[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
> Simmons" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
> >  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
> > > > > > > > Simmons"  wrote:


>> I don't *think* you're quite as clueless as you
> seem, but I could be wrong.



Time may tell.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
Simmons" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
>  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
> > > > > > > Simmons"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
> > > > capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
> > > > away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
> > > > cannot think logically or question their beliefs.
> > > > 
> > > > However, when TMers ask TM critics to question their
> > > > own beliefs and logic, they are being TM Nazis.  TM
> > > > critics do not have to engage in such questioning.
> > > > 
> > > > IOKYATC (It's OK If You're a TM Critic).
> > > 
> > > Your words all of them,,,each and everyone. Perhaps you should 
re 
> > > read them now. In particular that first paragraph. I real love 
> > > it,,, though I would disagree with labelling all TM'rs this way.
> > 
> > You might want to take your disagreement up with
> > gerbal, since I was using his words from a very
> > recent post addressed to you.
> > 
> > > I'll bet 
> > > the over whelming majority are beautiful intelligent people. 
> > > 
> > > I know its OK to be a TM critic,,,thank you for the validation.
> > 
> > Well, of course it is, but that isn't exactly
> > what I said, is it?
> > 
> > Are you familiar with the term "hypocrisy"?
> 
> I'm impressed "Authfriend" First you admit Tm'rs with a
> dissociation capacity of TM and other programs that eat away at 
> their ability to think for themselves, (see your quote below.)
> 
> You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
> > > > capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
> > > > away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
> > > > cannot think logically or question their beliefs.
> 
> Then within post or two you actually prove your point by using 
> another posters words and admitting it,,,again see your quote below.
> 
> You might want to take your disagreement up with
> > gerbal, since I was using his words from a very
> > recent post addressed to you.
> 
> Think for your self authfriend,,,use your own words,,,your own mind 
> and your own thoughts, not those of the TMO MMY or other posters



I don't *think* you're quite as clueless as you
seem, but I could be wrong.





 
> and perhaps, if something you say interests me I'll engage you in 
deeper 
> conversation.
> 
> Cheers
> Bill
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" 
 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
> > > > > > Simmons"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
> > > capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
> > > away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
> > > cannot think logically or question their beliefs.
> > > 
> > > However, when TMers ask TM critics to question their
> > > own beliefs and logic, they are being TM Nazis.  TM
> > > critics do not have to engage in such questioning.
> > > 
> > > IOKYATC (It's OK If You're a TM Critic).
> > 
> > Your words all of them,,,each and everyone. Perhaps you should re 
> > read them now. In particular that first paragraph. I real love 
> > it,,, though I would disagree with labelling all TM'rs this way.
> 
> You might want to take your disagreement up with
> gerbal, since I was using his words from a very
> recent post addressed to you.
> 
> > I'll bet 
> > the over whelming majority are beautiful intelligent people. 
> > 
> > I know its OK to be a TM critic,,,thank you for the validation.
> 
> Well, of course it is, but that isn't exactly
> what I said, is it?
> 
> Are you familiar with the term "hypocrisy"?
>



I'm impressed "Authfriend" First you admit Tm'rs with a dissociation 
capacity of TM and other programs that eat away at their ability to 
think for themselves, (see your quote below.)

You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
> > > capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
> > > away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
> > > cannot think logically or question their beliefs.
> > >


Then within post or two you actually prove your point by using 
another posters words and admitting it,,,again see your quote below.


You might want to take your disagreement up with
> gerbal, since I was using his words from a very
> recent post addressed to you.
> 

Think for your self authfriend,,,use your own words,,,your own mind 
and your own thoughts, not those of the TMO MMY or other posters and 
perhaps, if something you say interests me I'll engage you in deeper 
conversation.

Cheers
Bill






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
> > > > > Simmons"  wrote:
> > 
> > You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
> > capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
> > away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
> > cannot think logically or question their beliefs.
> > 
> > However, when TMers ask TM critics to question their
> > own beliefs and logic, they are being TM Nazis.  TM
> > critics do not have to engage in such questioning.
> > 
> > IOKYATC (It's OK If You're a TM Critic).
> 
> Your words all of them,,,each and everyone. Perhaps you should re 
> read them now. In particular that first paragraph. I real love 
> it,,, though I would disagree with labelling all TM'rs this way.

You might want to take your disagreement up with
gerbal, since I was using his words from a very
recent post addressed to you.

> I'll bet 
> the over whelming majority are beautiful intelligent people. 
> 
> I know its OK to be a TM critic,,,thank you for the validation.

Well, of course it is, but that isn't exactly
what I said, is it?

