[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin vs Tegmark on consciousness

2016-01-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Without going into minute differences, the vast majority of neurophysiologists and physicists would agree with Tegmark that consciousness is an emergent property of matter. Those who argue along those lines start to talk about a material object being affected by surrounding objects. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin vs Tegmark on consciousness

2016-01-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Without going into minute differences, the vast majority of neurophysiologists and physicists would agree with Tegmark that consciousness is an emergent property of matter. Those who argue along those lines start to talk about a material object being affected by surrounding objects. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin vs Tegmark on consciousness

2016-01-04 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
No. he's saying (not me), that relating to the "hard problem" of consciousness, the feeling of the emergent properties of atoms/moleculs is consciousness; but the emergence of such must have certain necessary conditions such as Perceptronium, Computronium (which are nothing but more molecules ar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hagelin vs Tegmark on consciousness

2016-01-04 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"Our subjective awareness of consciousness is the feeling of such arrangements" - isn't that completely circular reasoning? Tegmark's musings are reminiscent of medieval theologians. He thinks all possible structures exist somewhere; the theologians argued that the immense number of potentia