[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. No, it doesn't. You need to shore up on both your math skills and GDP figures. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. No, it doesn't. You need to shore up on both your math skills and GDP figures. So how much would YOU consider to be a reasonable assessment of the coast of eliminating poverty in the world (defined by having a lifestyle that provides enough comfort to allow at least SOME time to devote to self-actualizing activities, including TM, and playing guitar/etc)? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. No, it doesn't. You need to shore up on both your math skills and GDP figures. So how much would YOU consider to be a reasonable assessment of the coast of eliminating poverty in the world (defined by having a lifestyle that provides enough comfort to allow at least SOME time to devote to self-actualizing activities, including TM, and playing guitar/etc)? Jeffrey Sachs says it is about 150 billion a year for the next 10-15 years. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. No, it doesn't. You need to shore up on both your math skills and GDP figures. So how much would YOU consider to be a reasonable assessment of the coast of eliminating poverty in the world (defined by having a lifestyle that provides enough comfort to allow at least SOME time to devote to self-actualizing activities, including TM, and playing guitar/etc)? Jeffrey Sachs says it is about 150 billion a year for the next 10- 15 years. To bring everyone's income in the world up tot he equivalent of lower middle class?? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. No, it doesn't. You need to shore up on both your math skills and GDP figures. So how much would YOU consider to be a reasonable assessment of the coast of eliminating poverty in the world (defined by having a lifestyle that provides enough comfort to allow at least SOME time to devote to self-actualizing activities, including TM, and playing guitar/etc)? Jeffrey Sachs says it is about 150 billion a year for the next 10- 15 years. To bring everyone's income in the world up tot he equivalent of lower middle class?? No, to eradicate poverty. I don't think Sachs includes time to play one's guitar. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Spare Egg, $10 trillion is the silliest thing in the world. Do you have any idea how much that is? It's as silly as the guy in my high school that ran for Student Council president who promised, if elected, that there will be beer dispensed in every water fountain in the school. It doesn't matter ifthe figure is an unrealistic goal. in fact, it sounds like a reasonable assessment of the cost of accomplishing the stated goal. No, it doesn't. You need to shore up on both your math skills and GDP figures. So how much would YOU consider to be a reasonable assessment of the coast of eliminating poverty in the world (defined by having a lifestyle that provides enough comfort to allow at least SOME time to devote to self-actualizing activities, including TM, and playing guitar/etc)? Jeffrey Sachs says it is about 150 billion a year for the next 10- 15 years. To bring everyone's income in the world up tot he equivalent of lower middle class?? No, to eradicate poverty. I don't think Sachs includes time to play one's guitar. Maharishi's definitionof poverty is slightly different I think. ONe can manage to get enough to eat and not have any time/energy/inclination to progress in life. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That you desire and the thing is there. You wish -- the thing is there. Remember the discussions recently about why Maharishi so seldom follows through on his grand schemes? I think the answer to that question is right here. Because he really believes what he say above, there is never a *need* to follow through on the ideas. They were a reality to him the moment he thought of them. Just thinking of the idea meant that they were already well on the way to being manifest. I'd be willing to bet that he has never *noticed* the failed and abandoned projects over the years. He lost interest in them the moment he thought of the idea and set people to raising money for it. Not that this is a bad thing [token Seinfeldism], if you really have the ability to manifest your desires by just thinking them. But if you don't... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Sal On Mar 10, 2006, at 12:20 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Not that this is a bad thing [token Seinfeldism], if you really have the ability to manifest your desires by just thinking them. But if you don't...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
