[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: You could be right that disaster may be inevitable, and I agree that Obama's not doing much to prevent it. However, I think this is the course we've been on since the 70's. I've stated over and over again that all presidents since Carter have increased the defecit, both liberal and conservative. This includes Dem and Rep congresses as they've alternated. I don't think this is an 'Obama' problem, I think it's an 'American' problem. After all, we voted for him (not you or I specifically). Moreover, we're the ones putting pressure on congress to continue funding projects and organizations that put us in the situation we're in. Just as much our fault as his, IMO. seekliberation And people thought Obama was for 'change'? What a joke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, Obama is clearly a leftist, you just wait, disaster is coming because of his negligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: You could be right that disaster may be inevitable, and I agree that Obama's not doing much to prevent it. However, I think this is the course we've been on since the 70's. I've stated over and over again that all presidents since Carter have increased the defecit, both liberal and conservative. This includes Dem and Rep congresses as they've alternated. I don't think this is an 'Obama' problem, I think it's an 'American' problem. After all, we voted for him (not you or I specifically). Moreover, we're the ones putting pressure on congress to continue funding projects and organizations that put us in the situation we're in. Just as much our fault as his, IMO. seekliberation Absolutely, May we look upon our treasures, the furniture of our houses, and our garments, and try whether the seeds of war have nourishment in these our possessions. Holding treasures in the self-pleasing spirit is a strong plant, the fruit whereof ripens fast. A day of outward distress is coming and Divine Love calls for us to prepare against it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, Obama is clearly a leftist, you just wait, disaster is coming because of his negligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
It's all about consciousness-based education. Ben the man made a good strong case for all our enlightenment with stronger real education in our schools. It is simply true that based on fact of scientific evidence and empirical experience that we should all be meditating and meditating in groups. A core to the solution of all that this guy Ben is decrying is more meditation for everyone. Quiet time meditation for everyone everyday twice a day and starting it in the public schools. Teaching meditation technique early to students is truly Head Start. As a public policy for balancing the budget and public health both. This would melt the need for the giant healthcare system we have now including all the more taxes to cover all the poor health created by the state of all the non-meditation and over consumption. This path is the sound and scientific policy for making a sound future. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: You could be right that disaster may be inevitable, and I agree that Obama's not doing much to prevent it. However, I think this is the course we've been on since the 70's. I've stated over and over again that all presidents since Carter have increased the defecit, both liberal and conservative. This includes Dem and Rep congresses as they've alternated. I don't think this is an 'Obama' problem, I think it's an 'American' problem. After all, we voted for him (not you or I specifically). Moreover, we're the ones putting pressure on congress to continue funding projects and organizations that put us in the situation we're in. Just as much our fault as his, IMO. seekliberation Absolutely, May we look upon our treasures, the furniture of our houses, and our garments, and try whether the seeds of war have nourishment in these our possessions. Holding treasures in the self-pleasing spirit is a strong plant, the fruit whereof ripens fast. A day of outward distress is coming and Divine Love calls for us to prepare against it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. I could tell I wasn't watching UK TV, what on Earth is a national prayer breakfast?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
I could be way off track here, but I think GWB followed by BHO, both are symbolic of the incompetence of both ends of the spectrum in US politics. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... (He was referring to tithing.) I kid you not. I could tell I wasn't watching UK TV, what on Earth is a national prayer breakfast? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Prayer_Breakfast The UK apparently has one too, BTW. More on Carson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson He's a Seventh-Day Adventist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church I hope he runs in 2016.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I could be way off track here, but I think GWB followed by BHO, both are symbolic of the incompetence of both ends of the spectrum in US politics. E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. Or, whoever has been writing whatever you've been reading either has no idea what they're talking about or is pulling the wool over your eyes. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
