[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
French Transcendentalists.. French Origins of American Transcendentalism https://www.jstor.org/stable/1414105?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents https://www.jstor.org/stable/1414105?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Importing Transcendentalism (German) to America HISTORICAL NOTE American Turners Records, http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and their groups of separatist transcendentalists across Europe are often a theme in these communal narratives. Recently retired to a safety in community of meditating Fairfield, Iowa a meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept their practice of meditation secret to avoid persecution. .. Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement. An irony now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there today. This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in Fairfield too. This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield as a transcendental meditationist. Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so great in Fairfield. And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now. .. In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and across time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. .. Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
French Transcendentalists.. French Origins of American Transcendentalism https://www.jstor.org/stable/1414105?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents https://www.jstor.org/stable/1414105?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Importing Transcendentalism (German) to America HISTORICAL NOTE American Turners Records, http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 http://www.ulib.iupui.edu/collections/german-american/mss030 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and their groups of separatist transcendentalists across Europe are often a theme in these communal narratives. Recently retired to a safety in community of meditating Fairfield, Iowa a meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept their practice of meditation secret to avoid persecution. .. Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement. An irony now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there today. This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in Fairfield too. This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield as a transcendental meditationist. Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so great in Fairfield. And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now. .. In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and across time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. .. Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Cre
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and their groups of separatist transcendentalists across Europe are often a theme in these communal narratives. Recently retired to a safety in community of meditating Fairfield, Iowa a meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept their practice of meditation secret to avoid persecution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement. An irony now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there today. This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in Fairfield too. This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield as a transcendental meditationist. Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so great in Fairfield. And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and across time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
In the first two minutes this short video clip being sent around the Fairfield meditating community correlates well with this thread, the ‘separatist’ thesis that runs through Western history. This Franciscan relating their search for spirituality similar to the Cistercian journey that is related further below in the thread. Emerging Church, Richard Rohr Richard Rohr: Clear, humorful and so encouraging! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2KCLNfwJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP2KCLNfwJQ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Richard Rohr on Meditation.. In his critique of common religion this is another good example of a mystic transcendentalist going ‘separate’ from denominational creedal doctrinal religionists. This e-mail of text is being forwarded around the Fairfield, Iowa meditating community recently, [Paste:] A Tuning Fork Contemplative prayer is like striking a tuning fork. All you can really do in the spiritual life is resonate to the true pitch, to receive the always-present message. Once you are tuned, you willreceive, and it has nothing to do with worthiness or the group you belong to, but only inner resonance, a capacity for mutuality (see Matthew 7:7-11), which implies a basic humility. We must begin with the knowledge that the Sender is absolutely and always present and broadcasting; the only change is with the receiver station, you and me. Prayer is connecting with God/Ultimate Reality. It is not an attempt to change God’s mind about us or about events. Such arrogance is what unbelievers make fun of—and often rightly so. Prayer is primarily about changing our own mind so that things like infinity, mystery, and forgiveness can resound within us. The small mind cannot see great things because the two are on different frequencies or channels. We must match our resonance to Love’s. Like knows like. Without contemplation, the best you can do is to know by comparison, calculation, and from the limited viewpoint of “you.” Prayer knows reality in a totally different way. Instead of presenting a guarded self to the moment, prayer stops defending or promoting its ideas and feelings, and waits for, expects, and receives guidance from Another. It offers itself naked to the now, so that our inner and aroused lover can meet the Lover. Such prayer takes major surgery of heart, mind, and inner sight. Prayer is about changing you, not about changing God. Most simply put, prayer is something that happens to you (Romans 8:26-27), much