[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : So you're saying that an enlightened person loses the ability to descriminate between a flower and a duck? Or loses the ability to name things because they see the fundamental unity in the diversity? That reads like you've

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Lawson, there's a wonderful tape in which someone asks Maharishi if in Unity a person could marry anyone. Maharishi laughs and then explains that differences don't disappear in Unity. It's just that they no longer dominate awareness. On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:43 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep. I was curious about that when he said it, as I wasn't sure what sort of perceptual change would occur, perhaps even through the senses. It is actually the introduction of an ever deepening and abiding silence, inside and out, which unifies all the diversity, and even softens any negative

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fleetwood, I had an experience of Unity once. But it wasn't so much about silence. It was so subtly about familiarity. Everything I was perceiving seemed so familiar to me. Not because it was known in the usual sense. But because it was as familiar to me as I am to myself. Very very subtle, yet

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yeah, that is what I call silence, or bliss, I don't know what else to call it - it has a lot of attributes, and you use a great word for it - familiarity. That being the case, knowledge automatically follows attention; there are no boundaries to formally navigate, between subject and object,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-23 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Well, maybe, maybe not. Pure consciousness during TM seems to be very closely aligned with EEG of the preliminary aspect of creativity found in non-meditation research on creativity, and the EEG found in really-long-term TMers (especially those participating in the Invincible America course)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
This may be above my pay-grade, but if one is a transcendentalist/idealist, then belief in classic cause and effect is incompatible with that belief . . . or one has to significantly qualify what is meant by cause and effect. Many folks who refer to them selves as transcendentalists/idealists

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The way Maharishi explained the illusion of Maya is rather different than what a lot of people understand. Consciousness is not an illusion, nor is what most people call reality. The illusion is that there is a fundamental difference between them. This is the veil of maya: a thin,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The way Maharishi explained the illusion of Maya is rather different than what a lot of people understand. Consciousness is not an illusion, nor is what most people call reality. The illusion is that there is a fundamental

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/22/2014 3:07 PM, inmadi...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This may be above my pay-grade, but if one is a transcendentalist/idealist, then belief in classic cause and effect is incompatible with that belief . . . or one has to significantly qualify what is meant by cause and effect.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Consciousness Is The Ultimate Reality, was Belief in God is a form of mental illness

2014-10-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
So you're saying that an enlightened person loses the ability to descriminate between a flower and a duck? Or loses the ability to name things because they see the fundamental unity in the diversity? L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In