an example? Thanks.
From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness
brings with it total honesty, doesn't mean that that is really the case. I
can conceive of situations
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Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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Sure. My point is that just because some theoretical state of consciousness
brings with it total honesty, doesn't mean that that is really the case. I
can conceive
was enlightened it was ok for him to write the mantras
down
From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
In TM theory, it isn't that mantras
myself lies.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
you have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most
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Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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you have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most
extremist statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense too. So I doubt any
careful observer cares much
From: sparaig LEnglish5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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In TM theory, it isn't that mantras are kept secret for the sake of a
secret,, but because the process
to tell myself lies.
From: srijau@... srijau@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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you have shown time and again here that you use any occasion
Michael Jackson:
I was a real TM true believer...
Yes, I hate the admin of my old school, and some
of the teachers, but I got out of them what I
needed and pretty much ignored the rest.
But, you don't make it clear if you were a student
or not and what degree you were pursuing.
I know
srijau:
you have shown time and again here that you
use any occasion to make the most extremist
statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense
too. So I doubt any careful observer cares
much anymore.
He seems to be kind of weird for someone who
claims to have got more than one bija mantra
Marshy was enlightened it was ok for him to write the
mantras down
From: sparaig LEnglish5@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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In TM
only from the point of view of one who is afraid of it (truth that is)
From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
You only see what you
how do you know what the Old Fraud did in his meditation?
From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Since MMY likely wasn't using those
.
From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
srijau:
you have shown time and again here that you
use any occasion to make the most
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Michael Jackson:
I was a real TM true believer...
Yes, I hate the admin of my old school, and some
of the teachers, but I got out of them what I
needed and pretty much ignored the rest.
But, you don't make it clear if you were
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his meditation practice, I
don't understand why you think this is relevant.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 04/21/2013 01:14 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Just got off the phone with one of my old TM friends in North Carolina - he
just finished reading the Secret of the Mantras - if what he told me was
accurate I don't see
gosh I missed the turning yourself in part! I thought he wanted all of us
executed.
From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
We all tell ourselves lies. Even fully enlightened people likely lie to
themselves, but since they allegedly no longer have an internal dialogue, they
can't catch their own lies because they appear to be intuitive truths.
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that is)
From: feste37 feste37@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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You only see what you are looking for. Painting yourself as a courageous
seeker
: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
It's nothing to do with fear. It's a matter of realizing that truth has many
sides to it. You have to look at the whole picture, which you are not doing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael
sparaig:
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his
meditation practice, I don't understand why you
think this is relevant.
The mantras MMY wrote down were probably English
transliterations; I doubt if MMY could write in
Sanskrit script.
the guy who wrote the books says that
Michael Jackson:
Jamie Vollmer was my initiator and I believe he
still live in Fairfield if you want my bona fides,
as to Kirk I don't remember anyone by that name
in kitchen services - I was there from August of
1985 - July of 1987.
He was the cook, you idiot! LoL!
And yes I am
of Marshy and the TMO is a very
seamy picture, and that is the truth.
From: feste37 feste37@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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It's nothing to do
of Marshy and the TMO is a very
seamy picture, and that is the truth.
From: feste37 feste37@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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It's nothing to do
of Marshy and the TMO is a very
seamy picture, and that is the truth.
From: feste37 feste37@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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It's nothing to do
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 6:11 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
In TM theory, it isn't that mantras are kept secret for the sake of a
secret,, but because the process of meditation and the process of speaking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
srijau:
you have shown time and again here that you
use any occasion to make the most extremist
statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense
too. So I doubt any careful observer cares
much anymore.
He
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Late breaking news on the matter:
(CNN) -- Nablusoss the senior meditator angrily condemned the alleged actions
of the former meditators -- the meditators suspected in the speaking their
mantras out loud -- and after
On 04/22/2013 08:02 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
sparaig:
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his
meditation practice, I don't understand why you
think this is relevant.
The mantras MMY wrote down were probably English
transliterations; I doubt if MMY could write in
Sanskrit
: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Oh gawd! I can see this is going to be a palms to eyes day on FFL.
Michael, you did not do TTC, correct? I don't think you've ever
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his meditation practice, I
don't understand why you think this is relevant.
L
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
the guy who wrote the books says
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Oh gawd! I can see this is going to be a palms to eyes day on FFL.
Michael, you did not do TTC, correct? I don't think you've ever claimed
to but you've probably got folks like me who did rolling on the floor
laughing. Out of respect I
: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
srijau:
you have shown time and again here
Michael Jackson:
Give it up, Richy, I got names, dates and events...
Nobody I know up there ever heard of a 'Michael Jackson'
being a 'baker', student, or anything else. Apparently
nobody on this list ever heard of Michael Jackson ever
even being in Fairfield. Go figure.
you have
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his
meditation practice, I don't understand why you
think this is relevant.
The mantras MMY wrote down were probably English
transliterations; I doubt if MMY could write in
Sanskrit script.
Bhairitu:
Devanagari script is used
On 04/22/2013 11:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his
meditation practice, I don't understand why you
think this is relevant.
The mantras MMY wrote down were probably English
transliterations; I doubt if MMY could write in
Sanskrit script.
: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
Since MMY likely wasn't using those mantras in his meditation practice, I
don't understand why you think this is relevant.
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by it? Something along those
lines.
From: sparaig LEnglish5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
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We all tell ourselves lies. Even fully enlightened
Jackson wrote:
how do you know what the Old Fraud did in his meditation?
From: sparaig LEnglish5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Since MMY
, Michael Jackson wrote:
how do you know what the Old Fraud did in his meditation?
From: sparaig LEnglish5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Since MMY
wrote:
how do you know what the Old Fraud did in his meditation?
From: sparaig LEnglish5@
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Secrets of the Mantras
Since MMY
Bhairitu:
I even had my tantra guru write mantras in Devanagari
because transliterations can be tricky.
From what I've read, there is not a single person on
in this list that could identify their bija mantra on
any tantric yantra or mandala, or from flash cards of
the Sanskrit
In TM theory, it isn't that mantras are kept secret for the sake of a secret,,
but because the process of meditation and the process of speaking the mantra
aloud or writing it down, are contrary to one another.
There's even a physiological explanation that might explain why this is so.
L
---
Just got off the phone with one of my old TM
friends in North Carolina - he just finished
reading the Secret of the Mantras - if what
he told me was accurate I don't see how one
could read the book and not see what a damned
old fraud Marshy was
Bhairitu:
I recall when I came
you have shown time and again here that you use any occasion to make the most
extremist statement, and a good deal of plain nonsense too. So I doubt any
careful observer cares much anymore.
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