more than anything you privately do. It is an allowing of the Big Self more than an assertion of the small self. Eventually you will find yourself preferring to say, “Prayer happened, and I was there” more than “I prayed today.” All you know is that you are being led, guided, loved, used, and prayed through. You are no longer in the driver’s seat. Following this guidance you will know what is yours to do. God stops being an object of attention like any other object in the world, and becomes at some level your own “I Am.” You start knowing through, with, and in Somebody Else. And then your little “I Am” becomes “We Are.” Afterward you know instinctively that your life is not about you, but you are about Life. “I live now not I, but Another Life lives in me,” to paraphrase Paul’s poetic words (Galatians 2:20). This does not mean you are morally or psychologically perfect. Not at all. But you will now have the freedom to recognize your failings and to grow and love better because of them. That is the major and important difference! Gateway to Silence: Be still and still moving. -Richard Rohr ..] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and their groups of separatist transcendentalists across Europe are often a theme in these communal narratives. Recently retired to a safety in community of meditating Fairfield, Iowa a meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept their practice of meditation secret to avoid persecution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on tea
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and their groups of separatist transcendentalists across Europe are often a theme in these communal narratives. Recently retired to a safety in community of meditating Fairfield, Iowa a meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept their practice of meditation secret to avoid persecution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement. An irony now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there today. This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in Fairfield too. This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield as a transcendental meditationist. Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so great in Fairfield. And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and across time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and these groups of separatist transcendentalists are an often theme in their narrative. Recently retired to the meditating Fairfield community a meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept their practice of mediation secret to avoid persecution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement. An irony now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there today. This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in Fairfield too. This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield as a transcendental meditationist. Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so great in Fairfield. And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and across time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that wha
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell victim to persecution for associating with ™. Directly persecuted by school superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement. An irony now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there today. This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in Fairfield too. This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield as a transcendental meditationist. Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so great in Fairfield. And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and across time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms — this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong to the rank of devoutly religious men.” -Albert Einstein ---In FairfieldLi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists, persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups across Europe and time as they formed. As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious formality throughout Europe. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms — this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong to the rank of devoutly religious men.” -Albert Einstein ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separatism. The historical ‘separating’ of spiritual mystics from the creedal orthodoxy of institutional ‘churches’ (Catholic, Lutheran, or Anglican) evidently is also contemporary. In the early 1970’s as a ™ teacher I was able to visit and ‘check’ the meditations of Cistercian trappist monks in Spencer, Mass who after having studied the spiritual experience of the ‘desert mystics’ and so many others of the early Christian era found in themselves a lacking in spiritual depth of experience where they then reached out for methodology outside their own confines of practice. These Spencer, Mass Trappist monks were earnest, scholarly and dedicated spiritual seekers who set about finding better method than what they had in their order. (At one point one of these monks exclaimed, “Thank God for Vatican II!”). Of course Thomas Merton, also a Cistercian in the 1940’s, 50’s and 60’s, had done the same thing a generation before in his visiting with Buddhism or Eastern practices and writing about his experience. The Spencer, Mass. monks proceeded then from their experience in learning to meditate with ™ to abstract instruction from the ™practice and share with others what they subsequently re-branded as “Centering Prayer”, a meditative technique for lay people with features taken from ™. Centering Prayer now is widely taught as church adult education classes taught and supported by these monks in courses with video and lectures as a transcendent meditative practice for lay Catholic religious people. In a type of movement Centering Prayer now has also crossed over as progressive spiritual practice methodology to Protestant churches. A couple years ago I visited the Abbey of Gethsemani in Kentucky where I found the legacy of Thomas Merton supporting a thriving monastic community serving as a Merton pilgrimage site, with a modern museum and a bookstore doing active business vending in so many books by and about Thomas Merton. By contrast a few weeks ago I visited New Mallory Abbey near Dubuque, Iowa. In the 1980’s I had opportunity to visit and stay at New Mallory in their guest house quite a lot. I was excited recently to be able to return and visit back there and also see their bookstore. In their bookstore surprisingly I fo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Separating the heterodox and heretical.. A Christian statement of belief, The Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 ..