I simply find Obama more responsible and self aware. And he is a Democrat. There is a hardcore capitalist element running the country. Always has been. The Republicans support giving the beast free rein, while the Democrats take a more measured strategy, careful not to kill all the geese laying all the golden eggs. Neither party wants to change the system - So I favor the Democrats' sustainable harvest approach, vs. the short-sighted rape and pillage favored by the Republicans. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: I could be way off track here, but I think GWB followed by BHO, both are symbolic of the incompetence of both ends of the spectrum in US politics. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
Same owners of the car lot, different salesman. Do you get it yet? The people need to take the country back. Right now Wall Street is running it and we need to run Wall Street out of the universe. ;-) On 02/18/2013 08:03 AM, seekliberation wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
Wool over my eyes? what part of my post in that first paragraph is untrue? (or was it a subsequent paragraph?) Some of it is opinion and gut instinct, but the defecit numbers and his claim of reducing the deficit 5 trillion are fact. Moreover, I can't say I've heard him speak of any subject where I really felt he knew in depth what he was talking about. He is simply fluent in his speech and more balanced in how he presents things, which is what assists him in looking like an expert. Is there something about BHO that makes you feel (or know) that he is thoroughly informed and knowledgeable about in terms of its effect on the entire country? Not trying to propose a nasty 'Turq' like argument. I'm genuinely curious to find out what it is that BHO is an expert of in terms of national level decisions. You can exclude his military decisions since i've already expressed that he's been, for the most part, far in the positive side of that. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. Or, whoever has been writing whatever you've been reading either has no idea what they're talking about or is pulling the wool over your eyes. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
I agree, Obama is definitely MUCH more self-aware than GWB. I'm not really into the whole Reps Vs Dems, one being better than the other. I look at it as a 'pick your poison' situation, but that's just me. Regardless of which is better or worse, BHO/GWB, that's kind of transparent to my original post. My original post is simply stating that I look at them both as having no depth of character. Neither seems to me like they have any depth of experience or character. I definitely don't believe that either would have gone nearly as far as they did on their own. Looking at a lot of history of both of them, they were both propped up by others for their political careers, rather than having some talent, skill, or reputation for success in some other field that helped them gain the popularity they needed to be in the spotlight. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I simply find Obama more responsible and self aware. And he is a Democrat. There is a hardcore capitalist element running the country. Always has been. The Republicans support giving the beast free rein, while the Democrats take a more measured strategy, careful not to kill all the geese laying all the golden eggs. Neither party wants to change the system - So I favor the Democrats' sustainable harvest approach, vs. the short-sighted rape and pillage favored by the Republicans. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I could be way off track here, but I think GWB followed by BHO, both are symbolic of the incompetence of both ends of the spectrum in US politics. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
yes, I definitely get it. Although I think Jesse Ventura is a bit of a nutcase, I do agree with him when he publicly stated that US politics has become nothing more than Pro Wrestling. He explained in a show on TV that we have the Heros (Democrats) and Villians (Republicans, or vice versa if you're a right winger), and we create a drama in front of America of good guys vs. bad guys. But after the match is over, behind closed doors they aren't really enemies and are working for the same masterthey're only puppets of a greater master. Some say that master is the Rothschild family, some say the Rockefellers or the world bank...i'm not really sure. seekliberaiton --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Same owners of the car lot, different salesman. Do you get it yet? The people need to take the country back. Right now Wall Street is running it and we need to run Wall Street out of the universe. ;-) On 02/18/2013 08:03 AM, seekliberation wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: Wool over my eyes? what part of my post in that first paragraph is untrue? (or was it a subsequent paragraph?) Some of it is opinion and gut instinct, but the defecit numbers and his claim of reducing the deficit 5 trillion are fact. Moreover, I can't say I've heard him speak of any subject where I really felt he knew in depth what he was talking about. He is simply fluent in his speech and more balanced in how he presents things, which is what assists him in looking like an expert. Is there something about BHO that makes you feel (or know) that he is thoroughly informed and knowledgeable about in terms of its effect on the entire country? Um, no, but I don't believe I've suggested that he is. I'm not a big fan of his by any means. My problem is with the dangerously simplistic, demonstrably inaccurate, and frequently deceptively promoted (not by you) notion that our biggest problem is the deficit rather than the lack of demand generated by the financial crisis that happened under Bush. Even Obama appears at times to buy into this notion, at least for public consumption. But the U.S. is not in any way like a household that needs to tighten its belt. That's a thoroughly bogus and destructive analogy, whoever is making it. Cutting back on spending is not