Has anyone ever told Maharishi ever that of the thousands who moved and left FF, many many many people become more impoverished than ever and, it seems, for many, the longer they stayed on this *wonderful program to smash poverty* the more poverty stricken they became? It's still both unfathomable to me (and others) and unconscionable (is that a word?!) of him that he/TM org. could still be making this claim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All from December 1, 2005: Maharishi: How do you smash poverty? You take poverty to the extreme level, where there is absolutely nothing. And you have smashed poverty. And when there is absolutely nothing, you find absolutely everything. And that is real richness. Real richness is real richness. Underline this thing a thousand times. Real richness is not in the countable wealth -- million, billion, trillion, and whatever -- it's not in terms of wealth. In terms of the source of all wealth. Source of infinite wealth. That you desire and the thing is there. You wish -- the thing is there. That is real wealthy. And to this class we want to raise the poor. ...It's not concerned with countable coins and wealth, but it is in terms of that affluence which is a field of all possibilities. All wealth is an aspect of it. But wealth is not -- alone -- total life. There is power. There is power. And there is knowledge. And there is bliss. ...Our poverty removal is -- removal of anything that may not be totality. Removal of anything that is not totality. And that is one's own self-sufficiency. One's own consciousness. One's own consciousness. And that is predominantly a matter of attention. Attention. ...We have the program of poverty removal, and this is in terms of the worldly understanding of it. But when we know from where we are functioning for these, and where we want to take our people, we want to take our people -- not to a wealth which can be minimized, or which can be stolen away, or which can be a cause of pains and tears. But a level where bliss is moving, where the waves are the waves of bliss. . Dreaming state of consciousness is -- something is seen in terms of something else. There is a tree, and you see it like a lion jumping on you. This is dream. sp; Something is seen as something else. God Consciousness is also: something seen in terms of something else. You see a mango tree, and you see Krishna is there, and you see this Vishnu is there. Something seen in terms of something else. That is God Consciousness. God Consciousness. Something seen as something else. You see something, but you see God in it. You see something -- God in it. . Poverty means a man is poor. That means he has less money. Now when we want him to have more money, our program is to completely deprive him of anything that even he has now. And that we say -- that is our program to eliminate poverty. He has some money -- he is poor. Now we want him to have more money. The program is: To deprive him for whatever he has -- take him to a vacuum state. Take him to the hollowness. To nothingness. To abstraction. To unmanifest. And show -- prove to him that he has everything. He got everything. In one sense we take him to nothingness. And in the same sense, miraculously, we put him to deprivation of nothingness. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever told Maharishi ever that of the thousands who moved and left FF, many many many people become more impoverished than ever and, it seems, for many, the longer they stayed on this *wonderful program to smash poverty* the more poverty stricken they became? It's still both unfathomable to me (and others) and unconscionable (is that a word?!) of him that he/TM org. could still be making this claim. And the chains holding us to do this, or to listen to this, are where? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: That you desire and the thing is there. You wish -- the thing is there. Remember the discussions recently about why Maharishi so seldom follows through on his grand schemes? I think the answer to that question is right here. Because he really believes what he say above, there is never a *need* to follow through on the ideas. They were a reality to him the moment he thought of them. Just thinking of the idea meant that they were already well on the way to being manifest. I'd be willing to bet that he has never *noticed* the failed and abandoned projects over the years. He lost interest in them the moment he thought of the idea and set people to raising money for it. Not that this is a bad thing [token Seinfeldism], if you really have the ability to manifest your desires by just thinking them. But if you don't... Some themes MMY returns to again and again, and some he doesn't. Perhaps its a matter of testing the waters to see how receptive Reality is to a certain activity. Or perhaps he's testing the people he assigns to fulfill that desire of his. Or perhaps both. Or neither. Unfathomable are the ways of karma or whatever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever told Maharishi ever that of the thousands who moved and left FF, many many many people become more impoverished than ever and, it seems, for many, the longer they stayed on this *wonderful program to smash poverty* the more poverty stricken they became? It's still both unfathomable to me (and others) and unconscionable (is that a word?!) of him that he/TM org. could still be making this claim. Are the people on program in Fairfield happy with their lives, both inside and outside? Then they are wealthy in the way that MMY has talked about: enjoying 200% of life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: All from December 1, 2005: Maharishi: How do you smash poverty? You take poverty to the extreme level, where there is absolutely nothing. And you have smashed poverty. And when there is absolutely nothing, you find absolutely everything. And that is real richness. [...] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All from December 1, 2005: Maharishi: How do you smash poverty? You take poverty to the extreme level, where there is absolutely nothing. And you have smashed poverty. And when there is absolutely nothing, you find absolutely everything. And that is real richness. Real richness is real richness. Underline this thing a thousand times. Real richness is not in the countable wealth -- million, billion, trillion, and whatever -- it's not in terms of wealth. In terms of the source of all wealth. Source of infinite wealth. That you desire and the thing is there. You wish -- the thing is there. That is real wealthy. And to this class we want to raise the poor. ...It's not concerned with countable coins and wealth, but it is in terms of that affluence which is a field of all possibilities. All wealth is an aspect of it. But wealth is not -- alone -- total life. There is power. There is power. And there is knowledge. And there is bliss. ...Our poverty removal is -- removal of anything that may not be totality. Removal of anything that is not totality. And that is one's own self-sufficiency. One's own consciousness. One's own consciousness. And that is predominantly a matter of attention. Attention. ...We have the program of poverty removal, and this is in terms of the worldly understanding of it. But when we know from where we are functioning for these, and where we want to take our people, we want to take our people -- not to a wealth which can be minimized, or which can be stolen away, or which can be a cause of pains and tears. But a level where bliss is moving, where the waves are the waves of bliss. . Dreaming state of consciousness is -- something is seen in terms of something else. There is a tree, and you see it like a lion jumping on you. This is dream. sp; Something is seen as something else. God Consciousness is also: something seen in terms of something else. You see a mango tree, and you see Krishna is there, and you see this Vishnu is there. Something seen in terms of something else. That is God Consciousness. God Consciousness. Something seen as something else. You see something, but you see God in it. You see something -- God in it. . Poverty means a man is poor. That means he has less money. Now when we want him to have more money, our program is to completely deprive him of anything that even he has now. And that we say -- that is our program to eliminate poverty. He has some money -- he is poor. Now we want him to have more money. The program is: To deprive him for whatever he has -- take him to a vacuum state. Take him to the hollowness. To nothingness. To abstraction. To unmanifest. And show -- prove to him that he has everything. He got everything. In one sense we take him to nothingness. And in the same sense, miraculously, we put him to deprivation of nothingness. I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: That you desire and the thing is there. You wish -- the thing is there. Remember the discussions recently about why Maharishi so seldom follows through on his grand schemes? I think the answer to that question is right here. Because he really believes what he say above, there is never a *need* to follow through on the ideas. They were a reality to him the moment he thought of them. Just thinking of the idea meant that they were already well on the way to being manifest. I'd be willing to bet that he has never *noticed* the failed and abandoned projects over the years. He lost interest in them the moment he thought of the idea and set people to raising money for it. Not that this is a bad thing [token Seinfeldism], ...if you're going to invoke Seinfeldism, do it properly. It's not that there's anything wrong with it... if you really have the ability to manifest your desires by just thinking them. But if you don't... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did nobody read this: ..Underline this thing a thousand times. Real richness is not in the countable wealth -- million, billion, trillion, and whatever -- it's not in terms of wealth. In terms of the source of all wealth. Source of infinite wealth. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] I love everything he says here. But why, then, does he come up with silly poverty programs like the $10 trillion organic food growing scheme? Am I missing something? IT's not allthat silly, unless you thinkthat the $10 trillion has to be obtained overnight. $10 trillion is apparently the estimated cost to implement the program globally in such a way as to eliminate the problem of poverty. That's all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi: Where we want to take our people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Did nobody read this: ..Underline this thing a thousand times. Real richness is not in the countable wealth -- million, billion, trillion, and whatever -- it's not in terms of wealth. In terms of the source of all wealth. Source of infinite wealth. And? Are we supposed to be impressed that Maharishi can state the obvious, from a spiritual point of view? The issue would seem to be not in the pretty words but in what one *does* about them. If he had actually made that source of all wealth *available* to the general public at a price they can afford, that would be one thing. To have consciously made a decision to make it available only to the already financially well-to-do, to the point that this knowledge is almost never taught any more, is quite another. Listen to what people say, but watch what they *do*. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