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian propositions were added.[15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream branches[citation needed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now consider Arianism to be heterodox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms — this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong to the rank of devoutly religious men.” -Albert Einstein ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separatism. The historical ‘separating’ of spiritual mystics from the creedal orthodoxy of institutional ‘churches’ (Catholic, Lutheran, or Anglican) evidently is also contemporary. In the early 1970’s as a ™ teacher I was able to visit and ‘check’ the meditations of Cistercian trappist monks in Spencer, Mass who after having studied the spiritual experience of the ‘desert mystics’ and so many others of the early Christian era found in themselves a lacking in spiritual depth of experience where they then reached out for methodology outside their own confines of practice. These Spencer, Mass Trappist monks were earnest, scholarly and dedicated spiritual seekers who set about finding better method than what they had in their order. (At one point one of these monks exclaimed, “Thank God for Vatican II!”). Of course Thomas Merton, also a Cistercian in the 1940’s, 50’s and 60’s, had done the same thing a generation before in his visiting with Buddhism or Eastern practices and writing about his experience. The Spencer, Mass. monks proceeded then from their experience in learning to meditate with ™ to abstract instruction from the ™practice and share with others what they subsequently re-branded as “Centering Prayer”, a meditative technique for lay people with features taken from ™. Centering Prayer now is widely taught as church adult education classes taught and supported by these monks in courses with video and lectures as a transcendent meditative practice for lay Catholic religious people. In a type of movement Centering Prayer now has also crossed over as progressive spiritual practice methodology to Protestant churches. A couple years ago I visited the Abbey of Gethsemani in Kentucky where I found the legacy of Thomas Merton supporting a thriving monastic community serving as a Merton pilgrimage site, with a modern museum and a bookstore doing active business vending in so many books by and about Thomas Merton. By contrast a few weeks ago I visited New Mallory Abbey near Dubuque, Iowa. In the 1980’s I had opportunity to visit and stay at New Mallory in their guest house quite a lot. I was excited recently to be able to return and visit back there and also see their bookstore. In their bookstore surprisingly I found not a book on Centering Prayer or Thomas Merton, by contrast. A little puzzled after this visit there to New Mallory I asked around about this seeming ‘edit’ and obvious blank and was told that some in the Church feel those teachings are heretical to the Holy Father Church. Even within the Church today? Evidently dangerous for being out of control (unorthodox) the mystics in cultivated spiritual experience and by their critique in transcendentalism are still ‘separated’ from the orthodox. “They
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
“The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull faculties can comprehend only in their most primitive forms — this knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I belong to the rank of devoutly religious men.” -Albert Einstein ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Separatism. The historical ‘separating’ of spiritual mystics from the creedal orthodoxy of institutional ‘churches’ (Catholic, Lutheran, or Anglican) evidently is also contemporary. In the early 1970’s as a ™ teacher I was able to visit and ‘check’ the meditations of Cistercian trappist monks in Spencer, Mass who after having studied the spiritual experience of the ‘desert mystics’ and so many others of the early Christian era found in themselves a lacking in spiritual depth of experience where they then reached out for methodology outside their own confines of practice. These Spencer, Mass Trappist monks were earnest, scholarly and dedicated spiritual seekers who set about finding better method than what they had in their order. (At one point one of these monks exclaimed, “Thank God for Vatican II!”). Of course Thomas Merton, also a Cistercian in the 1940’s, 50’s and 60’s, had done the same thing a generation before in his visiting with Buddhism or Eastern practices and writing about his experience. The Spencer, Mass. monks proceeded then from their experience in learning to meditate with ™ to abstract instruction from the ™practice and share with others what they subsequently re-branded as “Centering Prayer”, a meditative technique for lay people with features taken from ™. Centering Prayer now is widely taught as church adult education classes taught and supported by these monks in courses with video and lectures as a transcendent meditative practice for lay Catholic religious people. In a type of movement Centering Prayer now has also crossed over as progressive spiritual practice methodology to Protestant churches. A couple years ago I visited the Abbey of Gethsemani in Kentucky where I found the legacy of Thomas Merton supporting a thriving monastic community serving as a Merton pilgrimage site, with a modern museum and a bookstore doing active business vending in so many books by and about Thomas Merton. By contrast a few weeks ago I visited New Mallory Abbey near Dubuque, Iowa. In the 1980’s I