Failure for who ? For those that didn't get the hang of it
obviously. For those that never took it seriously, ofcourse. For
those that for some personal reasons never made it work, or
those
that where just kidding around even having conversations during
flying ? Yes.
But not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying? Because if that's
the
case, Dave should complain about Patanjali, not the TMO.
Well that's only
200 years in the future, if a histrorian conducts a post-
mortem on the TM-movement,
his conclusion will be, Yogic-flying destroyed
TM - movement.
200 years from now no one will know anything about MMY
or the TMO. Gone, poof!
20 years from now, this will be true for 99.99%
of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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The flying program was not wonderful. A total failure.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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jedi_spock@
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What is YMMV.??sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:38:39 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Flying vs. Hopping -Huh. I rather like it. YMMV.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is YMMV.??
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sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:38:39 -
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Flying vs. Hopping -
Huh. I rather like it. YMMV
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, the marketing changed after 1977 when the first citizen sidha
course lawsuits after the first flying block. It was a technical
change written by movement lawyers. MMY continued to promise flying
in the air
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Yes, the marketing changed after 1977 when the first citizen sidha
course lawsuits after the first flying block. It was a technical
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Yes, the marketing changed after 1977 when the first citizen sidha
course lawsuits after the first flying block. It was a technical
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Yes, the marketing changed after 1977 when the first citizen
sidha
On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" jflanegi@ wrote: It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra. Do
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
On Jul 20, 2006, at 10:42 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
[snip]
It's been 22 years since I took the Sidhis course, but I have zero
recollection of being promised that I'd fly. It was thoroughly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
[snip]
It's been 22 years since I took the Sidhis course, but I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
[snip]
It's been 22 years since I took the Sidhis course, but I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:51 AM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
hempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:00:02 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Flying vs. HoppingNext to TM, my experience is that
the "flying" technique was the best thing since apple pie.Having said that, I wonder what they trade off has been? I am convinced t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The flying program was not wonderful. A total failure. Yogic-flying
is the biggest
mistake Maharishi ever made in his life.
200 years in the future, if a histrorian conducts a post-mortem on the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@
wrote:
The flying program was not wonderful. A total failure.
Yogic-flying is the biggest
mistake Maharishi ever made in his life.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@
wrote:
The flying program was not wonderful. A total failure.
--- hyperbolicgeometry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig
sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason
Spock jedi_spock@
wrote:
The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@
wrote:
--- (below - 200 years from now TMO and MMY gone, poof). I agree, but
what's your opinion on TM. Will people be practicing it 200 years
from now, in the same form? Thanks.
--- hyperbolicgeometry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
TM is a technique, a good technique. Whether people
will be practicing TM 200 years from now, who knows. I
doubt it though.
--- coshlnx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- (below - 200 years from now TMO and MMY gone,
poof). I agree, but
what's your opinion on TM. Will people be
practicing it 200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hyperbolicgeometry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock
jedi_spock@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, let me get this straight:
The TMO continues to liberally use terms like yogic
flying, group
flying, flying together, etc. MMY, Bevan, Hagelin, and the rich
guys in the funny gold crowns utter those terms all the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a deceptive marketing term as no one has flown or is flying.
Your personal experience is valid for you, but I, for one, am not
buying it.
All marketing terms are to some degree deceptive.
Regarding your choice to not
It's a deceptive marketing term as no one has flown or is flying.
Your personal experience is valid for you, but I, for one, am not
buying it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
So, let
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
So, let me get this straight:
The TMO continues to liberally use terms like yogic
flying, group
flying, flying together, etc. MMY, Bevan,
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying.
I have the original print ads used by the TMO when they rolled this
program out. They were fraught with untruth, as the succeeding
decades have born
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying.
I have the original print ads used by the TMO when they rolled this
program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying.
I have the original print ads used by the TMO when they rolled this
program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying? Because if that's the
case, Dave should complain about Patanjali, not the TMO.
Yahoo!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying.
I have the original print ads used by the TMO when they rolled this
program
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I'm in a weird category here on this forum.