the answer, both because it will do yet more damage to the economy (look at the results of the austerity programs abroad) and because in the present situation, more deficit spending to increase demand, which is just about the only thing that will really *help* the economy, is not even remotely the disaster it's portrayed as, not with interest rates and inflation as low as they are, with no indications they're going to rise significantly anytime soon. Fixing the economy has to come *first*, before we'll be in a position to tackle the deficit without doing irreparable harm. Reversing that order would be the real disaster. Not trying to propose a nasty 'Turq' like argument. I'm genuinely curious to find out what it is that BHO is an expert of in terms of national level decisions. You can exclude his military decisions since i've already expressed that he's been, for the most part, far in the positive side of that. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. Or, whoever has been writing whatever you've been reading either has no idea what they're talking about or is pulling the wool over your eyes. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
There is supposedly 1.2 quadrillion dollars in bad loans out there. There is probably no way to recover from that other than erasing the blackboard and starting all over again. The poor and middle class should resist any effort made to make them pay for the banksters gambling debts. On 02/18/2013 10:02 AM, seekliberation wrote: yes, I definitely get it. Although I think Jesse Ventura is a bit of a nutcase, I do agree with him when he publicly stated that US politics has become nothing more than Pro Wrestling. He explained in a show on TV that we have the Heros (Democrats) and Villians (Republicans, or vice versa if you're a right winger), and we create a drama in front of America of good guys vs. bad guys. But after the match is over, behind closed doors they aren't really enemies and are working for the same masterthey're only puppets of a greater master. Some say that master is the Rothschild family, some say the Rockefellers or the world bank...i'm not really sure. seekliberaiton --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Same owners of the car lot, different salesman. Do you get it yet? The people need to take the country back. Right now Wall Street is running it and we need to run Wall Street out of the universe. ;-) On 02/18/2013 08:03 AM, seekliberation wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
Perhaps I misinterpreted what you posted then. Regarding defecit vs demand and which is more important, I'm not enough of an economic expert (to put it lightly) to stake any claim on that. I will say that from what i've read thus far is that I don't know if anyone really knows if we're in trouble or not. A lot of this is tied to the Federal Reserve and all theories about it conlict with each other. Some say the FR's lack of transparency is a ploy to extract more money for 'power brokers' throughout the world. Some say it's an experimental economic disaster. Others say the whole 16 Trillion dollar defecit is just a mirage and nothing to worry about. We'll find out in years to come. My gut instinct is that eventually a bubble will burst just like the housing marketbut what do I know? seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Um, no, but I don't believe I've suggested that he is. I'm not a big fan of his by any means. My problem is with the dangerously simplistic, demonstrably inaccurate, and frequently deceptively promoted (not by you) notion that our biggest problem is the deficit rather than the lack of demand generated by the financial crisis that happened under Bush. Even Obama appears at times to buy into this notion, at least for public consumption. But the U.S. is not in any way like a household that needs to tighten its belt. That's a thoroughly bogus and destructive analogy, whoever is making it. Cutting back on spending is not the answer, both because it will do yet more damage to the economy (look at the results of the austerity programs abroad) and because in the present situation, more deficit spending to increase demand, which is just about the only thing that will really *help* the economy, is not even remotely the disaster it's portrayed as, not with interest rates and inflation as low as they are, with no indications they're going to rise significantly anytime soon. Fixing the economy has to come *first*, before we'll be in a position to tackle the deficit without doing irreparable harm. Reversing that order would be the real disaster. Not trying to propose a nasty 'Turq' like argument. I'm genuinely curious to find out what it is that BHO is an expert of in terms of national level decisions. You can exclude his military decisions since i've already expressed that he's been, for the most part, far in the positive side of that. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. Or, whoever has been writing whatever you've been reading either has no idea what they're talking about or is pulling the wool over your eyes. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
