Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: [BIG SNIP] Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. When I was a seeker I was ready to give up everything at great risk to myself and to my future finance, and go to India with nothing. Those were the days of the true seekers. Now everyone wants it for the price of a Cafe-Grande. Sad days indeed. OffWorld On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? Vastu outside to help establish vastu inside? Yes, and similarly, once vastu is established inside, no need for vastu outside. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vastu outside to help establish vastu inside? Hey, I like that! Good positioning statement. Facing east? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- off_world_beings wrote: Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why doesn't he tell her that if she quits after her first year, it'll only cost her $3.42 a meditation? Or about 20 cents a minute. Or just pennies per repetition of the mantra! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: I hardly know how to begin other than to express my extreme disappointment and disillusionment over the introduction to the practice of TM and the potential of a Peace Palace being built here in our city. Your presentation was something right out of an L Ron Hubbard Dianetics seminar. I have had the TM web sight book marked quite some time. I have read about the meditative benefits and life changing opportunities on the web site, in many periodicals, most recently an article on meditation in my latest Yoga Journal. I have been reading about the quest that David Lynch has taken up and had thought it most noble. The total lack of altruism, and I believe misrepresentation, of your promotion of the TM practice and the Peace Palace is outrageously incredible and severely naïve for a group that promotes Enlightenment. I believe you will find our city much more enlightened than your group took our community for. I speak only for myself and Terri but we have achieved a level of enlightenment through our separate searching's and readings and life choices and in our coming together to share and explore and meditate through many outlets that I am quite embarrassed by your elementary attempt to reach out to the community under the guise of 'science meets enlightenment and world peace' at the low, low cost of $2500. There are other true Vedic teachers and others of many followings and beliefs, who teach, train mentor and guide to be found in the world who do so out of an inner desire to share and to love and to help and all they require in return is the possibility and potential of those that seek them and that come after. I find it hard to express succinctly exactly how I feel. I will be commenting on the TM web site and I will write to the editor of my Yoga Journal and pass on my experience with this introduction to the TM practice, and I will pass on to anyone who expresses an interest in the Peace Palace that, yes, it may be coming and may be available to anyone who is willing to pay. REPLY: e-Conversation with someone who came to my intro last night. Please don't forward to anyone without first removing my name and address. I've changed the names to protect the innocent. Hi Alice, Thanks for coming to the intro and for your candid if somewhat searing critique of our programs and presentation. I was going to call you to get your feedback to see if it concurred with my intuition of your reception - that you (and Terri) were turned off by the price of instruction- -$2500. Is that correct? I'm sorry that I wasn't able to overcome that objection and it's a BIG objection, the dichotomy between what's commonly taken for spirituality and materialism. This has even divided people in our organization--I know several TM teachers who have refused to teach at this rate. I'm curious to know at what price point your objection would drop and you would begin the practice, as you indicate that you think it would be good to learn the Transcendental Meditation technique, with its meditative benefits and life changing opportunities. Thanks for taking the time to write this fairly long and thoughtful e-mail. I think we can respect each other's opinions and feelings--and if I can't convert you--that we can nevertheless, 'agree to disagree' (excuse the cliche') and maybe yet become friends? Ultimately we want the same things for ourselves, our families and even our country, don't we? Perfect health, peace, prosperity, happiness, and the 24 hour bliss of Brahman (Unity) Consciousness? In that respect are we not comrades rather than adversaries? As I have never been to one, I'll have to take your word for the Dianetics thing and take it as a complement? And I agree that this city is a wonderful place with a lot of highly intelligent and creative people, but I'll disagree with your use of the term enlightened, reserving that for a specific state of human consciousness that increasingly can be verified by its physiological correlates--brain functioning primarily but many others as well. The terms enlightened and enlightenment, like the co-opting of mantra and pundit, have come to mean something much less than their original meanings. So when I use the term I will capitalize it and use it to mean one or all of the 5th thru 7th states that I presented last night-- Cosmic, God and Unity Consciousness. To try to improve our communications (assuming if I may, that we will hopefully continue them), I will tell you that my understanding of Cosmic Consciousness is that this is the state somewhat commonly referred to as Nirvana, i.e., that there are two more states of consciousness beyond that. The sword
