[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
Someone will have to explain sea level to me. I certainly understand when lakes or rivers within enclosed land can rise or fall. But bodies of water, such as the topic here, connected to the oceans of the world are all at sea level, no? Certainly, tides may rise up or down and cover or uncover land...but how can any of this be permanent by rising sea levels when, as I understand it, the entire connected oceans of the world would have to rise simultaneously? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: India's Sacred Sagar Island is Shrinking Away by Philip Reeves http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101062 - February 15, 2010 [Pilgrims take a holy dip at a lagoon on Sagar Island] Pilgrims take a holy dip at a lagoon on the occasion of Makar Sankranti at Gangasagar on Sagar Island, the confluence of the Ganges River and Bay of Bengal, on Jan. 14. A scientist says the sacred island has shrunk by nearly 10 square miles in the past 40 years, displacing thousands of people. Varun Pyke has come to the edge of the Indian island where he has spent all 50 years of his life, to recount the story of the riches that he has now lost. He gloomily jabs a finger out toward the water, pointing well beyond the gray waves lapping on the shores of the long, wide beach on which he is standing. A mile or two out, there lies what used to be his farm, explains Pyke, a wiry man in a vest and wraparound lunghi. He says he had 5 acres, all now part of the seabed. Rising water levels compelled Pyke to move inland; now he has only 2 acres to farm, barely enough to survive. Pyke lives on Sagar Island, off the east coast of India. It is part of the Sundarbans, a giant low-lying archipelago that straddles India and Bangladesh, fanning out into the Bay of Bengal. More than 4 million people live on the Indian side. The delta is wrapped in the world's largest block of mangrove forest and is the habitat of the endangered royal Bengal tiger, which also is threatened by the rising waters. Standing next to Pyke is a neighbor from his village, a small, brightly clad, middle-aged woman called Durga Pal. She says the water has also swallowed up most of her family's land. Like Pyke, she is struggling to get by on a small patch of land, near the beach. Our grandparents and our parents all used to stay here, she said. We had a lot of wealth and a lot of land before this. But now we are left with very little land and very little money to survive on. She is surrounded by the rubble of a giant brick wall. Large broken lumps of brickwork are scattered along the beach in a straight line, as far as the eye can see. This is the remains of a barrier built by the authorities. Villagers say a cyclone ripped down the wall five years ago. Pal and Pyke believe that if the wall is not replaced, they will both soon lose all of their remaining land. Pyke does not sound optimistic. Saltwater has flooded his home several times recently. This year, all my land will be gone because the barrier is gone, Pyke said. He will likely be forced to turn to low-paid laboring. [In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island.] Enlarge Bikas Das/AP In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island, site of annual religious festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of visitors. The 20-mile-long island is shrinking at an accelerating pace. [In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island.] Bikas Das/AP In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island, site of annual religious festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of visitors. The 20-mile-long island is shrinking at an accelerating pace. The perimeter of the giant scattering of islands, mudflats and swampy jungle that make up the Sunderbans have been shifting around for centuries, partly because of silt and subsidence. But scientists and locals say the rise in water levels began accelerating a few years ago. Since 2000, the trend is actually steeper, upwards, steeper, said Pranabes Sanyal of India's Coastal Zone Management Authority. Day by day, the deterioration is going on. Day by day, more salinization is going on. Sagar Island is less than 20 miles long. Sanyal estimates that in the past 40 years, its size has shrunk by nearly 10 square miles. Thousands of people have been displaced. Oceanography professor Sugata Hazra agrees: For the last 20 to 30 years, we are getting more cyclones and we are losing land to the sea. This is the reality. Hazra is worried by a recent surge in skepticism about climate change, fueled by widely publicized mistakes made by the U.N.'s climate change panel, including the prediction that the Himalayan glaciers could be gone in 25 years. Hazra concedes that climate change scientists make mistakes and should
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
The oceanographer quotes in the piece says: ...we are losing land to the sea. Well, which is it? A rising sea of land giving way and crumbling into the sea? Again, if it is a rising sea, would it not have to rise along with sea level and all the oceans of the world would be rising simultaneously? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: India's Sacred Sagar Island is Shrinking Away by Philip Reeves http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=2101062 - February 15, 2010 [Pilgrims take a holy dip at a lagoon on Sagar Island] Pilgrims take a holy dip at a lagoon on the occasion of Makar Sankranti at Gangasagar on Sagar Island, the confluence of the Ganges River and Bay of Bengal, on Jan. 14. A scientist says the sacred island has shrunk by nearly 10 square miles in the past 40 years, displacing thousands of people. Varun Pyke has come to the edge of the Indian island where he has spent all 50 years of his life, to recount the story of the riches that he has now lost. He gloomily jabs a finger out toward the water, pointing well beyond the gray waves lapping on the shores of the long, wide beach on which he is standing. A mile or two out, there lies what used to be his farm, explains Pyke, a wiry man in a vest and wraparound lunghi. He says he had 5 acres, all now part of the seabed. Rising water levels compelled Pyke to move inland; now he has only 2 acres to farm, barely enough to survive. Pyke lives on Sagar Island, off the east coast of India. It is part of the Sundarbans, a giant low-lying archipelago that straddles India and Bangladesh, fanning out into the Bay of Bengal. More than 4 million people live on the Indian side. The delta is wrapped in the world's largest block of mangrove forest