[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
...repeated his opposition to homosexuality...

I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, 
Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights.








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 LONDON, ENGLAND, March 31, 2006: The exiled Tibetan spiritual 
leader told
 The Daily Telegraph that terrorists should be treated humanely. He 
also
 revealed the workings of his relationship with US President George 
W. Bush,
 said Westerners had become too self-absorbed and repeated his 
opposition to
 homosexuality in a wide-ranging interview. The Dalai Lama said 
modern
 terrorism was born out of jealousy of Western 
lifestyles. Fundamentalism is
 terrifying because it is based purely on emotion, rather than 
intelligence,
 the 70-year-old monk said at the seat of his government-in-exile 
in the
 northern Indian hilltop town of Dharamsala. It prevents followers 
from
 thinking as individuals and about the good of the world. This new 
terrorism
 has been brewing for many years. Much of it is caused by jealousy 
and
 frustration at the West because it looks so highly developed and 
successful
 on television. Leaders in the East use religion to counter that, 
to bind
 these cou ntries together.  Terrorists, he warned, must be treated
 humanely. Otherwise, the problem will escalate. If there is one 
Bin Laden
 killed today, soon there will be 10 Bin Ladens. Awesome. Ten Bin 
Ladens
 killed, the hatred is spread; 100 bombed, and 1,000 lose members 
of their
 families. 
 
 Although he appeared not to approve of the war in Iraq, he was 
admiring of
 Bush. He is very straightforward, said the monk. On our first 
visit, I
 was faced with a large plate of biscuits. President Bush 
immediately offered
 me his favorites, and after that, we got on fine. On my next 
visit, he
 didn't mind when I was blunt about the war. By my third visit, I 
was
 ushering him into the Oval Office. I was astonished by his grasp of
 Buddhism. 
 
 He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-absorbed, 
burdened
 with too much choice. It is fascinating. In the West, you have 
bigger
 homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences -- yet 
you never
 seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the world, yet 
you don't
 bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors, he said. I 
don't think
 people have become more selfish, but their lives have become 
easier and that
 has spoilt them. They have less resilience, they expect more, they
 constantly compare themselves to others and they have too much 
choice --
 which brings no real freedom.
 
 --From Hindu Press International, April 2, 2006
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
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 ...repeated his opposition to homosexuality...
 
 I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, 
 Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights.

Did the Dalai Lama say he opposed equal rights for gays?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ...repeated his opposition to homosexuality...
 
 I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, 
 Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights.

Having only been around Maharishi, I guess you 
might not have had much experience with working
with a spiritual teacher and not being expected 
to agree with everything he says.

:-)







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread Vaj

On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:23 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:

 ...repeated his opposition to homosexuality...

 I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower,
 Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights.

See http://quietmountain.org/links/teachings/gayrites.htm

He has many students who are gay or lesbian--probably not that much  
different than M. or any other teacher.



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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
   I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for gays 
   (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
   fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I don't 
   know).
  
  But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.
 
 If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for gays, etc.
 then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.

They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
marriage, actually.

 I've always interpreted that phrase to mean the same as it means 
 for African-Americans and other historically oppressed minorities: 
 equal, but not special or exceptional, rights.

Right.  And...?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 snip
I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for 
gays 
(Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I don't 
know).
   
   But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.
  
  If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for gays, etc.
  then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.
 
 They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
 marriage, actually.




And what about the Dalia Lama?

Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays than 
the Christian Fundies?




 
  I've always interpreted that phrase to mean the same as it means 
  for African-Americans and other historically oppressed 
minorities: 
  equal, but not special or exceptional, rights.
 
 Right.  And...?


And what?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  snip
 I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for 
 gays 
 (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
 fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I don't 
 know).

But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.
   
   If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for gays, etc.
   then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.
  
  They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
  marriage, actually.
 
 And what about the Dalia Lama?
 
 Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays 
 than the Christian Fundies?

My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike
the fundies.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   snip
  I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights 
for 
  gays 
  (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
  fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I 
don't 
  know).
 
 But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.

If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for gays, 
etc.
then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.
   
   They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
   marriage, actually.
  
  And what about the Dalia Lama?
  
  Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays 
  than the Christian Fundies?
 
 My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike
 the fundies.


So, you guess that he's for gay marriage?






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2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:
snip
   I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights 
 for 
   gays 
   (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
   fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I 
 don't 
   know).
  
  But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.
 
 If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for gays, 
 etc.
 then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.

They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
marriage, actually.
   
   And what about the Dalia Lama?
   
   Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays 
   than the Christian Fundies?
  
  My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike
  the fundies.
 
 
 So, you guess that he's for gay marriage?

Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays.








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2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Rick, this is one of the most thoughtful analyses I've read in a 
 while...Western life is full of ironies, not the least is that 
while 
 claiming to be a religious nation, the US kills others and 
neglects 
 its own in far greater numbers than any other industrialized 
nation.



...yet the Dalai Lama's own negligence contributed to 1.5 million of 
his own people being murdered by the Chinese communists and the 
millions that were left had their religion, culture and way of life 
decimated.