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: [BIG SNIP] Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. When I was a seeker I was ready to give up everything at great risk to myself and to my future finance, and go to India with nothing. Those were the days of the true seekers. Now everyone wants it for the price of a Cafe-Grande. Sad days indeed. OffWorld On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: [BIG SNIP] Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. When I was a seeker I was ready to give up everything at great risk to myself and to my future finance, and go to India with nothing. Those were the days of the true seekers. Now everyone wants it for the price of a Cafe-Grande. Sad days indeed. OffWorld On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? Probably. Alternatively we could just start a casino or a hogfarm. Think it would be as good to have a casino in your town? OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: [BIG SNIP] Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. When I was a seeker I was ready to give up everything at great risk to myself and to my future finance, and go to India with nothing. Those were the days of the true seekers. Now everyone wants it for the price of a Cafe-Grande. Sad days indeed. OffWorld On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? Can't hurt. Eliminate a few weapons systems and there they are. Where there's a will, there's a way...Perhaps there is no will. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? I think the peace palaces will go the way of the pundits. A lot of show but no go. They'll be used to raise money for MMY's nephews. I think they need a new palace themselves, don't they? Poor tykes! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
Comments interleaved below. An anonymous TM teacher wrote: the $2,500 course fee is infinitesimally small in comparison to what you'll get from regular practice of Transcendental Meditation. I tell you truthfully that you can't begin to even imagine it! Can't imagine what? How great TM is? I've been doing TM for 31 years, and I have no idea what this person is talking about. It's great and I love it, but it's not beyond imagining It's quiet, it's restful, there's some feeling of love... seems to me that's wholly imaginable. And I tell you truthfully that there is simply nothing else in this world that you can spend $2,500 to learn that will bring you what this will. If it's so great, why do so many people -- indeed, most people -- quit in their first year? --- off_world_beings wrote: Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. Or why doesn't he tell her that if she quits after her first year, it'll only cost her $3.42 a meditation? She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. Screw seeking. For $2,500, there damn well better be some finding, and fast. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments interleaved below. An anonymous TM teacher wrote: the $2,500 course fee is infinitesimally small in comparison to what you'll get from regular practice of Transcendental Meditation. I tell you truthfully that you can't begin to even imagine it! Can't imagine what? How great TM is? I've been doing TM for 31 years, and I have no idea what this person is talking about. It's great and I love it, but it's not beyond imagining It's quiet, it's restful, there's some feeling of love... seems to me that's wholly imaginable. And I tell you truthfully that there is simply nothing else in this world that you can spend $2,500 to learn that will bring you what this will. If it's so great, why do so many people -- indeed, most people -- quit in their first year? --- off_world_beings wrote: Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. Or why doesn't he tell her that if she quits after her first year, it'll only cost her $3.42 a meditation? She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. Screw seeking. For $2,500, there damn well better be some finding, and fast. It is only a mere 1,400 British pounds. Whats all the fuss about? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: [BIG SNIP] Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. When I was a seeker I was ready to give up everything at great risk to myself and to my future finance, and go to India with nothing. Those were the days of the true seekers. Now everyone wants it for the price of a Cafe-Grande. Sad days indeed. OffWorld On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? Vastu outside to help establish vastu inside? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? I think the peace palaces will go the way of the pundits. A lot of show but no go. They'll be used to raise money for MMY's nephews. I think they need a new palace themselves, don't they? Poor tykes! Just how well do MMY's nephews live? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Introduction
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Subject:* TM Introduction Dr. Director of the TM Peace Palace Project: [BIG SNIP] Why doesn't he just tell her it is about $40 a month over 5 years, or about $20 a month over 10 years. She probably spends more than that on cafe-lattes and Japanese dine outs each month. Some seeker. When I was a seeker I was ready to give up everything at great risk to myself and to my future finance, and go to India with nothing. Those were the days of the true seekers. Now everyone wants it for the price of a Cafe-Grande. Sad days indeed. OffWorld On the other hand, does the world really need the peace palaces? Can't hurt. Eliminate a few weapons systems and there they are. Where there's a will, there's a way...Perhaps there is no will. No Way. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
