Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences
on 8/23/06 2:09 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had someone contact me recently to assist with a degree they are
doing on aspects of MMY and the TMO. I am already aware of Dr
Coplin's work.
But to whom
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on 8/23/06 2:09 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had someone contact me recently to assist with a degree they are
doing on aspects of MMY and the TMO. I am already aware of Dr
Coplin's work.
But
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences
on 8/24/06 5:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 8/23/06 2:09 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL
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on 8/24/06 5:03 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
He might be referring to Rob McCutchean, who wrote a paper on
it which you¹ll find in our files section.
I couldn't find this, Rick. Could you
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on 8/24/06 5:03 PM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
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He might be referring to Rob McCutchean, who wrote a paper on
it which you¹ll find in our
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
I read what he writes. He is completely absolutely 100% incorrect to
distinguish this fanciful 'MMY/TMO enlightenment' or 'MMY-style
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 8/22/06 1:56 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is really odd and funny, if not delusional, is that we
are asked, by implication, to suspend disbelief and support the
notion, that Jim who has such
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
From the idea that enlightened states of consciousness are
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on 8/22/06 12:34 PM, jyouells2000 at jyouells@ wrote:
I probably have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason
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Even though the terms Transcendental Meditation TM had not been
coined, in 'Thirty Years Around the World' it states catagorically
that before the yagna performed in October 1955, 'Throughout Kerala
Maharishi was
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
From the idea that enlightened states of consciousness are STATES OF
Whether 'associated' or 'name', at least one TM bij mantra is a
familiar name for a Hindu god, in fact it is a fairly common name in
India. In fact Google has no fewer than 11,500 images associated with
just one spelling of the 'name' ( 2,940,000 hits webwide).
Indeed corruptions of other TM
on 8/21/06 1:38 PM, curtisdeltablues at
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
My prediction is that anyone who gets on the
enlightened list will
be banned from future courses. MMY's
organization is not built for
people who claim to have reached the goal. The
only one
(snip)
No TMO/MMY enlightenment afer MMY passes then? Tougher for both
parties to get to the mic then.
JohnY
The thing about being enlightened is: as Maharishi has said: that:
one has access to all knowledge.
Therefore, it would follow from this, then:
If one is enlightened, then one has
I post stuff for information, not to refute other people's opinions.
It is very difficult (if not impossible) to reconcile some of the
things that MMY has said.
Incidentally, there is currently a time lapse to my postings of many
hours, this message is being sent from FFL website at Wed Aug 23
Several postings have not yet appeared, which I posted prior to this
message, but maybe there is still a chance they will. Oh well, at
least the time lapse appears to have been arighted.
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I post stuff for information,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Listen, Paul, she's going to beat you over the head until you
realize that no matter how many times in how many ways Maharishi
has said that the mantras are names of gods, that they are not the
names of gods.
I
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Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whether 'associated' or 'name', at least one TM bij mantra is a
familiar name for a Hindu god, in fact it is a fairly common name in
India. In fact Google has no fewer than 11,500 images associated with
just one
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wrote:
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Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
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MMY is on record as advocating freedom from the restrictions of the
binding power of speech. I am sympathetic with anyone who attempts to
reconcile his various statements about mantras, the effects of
meditation, the genesis of TM, et al.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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Where on earth do you get this idea that when someone posts
something they are asking by implication that it be supported by
those on this
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on 8/21/06 4:41 PM, curtisdeltablues at
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I would be very interested to hear
In 'Meditation: easy system propounded by Maharishi Mahesh
Yogi'
(c1959) there is to be found a series of questions which
includes
the
following:
Q. How does meditation improve the fortune of a man?
A. Our system of meditation involves the All Mighty Power.
All that can safely said is that the bija mantras pre-date our age.
People stuck for something to say tend to go 'mm', which is
just about how the pranava bij mantra is correctly spelt i.e. Long uu
long nasal M. That appears to be natural, and is likely to predate
experiments with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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All that can safely said is that the bija mantras pre-date
our age.
I believe there is some evidence that the bija mantras
predate traditional Hinduism, actually.
People stuck for something to say tend to go
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MMY is on record as advocating freedom from the restrictions of the
binding power of speech. I am sympathetic with anyone who attempts to
reconcile his various statements about mantras, the effects of
meditation, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
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Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
All that can safely said is that the bija mantras
pre-date
our age.