It wouldn't surprise me if there was some ungodly amount of money in bad loans out there. I recently watched a brief episode on youtube about the economy where one of the speakers claimed that humankind is simply not evolved enough for the amount of people in this world to co-exist economically. 1.2 Quadrillion? I can't even imagine that number, let alone a few trillion. In a kind of cynical way, I enjoy watching all these economic problems unfold. Just sitting back and watching people pay the price for their ignorance, I guess it's kind of like entertainment. seekliberatioin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: There is supposedly 1.2 quadrillion dollars in bad loans out there. There is probably no way to recover from that other than erasing the blackboard and starting all over again. The poor and middle class should resist any effort made to make them pay for the banksters gambling debts. On 02/18/2013 10:02 AM, seekliberation wrote: yes, I definitely get it. Although I think Jesse Ventura is a bit of a nutcase, I do agree with him when he publicly stated that US politics has become nothing more than Pro Wrestling. He explained in a show on TV that we have the Heros (Democrats) and Villians (Republicans, or vice versa if you're a right winger), and we create a drama in front of America of good guys vs. bad guys. But after the match is over, behind closed doors they aren't really enemies and are working for the same masterthey're only puppets of a greater master. Some say that master is the Rothschild family, some say the Rockefellers or the world bank...i'm not really sure. seekliberaiton --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Same owners of the car lot, different salesman. Do you get it yet? The people need to take the country back. Right now Wall Street is running it and we need to run Wall Street out of the universe. ;-) On 02/18/2013 08:03 AM, seekliberation wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of substance. GWB, allegedly, was notorius for a poor work ethic and failure to apply himself prior to his political career. He had to live off his father's money and reputation. BHO never really held a major responsibility other than graduating college prior to his political career. Both represent a high level of confidence that is not backed by any depth of experience. BHO is at least a good speaker, but that's about it. This is Modern America at its finest. All outward appearance, no substance. And this is all we look for in politicians these days, this is what we find attractive. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
Since we're all yogis a collapse shouldn't matter much to us. We can live with only a bedroll and toothbrush, right? :-D I was reading an article yesterday about how seniors are having a hard time. For one thing this mess with real estate means that those who planned on selling their homes for the equity and getting a smaller place to retire too cash couldn't do it. Also not everyone has a field where they can work until they drop dead. Creative people tend to love their work and often like to keep creating until they can no longer. Even that it difficult in this upside down screwed up economy. What boomers who are retirement age or approaching it should do is get back to those hippie days when they learned to live on almost nothing. IOW, Small is Beautiful again which would be collectively saluting the establishment with our middle finger. On 02/18/2013 11:13 AM, seekliberation wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if there was some ungodly amount of money in bad loans out there. I recently watched a brief episode on youtube about the economy where one of the speakers claimed that humankind is simply not evolved enough for the amount of people in this world to co-exist economically. 1.2 Quadrillion? I can't even imagine that number, let alone a few trillion. In a kind of cynical way, I enjoy watching all these economic problems unfold. Just sitting back and watching people pay the price for their ignorance, I guess it's kind of like entertainment. seekliberatioin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: There is supposedly 1.2 quadrillion dollars in bad loans out there. There is probably no way to recover from that other than erasing the blackboard and starting all over again. The poor and middle class should resist any effort made to make them pay for the banksters gambling debts. On 02/18/2013 10:02 AM, seekliberation wrote: yes, I definitely get it. Although I think Jesse Ventura is a bit of a nutcase, I do agree with him when he publicly stated that US politics has become nothing more than Pro Wrestling. He explained in a show on TV that we have the Heros (Democrats) and Villians (Republicans, or vice versa if you're a right winger), and we create a drama in front of America of good guys vs. bad guys. But after the match is over, behind closed doors they aren't really enemies and are working for the same masterthey're only puppets of a greater master. Some say that master is the Rothschild family, some say the Rockefellers or the world bank...i'm not really sure. seekliberaiton --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Same owners of the car lot, different salesman. Do you get it yet? The people need to take the country back. Right now Wall Street is running it and we need to run Wall Street out of the universe. ;-) On 02/18/2013 08:03 AM, seekliberation wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big Obama fan, and he has definitely made mistakes, but he's nowhere near the Bush level of incompetence and lack of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: Wool over my eyes? what part of my post in that first paragraph is untrue? (or was it a subsequent paragraph?) Some of it is opinion and gut instinct, but the defecit numbers and his claim of reducing the deficit 5 trillion are fact. Moreover, I can't say I've heard him speak of any subject where I really felt he knew in depth what he was talking about. He is simply fluent in his speech and more balanced in how he presents things, which is what assists him in looking like an expert. Is there something about BHO that makes you feel (or know) that he is thoroughly informed and knowledgeable about in terms of its effect on the entire country? Um, no, but I don't believe I've suggested that he is. I'm not a