I've seen what appeared to be real levitation,
possibly a hundred times over fourteen years.
So I'm convinced it can be done, well enough
that hundreds of people at a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can point no fingers here because my group was directly told by
MMY
that three years of sidhaland would perfect our sidhis. It was part
of his hook to get our slave labor. We rounded our asses off,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I can certainly identify with what you say here.
But I have no regrets, no more than I have about
staying in a love affair past its expiration date.
I use that analogy purposefully. We were in a
love affair
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
I'm in a weird category here on this forum.
I've seen what appeared to be real levitation,
possibly a hundred times over fourteen years.
So
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
snip
I can certainly identify with what you say here.
But I have no regrets, no more than I have about
staying in a love affair past its expiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, let me get this straight:
The TMO continues to liberally use terms like yogic flying, group
flying, flying together, etc. MMY, Bevan, Hagelin, and the rich
guys in the funny gold crowns utter those terms all the time.
The TM movement was a good ride for me for many
years. I regret none of those years. And then it
was a rough ride for me for many years, as I tried
to deal with the cognitive dissonance of realizing
that not only didn't deliver on its promises, it
had some pretty scary ways of not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
So, let me get this straight:
The TMO continues to liberally use terms
I kinda don't think Patanjali used the term flying. But the TMO
minions use it all the time. Just dial up the Maharishi Channel
listen to Bevan and The Boys talk about yogic flying.
I know, I know, to the TB's, flying means hopping or bouncing or
whatever goes on, but to the rest of us, flying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying? Because if that's the
case, Dave should
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
snip
I can certainly identify with what you say here.
But I have no regrets, no
Not my last name.
It all comes down to honesty. They promised:
- Levitation
- Flying
- Invisibility
- Strength of an Elephant
- Master of Nature
... among other things. I'm quoting from the advertising purchased
by the movement. None of it was true, then or now. Yet thousands of
dollars in
It's a deceptive marketing term as no one has flown or is flying.
Your personal experience is valid for you, but I, for one, am not
buying it.
You didn't experience it during the TM-siddhis?
OffWorld
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet, no one has flown. No one is flying.
This problem could have been avoided by simply not calling
it flying or making the claims for flying..
I agree that flying is a poor term for what it looks like.
But insideit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Plus, *we* all believed that we were going to
fly. C'mon now, guys...'fess up. :-)
I didn't. I thought it would be a powerful spiritual technique. And it
was. However, later, during flying I often felt that it is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not my last name.
It all comes down to honesty. They promised:
- Levitation
- Flying
- Invisibility
- Strength of an Elephant
- Master of Nature
.
No worries, maybe it is 3 lifetimes. You'll get there. Stop worrying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I kinda don't think Patanjali used the term flying.
You 'kinda' would be wrong. Start your complaint with Patanjali.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do
Whether or not Patanjali used the term flying is not the point. The
TMO did and does.
Nobody's flying.
My complaint is not with Patanjail's writings. It's with the TMO's
claims.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or his
writings.
My complaint is with the TMO. They used, and continue to use, the
term flying. Nobody's flying. They made a claim, continue to make
it, took people's money, continue to take it, on deception. That's
my only point.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whether or not Patanjali used the term flying is not the point.
The TMO did and does.
Nobody's flying.
My complaint is not with Patanjail's writings. It's with the TMO's
claims.
The TMO doesn't claim anybody's flying.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or his
writings.
My complaint is with the TMO. They used, and continue to use, the
term flying. Nobody's flying. They made a claim, continue to make
it,
No,
Everybody doesn't know that.
Yogic Flying That's the term the TMO uses. Sounds like flying to me.
Sounds like a claim of flying as well.
What difference does it make? The truth. That's the difference.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In
Yogic Flying, used everyday by the TMO. Could that mean, oh, I
don't know flying?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or
Reason reveals in your words here that what you are ACTUALLY saying
here is that you are not complaining about people who use the
term flying in regard to the sutra (eg. Patanjali), but you are
telling us that you want to complain about the TMO.any excuse
will do eh?
OffWorld
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or his
writings.
