[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: While I usually enjoyed my programs, there was never anything flashy going on. As years passed, it even seemed that the multitude of changes I had noticed in myself when I first began meditating ... had dwindled

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:36 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness My friend's response to Barry's comments: How could one

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: On Behalf Of turquoiseb My friend's response to Barry's comments: How could one possibly describe that or know that? In my case I have definitely become more even,more patient, more tender and loving towards all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/02/2011 02:37 PM, Vaj wrote: On May 2, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing, as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come out of

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness My friend said, Well, we all have our own points of view

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread whynotnow7
Agreed - it is mechanical. Enlightenment is for the masses, and becoming much less rare. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 05/02/2011 02:37 PM, Vaj wrote: On May 2, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Logically CC should not be a binary experience.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of turquoiseb Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 11:07 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-03 Thread whynotnow7
:14 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Thanks for posting this. This is beautiful especially the parts - I know this is no accomplishment of mine and If my life serves no other purpose, it is to demonstrate that, if this can happen to someone like me, it can

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: Rick This is one of the most heartfelt, direct and moving accounts. Thank you. Agreed. An posted by none other than one of the foremost TMO-bashers of the century. Something good must be happening :-) In addition to what

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: Rick This is one of the most heartfelt, direct and moving accounts. Thank you. I agree that this is a nicely done, low-key rap, and I commend whoever wrote it for that. I might have some writerly quibbles about some of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2011, at 3:36 AM, turquoiseb wrote: That's the missing component of pretty much all of the raps about enlightenment I run across. It's almost as if the process of self realization can be described more accurately as selfish realization in most of them. It seemed typical of TMer

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote [regarding Rick Archer's post]: I agree that this is a nicely done, low-key rap, and I commend whoever wrote it for that. I might have some writerly quibbles about some of the language, like CC arrived and had come, because my

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: All that seems to matter is the person's subjective sense of their own subjective state of consciousness. We never hear of ways in which this subjective state proves itself of value to anyone else in the objective world.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: All that seems to matter is the person's subjective sense of their own subjective state of consciousness. We never hear of ways in which this subjective

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: All that seems to matter is the person's subjective sense of their own

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread whynotnow7
Barry appears endlessly frustrated by his own efforts as a seeker,externalizing his frustrations instead on 'others' . I'd answer his question by saying there is no apparent benefit of a self realized person to others, only to themselves. Further, the ripening state of self realization is one

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Still, having one less person looking for love -- and satisfaction -- in all the wrong places seems to be a positive step for humanity. Only if

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:33 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Bhairitu
On 05/02/2011 12:36 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71wayback71@... wrote: Rick This is one of the most heartfelt, direct and moving accounts. Thank you. I agree that this is a nicely done, low-key rap, and I commend whoever wrote it for that. I might have

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Vaj
On May 2, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing, as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come out of meditation and that the experience of

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness In my experience talking to people, some experience a clear

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread whynotnow7
: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Buck
Rick, what a fine account. Could you use it on the home page for FairfieldLife? You know, stick it underneath that Bertrand Russell quote and skip the rest of that other stuff there. Just leave the FFL home page description with parts of this person's essay as FFL. You know, let the

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread whynotnow7
@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness In my experience talking to people, some

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Then they might be experiencing growing awareness or just relaxation, but it very likely not turiyatita. The transition to CC or turiyatita, at least the way yogis have been experiencing it for thousands of years is

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread whynotnow7
Yeah, logically there has to be conditioning prior to permanent awakening. But that isn't necessarily the same thing as recognizing it as such, as it happens. I recall despite the underlying conditioning towards support of awakening (which was creating a huge cognitive dissonance in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Ravi Yogi
Nice comments Tartji, I would say that Enlightenment is not a thing of utility. Enlightenment is a state where you realize that you need not be a millionaire with a million dollar wife, a million dollar car, a million dollar house and million dollar kids to be happy. You don't have to help

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Peter
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness  Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on  and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing,  as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come out

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread Peter
in realization. Now they actually point towards something, as it were and help the mind cope. --- On Mon, 5/2/11, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-02 Thread whynotnow7
whynotnow7@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 6:45 PM Yeah, logically there has to be conditioning prior to permanent  awakening. But that isn't necessarily the same thing as recognizing

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-01 Thread Ravi Yogi
Thanks for posting this. This is beautiful especially the parts - I know this is no accomplishment of mine and If my life serves no other purpose, it is to demonstrate that, if this can happen to someone like me, it can happen to anyone - these definitely resonate with how I felt. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-01 Thread wayback71
Rick This is one of the most heartfelt, direct and moving accounts. Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Cosmic consciousness arrived, softly and unexpectedly, as I exited the Dome one morning in November 2008. I was 64 years old. I had been doing

[FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness

2011-05-01 Thread merudanda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: Cosmic consciousness arrived, softly and unexpectedly, as I exited the Dome one morning in November 2008. I was 64 years old. I had been doing Transcendental Meditation since 1973 and the TM-Sidhi Program since 1978. How