[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread elastomeric_brotherhood
This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters 
will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep 
her out.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2nd Letter
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Dear John,
 
 I am writing to you again just in case you have not had a chance to
 read my first letter, dated August 2, 2006, regarding my dome
 rejection. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ACCEPTED FOR THE DOME!!!
 
 I honestly expressed My Highest Truth in that letter and I would
 truly appreciate a response, any response, especially whether you
 received it or not, and what Maharishi wants me to do. PLEASE READ 
MY
 FIRST LETTER TO MAHARISHI.
 
  I know most people working for Maharishi may be afraid to let him
 know what some of his governors have done to get in the dome, but I
 know you have INTEGRITY and will tell him the truth. Those governors
 who do not know Maharishi's intentions about them visiting other
 saints or using other self improvement techniques, should  be told 
by
 Maharishi on the daily phone calls to the course, what he really
 expects, regarding this very important issue
 
  Just because they were not asked if they do other things, many
 governors have  justified that it's o.k with Maharishi, and that 
they
 would not be in the dome unless he wanted them there. They feel 
those
 who are not there, somehow could be, if THEY REALLY WANTED IT.
 Everyone has to start being accountable for their actions, including
 the MOVEMENT REPRESENTASTIVES!
 
  I feel that THE RULES OF DOME ACCEPTANCE SHOULD APPY TO
 EVERYONE!  A few should not be rejected if the many are 
 doing
 the same things Everyone should be asked the same 
 questions...
 whether they visit the saints!  Not just those who are on some
 administrative black list. This is just common sense.  This is 
also
 how many people, that I have talked to,  feel avout it.
 
 Someone actually said to me the other night:  Why do want to spoil 
 it
 for the rest of us? Why didn't you just keep quiet.  So many people
 visit saints in India or other cities around the U.S. and the 
world. 
 I
 guess they feel that if they don't do it in Fairfield then it's o.k.
 No one will catch me, seems to be the theme.
 
 PLEASE DO NOT GET ME WRONG I do not feel that visiting the saints is
 in ANY WAY WRONG... To the contrary it is A GREAT GIFT to those who
 have the grace to receive it. I feel anyone who wishes to visit the
 saints should be encouraged to do so. As it is stated in the VEDAS
 KEEP THE COMPANY OF THE SAINTS.
 
  A lot of people over the years have felt THE MOVEMENT
 REPRESENTATIVES have lied to them. They somehoe feel that Maharishi
 doesn't say the things they hear from course officials. MAHARISHI
 PLEASE ADDRESS THIS POINT!! EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR IT FROM YOU
 WHAT YOU REALLY EXPECT!
 
 My first letter to you has somehow  made it on the internet on the
 Fairfield Life site. I hope in some way this is helpful to others
 who have also not compromised their integrity,  just to get their
 Dome Badge.
 
 John, I would like to be accepted for the dome, having told the
 TRUTH about my life. I could have very easily lied when I was
 questioned but I chose to be completely HONEST and NOT HIDE 
ANYTHING
 ABOUT MY SPIRITUAL LIFE.
 
 Please respond to me,
 Shiva Ma
 
 
 
 First Letter from ShivaMa:
 
 
  FWD:From Shiva Ma Ryan, My Dome Rejection
  Please share this letter I wrote to John Hagelin with anyone you 
  think
  may benefit from it.
  All Love,
  Shiva Ma
  
  My Dome rejection
  
  Shiva Ma Ryan  to  John Hagelin
  
  Aug 2 (5 days ago)
  
  Dear John,
  I was told to e-mail you if I had any trouble getting accepted at 
 the
  dome. Hence this letter to you, because I have been faced with 
one 
 of
  the most difficult choices of my life. John will you PLEASE share 
  this
  letter with Maharishi, as I want Him to know THE REAL TRUTH  
 about
  what has happened in Fairfield. Please read everything I have 
 written
  in this e-mail John, I have tried to be as honest and 
 as TRUTHFUL 
  as
  I can. I also have suggestions at the end of this e-mail, that may
  benefit EVERYONE!
  
  When I applied for the course, I was told I would need more time 
 to 
  be
  processed. I knew I probably would not get an immediate 
acceptance,
  because a few years ago I applied and was asked if I practiced any
  techniques other than Maharishi's. I went to India with a GREAT 
 saint
  from Asam, India, Shree Maa, in 1999, and I told the man 
 questioning
  me I had experienced EVERYTHING that India had to offer, and that
  what I learned in private, I kept private. I had asked the 
 question 
  to
  over 600 people that I initiated,  back in the 
 seventies: Everything
  we learn in private, we keep private. Do you agree? This answer
  seemed the most truthful and appropriate to me,  yet I was not
  accepted then for the dome.
  
  This past Saturday July 

[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, elastomeric_brotherhood [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:

 This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters 
 will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep 
 her out.


Just about everyone knows this. FFLifers will use any excuse to rag on MMY and 
the TMO, 
however...