and is the habitat of the endangered royal Bengal tiger, which also is threatened by the rising waters. Standing next to Pyke is a neighbor from his village, a small, brightly clad, middle-aged woman called Durga Pal. She says the water has also swallowed up most of her family's land. Like Pyke, she is struggling to get by on a small patch of land, near the beach. Our grandparents and our parents all used to stay here, she said. We had a lot of wealth and a lot of land before this. But now we are left with very little land and very little money to survive on. She is surrounded by the rubble of a giant brick wall. Large broken lumps of brickwork are scattered along the beach in a straight line, as far as the eye can see. This is the remains of a barrier built by the authorities. Villagers say a cyclone ripped down the wall five years ago. Pal and Pyke believe that if the wall is not replaced, they will both soon lose all of their remaining land. Pyke does not sound optimistic. Saltwater has flooded his home several times recently. This year, all my land will be gone because the barrier is gone, Pyke said. He will likely be forced to turn to low-paid laboring. [In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island.] Enlarge Bikas Das/AP In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island, site of annual religious festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of visitors. The 20-mile-long island is shrinking at an accelerating pace. [In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island.] Bikas Das/AP In this file photo from Jan. 14, 2008, Hindu devotees wade on Sagar Island, site of annual religious festivals that draw hundreds of thousands of visitors. The 20-mile-long island is shrinking at an accelerating pace. The perimeter of the giant scattering of islands, mudflats and swampy jungle that make up the Sunderbans have been shifting around for centuries, partly because of silt and subsidence. But scientists and locals say the rise in water levels began accelerating a few years ago. Since 2000, the trend is actually steeper, upwards, steeper, said Pranabes Sanyal of India's Coastal Zone Management Authority. Day by day, the deterioration is going on. Day by day, more salinization is going on. Sagar Island is less than 20 miles long. Sanyal estimates that in the past 40 years, its size has shrunk by nearly 10 square miles. Thousands of people have been displaced. Oceanography professor Sugata Hazra agrees: For the last 20 to 30 years, we are getting more cyclones and we are losing land to the sea. This is the reality. Hazra is worried by a recent surge in skepticism about climate change, fueled by widely publicized mistakes made by the U.N.'s climate change panel, including the prediction that the Himalayan glaciers could be gone in 25 years. Hazra concedes that climate change scientists make mistakes and should correct them. But he adds: If they lose the battle to this lobby who are trying to discredit the science of climate change, who are trying to defame the scientists, the
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island Someone will have to explain sea level to me. I certainly understand when lakes or rivers within enclosed land can rise or fall. But bodies of water, such as the topic here, connected to the oceans of the world are all at sea level, no? Certainly, tides may rise up or down and cover or uncover land...but how can any of this be permanent by rising sea levels when, as I understand it, the entire connected oceans of the world would have to rise simultaneously? That's exactly what's happening, because melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica is adding to the amount of sea water, cause seas to rise. If they rise as it is predicted they might, coastal cities like New York will be inundated. Now it's just impacting low-lying islands.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island The oceanographer quotes in the piece says: ...we are losing land to the sea. Well, which is it? A rising sea of land giving way and crumbling into the sea? Again, if it is a rising sea, would it not have to rise along with sea level and all the oceans of the world would be rising simultaneously? That's what's happening Shempy-baby. The fact that you don't understand this basic point despite all your global warming denial shows how woefully uninformed or misinformed you are on the subject. Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise The sea is also rising due to thermal expansion, i.e., when water gets warmer, it expands.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island Someone will have to explain sea level to me. I certainly understand when lakes or rivers within enclosed land can rise or fall. But bodies of water, such as the topic here, connected to the oceans of the world are all at sea level, no? Certainly, tides may rise up or down and cover or uncover land...but how can any of this be permanent by rising sea levels when, as I understand it, the entire connected oceans of the world would have to rise simultaneously? That's exactly what's happening, because melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica is adding to the amount of sea water, cause seas to rise. If they rise as it is predicted they might, coastal cities like New York will be inundated. Now it's just impacting low-lying islands. Rick, Rick, Rick. That is NOT exactly what is happening because if it was, New York City 10,000 miles away from India would have the exact same rise as this island does.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island The oceanographer quotes in the piece says: ...we are losing land to the sea. Well, which is it? A rising sea of land giving way and crumbling into the sea? Again, if it is a rising sea, would it not have to rise along with sea level and all the oceans of the world would be rising simultaneously? That's what's happening Shempy-baby. The fact that you don't understand this basic point despite all your global warming denial shows how woefully uninformed or misinformed you are on the subject. Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise The sea is also rising due to thermal expansion, i.e., when water gets warmer, it expands. No, it's YOU who doesn't understand the concept of sea level. Every ocean is at sea level. If one interconnected body rises, all must rise. So if, as the article indicates, there is a rise due to rising sea level (as opposed to the eroding of the land of the island which would have nothing to do with rising sea level) then that would be experienced equally in NYC and LA to the rise on that island.