I believe there is some evidence that the bija
mantras
predate traditional Hinduism, actually.
there are people who got their PhD's in Sociology by researching the
early history of MMY and the TMO, who aren't nearly as cynical.
Is there anything online about this? I would like to read some more
early movement history.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MMY is on record as advocating freedom from the restrictions of the
binding power of speech. I am sympathetic with anyone who attempts
to reconcile his various statements about mantras, the effects of
meditation, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason
premanandpaul@
wrote:
All that can safely said is that the bija mantras
pre-date
our age.
I believe there is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
there are people who got their PhD's in Sociology by researching the
early history of MMY and the TMO, who aren't nearly as cynical.
Is there anything online about this? I would like to read some more
Thanks.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
there are people who got their PhD's in Sociology by researching the
early history of MMY and the TMO, who aren't nearly
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
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on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
(snip)
No TMO/MMY enlightenment afer MMY passes then? Tougher for both
parties to get to the mic then.
JohnY
The thing about being enlightened is: as Maharishi has said: that:
one has access to all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
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shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[I wrote:]
That's what folks claim he said in his Beacon Light
address too, but he didn't.
What people or organization find it useful to spread false
qutations from Maharishi on the net ?
Trancenet, for one.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
One might say that the bija mantras are abstract
sounds that embody the devas (as opposed to their
*names*--Shiva, Lakshmi, and so on), in the nama-
and-rupa, name-and-form, formulation. Name as
a translation of
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wrote:
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wrote:
---
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[...]
One might say that the bija mantras are abstract
sounds that embody the devas (as opposed to their
*names*--Shiva, Lakshmi, and so on), in the nama-
I had someone contact me recently to assist with a degree they are
doing on aspects of MMY and the TMO. I am already aware of Dr
Coplin's work.
But to whom are your referring to when you write of 'people who got
their PhD's in Sociology by researching the early history of MMY and
the TMO'?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 8/22/06 9:11 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
What he's saying makes perfect sense on its face; it's
virtually a truism: to claim MMY-style enlightenment
(not new morning's own definition), you need
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 8/22/06 9:11 AM, authfriend at jstein@ wrote:
What he's saying makes perfect sense on its face; it's
virtually a truism: to claim MMY-style enlightenment
(not new morning's own definition), you need
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
[...]
One might say that the bija mantras are abstract
sounds that embody the devas
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason
premanandpaul@ wrote:
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wrote:
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shempmcgurk@
wrote:
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
wrote:
(snip)
No TMO/MMY enlightenment afer MMY passes then? Tougher for both
parties to get to the mic then.
JohnY
The thing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@
wrote:
(snip)
No TMO/MMY enlightenment afer MMY passes then? Tougher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly the map is different than the territory. The
barest of
information, enough to quide and inspire. How else
can the non-dual
descriptions be reconciled with what
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote:
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on 8/21/06 9:26 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That
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[...]
Major states of consciousness may have 6 billion
different flavors, but there are consistent
features found in just about all 6 billion
variations of the themes.
Has
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on 8/21/06 10:17 PM, new.morning at
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And it lacks integrity to claim an
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
--- jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote:
Maybe Maharishi isn't fully convinced about the
physiological
correlates either. Otherwise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@ wrote:
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Maybe Maharishi isn't
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Again, which state? And, while perhaps I misremember the original
letter, my recollection is that Kaplan reported MMY as
saying there is no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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However to proclaim MMY/TMO BC or other TMO/MMY style of
enlightenment
without his confirmation is delusion or lack of integrity.
You yourself mentioned the trap of misinterpreating some form of
awakening as being
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
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All yours and others apparent desire to proclaim their
awakenings as the same as MMY/TMO enlightenment is quite
odd. Just pronounce what
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All yours and others apparent desire to proclaim their
awakenings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He is hardly a walking advertisment for liberation. More an
advertisment for the possible dangers of sustained practice of
neuro-physiological techniques for self-development.
Your game is pathetic and tiresome my
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no_reply@
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All yours and others apparent desire to proclaim
their
awakenings as the same as
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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All yours and others apparent desire to proclaim their
awakenings
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--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
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no_reply@
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All yours and
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
What is really odd and funny, if not delusional, is that we are asked
to suspend disbelief and support the notion that Jim who has such poor
comprehension skills, and who regularly makes cognitive errors, is
able to clearly interpret his experiences, and self-proclaim himself
as in BC.
