba.

Interestingly some like Rick Archer talk against Maharishi and Sai Baba and 
give an absolute free pass to Amma. Gotta protect the current cult you are in 
:-)

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eileenweed@... wrote:

 Holy Hell is a totally valuable book, because how often do we get an insider 
view from someone who was actually the personal assistant of such a big-name 
guru, and for two long decades? So often these gurus are two-faced hypocrites, 
presenting a smiling, benevolent persona to the general public, then changing 
into their true colors in private behind closed doors. People like Sathya Sai 
Baba (much of my two decades inside Indian ashrams were spent at his ashram in 
Puttaparthi) and Mata Amritanandamayi no doubt inspire their devotees through 
their idealistic teachings, but part of that inspiration always lines the 
guru's pockets with more wealth. 

The fact is, as revealed in Gail's book and backed by a number of others who 
were close to the 'Hugging Amma', Amritanandamayi is violent with 
uncontrollable anger and harshly beats her attendants, she has sex with some of 
her top Swamis (who control the finances of the ashram empire - and who are 
also rapists), she orders murders of various people who come in her way - 
including her own brother (several police cases were halted by the powerful 
ashram authorities), she has made her family members multimillionaires (and 
then goes on record to say she gave them nothing and it is all due to the 
success of their local fishing business!). So many details backing Gail's 
experiences in her book, are available online - including financial reports 
that show less than 10% of donations help the poor.

So many parallels between these reports and what I personally experienced in 
sai baba's ashram! They are greedy rotten apples, preying on our naive 
devotion. :-(




 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread authfriend
You know, indiff, you haven't been hanging out on FFL for more than a few days. 
It may not be appropriate for you to go around hurling the cultist label at 
folks you don't know very well. This group, and its members' relationships to 
Maharishi and the TMO (and to each other), are complicated and multifaceted, 
with a wide range of attitudes.
 

 I don't know much about Amma's organization, but I have the distinct 
impression there are some major differences between it and the TMO per se, and 
even more so between the members of the respective online groups. Instead of 
attacking the folks here who don't appear to agree with you about Amma, you 
might want to avoid trying to draw one-to-one parallels as if all such groups 
were more similar than different. Take your time and scope it out, and you may 
be able to have some interesting and productive discussions with us in which 
everyone learns something. If you go around alienating folks right off the bat, 
that's not likely.
 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Very good to know, thanks for clarifying that.
 

 I don't know Eileen personally, clearly she has spent a lot of time close to 
Sai Baba. I myself have a spent of lot of time in Amma's cult and know all the 
characters mentioned in her book including Amma, Swamis, Gail, the woman Anu 
Iyer who attacks Gail viciously on the website Rick posted. I will be happy to 
engage in any discussion, I can't speak for Eileen but looks like she could too.
 

 And then it becomes a moral imperative when cultists start attacking Gail who 
has was so severely abused. People like Rick forwarding attack sites or 
philosophies espoused by Buck such as evolutionary altruism or suggestion by 
cultists like Share that Gail is clearing some karmas by being abused by Amma.
 

 Pathetic. Sad. Sickening.
 

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Not sure where you got the notion that I had dismissed Eileen or questioned 
her motives.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 And authfriend please don't dismiss Eileen so lightly or question her motives.

You can briefly check who she is here - 
http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/22/divya.html

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi - no worries authfriend, I have no issues with discussion since I have been 
around the Amma scene for a really long time.
 

 The only reason I was compelled to post was because of Rick who posted what 
was nothing but an attack website from Amma org. I can shut up now :-)
 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 indifferent_netizen, I don't recall having seen you or Eileen on FFL before. 
Are you here only to publicize Tredwell's book and counter criticisms of it?
 

 I don't have a dog in the pro/anti-Amma fight. I'm just curious, wondering if 
your presence on FFL is sort of the other side of what's been portrayed as an 
effort by the pro-Amma folks to discredit Tredwell and her book. You seem 
pretty anxious to discredit anyone here who takes a pro-Amma stance. You may 
not be doing your cause much good by insulting them, if I may say so.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi thank you Eileen for your comments.

I had a chance to read your journey and experiences at Sai Baba's ashram online 
and they were very interesting. Thank you for taking such a courageous stand 
against the pedophile Sai Baba.

