[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? It's about 25 miles from Fairfield, so the odor would not be a problem -- there are a number of many-thousands hog lots planned for Fairfield's Jefferson County, and those will almost all be approved. The laughable part is, it's only the 2nd permit denial in a decade, because the state legislature, after intense lobbying by the hog industry, took control over permitting of hog lots from the counties and transferred it to a state agency, in order to disable counties from stopping these lots. The control of hog lot permits needs to go back to the counties, that's the only solution. Poor and lightly-populated counties, like Van Buren, can have all the hog lots they want, and prosperous and more populated counties like Jefferson can bar them. I think in 5 or ten years, control of hog-lot permits will go back to the counties, because voters will eject from office any reps who won't vote for such a return, but by that time, many of these hog lots will be grandfathered in and will be around for a long time, to the detriment of the noses and water quality in areas near these lots. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? It's about 25 miles from Fairfield, so the odor would not be a problem -- there are a number of many-thousands hog lots planned for Fairfield's Jefferson County, and those will almost all be approved. *Thousands* of new hog lots in one county?? Has the market for pork suddenly exploded, or what? Why do they suddenly need thousands of hog lots in Jefferson County? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? It's about 25 miles from Fairfield, so the odor would not be a problem -- there are a number of many-thousands hog lots planned for Fairfield's Jefferson County, and those will almost all be approved. *Thousands* of new hog lots in one county?? Has the market for pork suddenly exploded, or what? Why do they suddenly need thousands of hog lots in Jefferson County? I think that a number of many-thousands hog lots means what it says: a number of hog lots that would accomodate many thousands of hogs per lot. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? It's about 25 miles from Fairfield, so the odor would not be a problem -- there are a number of many-thousands hog lots planned for Fairfield's Jefferson County, and those will almost all be approved. *Thousands* of new hog lots in one county?? Has the market for pork suddenly exploded, or what? Why do they suddenly need thousands of hog lots in Jefferson County? I think that a number of many-thousands hog lots means what it says: a number of hog lots that would accomodate many thousands of hogs per lot. ** Showing how little interest the state authorities have in policing these hog lots (this one for 4300 hogs, an appalling source of stench for the neighborhood), an article in the Ottumwa Courier notes that it was only because local residents forced facts on the state agency that this permit was denied: http://www.ottumwacourier.com/local/local_story_108230200.html But the DNR did not discover these miscalculations on its own. Stan Vanderhorst, a member of the Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement group and the closest neighbor to the proposed lot, said it was he and other residents in the area who brought the miscalculations to the attention of the DNR. We brought the numbers to their attention. To my knowledge, the DNR is so understaffed that they have to take the producers' words for this. I've farmed most of my life and one time I almost built one of these buildings and I knew what it had to be, he said. Another neighbor, Paul Steele, said it wasn't easy getting the DNR to listen to their concerns, however. They would have never caught it if it wasn't brought to their attention. They said we were wrong from the beginning and they ignored us. Then when we brought it to the [Environmental Protection Commission] board members, we got some wheels to move, he said. We had to do some research ... it is not something that pops right out at you. Some of the neighbors purchased a copy of the manure management plan. What we found with this was the way it was done would make us suspect the rest of [proposed hog lots]. I think one in Davis County has the same problem. It makes you get real suspicious of all of it. Vanderhorst agreed. This raises concerns to me about how many buildings are out there that aren't right. I think there is always that concern that exists everywhere. I urge everyone, if they hear of [a hog lot] coming up to make sure it is done according to law, he said. Neighbors to the proposed lot near Farson contend they are not against hog operations if they are operated by the people who own the confinement and actually live at the site. Their frustration, they say, is toward so-called factory farms. This is truly what I call a factory farm. They weren't going to be doing the physical labor or living there. I'm all for the family farms. I just don't want the factory farms taking over. I want things done according to the way the EPC regulations state it, Vanderhorst said. I have a lot of friends that raise hogs, I'm not after those people who are trying to make a living and live with the hogs, said Steele. (more at link) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? It's about 25 miles from Fairfield, so the odor would not be a problem -- there are a number of many-thousands hog lots planned for Fairfield's Jefferson County, and those will almost all be approved. *Thousands* of new hog lots in one county?? Has the market for pork suddenly exploded, or what? Why do they suddenly need thousands of hog lots in Jefferson County? I think that a number of many-thousands hog lots means what it says: a number of hog lots that would accomodate many thousands of hogs per lot. OIC. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
OIC. OINK. I believe the word you are looking for here is actually OINK. --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Whoopee -- hog factory near Ottumwa disallowed -- this is only the 2nd time in 10 years that a hog factory has not been permitted: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16503193BRD This is the one that's had Fairfield so up in arms, or a different one? It's about 25 miles from Fairfield, so the odor would not be a problem -- there are a number of many-thousands hog lots planned for Fairfield's Jefferson County, and those will almost all be approved. *Thousands* of new hog lots in one county?? Has the market for pork suddenly exploded, or what? Why do they suddenly need thousands of hog lots in Jefferson County? I think that a number of many-thousands hog lots means what it says: a number of hog lots that would accomodate many thousands of hogs per lot. OIC. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OIC. OINK. I believe the word you are looking for here is actually OINK. Who you callin' a pig? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ottumwa-area hog factory disallowed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl@ wrote: OIC. OINK. I believe the word you are looking for here is actually OINK. Who you callin' a pig? +++ Off subject- I enjoyed your further venture into colorful writing with nitwitery a while back. I Had to wonder if that meant nitwiticisms written by a nitwiticist being nitwiticistic. thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