Are you familiar with the term "hypocrisy"?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)
Simmons" 
> > > >  wrote:
> 
> You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
> capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
> away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
> cannot think logically or question their beliefs.
> 
> However, when TMers ask TM critics to question their
> own beliefs and logic, they are being TM Nazis.  TM
> critics do not have to engage in such questioning.
> 
> IOKYATC (It's OK If You're a TM Critic).

Your words all of them,,,each and everyone. Perhaps you should re 
read them now. In particular that first paragraph. I real love it,,, 
though I would disagree with labelling all TM'rs this way. I'll bet 
the over whelming majority are beautiful intelligent people. 

I know its OK to be a TM critic,,,thank you for the validation.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > >  wrote:

> > > > As for the linear time issue of when these rules were 
> > > > written. Who knows,,,who should care, the issue is truth and 
> > > > truth is timeless. 
> > > 
> > > Sidestep.  How do you know these rules represent
> > > Timeless Truth in an infinite universe, as opposed
> > > to time-bound rules for a limited physical plane?
> > > 
> > > How come an unassailable financial foundation doesn't
> > > matter, but written-down rules are crucially important?
> > > 
> > > With all this sidestepping, I have to assume you
> > > took my points but are reluctant to say so.
> > 
> > Assume what you will,,,you will anyway,,, I'll assume.
> 
> Hey, you nailed the TM Nazi. Good on'y. Nothing like seeing old
> Vlad for what she is, eh?

You see, TMers are infected with the dissociation
capacities of TM and the other programs that eat
away at their ability to think for themselves.  They
cannot think logically or question their beliefs.

However, when TMers ask TM critics to question their
own beliefs and logic, they are being TM Nazis.  TM
critics do not have to engage in such questioning.

IOKYATC (It's OK If You're a TM Critic).







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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another wonderful 
> Maheshism. 
> > Someone asked him about prayer. He quipped "you don't apply to 
the 
> > World Bank for $2.00"
> > 
> > Well, here's the little guy, giggling at his own jokes, 
convincing 
> > others that they are going to reach cosmic consciousness and he 
> makes 
> > a crack like that. 
> > 
> > Tells me there's something stinky in Vlodrop.
> 
> He does strike me as a bit of a "stinker".  Ah more power to him i 
> suppose,,,I should have his money.

By all accounts, his relatives have his money, not the TMO! What a 
shock for poor (literally) king Tony when Mahesh kicks the bucket.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from 
> what 
> > > > > I can see. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But then I can't for the life of me figure out what the 
> > > > > Universal consciousness needs with earthly real estate.
> > > > 
> > > > Neither can I.  Do you think that's a relevant
> > > > issue?
> > > 
> > > What "I" think really doesn't matter on the universal scale of 
> > > things. Afterall who am I? 
> > 
> > Sidestep.  You raised the question.
> > 
> > > Nor do the "unassailable fininacial foundations" found on  a 
> > > limited physical plane in an infinite universe.
> > 
> > Do they matter on the limited physical plane, you
> > know, the one we happen to be living in?
> > 
> > > > Or might it have more to do with wanting the TMO
> > > > to have an unassailable financial foundation so
> > > > it's not dependent on economic conditions?
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, you didn't answer my question:
> > > 
> > > As for the linear time issue of when these rules were written. 
> Who 
> > > knows,,,who should care, the issue is truth and truth is 
> timeless. 
> > 
> > Sidestep.  How do you know these rules represent
> > Timeless Truth in an infinite universe, as opposed
> > to time-bound rules for a limited physical plane?
> > 
> > How come an unassailable financial foundation doesn't
> > matter, but written-down rules are crucially important?
> > 
> > With all this sidestepping, I have to assume you
> > took my points but are reluctant to say so.
> >
> 
> Assume what you will,,,you will anyway,,, I'll assume.

Hey, you nailed the TM Nazi. Good on'y. Nothing like seeing old Vlad 
for what she is, eh?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from 
what 
> > > > I can see. 
> > > > 
> > > > But then I can't for the life of me figure out what the 
> > > > Universal consciousness needs with earthly real estate.
> > > 
> > > Neither can I.  Do you think that's a relevant
> > > issue?
> > 
> > What "I" think really doesn't matter on the universal scale of 
> > things. Afterall who am I? 
> 
> Sidestep.  You raised the question.
> 
> > Nor do the "unassailable fininacial foundations" found on  a 
> > limited physical plane in an infinite universe.
> 
> Do they matter on the limited physical plane, you
> know, the one we happen to be living in?
> 
> > > Or might it have more to do with wanting the TMO
> > > to have an unassailable financial foundation so
> > > it's not dependent on economic conditions?
> > > 
> > > Oh, you didn't answer my question:
> > 
> > As for the linear time issue of when these rules were written. 
Who 
> > knows,,,who should care, the issue is truth and truth is 
timeless. 
> 
> Sidestep.  How do you know these rules represent
> Timeless Truth in an infinite universe, as opposed
> to time-bound rules for a limited physical plane?
> 
> How come an unassailable financial foundation doesn't
> matter, but written-down rules are crucially important?
> 
> With all this sidestepping, I have to assume you
> took my points but are reluctant to say so.
>