Interestingly some like Rick Archer talk against Maharishi and Sai Baba and 
give an absolute free pass to Amma. Gotta protect the current cult you are in 
:-)

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eileenweed@... wrote:

 Holy Hell is a totally valuable book, because how often do we get an insider 
view from someone who was actually the personal assistant of such a big-name 
guru, and for two long decades? So often these gurus are two-faced hypocrites, 
presenting a smiling, benevolent persona to the general public, then changing 
into their true colors in private behind closed doors. People like Sathya Sai 
Baba (much of my two decades inside Indian ashrams were spent at his ashram in 
Puttaparthi) and Mata Amritanandamayi no doubt inspire their devotees through 
their idealistic teachings, but part of that inspiration always lines the 
guru's pockets with more wealth. 

The fact is, as revealed in Gail's book and backed by a number of others who 
were close to the 'Hugging Amma', Amritanandamayi is violent with 
uncontrollable anger and harshly beats her attendants, she has sex with some of 
her top Swamis (who control the finances of the ashram empire - and who are 
also rapists), she orders murders of various people who come in her way - 
including her own brother (several police cases were halted by the powerful 
ashram authorities), she has made her family members multimillionaires (and 
then goes on record to say she gave 

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Not too intelligent are you empty - stop frothing so much, it's embarrassing. 
Discussions on Amma are very relevant here and take your bullshit elsewhere.
 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 Not so Indifferent sounds like a troll planted to defend an author

 who is irrelevant to FFL. 
 

 Hi - no worries authfriend, I have no issues with discussion since I have been 
around the Amma scene for a really long time.
The only reason I was compelled to post was because of Rick who posted what was 
nothing but an attack website from Amma org. I can shut up now. 
But of course he can't shut up. This is the mark of a true believer or true 
unbeliever. Maybe he'll start talking about Alien Lizzies next - like Bronte 
Baxter. 

This is FFL, not the Ex-Amma forum. We didn't waste our time engorging 
ourselves with Ravioli's yada-yada. Nor should we speculate whether Amma's 
Tamil political sentiments sludge Her hugs. Few people here give a damn about 
any of it. 

You appear fascinated by the vitriol spewed out by this troll-like persona 
(shades of unmasked zebra). Ex-Amma is where Not-So-Indifferent - Neti Neti 
Zen and his/her own psuchophantic anti-deliberations belong. 



 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 indifferent_netizen, I don't recall having seen you or Eileen on FFL before. 
Are you here only to publicize Tredwell's book and counter criticisms of it?
 

 I don't have a dog in the pro/anti-Amma fight. I'm just curious, wondering if 
your presence on FFL is sort of the other side of what's been portrayed as an 
effort by the pro-Amma folks to discredit Tredwell and her book. You seem 
pretty anxious to discredit anyone here who takes a pro-Amma stance. You may 
not be doing your cause much good by insulting them, if I may say so.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi thank you Eileen for your comments.

I had a chance to read your journey and experiences at Sai Baba's ashram online 
and they were very interesting. Thank you for taking such a courageous stand 
against the pedophile Sai Baba.

Interestingly some like Rick Archer talk against Maharishi and Sai Baba and 
give an absolute free pass to Amma. Gotta protect the current cult you are in 
:-)

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eileenweed@... wrote:

 Holy Hell is a totally valuable book, because how often do we get an insider 
view from someone who was actually the personal assistant of such a big-name 
guru, and for two long decades? So often these gurus are two-faced hypocrites, 
presenting a smiling, benevolent persona to the general public, then changing 
into their true colors in private behind closed doors. People like Sathya Sai 
Baba (much of my two decades inside Indian ashrams were spent at his ashram in 
Puttaparthi) and Mata Amritanandamayi no doubt inspire their devotees through 
their idealistic teachings, but part of that inspiration always lines the 
guru's pockets with more wealth. 

The fact is, as revealed in Gail's book and backed by a number of others who 
were close to the 'Hugging Amma', Amritanandamayi is violent with 
uncontrollable anger and harshly beats her attendants, she has sex with some of 
her top Swamis (who control the finances of the ashram empire - and who are 
also rapists), she orders murders of various people who come in her way - 
including her own brother (several police cases were halted by the powerful 
ashram authorities), she has made her family members multimillionaires (and 
then goes on record to say she gave them nothing and it is all due to the 
success of their local fishing business!). So many details backing Gail's 
experiences in her book, are available online - including financial reports 
that show less than 10% of donations help the poor.

So many parallels between these reports and what I personally experienced in 
sai baba's ashram! They are greedy rotten apples, preying on our naive 
devotion. :-(




 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread authfriend
Here's a suggestion: Why don't you talk about Amma and how awful she is rather 
than about individuals on FFL and how awful they are?
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi authfriend no issues it's easy for you to adopt a disinterested persona 
since as you say you are neither pro or anti Amma. However it is presumptuous 
on your part to assume I have a black and white philosophy, in fact it's very 
nuanced. But clearly I haven't had a chance to exhibit it yet since the only 
reason I started posting was to counter cultists like Rick, Buck and Share.



