Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
On 1/12/2014 4:54 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: You are absol ... fuckin.. uutaaly right. I was never initiated into Willy-ism. Go finger ... So, this is what resulted from from you learning the mahârudrâbhishekam, but your guru failed to teach you the rudiments of spiritual discourse. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years Ann. Well, whatever it is you have been taught or think you know, what good is it if you continue to take yourself so seriously? I mean, really, all this teaching you have subjected yourself to has done nothing for your ability to lighten up or drop the pride. Still, it could be worse - I guess. Good point, Ann. So, for what purpose I wonder, would anyone need to learn how to perform the mahârudrâbhishekam? In TM practice you get only one single mantra to meditate on. This one single syllable contains the secret of the universe, if there is one. All you need is one mantra to meditate on and you will get as much enlightenment as you are going to get. If one mantra is not enough for anyone to experience PC, how would a whole gaggle of nonsense syllables, plus some some arm waving and finger-snapping, increase their odds of obtaining a sustained mental equipoise Go figure. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 7:02 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it. Well, whatever it is you have been taught or think you know, what good is it if you continue to take yourself so seriously? I mean, really, all this teaching you have subjected yourself to has done nothing for your ability to lighten up or drop the pride. Still, it could be worse - I guess.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: On 1/12/2014 4:54 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: You are absol ... fuckin.. uutaaly right. I was never initiated into Willy-ism. Go finger ... So, this is what resulted from from you learning the mahârudrâbhishekam, but your guru failed to teach you the rudiments of spiritual discourse. Go figure. Oh, I think he has the rude-i-ments down alright.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
emptybill wrote: he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. Your teacher may have been confused. As a Buddhist tantric you would be knowing that there's no shakti mentioned in Tibetan Buddhism. According to my guru, The Lama, there is wisdom and means; male - female polarity, but the female is the wisdom aspect and the male aspect is means, represented by the Tibetan vajra and bell respectively. The vajra is representative of upaya (skilful means) whereas its companion tool, the bell which is a female symbol, denotes prajna (wisdom). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vajra On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:11 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. You two are comparing apples to oranges, but I'm practicing tantra with a real live shakti. There's nothing wrong with self-starting but it doesn't compare to the real deal. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it. I've tried to dumb it down as much as I could. Let's see if you can understand this: 1.3 jus b reg 2 x y med, ne alt sans 3 guns, seps abs, n' eyes-wide shut; nodoze, no bear down, u enjoy. ( Wallah Sutra 1.3) According to MY, most people are born in a state of mental equipoise but quickly loose it, either through karma, bad diet, bad treatment, extreme stress, or moving away from the physical location most conducive to their natural constitution and temperament. Everyone is recommended to discover for themselves what the optimum conditions for them might be and to try to keep themselves on an even keel. The primary method for returning and maintaining a state of mental equipoise is meditation that is transcendental, and as a supplementary practice, the siddhis, in which stress is replaced with bubbling bliss. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:11 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Nice, Richard. I'm just old enough to realize the value of staying on an even keel and doing what helps that in terms of diet, sleep, exercise, etc. I also like that the good doctor said: moderation in everything. But don't miss anything. OTOH I have missed a few things like LSD and don't mind that I have! On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:45 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. You two are comparing apples to oranges, but I'm practicing tantra with a real live shakti. There's nothing wrong with self-starting but it doesn't compare to the real deal. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it. I've tried to dumb it down as much as I could. Let's see if you can understand this: 1.3 jus b reg 2 x y med, ne alt sans 3 guns, seps abs, n' eyes-wide shut; nodoze, no bear down, u enjoy. ( Wallah Sutra 1.3) According to MY, most people are born in a state of mental equipoise but quickly loose it, either through karma, bad diet, bad treatment, extreme stress, or moving away from the physical location most conducive to their natural constitution and temperament. Everyone is recommended to discover for themselves what the optimum conditions for them might be and to try to keep themselves on an even keel. The primary method for returning and maintaining a state of mental equipoise is meditation that is transcendental, and as a supplementary practice, the siddhis, in which stress is replaced with bubbling bliss. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:11 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Mankind's propensity for irrational violence seems to rest substantially on insane metaphysical systems that infect its members. Islam is not based on service to Allah, it is based on service to the ideas in a book about something that in that book that is called 'Allah'. As with many other similar systems, it has dire consequences for civilisation, although this one is particularly pernicious as it is centred in a medieval mindset. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Your Constitution is is not revealed by Allah. The sword is your destiny unless you submit and beg to be His slave. Read it and weep infidel. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/09/The-Islamization-of-America-in-2013 http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/01/09/The-Islamization-of-America-in-2013
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
So will you convert or die? Sufism is the last castle still existing of Neo-Platonism but it is under attack by the Wahabi-s and Jihadists. They hate and kill Sufi-s like they kill kafir-s. You worship polytheistic devils posing as gods. You say their devil-name emblems in your demon-worship meditations. That make you an enemy of Allah (al-llah the deity). However, there is only one deity (La ilaha illa Allah) who has no associates or equals. Also, there is only one final divine messenger (Muhammadun rasulu'Llah) who abrogates all others. Wake up and smell the stink of headless bodies in the streets.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Typical clap-trap appeasement.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning or meditate facing south? ;-) On 01/12/2014 09:30 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Typical clap-trap appeasement.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
