[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2nd Letter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear John, I am writing to you again just in case you have not had a chance to read my first letter, dated August 2, 2006, regarding my dome rejection. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ACCEPTED FOR THE DOME!!! I honestly expressed My Highest Truth in that letter and I would truly appreciate a response, any response, especially whether you received it or not, and what Maharishi wants me to do. PLEASE READ MY FIRST LETTER TO MAHARISHI. I know most people working for Maharishi may be afraid to let him know what some of his governors have done to get in the dome, but I know you have INTEGRITY and will tell him the truth. Those governors who do not know Maharishi's intentions about them visiting other saints or using other self improvement techniques, should be told by Maharishi on the daily phone calls to the course, what he really expects, regarding this very important issue Just because they were not asked if they do other things, many governors have justified that it's o.k with Maharishi, and that they would not be in the dome unless he wanted them there. They feel those who are not there, somehow could be, if THEY REALLY WANTED IT. Everyone has to start being accountable for their actions, including the MOVEMENT REPRESENTASTIVES! I feel that THE RULES OF DOME ACCEPTANCE SHOULD APPY TO EVERYONE! A few should not be rejected if the many are doing the same things Everyone should be asked the same questions... whether they visit the saints! Not just those who are on some administrative black list. This is just common sense. This is also how many people, that I have talked to, feel avout it. Someone actually said to me the other night: Why do want to spoil it for the rest of us? Why didn't you just keep quiet. So many people visit saints in India or other cities around the U.S. and the world. I guess they feel that if they don't do it in Fairfield then it's o.k. No one will catch me, seems to be the theme. PLEASE DO NOT GET ME WRONG I do not feel that visiting the saints is in ANY WAY WRONG... To the contrary it is A GREAT GIFT to those who have the grace to receive it. I feel anyone who wishes to visit the saints should be encouraged to do so. As it is stated in the VEDAS KEEP THE COMPANY OF THE SAINTS. A lot of people over the years have felt THE MOVEMENT REPRESENTATIVES have lied to them. They somehoe feel that Maharishi doesn't say the things they hear from course officials. MAHARISHI PLEASE ADDRESS THIS POINT!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR IT FROM YOU WHAT YOU REALLY EXPECT! My first letter to you has somehow made it on the internet on the Fairfield Life site. I hope in some way this is helpful to others who have also not compromised their integrity, just to get their Dome Badge. John, I would like to be accepted for the dome, having told the TRUTH about my life. I could have very easily lied when I was questioned but I chose to be completely HONEST and NOT HIDE ANYTHING ABOUT MY SPIRITUAL LIFE. Please respond to me, Shiva Ma First Letter from ShivaMa: FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, My Dome Rejection Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you think may benefit from it. All Love, Shiva Ma My Dome rejection Shiva Ma Ryan to John Hagelin Aug 2 (5 days ago) Dear John, I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at the dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with one of the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share this letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know THE REAL TRUTH about what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have written in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and as TRUTHFUL as I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that may benefit EVERYONE! When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time to be processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate acceptance, because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced any techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT saint from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man questioning me I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and that what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the question to over 600 people that I initiated, back in the seventies: Everything we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree? This answer seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me, yet I was not accepted then for the dome. This past Saturday July
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. Just about everyone knows this. FFLifers will use any excuse to rag on MMY and the TMO, however... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life. This is the way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a surprise. The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some honest dealing or dialogue out of them. I'd like to ask her where she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so. Sal On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life. This is the way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a surprise. The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some honest dealing or dialogue out of them. I'd like to ask her where she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so. Not only that, but the fact that they're allowing prior policy violators back in the domes at all is a major compromise on the TMO's part. Sure, the policies suck ass, but compromises involve both parties, and it's not reasonable to expect the TMO to both allow prior violators back in the domes *and* do away with the policies altogether. People wanting in on this compromise deal must also bring something to the table, in this case, a pledge to not violate the policies in the future. The domes are the TMO's toys, and they get to make the rules. Don't like it? Too bad. On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
In a message dated 8/9/06 11:50:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. Exactly! First of all she needs to drop the Shiva Ma crap. Then she should have told the course offices exactly what they wanted to hear. I don't think M nor the course offices care about anybody's honesty. They just want to feel comfortable they aren't letting somebody like Shiva Ma onto the course. As for her sinning by telling a lie, M doesn't care if you sin. M told a Jewish boy that objected to bowing before Guru Dev after Puja that he has sinned so many other times, "what's one more sin". She has her own personal conflict that she has to decide for herself. Speak the truth always or participate in creating world peace. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
The TM-org does not mind if you lie to get into the dome.?? Maharishi is right in insisting his meditation be practiced in hs dome. But trying to excert omnipresent control over the peoples lives by preventing them from visiting other teachers is Loony. Besides the TM-org itself tells a lot of lies. Yogic-flying is a huge Hog-Wash. All you will end up with are compressed discs and injured Vertebrae.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:06:49 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "My Dome Rejection" Second Letter to Hagelin's Office Exactly! First of all she needs to drop the Shiva Ma crap. Then she should have told the course offices exactly what they wanted to hear. I don't think M nor the course offices care about anybody's honesty. They just want to feel comfortable they aren't letting somebody like Shiva Ma onto the course. As for her sinning by telling a lie, M doesn't care if you sin. M told a Jewish boy that objected to bowing before Guru Dev after Puja that he has sinned so many other times, "what's one more sin". She has her own personal conflict that she has to decide for herself. Speak the truth always or participate in creating world peace. Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life. This is the way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a surprise. The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some honest dealing or dialogue out of them. I'd like to ask her where she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so. Sal SAL!!! THAT IS SO INSENSITIVE You must look beyond your ego. NOW IN THE BRIGHTNESS OF LOVE! YOU BASTARD!! -Lingha Padma Swami On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life. This is the way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a surprise. The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some honest dealing or dialogue out of them. I'd like to ask her where she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so. Sal SAL!!! THAT IS SO INSENSITIVE You must look beyond your ego. NOW IN THE BRIGHTNESS OF LOVE! YOU BASTARD!! Sal is not Salvatore, but Sally. So your line should read YOU BITCH, not YOU BASTARD. -Lingha Padma Swami On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life. This is the way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a surprise. The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some honest dealing or dialogue out of them. I'd like to ask her where she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so. Sal SAL!!! THAT IS SO INSENSITIVE You must look beyond your ego. NOW IN THE BRIGHTNESS OF LOVE! YOU BASTARD!! Sal is not Salvatore, but Sally. So your line should read YOU BITCH, not YOU BASTARD. ALL IS ONE YOU BASTARDLY BITCH! WHY DO I KEEP SHOUTING WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? -Lingha Padma Swami On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote: This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep her out. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/