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Hi - yes the first part is Gail's journey which doesn't involve Amma and I 
found it very sincere, funny at times, very engaging regardless especially her 
time in Ramana Maharshi's ashram.

Please feel free to direct any questions towards me at any time.

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  This is getting more interesting by the moment. Having emerged from a cult 
myself and seeing a book written by a dear friend of mine about this said cult 
and having a chance to evaluate how accurate or inaccurate this account was I 
am fascinated to get all views on this Amma situation. I am currently reading 
Gail's book and so far it appears reasoned and untainted by gratuitous over the 
top criticisms. But then I'm only about 90 pages in.
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 

 braggadocio. 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Indeed authfriend seems to be a genuine, rational person even though I don't 
necessarily agree with what she has had to say to me on this thread. 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  Authfriend is worth listening to - a war horse in the best of possible ways. 
She is challenging but she is a defender of truth and abhors a liar or a 
phoney. Stay cool and tell your story. There are some of us who welcome reality 
here.
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Will do authfriend - as the need and context arises. But no one is condemned 
of course, you see I had to take a strong stand against the ignorance and 
dishonesty of these three posters - Rick, Buck and Share. As I said Buck and 
Share seemed pretty inane and harmless, Rick OTOH not. And astonishingly none 
of them surely has read the book. 
 

 Of course your suggestions are welcome, you are asking me to adopt a civil, 
balanced tone and I have nothing against it, unfortunately my samskaras are 
such that I react very strongly against ignorance and dishonesty. Rather than 
dispute and challenge of my assessments of these three posters you seem to be 
making gratuitous, presumptuous remarks about my motivations and intentions 
which I don't agree with. Perhaps you feel I'm a newcomer and thereby should be 
deferential in my conversation with old timers here and adopt a civil rather 
than inflammatory dialogue? Either way I don't agree with that - each poster 
whether new or old here has an equal right, freedom to conduct a dialogue on 
topics of their interest here while following the rules of this list.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Here's a suggestion: Why don't you talk about Amma and how awful she is rather 
than about individuals on FFL and how awful they are?
 

 

 





 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
Oh my god, someone please help me find a partner for Mr. Bill, someone he can 
converse with, someone who is at the same intellectual, emotional, 
psychological maturity level as Mr. Bill (read someone as intellectually, 
emotionally, psychologically retarded as Mr. Bill).
 

 Mr. Bill - please be aware of the rules for anonymity here. Don't know who 
Ravioli is but either way it's not cool. Stop acting a retarded,needy child.
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 You appear to be unable to submit any message other than an insult.
 It does not demonstrate a rational mind, as you claim, but rather an  
adolescent fixation. Not wonder you were easily fooled. 

 

 You must really be angry at your own naiveté. You must have been
 kicked off of a number of forums to end up here. 

 Maybe you are really just Ravioli. 

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 

 braggadocio. 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 



 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread indifferent_netizen
You dumb mother-fucker I have a right to post anonymously. Please stop 
referring to me as Ravi. May be you think you have a great thing by figuring 
out who I am - OMG hilarious.

Do you get it - you fucking retard?


  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 Ravi! 
 

 So good to have your insulting presence back on the forum.
 

 BTW - Do as you wish. Most of my personal info has already been
 revealed here. So how is Devi getting along with you? 
 

 Just be aware that Rick doesn't like your kind of threats and will probably 
take action excising you from the forum. I don't think he will consider any 
intercession on my part since he will probably see your antics as anti-forum. 

 

 Maybe Judy can plead with him on your behalf. 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Mr. Bill - let me know if you want to play this game, I have your full name, 
email, wife's name, when you married, where you live, your FB profile all 
ready. (In fact it's very easy to find out - but whatever)

Bill - next time just stick to the minor league where you belong. It doesn't 
matter how many scriptures you spew, constantly frothing at your mouth, almost 
choking on your parroted vomit - you are too emotionally, psychologically 
retarded to progress to the next level.

OK empty baby?

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 And who knows Mr. Bill I may also know your first and last name and may decide 
to out it.
 

 So learn when to keep your big fucking mouth shut, if you want to act like a 
retarded child find someone else.
 