Assume what you will,,,you will anyway,,, I'll assume.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
>  wrote:
> 
>> For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another wonderful 
Maheshism. 
> Someone asked him about prayer. He quipped "you don't apply to the 
> World Bank for $2.00"
> 
> Well, here's the little guy, giggling at his own jokes, convincing 
> others that they are going to reach cosmic consciousness and he 
makes 
> a crack like that. 
> 
> Tells me there's something stinky in Vlodrop.

He does strike me as a bit of a "stinker".  Ah more power to him i 
suppose,,,I should have his money.


>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another wonderful
> Maheshism. Someone asked him about prayer. He quipped "you don't 
> apply to the World Bank for $2.00"

I'm sure that's the complete context of his
remark, isn't it, gerbal?


> 
> Well, here's the little guy, giggling at his own jokes, convincing 
> others that they are going to reach cosmic consciousness and he makes 
> a crack like that. 
> 
> Tells me there's something stinky in Vlodrop.
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from what 
> > > I can see. 
> > > 
> > > But then I can't for the life of me figure out what the 
> > > Universal consciousness needs with earthly real estate.
> > 
> > Neither can I.  Do you think that's a relevant
> > issue?
> 
> What "I" think really doesn't matter on the universal scale of 
> things. Afterall who am I? 

Sidestep.  You raised the question.

> Nor do the "unassailable fininacial foundations" found on  a 
> limited physical plane in an infinite universe.

Do they matter on the limited physical plane, you
know, the one we happen to be living in?

> > Or might it have more to do with wanting the TMO
> > to have an unassailable financial foundation so
> > it's not dependent on economic conditions?
> > 
> > Oh, you didn't answer my question:
> 
> As for the linear time issue of when these rules were written. Who 
> knows,,,who should care, the issue is truth and truth is timeless. 

Sidestep.  How do you know these rules represent
Timeless Truth in an infinite universe, as opposed
to time-bound rules for a limited physical plane?

How come an unassailable financial foundation doesn't
matter, but written-down rules are crucially important?

With all this sidestepping, I have to assume you
took my points but are reluctant to say so.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What "I" think really doesn't matter on the universal scale of 
> things. Afterall who am I? 
> 
> Nor do the "unassailable fininacial foundations" found on  a limited 
> physical plane in an infinite universe.
 
> As for the linear time issue of when these rules were written. Who 
> knows,,,who should care, the issue is truth and truth is timeless. 
> 
> IamwhoIam

For some reason, Bill, you reminded me of another wonderful Maheshism. 
Someone asked him about prayer. He quipped "you don't apply to the 
World Bank for $2.00"

Well, here's the little guy, giggling at his own jokes, convincing 
others that they are going to reach cosmic consciousness and he makes 
a crack like that. 

Tells me there's something stinky in Vlodrop.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: From a MUM web page,,sparaig, authfriend

2006-08-14 Thread Bill (William)Simmons


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > He is a brillant business man and real estate magnet from what I 
> > can see. 
> > 
> > But then I can't for the life of me figure out what the 
Universal 
> > consciousness needs with earthly real estate.
> 
> Neither can I.  Do you think that's a relevant
> issue?



What "I" think really doesn't matter on the universal scale of 
things. Afterall who am I? 

Nor do the "unassailable fininacial foundations" found on  a limited 
physical plane in an infinite universe.



> 
> Or might it have more to do with wanting the TMO
> to have an unassailable financial foundation so
> it's not dependent on economic conditions?
> 
> Oh, you didn't answer my question:


As for the linear time issue of when these rules were written. Who 
knows,,,who should care, the issue is truth and truth is timeless. 

IamwhoIam
 
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bill (William)Simmons" 
> > >  wrote:
> 
> > > > I am pretty certain Hindu law itself forbids the charging of 
> > > > money for spiritual teachings. Words like,,,"damnable hell" 
> > > > comes to mind.
> > > 
> > > And how many centuries ago was this "law" handed down,
> > > do you know?  Was it addressing the situation of
> > > teachers who headed a mass movement to instruct many
> > > millions of people around the world?
>






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