had opportunity to visit and stay at New Mallory in their guest house quite a lot. I was excited recently to be able to return and visit back there and also see their bookstore. In their bookstore surprisingly I found not a book on Centering Prayer or Thomas Merton, by contrast. A little puzzled after this visit there to New Mallory I asked around about this seeming ‘edit’ and obvious blank and was told that some in the Church feel those teachings are heretical to the Holy Father Church. Even within the Church today? Evidently dangerous for being out of control (unorthodox) the mystics in cultivated spiritual experience and by their critique in transcendentalism are still ‘separated’ from the orthodox. “They who believe their practice is best are devotees They who believe their technique is the only are zealots.” -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It seems that every generation or so in European history a mystic in experience and a satsanga would rise up in contrast to the form of religious institutions of the day. The nature of the spiritual experience in transcendentalism places transcendentalists in critique of religious materialism. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Throughout these narratives below, in cycle a mystic shares their transcendentalist experience at living-room satsanga-like meetings, a group organization may form for facilitating meetings ‘separate’ from the churches, the separate movement gets discovered by institutional religionists and in reaction the persecution begins in fear for the critique being given. History repeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I. Mysticism. Contextualizing a where we have come from as Transcendentalists this monograph on 'mysticism' published in the 19th Century takes an inter-generational line of 'separatist' teachers and satsanga and lights it up with some detail. Starting with a contextualization defining of 'mysticism' as we might know it in experience the first 30 pages of the monograph are a fair accounting fleshed out of an arc of spiritual 'separatist' movements in the West, connecting the dots of luminaries. Look for part !, Mysticism.. Goog
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Separatism. The historical ‘separating’ of spiritual mystics from the creedal orthodoxy of institutional ‘churches’ (Catholic, Lutheran, or Anglican) evidently is also contemporary. In the early 1970’s as a ™ teacher I was able to visit and ‘check’ the meditations of Cistercian trappist monks in Spencer, Mass who after having studied the spiritual experience of the ‘desert mystics’ and so many others of the early Christian era found in themselves a lacking in spiritual depth of experience where they then reached out for methodology outside their own confines of practice. These Spencer, Mass Trappist monks were earnest, scholarly and dedicated spiritual seekers who set about finding better method than what they had in their order. (At one point one of these monks exclaimed, “Thank God for Vatican II!”). Of course Thomas Merton, also a Cistercian in the 1940’s, 50’s and 60’s, had done the same thing a generation before in his visiting with Buddhism or Eastern practices and writing about his experience. The Spencer, Mass. monks proceeded then from their experience in learning to meditate with ™ to abstract instruction from the ™practice and share with others what they subsequently re-branded as “Centering Prayer”, a meditative technique for lay people with features taken from ™. Centering Prayer now is widely taught as church adult education classes taught and supported by these monks in courses with video and lectures as a transcendent meditative practice for lay Catholic religious people. In a type of movement Centering Prayer now has also crossed over as progressive spiritual practice methodology to Protestant churches. A couple years ago I visited the Abbey of Gethsemani in Kentucky where I found the legacy of Thomas Merton supporting a thriving monastic community serving as a Merton pilgrimage site, with a modern museum and a bookstore doing active business vending in so many books by and about Thomas Merton. By contrast a few weeks ago I visited New Mallory Abbey near Dubuque, Iowa. In the 1980’s I had opportunity to visit and stay at New Mallory in their guest house quite a lot. I was excited recently to be able to return and visit back there and also see their bookstore. In their bookstore surprisingly I found not a book on Centering Prayer or Thomas Merton, by contrast. A little puzzled after this visit there to New Mallory I asked around about this seeming ‘edit’ and obvious blank and was told that some in the Church feel those teachings are heretical to the Holy Father Church. Even within the Church today? Evidently dangerous for being out of control (unorthodox) the mystics in cultivated spiritual experience and by their critique in transcendentalism are still ‘separated’ from the orthodox. “They who believe their practice is best are devotees They who believe their technique is the only are zealots.” -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It seems that every generation or so in European history a mystic in experience and a satsanga would rise up in contrast to the form of religious institutions of the day. The nature of the spiritual experience in transcendentalism places transcendentalists in critique of religious materialism. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Throughout these narratives below, in cycle a mystic shares their transcendentalist experience at living-room satsanga-like meetings, a group organization may form for facilitating meetings ‘separate’ from the churches, the separate movement gets discovered by institutional religionists and in reaction the persecution begins in fear for the critique being given. History repeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I. Mysticism. Contextualizing a where we have come from as Transcendentalists this monograph on 'mysticism' published in the 19th Century takes an inter-generational line of 'separatist' teachers and satsanga and lights it up with some detail. Starting with a contextualization defining of 'mysticism' as we might know it in experience the first 30 pages of the monograph are a fair accounting fleshed out of an arc of spiritual 'separatist' movements in the West, connecting the dots of luminaries. Look for part !, Mysticism.. Google Book: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false This monograph goes well along with the paper linked below of Northern European Transcendentalist satsanga that is further back in this thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