 Get it?
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Oh my god, someone please help me find a partner for Mr. Bill, someone he can 
converse with, someone who is at the same intellectual, emotional, 
psychological maturity level as Mr. Bill (read someone as intellectually, 
emotionally, psychologically retarded as Mr. Bill).
 

 Mr. Bill - please be aware of the rules for anonymity here. Don't know who 
Ravioli is but either way it's not cool. Stop acting a retarded,needy child.
 

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 You appear to be unable to submit any message other than an insult.
 It does not demonstrate a rational mind, as you claim, but rather an  
adolescent fixation. Not wonder you were easily fooled. 

 

 You must really be angry at your own naiveté. You must have been
 kicked off of a number of forums to end up here. 

 Maybe you are really just Ravioli. 

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 

 braggadocio. 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 



 







 




RE: RE: Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-15 Thread sharelong60
Thanks, Emily, I think it's a great gift from life to be devoted, like how 
you're devoted to your daughters. Everyone here is devoted to someone or 
something. As for me, I'm not devoted to Amma nor even to Maharishi. As I get 
older, the object of my devotion has become well, less of an object. Hard to 
put into words without sounding corny, but here goes:

 When life itself has become the Beloved
 one falls in love at every moment
 sometimes even kicking and screaming
 a funny kind of ecstasy
 a fierce kind of embrace.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 You sound like a devotee.  Read the book Share.  It is a very interesting book 
and includes a lot of detail  on what it was like to live in India re: the 
culture, her journey, etc.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, 
fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace 
when all is said and done.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
   'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata 
Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-15 Thread emilymaenot
I agree with what you've said except:  Amma is absolutely fascinated by the 
adulation, power very clearly emotionally, psychologically immature, a product 
of her illiterate, unsophisticated culture and values. 
 

 While I agree that adulation and power are primary with her at this point and 
she is clearly abusive, I think she is also quite intelligent and exhibits a 
certain personality profile which has nothing necessarily to do her being a 
product of her upbringing and literacy.  I wouldn't call her culture or values 
unsophisticated necessarily either.  Interestingly, as a woman in the 
beginning, she was bucking the norm of male gurus. Reading the storyline of how 
the organization grew from the beginning to where it was at Gail's exit was 
also quite interesting.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Indeed - shocking forward by Rick. This is nothing but a vile attack website 
by Amma org.

Gail Tredwell is absolutely sincere and convincing, she shows an amazing lack 
of any bitterness or anger. The reader of this book will be no doubt influenced 
by Gail's objectivity. The fact that Gail has taken 14 years to publish this 
book is clearly reflected - she has spent lot of time healing, processing her 
emotional, psychological wounds.

My innocence is lost - the last I expected was sexual abuse, rape and Amma 
having sex with the swamis. Of course the most vivid portrayal of Amma in this 
book was as a serial verbal, physical, emotional and psychological abuser. Amma 
is absolutely fascinated by the adulation, power very clearly emotionally, 
psychologically immature, a product of her illiterate, unsophisticated culture 
and values.

A must read for anyone who has any interest in Amma.

  
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 The Amma org put this website together and included these stories to discredit 
Gail - they are in massive attack mode on as many fronts as possible.  Rick, 
come on now.  Have you read the book?  If so, come on out and state what you 
think.   
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Thanks, Rick.
 
 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:19 PM, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
   Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Rick Archer
Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/

http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/

 

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness

 

  

I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!

 

 

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM,  mailto:emilymae...@yahoo.com 
emilymae...@yahoo.com  mailto:emilymae...@yahoo.com emilymae...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

  

I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  



---In  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote:

Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

 

---In  mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote:

She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 

 

---In  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote:

Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 

 

---In  mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  
mailto:sharelong60@... sharelong60@... wrote:

Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the experiences 
you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?

 

On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM,  mailto:emilymaenot@... 
emilymaenot@...  mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote:

  

I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or followers 
or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days and is 
written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.  

 

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Rick.





On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:19 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 
wrote:
 
  
Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
 
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness
 
  
I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
 
 
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com 
emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:
Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?
 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:
She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create 
the need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to 
see her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review 
of sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  
Smile.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:
Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 
 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the 
experiences you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?
 
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
  
I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or 
followers or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days 
and is written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.  
 
 


RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread merudanda
'Amma's so called  shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata 
Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote:
 Emily, did you find that reading this book shed 

RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread merudanda
'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi 
could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote:
 Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on 

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Share Long
To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, 
fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace 
when all is said and done.