My complaint is with the TMO. They used, and continue to use, the
It is called yogic flying, ( not flying ) meaning hopping as the
first stage, and then theoretically more, which is how it is defined
in the Vedic texts.
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yogic Flying, used everyday by the TMO. Could that mean, oh,
You're almost right.
I'm not, as you point out, complaining about people who characterize
their activities as flying, even if they're not.
I'm merely attempting to hold the TMO accountable for their dubious
claims about their ability to teach people to fly.
We hold companies accountable in
No doubt, this very second, the TMO is reading your posts to FFL and
responding with an entirely new set of guidelines for how the TM-
Sidhis program is promoted.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're almost right.
I'm not, as you point out, complaining
Want to see the ads they used?
http://www.lwmgserver.com/tm-ads/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in
On Jul 19, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" bikemaster@ wrote: As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or his writings. My complaint is with the
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra. Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it flying? Because if that's the case, Dave should complain about Patanjali,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're almost right.
I'm not, as you point out, complaining about people who
characterize
their activities as flying, even if they're not.
I'm merely attempting to hold the TMO accountable for their dubious
claims
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yogic Flying, used everyday by the TMO. Could that mean, oh, I
don't know flying?
It could, but as you and everybody else knows,
because the TMO makes it very clear, it doesn't.
You really haven't got a beef here.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everybody doesn't know that.
Yeah, I think pretty much everybody who knows there is
such a thing as Yogic Flying knows it's just hopping.
And even if they don't, they surely will well before
they get to the point of plunking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali
or his
writings.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Want to see the ads they used?
http://www.lwmgserver.com/tm-ads/
Those must be very early ads because by the time I took the Sidhis
program, the invisibility sutra was no longer given, and there was no
promotion of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Want to see the ads they used?
Right. And the dates on the ads are...?
They certainly were no longer being used by the time
I took the TM-Sidhis course, around the same time Alex
did (we may have been on the same course).
Yea, those posters are far out.
I was not expecting any of that when I took the Sidhis, it was
always that the hopping is to develop consciousness.
What is that http://www.lwmgserver.com/ thingy?
What do they do? Does it cost money?
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What is that http://www.lwmgserver.com/ thingy?
What do they do? Does it cost money?
That appears to be Bikemaster Dave's business:
http://www.overlandtouring.com/aboutdave.php
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@
wrote:
So, let me get this straight:
The TMO continues to liberally use terms like yogic
flying, group
flying, flying together, etc. MMY, Bevan, Hagelin, and the
rich
guys in the funny gold crowns utter
Yes, the marketing changed after 1977 when the first citizen sidha
course lawsuits after the first flying block. It was a technical
change written by movement lawyers. MMY continued to promise flying
in the air with the flying sutra with specific timetables for all the
years I was involved. But
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whether or not Patanjali used the term flying is not the point. The
TMO did and does.
Nobody's flying.
My complaint is not with Patanjail's writings. It's with the TMO's
claims.
LOL, so the TMO should teach the flying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or his
writings.
My complaint is with the TMO. They used, and continue to use, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yogic Flying, used everyday by the TMO. Could that mean, oh, I
don't know flying?
Or the technique found in the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali called flying?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You're almost right.
I'm not, as you point out, complaining about people who characterize
their activities as flying, even if they're not.
I'm merely attempting to hold the TMO accountable for their dubious
claims
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 19, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave bikemaster@ wrote:
As I said in another post, my complaint is not with Patanjali or his
writings.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
It is a marketing term based on the name of the sutra.
Do the Yoga Sutras actually call it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Want to see the ads they used?
http://www.lwmgserver.com/tm-ads/
Those are great. Bet you could sell them on ebay. BTW, they're from when, 1976
or
thereabouts?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes, the marketing changed after 1977 when the first citizen sidha
course lawsuits after the first flying block. It was a technical
change written by movement lawyers. MMY continued to promise flying
in the air
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Want to see the ads they used?
http://www.lwmgserver.com/tm-ads/
Well done.
I just can't wait to hear how the apologists deal
with this.
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