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On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:23 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island Someone will have to explain sea level to me. I certainly understand when lakes or rivers within enclosed land can rise or fall. But bodies of water, such as the topic here, connected to the oceans of the world are all at sea level, no? Certainly, tides may rise up or down and cover or uncover land...but how can any of this be permanent by rising sea levels when, as I understand it, the entire connected oceans of the world would have to rise simultaneously? That's exactly what's happening, because melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica is adding to the amount of sea water, cause seas to rise. If they rise as it is predicted they might, coastal cities like New York will be inundated. Now it's just impacting low-lying islands. Rick, Rick, Rick. That is NOT exactly what is happening because if it was, New York City 10,000 miles away from India would have the exact same rise as this island does. It is what's happening. Coastal flooding is an ongoing problem around the world. The east coast is having problems all over. I remember as a kid, the World Book encyclopedia our 1968 edition had a grayscale picture of Manhattan, skyscrapers shown to scale, shown after the icecaps had completely melted. They were all under water. But you had to know that already. Are you telling us Canadian schools and a consciousness-based education were that bad? Where'd you grow up, rural Yukon? http://boingboing.net/2009/09/04/what-the-world-will.html
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:28 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island The oceanographer quotes in the piece says: ...we are losing land to the sea. Well, which is it? A rising sea of land giving way and crumbling into the sea? Again, if it is a rising sea, would it not have to rise along with sea level and all the oceans of the world would be rising simultaneously? That's what's happening Shempy-baby. The fact that you don't understand this basic point despite all your global warming denial shows how woefully uninformed or misinformed you are on the subject. Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise The sea is also rising due to thermal expansion, i.e., when water gets warmer, it expands. No, it's YOU who doesn't understand the concept of sea level. Every ocean is at sea level. If one interconnected body rises, all must rise. So if, as the article indicates, there is a rise due to rising sea level (as opposed to the eroding of the land of the island which would have nothing to do with rising sea level) then that would be experienced equally in NYC and LA to the rise on that island. How many ways do I have to say it? See http://sos.noaa.gov/datasets/Ocean/sea_level.html. The sea level has been steadily rising since 1900 at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters per year. This means the entire ocean. It doesn't mean the land is sinking or eroding. It means the water is rising. It's happing in NYC and LA as much as in low-lying Pacific islands, but it's much more noticeable in those islands, because they're practically at sea level. It's due to melting glaciers and polar ice, as well as thermal expansion, all due to global warming.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:39 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:23 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island Someone will have to explain sea level to me. I certainly understand when lakes or rivers within enclosed land can rise or fall. But bodies of water, such as the topic here, connected to the oceans of the world are all at sea level, no? Certainly, tides may rise up or down and cover or uncover land...but how can any of this be permanent by rising sea levels when, as I understand it, the entire connected oceans of the world would have to rise simultaneously? That's exactly what's happening, because melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica is adding to the amount of sea water, cause seas to rise. If they rise as it is predicted they might, coastal cities like New York will be inundated. Now it's just impacting low-lying islands. Rick, Rick, Rick. That is NOT exactly what is happening because if it was, New York City 10,000 miles away from India would have the exact same rise as this island does. It is what's happening. Coastal flooding is an ongoing problem around the world. The east coast is having problems all over. I remember as a kid, the World Book encyclopedia our 1968 edition had a grayscale picture of Manhattan, skyscrapers shown to scale, shown after the icecaps had completely melted. They were all under water. But you had to know that already. Are you telling us Canadian schools and a consciousness-based education were that bad? Where'd you grow up, rural Yukon? If he had, he'd be convinced of global warming, because they're feeling the effects of it acutely.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:46 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island The oceanographer quotes in the piece says: ...we are losing land to the sea. Well, which is it? A rising sea of land giving way and crumbling into the sea? Again, if it is a rising sea, would it not have to rise along with sea level and all the oceans of the world would be rising simultaneously? That's what's happening Shempy-baby. The fact that you don't understand this basic point despite all your global warming denial shows how woefully uninformed or misinformed you are on the subject. Read up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_sea_level_rise The sea is also rising due to thermal expansion, i.e., when water gets warmer, it expands. No, it's YOU who doesn't understand the concept of sea level. Every ocean is at sea level. If one interconnected body rises, all must rise. So if, as the article indicates, there is a rise due to rising sea level (as opposed to the eroding of the land of the island which would have nothing to do with