Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread Vaj
As a foster parent IĀ can tell you theĀ hallmarks courses on foster parenting or adoption all warn against are kids with attachment disorders, esp. undiagnosed or overlooked Reactive Attachment Disorder or Borderline Personality Disorder. These are often unlikely to respond to easy intervention

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread Peter
I used to do a lot of testing for the state and I saw many kids with Reactive Attachment disorder. They either grossly over-attach or under-attach. --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a foster parent I can tell you the hallmarks courses on foster parenting or adoption all warn against are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread Peter
There are. When you study them without the clinical experience they can seem very similar, but they are quite different in direct experience. Personality disorders are just extreme extensions of normal personality traits. By the way, I thought New Mornings post refering to various posters as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are. When you study them without the clinical experience they can seem very similar, but they are quite different in direct experience. Personality disorders are just extreme extensions of normal personality traits.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread curtisdeltablues
Peter, That must be fascinating work for you. As a layman my interest is using the information as a basis for compassion with disturbed people I encounter in my life. The distinction that helps me is between your garden variety asshole and a person trapped in a disorder, whatever it may be.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a practicing psychologist and an instructor in the psychiatry department at Harvard Medical School Practicing psychiatrist, and lots of people lecture at Harvard, etc. The REAL question is: what do the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially people who are narcissistic appear to be sociopathic to the untrained eye. There's also the issue that these defintions are of people so pathological that they come to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially people who are narcissistic appear to be sociopathic to the untrained eye. There's also the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially people who are narcissistic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-07 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's like the catch-22 with alcoholics: If somebody says, I'm not an alcoholic, the layperson is likely to say, Alcoholics typically deny they're alcoholics, so this person must be an alcoholic since he's denied

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
I think a lot of the points against the book are valid. The book still rocks. It is popular psychology for the layman. It is her clinical opinion from her experience with this small group of our population. If you have interacted with only one of these people in your life, it is one too many.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a lot of the points against the book are valid. The book still rocks. It is popular psychology for the layman. (Er, there's no such thing as popular psychology for experts. Popular psychology is for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
a practicing psychologist and an instructor in the psychiatry department at Harvard Medical School --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I think a lot of the points

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a practicing psychologist and an instructor in the psychiatry department at Harvard Medical School And...? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was intrigued by Gerbal's definition of sociopath: it simply indicates someone who has no sense of or possibly no respect for someone else's sense of boundaries (among other things). I thought, Ok, I know any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are dancing, but not facing the music. What good does it do anyone for you to indicate per your list that possibly one lister fits the criteria that you are describing? You obviously have people in mind, but do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread Peter
Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially people who are narcissistic appear to be sociopathic to the untrained eye. --- curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a lot of the points against the book are valid. The book still rocks. It is popular psychology for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: You are dancing, but not facing the music. What good does it do anyone for you to indicate per your list that possibly one lister fits the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK- no problem with your response. No, I don't have a thorn in my side. I was commenting very specifically on your hints but not names. I just don't find it very useful is all- and I cannot speculate who you might

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sociopaths

2006-08-06 Thread curtisdeltablues
Interesting distinction. There are so many shades of disorder in human psychology aren't there? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sociopaths are far and few inbetween. Superficially people who are narcissistic appear to be sociopathic to the untrained eye.