After death, bodies are turned with the head facing South to signal the yama-dhutas to come and lead the soul to Lord Yama. Which is why Jñana Dakshinamurti Shiva sits in meditation facing South. He is the preceptor residing in unborn-undying awareness (jñana-chaitanyam) - marking death as just an idea in the mind of the deluded. So thank you for the compliment. I'll try and remind the jihadi-s that you are a KINO - a kafir in name only.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
So says the book learned tantric. And you criticize Willy. Go figure. On 01/12/2014 11:08 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: After death, bodies are turned with the head facing South to signal the yama-dhutas to come and lead the soul to Lord Yama. Which is why Jñana Dakshinamurti Shiva sits in meditation facing South. He is the preceptor residing in unborn-undying awareness (jñana-chaitanyam) - marking death as just an idea in the mind of the deluded. So thank you for the compliment. I'll try and remind the jihadi-s that you are a KINO - a kafir in name only.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Empty, The article is overly fearful of Muslims here in the USA. As of date, Muslims represent only about one percent of the population according to Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Well it's Breitbart, what do you think? They'd love to cut off the heads of everyone who isn't conservative. :-D On 01/12/2014 11:59 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Empty, The article is overly fearful of Muslims here in the USA. As of date, Muslims represent only about one percent of the population according to Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
More appeasement. You are asleep about the constitutional threat. However, don't worry about it. Just take two Valium and call everything perfectly fine.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
But you were never initiated into the practice. You obviously didn't get the humor siddhi either. :-D On 01/12/2014 01:11 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Obviously defiled ... right commissar?
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
You are absol ... fuckin.. uutaaly right. I was never initiated into Willy-ism. Go finger ...
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: Actually, you have no idea what you are talking about . As you know, I had a ritvikâcharya teach me mahârudrâbhishekam. Over a period of 5-6 years he also imparted much of the Vedika view of values. According to him, the Tantrika view was that the universe was actualized by limitless shakti-s that structured its being, patterns and interactions. The only thing he wouldn't yield about was teaching me the mechanics of agni-hotra (although he performed one for me at the installation of my shiva-lingam). I believe he considered me too far from being a renouncer and therefore prone to get into trouble with an agni-hotra ... all because if done properly, the yajñamana receives the results quickly and decisively. You also forget that I have a Vajrayana Tantric and Dzogchen teacher. Certainly different practices but when he first saw my altar he pointed to the traditionally carved shiva lingam and commented “original Tantra”. All this means that your evaluation is a parody of a Willy-ism - which is as much value as I can give it. Well, whatever it is you have been taught or think you know, what good is it if you continue to take yourself so seriously? I mean, really, all this teaching you have subjected yourself to has done nothing for your ability to lighten up or drop the pride. Still, it could be worse - I guess.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
Re You obviously didn't get the humour siddhi : Wow! That's the one they should be teaching. Religions have tended to assume that a serious approach to the practice is the same as a solemn approach. (That's one reason I was attracted to Aleister Crowley - he introduced humour into mystical writing. The Zen people understood the same thing - witness the sketches of their Zen masters . . .
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
In chanukistan they proly prefer live and let live. I figure it is the French influence - bend over and take it in the end. However, sometimes I have to remind the frothing critters that I don't make this stuff up but rather advance a traditional view of spiritual life i.e. advaita, tantra, dzogchen. Whether you like, dislike, accept or, reject is incidental to me since you just make it up anyway. You have no basis to evaluate these teachings because you are not trained in them. Your assessment that they are based upon pride is just more self-referenced emotion.to me since it implies that you are an oracle uniquely qualified to assay my intent. It ain't necessarily so but so what? . Perhaps you have become the new World Teacher. Robin would be so proud.
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Islamization of America in 2013
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote: In chanukistan they proly prefer live and let live. I figure it is the French influence - bend over and take it in the end. However, sometimes I have to remind the frothing critters that I don't make this stuff up but rather advance a traditional view of spiritual life i.e. advaita, tantra, dzogchen. Whether you like, dislike, accept or, reject is incidental to me since you just make it up anyway. You have no basis to evaluate these teachings because you are not trained in them. Your assessment that they are based upon pride is just more self-referenced emotion.to me since it implies that you are an oracle uniquely qualified to assay my intent. It ain't necessarily so but so what? . Oh silly prideful not-so-empty-as-you-would-like-to-think, I was talking about YOU not the teachings. You are the guy who feels so chuffed, so full of himself because you think you know better and deeper what others do not. Is this part of the result that these teachings hope their alumni are able to portray as aptly and strongly as you do? My assessment has nothing to do with what your teachers know. It has to do with how you come across all holier than thou and twice as smart. But, for me, your long years of setting up altars and lingams and burying your nose in books means nothing because you still come across like some ivory tower dwelling know-it-all who is uptight, persnickety and humourless. My call: you take yourself way too seriously and you get a little mean when your expertise is questioned. Perhaps you have become the new World Teacher. Not yet. Robin would be so proud. Au contraire, mon frere. He likes me just the way I am - in ignorance, real and true.