‘Separatists’. This historical ‘separating’ of spiritual mystics from the creedal orthodoxy of institutional ‘churches’ (Catholic, Lutheran, or Anglican) evidently is also contemporary. In the early 1970’s as a ™ teacher I was able to visit and ‘check’ the meditations of Cistercian trappist monks in Spencer, Mass who after having studied the spiritual experience of the ‘desert mystics’ and so many others of the early Christian era found in themselves a lacking in spiritual depth of experience that they then reached out for methodology outside their own confines of practice. These Spencer, Mass Trappist monks were earnest, scholarly and dedicated spiritual seekers who set about finding better method than what they had in their order. (At one point, one of these monks exclaimed, “Thank God for Vatican II!”). Of course Thomas Merton, also a Cistercian, in the 1940’s, 50’s and 60’s, had done the same thing a generation before in his visiting with Buddhism or Eastern practices and writing about his experience. The Spencer, Mass. monks proceeding then from their experience in learning to meditate with ™ to abstract instruction from the ™practice and share what they subsequently re-branded as “Centering Prayer”, a meditative technique for lay people with features taken from ™. Centering Prayer now is widely taught as church adult education classes taught and supported by these monks in courses with video and lectures as a transcendent meditative practice for lay Catholic religious people. In a type of movement Centering Prayer now has also crossed over as progressive spiritual practice methodology in Protestant churches. A couple years ago I visited the Abbey of Gethsemani in Kentucky where I found the legacy of Thomas Merton supporting a thriving monastic community serving as a Merton pilgrimage site, a modern museum and a bookstore doing active business vending in so many books by and about Thomas Merton. By contrast a few weeks ago I visited New Mallory Abbey near Dubuque, Iowa. In the 1980’s I had opportunity to visit and stay at New Mallory in their guest house quite a lot. I was excited recently to return and visit back there and also see their bookstore. In their bookstore surprisingly I found not a book on Centering Prayer or Thomas Merton, by contrast. A little puzzled after this visit there to New Mallory I asked around about this seeming ‘edit’ and obvious blank and was told that some in the Church feel those teachings are heretical to the Holy Father Church. Even within the Church today? Evidently dangerous for being out of control (unorthodox) the mystics in cultivated spiritual experience and by their critique in transcendentalism are still ‘separated’ from the orthodox. “They who believe their practice is best are devotees They who believe their technique is the only are zealots.” -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It seems that every generation or so in European history a mystic in experience and a satsanga would rise up in contrast to the form of religious institutions of the day. The nature of the spiritual experience in transcendentalism places transcendentalists in critique of religious materialism. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Throughout these narratives below, in cycle a mystic shares their transcendentalist experience at living-room satsanga-like meetings, a group organization may form for facilitating meetings ‘separate’ from the churches, the separate movement gets discovered by institutional religionists and in reaction the persecution begins in fear for the critique being given. History repeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I. Mysticism. Contextualizing a where we have come from as Transcendentalists this monograph on 'mysticism' published in the 19th Century takes an inter-generational line of 'separatist' teachers and satsanga and lights it up with some detail. Starting with a contextualization defining of 'mysticism' as we might know it in experience the first 30 pages of the monograph are a fair accounting fleshed out of an arc of spiritual 'separatist' movements in the West, connecting the dots of luminaries. Look for part !, Mysticism.. Google Book: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false This monograph goes well along with the paper linked below of Northern European Transcendentalist satsanga that is further back in this thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Science.. means un
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
It seems that every generation or so in European history a mystic in experience and a satsanga would rise up in contrast to the form of religious institutions of the day. The nature of the spiritual experience in transcendentalism places transcendentalists in critique of religious materialism. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Throughout these narratives below, in cycle a mystic shares their transcendentalist experience at living-room satsanga-like meetings, a group organization may form for facilitating meetings ‘separate’ from the churches, the separate movement gets discovered by institutional religionists and in reaction the persecution begins in fear for the critique being given. History repeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I. Mysticism. Contextualizing a where we have come from as Transcendentalists this monograph on 'mysticism' published in the 19th Century takes an inter-generational line of 'separatist' teachers and satsanga and lights it up with some detail. Starting with a contextualization defining of 'mysticism' as we might know it in experience the first 30 pages of the monograph are a fair accounting fleshed out of an arc of spiritual 'separatist' movements in the West, connecting the dots of luminaries. Look for part !, Mysticism.. Google Book: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false This monograph goes well along with the paper linked below of Northern European Transcendentalist satsanga that is further back in this thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Science.. means unresting endeavor and continually progressing development toward an aim which the poetic intuition may apprehend, but which the intellect can never fully grasp. -Max Planck On the Way.. “The Higgs particle validates that there is this field that exists everywhere in the universe that allows us to exist. That field exists. It sounds religious but this is different than religion , this field exists and had to be discovered, and that is what the large hadron collider was about. “The Greatest Story Ever Told, So Far” -Lawrence Krauss “..not just a great story of human ingenuity, but the greatest.” # Science Friday interview.. https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ “The Tao Is” (21st Century) Transcendentalism: “Maharishi explains that pure consciousness has a field-like character and is a universal field at the basis of everyone’s thought and behavior. When a sufficient number of individuals are experiencing pure consciousness during group practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi program, the field of pure consciousness is enlivened in the entire population. This field effect positively influences the quality of consciousness in the individuals in society in much the same direction as that experienced by those practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique,” said lead author MUM Professor Dr. Kenneth Cavanaugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From Historic German Transcendentalism, a sequence.. ..We can now offer an expanded definition of Transcendentalism: It derives from the “transcendental” philosophy of Immanuel Kant; its proponents emphasized the divine in nature, the value of the individual and of human intuition, and a spiritual reality that “transcends” sensory experience, while also providing a better guide for life than purely empirical or logical reasoning. The term refers to a cluster of concepts set forth by a number of individuals rather than a formal philosophy. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement Our initial working definition of transcendentalism, however, will stress a divine force in each individual, a force that is also linked to nature and has the power to transform lives, as well as social institutions. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement 20th Century Fairfield, Iowa, Radical American Transcendentalism: The Transcendental Meditationist! The Unified Field Akbar! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From reading their histories evidently practicing transcendentalists would move around Europe to the protection of more progressive aristocrats. That safety could vary by locality and through time. A challenge in this is that natural mortality [turnover) could quickly change the climate o
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Throughout these narratives below, in cycle a mystic shares their transcendentalist experience at living-room satsanga-like meetings, a group organization may form for facilitating meetings ‘separate’ from the churches, the separate movement gets discovered by institutional religionists and in reaction the persecution begins in fear for the critique being given. History repeat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I. Mysticism. Contextualizing a where we have come from as Transcendentalists this monograph on 'mysticism' published in the 19th Century takes an inter-generational line of 'separatist' teachers and satsanga and lights it up with some detail. Starting with a contextualization defining of 'mysticism' as we might know it in experience the first 30 pages of the monograph are a fair accounting fleshed out of an arc of spiritual 'separatist' movements in the West, connecting the dots of luminaries. Look for part !, Mysticism.. Google Book: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false This monograph goes well along with the paper linked below of Northern European Transcendentalist satsanga that is further back in this thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Science.. means unresting endeavor and continually progressing development toward an aim which the poetic intuition may apprehend, but which the intellect can never fully grasp. -Max Planck On the Way.. “The Higgs particle validates that there is this field that exists everywhere in the universe that allows us to exist. That field exists. It sounds religious but this is different than religion , this field exists and had to be discovered, and that is what the large hadron collider was about. “The Greatest Story Ever Told, So Far” -Lawrence Krauss “..not just a great story of human ingenuity, but the greatest.” # Science Friday interview.. https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ “The Tao Is” (21st Century) Transcendentalism: “Maharishi explains that pure consciousness has a field-like character and is a universal field at the basis of everyone’s thought and behavior. When a sufficient number of individuals are experiencing pure consciousness during group practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi program, the field of pure consciousness is enlivened in the entire population. This field effect positively influences the quality of consciousness in the individuals in society in much the same direction as that experienced by those practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique,” said lead author MUM Professor Dr. Kenneth Cavanaugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From Historic German Transcendentalism, a sequence.. ..We can now offer an expanded definition of Transcendentalism: It derives from the “transcendental” philosophy of Immanuel Kant; its proponents emphasized the divine in nature, the value of the individual and of human intuition, and a spiritual reality that “transcends” sensory experience, while also providing a better guide for life than purely empirical or logical reasoning. The term refers to a cluster of concepts set forth by a number of individuals rather than a formal philosophy. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement Our initial working definition of transcendentalism, however, will stress a divine force in each individual, a force that is also linked to nature and has the power to transform lives, as well as social institutions. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement 20th Century Fairfield, Iowa, Radical American Transcendentalism: The Transcendental Meditationist! The Unified Field Akbar! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From reading their histories evidently practicing transcendentalists would move around Europe to the protection of more progressive aristocrats. That safety could vary by locality and through time. A challenge in this is that natural mortality [turnover) could quickly change the climate of a region’s leadership with areas quickly shifting between rigidities of the formality of the Roman Church or Protestant churches. Current edition of Journal of Military History Quarterly has published a reproduction of a hand drawn hand colored map that depicts the sub-principalities of the Austro-German parts of Europe of the 1840’s. B
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
I. Mysticism. Contextualizing a where we have come from as Transcendentalists this monograph on 'mysticism' published in the 19th Century takes an inter-generational line of 'separatist' teachers and satsanga and lights it up with some detail. Starting with a contextualization defining of 'mysticism' as we might know it in experience the first 30 pages of the monograph are a fair accounting fleshed out of an arc of spiritual 'separatist' movements in the West, connecting the dots of luminaries. Look for part !, Mysticism.. Google Book: https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=Y6naMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=History+of+the+Amana+Society,&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2-aSUs77TAhVn_4MKHUlHBnAQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=History%20of%20the%20Amana%20Society%2C&f=false This monograph goes well along with the paper linked below of Northern European Transcendentalist satsanga that is further back in this thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Science.. means unresting endeavor and continually progressing development toward an aim which the poetic intuition may apprehend, but which the intellect can never fully grasp. -Max Planck On the Way.. “The Higgs particle validates that there is this field that exists everywhere in the universe that allows us to exist. That field exists. It sounds religious but this is different than religion , this field exists and had to be discovered, and that is what the large hadron collider was about. “The Greatest Story Ever Told, So Far” -Lawrence Krauss “..not just a great story of human ingenuity, but the greatest.” # Science Friday interview.. https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ “The Tao Is” (21st Century) Transcendentalism: “Maharishi explains that pure consciousness has a field-like character and is a universal field at the basis of everyone’s thought and behavior. When a sufficient number of individuals are experiencing pure consciousness during group practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi program, the field of pure consciousness is enlivened in the entire population. This field effect positively influences the quality of consciousness in the individuals in society in much the same direction as that experienced by those practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique,” said lead author MUM Professor Dr. Kenneth Cavanaugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From Historic German Transcendentalism, a sequence.. ..We can now offer an expanded definition of Transcendentalism: It derives from the “transcendental” philosophy of Immanuel Kant; its proponents emphasized the divine in nature, the value of the individual and of human intuition, and a spiritual reality that “transcends” sensory experience, while also providing a better guide for life than purely empirical or logical reasoning. The term refers to a cluster of concepts set forth by a number of individuals rather than a formal philosophy. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement Our initial working definition of transcendentalism, however, will stress a divine force in each individual, a force that is also linked to nature and has the power to transform lives, as well as social institutions. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement 20th Century Fairfield, Iowa, Radical American Transcendentalism: The Transcendental Meditationist! The Unified Field Akbar! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From reading their histories evidently practicing transcendentalists would move around Europe to the protection of more progressive aristocrats. That safety could vary by locality and through time. A challenge in this is that natural mortality [turnover) could quickly change the climate of a region’s leadership with areas quickly shifting between rigidities of the formality of the Roman Church or Protestant churches. Current edition of Journal of Military History Quarterly has published a reproduction of a hand drawn hand colored map that depicts the sub-principalities of the Austro-German parts of Europe of the 1840’s. By the 1840’s the commotion of the ‘social question’ from the industrial technological revolution [dislocation] was well underway with social strife and civil war breaking out between localities. At that point a lot of transcendentalist leaning folks fled Europe to the safety of America. I have grandparents on both sides coming in that time frame from transcendentalist meditationist groups [satsang communities], one side of the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Science.. means unresting endeavor and continually progressing development toward an aim which the poetic intuition may apprehend, but which the intellect can never fully grasp. -Max Planck On the Way.. “The Higgs