On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  
'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell 
last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi could be shot just few 
months before she left the  ashram-?
Should be at 46m28s - 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789

http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s - 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s








The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012


http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:


Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
 
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness
 
  
I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
 
 
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
  
I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:
Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?
 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:
She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create 
the need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to 
see her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review 
of sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  
Smile.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:
Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 
 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the 
experiences you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?
 
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
  
I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or 
followers or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days 
and is written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.  
 
 


RE: RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread merudanda
sorry 

 should work  if you copy and past the link ---at least...it works here on the 
other side of the globe

 it's too late night here---Rick ,noozeguru et  al may figure it out- to find 
Amma's shadow

 -go figure
 Seems like a go figure pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the 
go figure(it out) or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
 good night-good morning
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi 
could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 

Re: RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Share Long
Funnily enough, merudandaji, River of Love is what first introduced me to the 
kirtan of Krishna Das.
good night and as Anartaxius teaches us to say: may you have the best of all 
experience.





On Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:02 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
  
sorry 

should work  if you copy and past the link ---at least...it works here on the 
other side of the globe

it's too late night here---Rick ,noozeguru et  al may figure it out- to find 
Amma's shadow

-go figure
Seems like a go figure pointing away to the moon. Don't concentrate on the 
go figure(it out) or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
good night-good morning


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:


'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell 
last video :River of Love ◦ Mata Amritanandamayi could be shot just few 
months before she left the  ashram-?
Should be at 46m28s - 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789

http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s - 





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s








The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012


http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:


Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
 
 
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness
 
  
I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it 
was so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
 
 
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
  
I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I 
respect it and her fully.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:
Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know 
how I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with 
Gail Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from 
Amma. Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if 
you have spent time with her?
 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:
She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of 
Amma as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would 
create the need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to 
continue to see her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just 
gave it a review of sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people 
and their lives.  Smile.  
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:
Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at 
FFL. Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward 
to seeing what the author has to say. 
 
---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:
Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the 
experiences you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?
 
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
  
I would suggest 

RE: Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread emilymaenot
You sound like a devotee.  Read the book Share.  It is a very interesting book 
and includes a lot of detail  on what it was like to live in India re: the 
culture, her journey, etc.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, 
fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace 
when all is said and done.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
   'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata 
Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread emilymaenot
The Amma org put this website together and included these stories to discredit 
Gail - they are in massive attack mode on as many fronts as possible.  Rick, 
come on now.  Have you read the book?  If so, come on out and state what you 
think.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Thanks, Rick.
 
 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 12:19 PM, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
   Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 

  
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote:
 Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the experiences 
you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?
  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or followers 
or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days and is 
written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.  




  


















  








 





 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-14 Thread Bhairitu
Yahoo is burping badly or the NSA pigs are holding things up.  I 
responded to Share's response to my post earlier this morning and it 
hasn't shown up yet.


On 11/14/2013 01:02 PM, merudanda wrote:


sorry

should work  if you copy and past the link ---at least...it works here 
on the other side of the globe


it's too late night here---Rick ,noozeguru et  al may figure it out- 
to find Amma's shadow


-go figure

Seems like a /go figure/ pointing away to the /moon/. Don't 
concentrate on the go figure(it out)// or you will miss all that 
heavenly glory.


good night-good morning







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-13 Thread Share Long
I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!





On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com 
emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:


Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:


She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create 
the need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to 
see her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review 
of sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  
Smile.  



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:


Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the 
experiences you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?




On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
 
  
I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or 
followers or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days 
and is written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.  




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-12 Thread emilymaenot
She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the experiences 
you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
 
   I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or 
followers or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days and 
is written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.   
 

 
 



 
 
 
 


 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-12 Thread emilymaenot
I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 She wrote it largely to facilitate her healing process and it isn't a 
comprehensive look at the Amma organization, but it blows the lid off of Amma 
as the hugging saint or saint in any respect, in ways that would create the 
need for one to engage in some serious mind-bending denial to continue to see 
her (particularly as a hanger-on).  Well, I guess I just gave it a review of 
sorts, but pay no attention.  I like stories of people and their lives.  Smile. 
 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Emily, I have just purchased the book and it looks like a good read. I know 
really nothing about Amma other than what I have read about her here at FFL. 
Having emerged from a cult experience myself I will be looking forward to 
seeing what the author has to say. 
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Emily, did you find that reading this book shed some light on the experiences 
you and your daughters had when you went to see Amma in person?
 
 
 
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 1:39 AM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
 
   I would suggest this book by Gayatri (Gail) to any Amma devotees or 
followers or those that attend just for hugs.  It's easily read in two days and 
is written sincerely and truthfully and fairly.