 
 Sal
 
 
 On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
   He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-
absorbed, 
  burdened with too much choice. It is fascinating. In the West, 
you 
  have bigger homes, yet smaller families; you have endless 
conveniences 
  -- yet you never seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere 
in the 
  world, yet you don't bother to cross the road to meet your 
neighbors, 
  he said.







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2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
   shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 snip
I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal 
rights 
  for 
gays 
(Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I 
  don't 
know).
   
   But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.
  
  If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for 
gays, 
  etc.
  then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.
 
 They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
 marriage, actually.

And what about the Dalia Lama?

Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for 
gays 
than the Christian Fundies?
   
   My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike
   the fundies.
  
  
  So, you guess that he's for gay marriage?
 
 Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays.



Well, actually, you said that you guess he's for it.

Okay, well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he is NOT 
for it.

Who do you think is right, me or you?



 
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
  shempmcgurk@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
  wrote:
  snip
 I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal 
 rights 
   for 
 gays 
 (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
 fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the sin, I 
   don't 
 know).

But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.
   
   If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for 
 gays, 
   etc.
   then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.
  
  They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
  marriage, actually.
 
 And what about the Dalia Lama?
 
 Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for 
 gays 
 than the Christian Fundies?

My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike
the fundies.
   
   
   So, you guess that he's for gay marriage?
  
  Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays.
 
 
 
 Well, actually, you said that you guess he's for it.
 
 Okay, well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he is NOT 
 for it.
 
 Who do you think is right, me or you?


The religious leader said at the press conference that he had
previously been asked his views on gay marriage, and said that such
social sanction of gay relationships has to be judged in the context
of the society itself and the laws and social norms.

During the 45-minute meeting, the Nobel peace laureate and Buddhist
religious leader voiced his support for the full recognition of human
rights for all people, regardless of sexual orientation.

Buddhist sexual proscriptions ban homosexual sexual activity and
heterosexual sex through orifices other than the vagina, including
masturbation or other sexual activity with the hand. Buddhist
proscriptions also forbid sex at certain times - such as during full
and half moon days, the daytime, and during a wife's menstrual period
or pregnancy - or near shrines or temples. Adultery is considered
sexual misconduct, but the hiring of a female prostitute for
penile-vaginal sex is not, unless one pays a third party to procure
the person.

From a Buddhist point of view, lesbian and gay sex is generally
considered sexual misconduct, the Dalai Lama told reporters at a
press conference a day earlier.

However, such proscriptions are for members of the Buddhist faith -
and from society's viewpoint, homosexual sexual relations can be of
mutual benefit, enjoyable, and harmless, according to the Dalai Lama.
http://quietmountain.org/links/teachings/gayrites.htm 





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2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
   shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend 
jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ 
   wrote:
   snip
  I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal 
  rights 
for 
  gays 
  (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian 
  fundamentalist love the sinner but hate the 
sin, I 
don't 
  know).
 
 But they're opposed to equal rights for gays.

If by equal rights for gays you mean marriage for 
  gays, 
etc.
then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays.
   
   They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just
   marriage, actually.
  
  And what about the Dalia Lama?
  
  Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights 
for 
  gays 
  than the Christian Fundies?
 
 My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike
 the fundies.


So, you guess that he's for gay marriage?
   
   Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays.
  
  
  
  Well, actually, you said that you guess he's for it.
  
  Okay, well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he is 
NOT 
  for it.
  
  Who do you think is right, me or you?
 
 
 The religious leader said at the press conference that he had
 previously been asked his views on gay marriage, and said that such
 social sanction of gay relationships has to be judged in the 
context
 of the society itself and the laws and social norms.





Then according to the above, he would be against it in America 
because the laws prohibit it.




 
 During the 45-minute meeting, the Nobel peace laureate and Buddhist
 religious leader voiced his support for the full recognition of 
human
 rights for all people, regardless of sexual orientation.
 
 Buddhist sexual proscriptions ban homosexual sexual activity and
 heterosexual sex through orifices other than the vagina, including
 masturbation or other sexual activity with the hand. Buddhist
 proscriptions also forbid sex at certain times - such as during 
full
 and half moon days, the daytime, and during a wife's menstrual 
period
 or pregnancy - or near shrines or temples. Adultery is considered
 sexual misconduct, but the hiring of a female prostitute for
 penile-vaginal sex is not, unless one pays a third party to procure
 the person.
 
 From a Buddhist point of view, lesbian and gay sex is generally
 considered sexual misconduct, the Dalai Lama told reporters at a
 press conference a day earlier.
 
 However, such proscriptions are for members of the Buddhist faith -
 and from society's viewpoint, homosexual sexual relations can 
be of
 mutual benefit, enjoyable, and harmless, according to the Dalai 
Lama.
 http://quietmountain.org/links/teachings/gayrites.htm







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 ...repeated his opposition to homosexuality...
 
 I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, 
 Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights.
 