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread Sal Sunshine
I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life.  This is the way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a surprise.  The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some honest dealing or dialogue out of them.  I'd like to ask her where she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so.

Sal


On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote:

This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters 
will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep 
her out.


[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a life.  This is the 
 way it's been for years, and it really should come as not much of a 
 surprise.  The surprise is that anyone thinks they might get some 
 honest dealing or dialogue out of them.  I'd like to ask her where 
 she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so.
 
Not only that, but the fact that they're allowing prior policy
violators back in the domes at all is a major compromise on the TMO's
part. Sure, the policies suck ass, but compromises involve both
parties, and it's not reasonable to expect the TMO to both allow prior
violators back in the domes *and* do away with the policies
altogether. People wanting in on this compromise deal must also bring
something to the table, in this case, a pledge to not violate the
policies in the future. The domes are the TMO's toys, and they get to
make the rules. Don't like it? Too bad.
 
 On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood wrote:
 
  This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters
  will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep
  her out.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 8/9/06 11:50:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  
  This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally distraught letters 
  will get her into the dome. If anything, they are good reason to keep 
  her out.

Exactly! First of all she needs to drop the Shiva Ma crap. Then she should 
have told the course offices exactly what they wanted to hear. I don't think M 
nor the course offices care about anybody's honesty. They just want to feel 
comfortable they aren't letting somebody like Shiva Ma onto the course. As for 
her sinning by telling a lie, M doesn't care if you sin. M told a Jewish boy 
that objected to bowing before Guru Dev after Puja that he has sinned so many 
other times, "what's one more sin". She has her own personal conflict that she 
has to decide for herself. Speak the truth always or participate in creating 
world peace.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread Jason Spock



 The TM-org does not mind if you lie to get into the dome.?? Maharishi is right in insisting his meditation be practiced in hs dome. But trying to excert omnipresent control over the peoples lives by preventing them from visiting other teachers is Loony. Besides the TM-org itself tells a lot of lies. Yogic-flying is a huge Hog-Wash. All you will end up with are compressed discs and injured Vertebrae.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 15:06:49 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "My Dome Rejection" Second Letter to Hagelin's Office 
   Exactly! First of all she needs to drop the Shiva Ma crap. Then she should have told the course offices exactly what they wanted to hear. I don't think M nor the course offices care about anybody's honesty. They just want to feel comfortable they aren't letting somebody like Shiva Ma onto the course. As for her sinning by telling a lie, M doesn't care if you sin. M told a Jewish boy that objected to bowing before Guru Dev after Puja that he has sinned so many other times, "what's one more sin". She has her own personal conflict that she has to decide for herself. Speak the truth always or participate in creating world peace. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread Peter


--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a
 life.  This is the 
 way it's been for years, and it really should come
 as not much of a 
 surprise.  The surprise is that anyone thinks they
 might get some 
 honest dealing or dialogue out of them.  I'd like to
 ask her where 
 she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so.
 
 Sal

SAL!!! THAT IS SO INSENSITIVE You must look beyond
your ego. NOW IN THE BRIGHTNESS OF LOVE! YOU BASTARD!!

-Lingha Padma Swami






 
 
 On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood
 wrote:
 
  This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally
 distraught letters
  will get her into the dome. If anything, they are
 good reason to keep
  her out.
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get a
  life.  This is the 
  way it's been for years, and it really should come
  as not much of a 
  surprise.  The surprise is that anyone thinks they
  might get some 
  honest dealing or dialogue out of them.  I'd like to
  ask her where 
  she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so.
  
  Sal
 
 SAL!!! THAT IS SO INSENSITIVE You must look beyond
 your ego. NOW IN THE BRIGHTNESS OF LOVE! YOU BASTARD!!


Sal is not Salvatore, but Sally.

So your line should read YOU BITCH, not YOU BASTARD.





 
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  On Aug 9, 2006, at 11:48 AM, elastomeric_brotherhood
  wrote:
  
   This woman is nuts if she thinks these emotionally
  distraught letters
   will get her into the dome. If anything, they are
  good reason to keep
   her out.
  
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dome Rejection Second Letter to Hagelin's Office

2006-08-09 Thread Peter


--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I agree, this woman needs to get a grip and get
 a
   life.  This is the 
   way it's been for years, and it really should
 come
   as not much of a 
   surprise.  The surprise is that anyone thinks
 they
   might get some 
   honest dealing or dialogue out of them.  I'd
 like to
   ask her where 
   she's been for the last, say, 25 years or so.
   
   Sal
  
  SAL!!! THAT IS SO INSENSITIVE You must look
 beyond
  your ego. NOW IN THE BRIGHTNESS OF LOVE! YOU
 BASTARD!!
 
 
 Sal is not Salvatore, but Sally.
 
 So your line should read YOU BITCH, not YOU
 BASTARD.

ALL IS ONE YOU BASTARDLY BITCH! WHY DO I KEEP
SHOUTING WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME? 



 
 
 
 
 
  
  -Lingha Padma Swami
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
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