rising sea level) then that would be experienced equally in NYC and LA to the rise on that island. Nope. NASA: Uneven Global Sea-Level Rise Explained Fingerprints of melting ice caps point directly to global climate change and sea level rise Rates of sea level change over the last century vary widely from one geographic location to another even after these rates have been corrected for known effects. The question has always been, why? What is causing these significant variations? Jerry Mitrovica, University of Toronto geophysics professor, is lead author of a paper to appear in the Feb. 22 issue of Nature that claims to have discovered the answer. And it is an answer that has an important impact on the debate over global climate change. Mitrovica and his colleagues argue that scientists have not widely appreciated that melting from the Antarctic, for example, will have a distinctly different pattern or fingerprint in how it affects sea level than melting from Greenland or small mountain glaciers. It is these patterns that are causing the variation in the global sea level rise. We calculated these fingerprints using computer models and then showed that the observed record of sea level change displays the fingerprints, says Mitrovica. Sea level is rising, and based on our work and the analysis of sea level data, not only can we assess the total amount melting from the ice caps, but we can also tell where that meltwater is coming from. Mitrovica conducted this research with Mark Tamisiea, a University of Toronto post-doctoral fellow and second author on the paper, James Davis of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and Glenn Milne of the University of Durham. In the past, people have been puzzled by the significant variations in sea levels in different parts of the world, says Mitrovica. Like throwing water in a bathtub, many scientists assumed that if polar ice melting were contributing to sea level rise, it would present itself evenly and uniformly across the Earth's oceans. And that assumption, he says, is simply wrong. Mitrovica uses Greenland as an example. It was assumed that if the ice caps on Greenland were melting, all coastal locations would flood evenly. In fact, he continues, if the entire Greenland ice cap melted, then places relatively close by, like Britain and Newfoundland, would actually see sea levels fall. The reason is fairly simple: despite its small size, the Greenland ice sheet exerts a strong gravitational pull on the seas. As the polar sheet melts, it will exert less pull, resulting in lower not higher sea levels around Greenland. Of course, sea levels will rise on average, and as the meltwater moves away from Greenland it will create problems for countries in the Southern Hemisphere. In the same way, melting from the Antarctic will raise sea levels in the Northern Hemisphere, but not in places like Australia. To look for evidence of their ideas, the scientists re-examined the data from tide gauges that measure sea levels. The results startled even them. They found that they could fit nearly all the geographic variations in sea level that they saw in these tide gauges using the distinct sea level patterns they predicted for the melting of polar ice sheets. It is estimated that sea levels are rising, on average, by about 1.8 millimetres per year. We've really strengthened the link between today's sea level changes and ice melting and we've found a way of unraveling the details of this link. By doing that, we've also strengthened extrapolations being made for the future effect of climate
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On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Rick Archer wrote: If he had, he'd be convinced of global warming, because they're feeling the effects of it acutely. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_levels
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island
Well, it's not because of CO2 or other gases. Look at the following chart which shows a steady rise well before major emissions of CO2 occured: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png Plus, googling have sea levels risen? brings up a lot of contradictory stuff. By the way, wikipedia is known as a very pro-global warming site. If the best they have is the above linked-to chart, that's saying a lot...that there is pretty well NO evidence that global warming is causing it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:23 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ShempMcGurk Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:42 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rising seas threaten sacred Indian island Someone will have to explain sea level to me. I certainly understand when lakes or rivers within enclosed land can rise or fall. But bodies of water, such as the topic here, connected to the oceans of the world are all at sea level, no? Certainly, tides may rise up or down and cover or uncover land...but how can any of this be permanent by rising sea levels when, as I understand it, the entire connected oceans of the world would have to rise simultaneously? That's exactly what's happening, because melting ice in Greenland and Antarctica is adding to the amount of sea water, cause seas to rise. If they rise as it is predicted they might, coastal cities like New York will be inundated. Now it's just impacting low-lying islands. Rick, Rick, Rick. That is NOT exactly what is happening because if it was, New York City 10,000 miles away from India would have the exact same rise as this island does. It is what's happening. Coastal flooding is an ongoing problem around the world. The east coast is having problems all over. I remember as a kid, the World Book encyclopedia our 1968 edition had a grayscale picture of Manhattan, skyscrapers shown to scale, shown after the icecaps had completely melted. They were all under water. But you had to know that already. Are you telling us Canadian schools and a consciousness-based education were that bad? Where'd you grow up, rural Yukon? http://boingboing.net/2009/09/04/what-the-world-will.html