 

So, is Tibetan Buddhism rife with homophobia because the Dali Lama 
makes public statements about it? The TM organization has never made 
a public statement about homosexuality that I am aware of, and 
Maharishi never has directed any video that includes such remarks to 
be distributed to TMers OR people on TTC or ATTC, or recertification, 
or whatever.



 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
 fairfieldlife@ wrote:
 
  LONDON, ENGLAND, March 31, 2006: The exiled Tibetan spiritual 
 leader told
  The Daily Telegraph that terrorists should be treated humanely. 
He 
 also
  revealed the workings of his relationship with US President 
George 
 W. Bush,
  said Westerners had become too self-absorbed and repeated his 
 opposition to
  homosexuality in a wide-ranging interview. The Dalai Lama said 
 modern
  terrorism was born out of jealousy of Western 
 lifestyles. Fundamentalism is
  terrifying because it is based purely on emotion, rather than 
 intelligence,
  the 70-year-old monk said at the seat of his government-in-exile 
 in the
  northern Indian hilltop town of Dharamsala. It prevents 
followers 
 from
  thinking as individuals and about the good of the world. This 
new 
 terrorism
  has been brewing for many years. Much of it is caused by jealousy 
 and
  frustration at the West because it looks so highly developed and 
 successful
  on television. Leaders in the East use religion to counter that, 
 to bind
  these cou ntries together.  Terrorists, he warned, must be 
treated
  humanely. Otherwise, the problem will escalate. If there is one 
 Bin Laden
  killed today, soon there will be 10 Bin Ladens. Awesome. Ten Bin 
 Ladens
  killed, the hatred is spread; 100 bombed, and 1,000 lose members 
 of their
  families. 
  
  Although he appeared not to approve of the war in Iraq, he was 
 admiring of
  Bush. He is very straightforward, said the monk. On our first 
 visit, I
  was faced with a large plate of biscuits. President Bush 
 immediately offered
  me his favorites, and after that, we got on fine. On my next 
 visit, he
  didn't mind when I was blunt about the war. By my third visit, I 
 was
  ushering him into the Oval Office. I was astonished by his grasp 
of
  Buddhism. 
  
  He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-absorbed, 
 burdened
  with too much choice. It is fascinating. In the West, you have 
 bigger
  homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences -- yet 
 you never
  seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the world, yet 
 you don't
  bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors, he said. I 
 don't think
  people have become more selfish, but their lives have become 
 easier and that
  has spoilt them. They have less resilience, they expect more, they
  constantly compare themselves to others and they have too much 
 choice --
  which brings no real freedom.
  
  --From Hindu Press International, April 2, 2006
  
  http://www.hinduismtoday/subscribe.html
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  ...repeated his opposition to homosexuality...
  
  I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, 
  Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights.
 
 Having only been around Maharishi, I guess you 
 might not have had much experience with working
 with a spiritual teacher and not being expected 
 to agree with everything he says.
 
 :-)


Yeah, and MMY has always made a point of saying he's against 
homosexuality when he gets a chance to speak in public.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Isn't Bush the first President to receive the Dalai Lama in  the 
White House? 
 All the others didn't want to *offend* the  Chinese.


Since the neocons identify the Chinese as the Next Big Enemy (this war 
on terror thing is merely a distraction), its not surprising.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 I know you'd love to pidgeon-hole me into the stereotype of what you 
 see as the cult-members of the TMO (which any regular reader of this 
 forum knows I am front and foremost in opposing) but, Barry, I know 
 you know better than that so I won't distinguish your remarks by any 
 further comment other than suggesting that you probably had a rough 
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You can always tell when Barry's been having a tough
time in his personal life.  The worse things are going
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
 
  Isn't Bush the first President to receive the Dalai Lama in  the 
 White House? 
  All the others didn't want to *offend* the  Chinese.
 
 
 Since the neocons identify the Chinese as the Next Big Enemy (this 
war 
 on terror thing is merely a distraction), its not surprising.



Could you please tell me which neocons have said that?  'Cause most 
neocons I read or hear pretty much say the exact opposite.  Red 
China is, in many respects, more capitalistic than Canada.  Red 
China is the USA's 3rd or 4th largest trading partner (I'm not sure 
which) which always bodes very well for peace (pretty hard to go to 
war with your best customer!).

Perhaps you are confusing the Chinese with the North Koreans






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.

2006-04-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote:
  
   Isn't Bush the first President to receive the Dalai Lama in  
the 
  White House? 
   All the others didn't want to *offend* the  Chinese.
  
  
  Since the neocons identify the Chinese as the Next Big Enemy 
(this 
 war 
  on terror thing is merely a distraction), its not surprising.
 
 
 
 Could you please tell me which neocons have said that?  'Cause most 
 neocons I read or hear pretty much say the exact opposite.  Red 
 China is, in many respects, more capitalistic than Canada.  Red 
 China is the USA's 3rd or 4th largest trading partner (I'm not sure 
 which) which always bodes very well for peace (pretty hard to go to 
 war with your best customer!).
 
 Perhaps you are confusing the Chinese with the North Koreans


the PNAC neocons have said it in their justification for how American 
military might needs to be projected in the Middle East (e.g. 
invasion of Iraq).





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