big fan of his by any means. My problem is with the dangerously simplistic, demonstrably inaccurate, and frequently deceptively promoted (not by you) notion that our biggest problem is the deficit rather than the lack of demand generated by the financial crisis that happened under Bush. Even Obama appears at times to buy into this notion, at least for public consumption. Judy admits!!! Obama is a phony! For public consumption? Right on Judy, I always knew you weren't a total idiot. ut the U.S. is not in any way like a household that needs to tighten its belt. That's a thoroughly bogus and destructive analogy, whoever is making it. Cutting back on spending is not the answer, both because it will do yet more damage to the economy (look at the results of the austerity programs abroad) and because in the present situation, more deficit spending to increase demand, which is just about the only thing that will really *help* the economy, is not even remotely the disaster it's portrayed as, not with interest rates and inflation as low as they are, with no indications they're going to rise significantly anytime soon. Fixing the economy has to come *first*, before we'll be in a position to tackle the deficit without doing irreparable harm. Reversing that order would be the real disaster. Not trying to propose a nasty 'Turq' like argument. I'm genuinely curious to find out what it is that BHO is an expert of in terms of national level decisions. You can exclude his military decisions since i've already expressed that he's been, for the most part, far in the positive side of that. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@ wrote: I wouldn't go as far as saying Obama is 'nowhere' near the Bush level of incompetence. I will say, however, he is a 100 times better at looking like he knows what he is doing than Bush. Bush just couldn't hide how uneducated he really was or how much of a narcissist he was. Obama plays it much cooler. But when someone adds an additional 6 trillion to the deficit after a claim that he will reduce the deficit by 5 Trillion (a claim that requires either a liar or someone in fantasy land), it is clear to me that Obama simply has no idea what he's doing. Or, whoever has been writing whatever you've been reading either has no idea what they're talking about or is pulling the wool over your eyes. In fact, the only thing i'd give Obama a passing grade on, perhaps a B or B- is his handling of the military. Unfortunately for many Soldiers and Marines who side with Republicans, they don't realize that Reps over the last 30 years have been more likely to send in the larger forces that result in more money spent and more casualties. Dems, OTOH, prefer to focus on special operations units for more small-scale operations. They only use the more professional units to accomplish the bare minimum it takes. That is how Obama has been dealing with terrorism. Bush sent in a herd of elephants, while BHO sends the snakes in the grass. Smarter, more cost-effective, and less people die. It would've been an A if he wouldn't have gone and added women to infantry units. But aside from a smarter and more intelligent use of the military, I don't see much improvement from BHO over GWB, only a little. The reason I see the comparison is that both represent what has become the icon of a typical 'modern-day American Male'. All talk, all reliance on connections and friends, all speech, all image, all reputation, but no real depth of character that I can see in either one. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: E...you're way off track here, IMHO. I'm not a big
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? No, Obama is clearly a leftist, you just wait, disaster is coming because of his negligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
Heat this up a bit more... lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv6vdOcehgc --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: OK, wgm4u, If you could make George W. Bush President again, today, would you? Obama immediately steps down - Bush steps in, with his staff. Right now. Bet a shiver ran down your back when I said that, huh? No, Obama is clearly a leftist, you just wait, disaster is coming because of his negligence. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. Unlike Obama who just gives religion and the bible lip service, Dr. Carson is the real deal, refreshing! Obama is pretty much just a phony, watch him squirm.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
You could be right that disaster may be inevitable, and I agree that Obama's not doing much to prevent it. However, I think this is the course we've been on since the 70's. I've stated over and over again that all presidents since Carter have increased the defecit, both liberal and conservative. This includes Dem and Rep congresses as they've alternated. I don't think this is an 'Obama' problem, I think it's an 'American' problem. After all, we voted for him (not you or I specifically). Moreover, we're the ones putting pressure on congress to continue funding projects and organizations that put us in the situation we're in. Just as much our fault as his, IMO. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: No, Obama is clearly a leftist, you just wait, disaster is coming because of his negligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dr. Ben Carson puts Obama in his place (finally).
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/video/doctor-slams-debt-health-care-221909235.html Says our tax policy should be based on the Bible--If it was good enough for God... I kid you not. And this is immediately after he makes the case for doctors involving themselves in politics and policy because doctors deal with facts.