particle validates that there is this field that exists everywhere in the universe that allows us to exist. That field exists. It sounds religious but this is different than religion , this field exists and had to be discovered, and that is what the large hadron collider was about. “The Greatest Story Ever Told, So Far” -Lawrence Krauss “..not just a great story of human ingenuity, but the greatest.” # Science Friday interview.. https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/why-are-we-here-physics-has-answers/ “The Tao Is” (21st Century) Transcendentalism: “Maharishi explains that pure consciousness has a field-like character and is a universal field at the basis of everyone’s thought and behavior. When a sufficient number of individuals are experiencing pure consciousness during group practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi program, the field of pure consciousness is enlivened in the entire population. This field effect positively influences the quality of consciousness in the individuals in society in much the same direction as that experienced by those practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique,” said lead author MUM Professor Dr. Kenneth Cavanaugh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From Historic German Transcendentalism, a sequence.. ..We can now offer an expanded definition of Transcendentalism: It derives from the “transcendental” philosophy of Immanuel Kant; its proponents emphasized the divine in nature, the value of the individual and of human intuition, and a spiritual reality that “transcends” sensory experience, while also providing a better guide for life than purely empirical or logical reasoning. The term refers to a cluster of concepts set forth by a number of individuals rather than a formal philosophy. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement Our initial working definition of transcendentalism, however, will stress a divine force in each individual, a force that is also linked to nature and has the power to transform lives, as well as social institutions. -Professor Ashton Nichols, Emerson, Thoreau, and the Transcendentalist Movement 20th Century Fairfield, Iowa, Radical American Transcendentalism: The Unified Field Akbar! The Transcendental Meditationist! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From reading their histories evidently practicing transcendentalists would move around Europe to the protection of more progressive aristocrats. That safety could vary by locality and through time. A challenge in this is that natural mortality [turnover) could quickly change the climate of a region’s leadership with areas quickly shifting between rigidities of the formality of the Roman Church or Protestant churches. Current edition of Journal of Military History Quarterly has published a reproduction of a hand drawn hand colored map that depicts the sub-principalities of the Austro-German parts of Europe of the 1840’s. By the 1840’s the commotion of the ‘social question’ from the industrial technological revolution [dislocation] was well underway with social strife and civil war breaking out between localities. At that point a lot of transcendentalist leaning folks fled Europe to the safety of America. I have grandparents on both sides coming in that time frame from transcendentalist meditationist groups [satsang communities], one side of the family from England and the other side from German spiritual ashram communities fleeing conscription into local armies within the ‘locality’ of civil wars that were raging throughout Europe then. A lot of spiritual peoples came then to America fleeing both social dislocation and religious persecutions of those times. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, evidently transcendentalism and transcendental meditationist practice goes way back. It seems that about every generation or so mystics by their own experience with it would satsang and teach a meditation. Often time meditationism as spiritual practice gets put under the label of Quietism. In time Quietists evidently were disperse across Europe giving critique to the ‘formalism’ of the established churches and religion. Their essays, pamphlets and books were traded across Europe through generations of ‘separatists’, as they are also often called. Spiritual people in Europe, meditationists, would flow to where there was changing safety within satsang and ashram villages as they could find cover. Eventually as these lines immigrated to America this spirituality is much part of a thread in
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
Raja William, this of yours here is inspired and honorable sentiment in consideration of everything we do know by the science and our experience. Collectively, together in corporate practice, deploy in something like Spartan meditation Villages filling the breach. Armed simply with group meditation let us all look to a lasting Peace, not the last stand. Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If anyone wants to help me create a Brahmasthan in such a place as mention in this post, rather than a vacation resort please contact me, serious inquires only.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
True, (I believe) as a metaphysical proposition, but there's no scientific proof for the assertion. Interior revelation is sufficient for me, but an attempt by the illustrious MUM Prof's to place such phenomena within the category of modern science is a futile venture and dishonest. In short, there's no scientific validation for the "field" in question. If there is, let's see the reference outside of MUM, and the specs on the instrument used to measure the field. IMy recommendation to the MUM Profs: give it up, Dude, you're barking up the wrong tree and wasting your time. Just call it the proper name: Shakti, and admit that Shakti is something that we can experience, but not prove to others. .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Re Separatists, In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism
If anyone wants to help me create a Brahmasthan in such a place as mention in this post, rather than a vacation resort please contact me, serious inquires only.