As
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My recollection of the letter is different than what is now
displayed. Perhaps my recollection is wrong or perhaps that
is tidied up from his original comments.
With the vastly improved search function, you should have no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pray tell, do we or is there a consensus on MMY style
enlightenment?
Clearly there is a concensus on what the TMO and MMY consider
enlightenment by the one person who counts: MMY. And probably a clear
concensus among TMO
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is really odd and funny, if not delusional, is that we are asked
to suspend disbelief and support the notion that Jim who has such
poor
comprehension skills, and who regularly makes cognitive errors, is
able to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
snip
It's kinda the same answer I give when people ask me whether the
mantras used in TM are the names of gods: I wouldn't want to
practise a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
My recollection of the letter is different than what is now
displayed. Perhaps my recollection is wrong or perhaps that
is tidied up from his original
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@
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on 8/21/06 6:38 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote:
Has MMY claimed full
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It's kinda the same answer I give when people ask me whether the
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shempmcgurk@
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It's kinda the same answer I give when people ask me whether
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
My recollection of the letter is different than what is now
displayed.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
on 8/21/06 3:11 PM, sparaig at sparaig@ wrote:
--- In
In 'Meditation: easy system propounded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'
(c1959) there is to be found a series of questions which includes the
following:
Q. How does meditation improve the fortune of a man?
A. Our system of meditation involves the All Mighty Power. We take
the 'MANTRA' of some God
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
What is really odd and funny, if not delusional, is that we are asked
to suspend disbelief and support the notion that Jim who has such
poor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 jyouells@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
snip
Again, which state? And, while perhaps I misremember the original
letter,
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences
on 8/22/06 9:11 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What he's saying makes perfect sense on its face; it's
virtually a truism: to claim MMY-style enlightenment
(not new morning's own definition), you need to meet
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences
on 8/22/06 12:34 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I probably have the original version that was posted here. I'll look.
My recollection is that the implication of that version is the same.
But I'll check to see
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shempmcgurk@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In 'Meditation: easy system propounded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'
(c1959) there is to be found a series of questions which includes the
following:
Q. How does meditation improve the fortune of a man?
A. Our system
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In 'Meditation: easy system propounded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'
(c1959) there is to be found a series of questions which includes
the
following:
Q. How does meditation improve the fortune of a man?
A. Our system
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All the mantras I teach in TM are the names of Hindu gods and I
don't care what Alan Dershowitz or the Superior Court of New Jersey
says about
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What is really odd and funny, if not delusional, is that we
are asked
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Sorry, I am not playing this game with you.
OK then. You claimed a point I made was inaccurate. I sought
clarificaion. You obsfucated and punted as usual. (Usually a sign of
no substantive points to make)
As I said
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences
on 8/22/06 1:56 PM, new.morning at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is really odd and funny, if not delusional, is that we
are asked, by implication, to suspend disbelief and support the
notion, that Jim who has such poor
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Sorry, I am not playing this game with you.
OK then. You claimed a point I made was inaccurate. I sought
clarificaion. You obsfucated and
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I read what he writes. He is completely absolutely 100% incorrect to
distinguish this fanciful 'MMY/TMO enlightenment' or 'MMY-style
enlightenment' from other modes or styles of enlightenment. Only a
mind in
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Does exhibiting or not exhibiting particular subtle dualistic
phenomena qualify as experiencing It differently?
Hi, I was referring to an awakened person's experience, not
necessarily their observed presence. Meaning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason
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In 'Meditation: easy system propounded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'
(c1959) there is to be found a series of questions which includes
the
following:
Q. How does meditation improve the fortune of a man?
A. Our system
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on 8/22/06 12:34 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I probably have the original version that was posted here. I'll look.
My recollection is that the implication of that version is the same.
But I'll
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All the mantras I teach in TM are the names of Hindu gods and I
don't
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on 8/22/06 12:34 PM, jyouells2000 at jyouells@ wrote:
I probably have the original version that was posted here. I'll
look.
My recollection
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question on suitability of experiences
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on 8/22/06 12:34 PM, jyouells2000
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