Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's actions. True, that was typical of conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging war. However we consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We don't target innocent civilians, force them to convert and then kill them anyway, we don't steel supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it and we observe a uniform code of military conduct observed by almost all nations. BTW, we took nothing material from the Native Americans. Even they said *nobody owned the land*, so it wasn't theirs either by their own logic. We did give them about 24 dollars and some beads for Manhattan and perpetual welfare for next to eternity along with a reservation if they wanted to stay there. Not saying it was a good deal for NAs, but it was the best that could offered at the time. Had Europeans never made it to the Americas, they, NAs, would still be living in the stone age today, chasing buffalo herds on foot, living in *harmony* with nature, and killing each other over hunting grounds. Some times *change* requires a phase transition. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:24 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad. 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
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On 10/11/2014 10:24 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. /The U.S. conquered Iraq and liberated it from a despotic tyrant, but the U.S. didn't get any oil out of Iraq. Now, the current administration has lost the war and we'll have to send troops back in to beat back and destroy the ISIS. This is going to cost the U.S. taxpayer billions of dollars with no end in sight. The U.S. should have stayed in Iraq with at least 100,000 troops and continued liberating the whole Middle East and stabilize it so the Europeans would have some heating oil this winter. There is no way that NATO is going to be able to protect Europe from Putin and ISIS - both at the same time. No way./ /When Baghdad falls and the Americans there are kidnapped and murdered, there is going to be hell to pay in the next U.S. elections.//A whole decade lost to incompetence. There are going to be a lot of bums kicked out of congress and the White House. That's what I think./ Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. /Non sequitur. American Indians for thousands of years have been conquering countries, so what? The Native Americans all came over to North and South America in order to take whatever they wanted, wherever they wanted to take it. There are no pacifist indigenous populations in the New World./ L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... wrote : /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
Shrug. We have no idea what American Indian civilization would be like 500+ years later. And certainly, ISIS is a primitive, violent group of thugs by modern standards. My only point is that you don't have to go very far back to see the same kind of behavior from the West, so the sense of smug superiority I get from some people is not particuarly supportable. Certainly, it's not terribly useful. We have to work with moderate Muslims to solve the issues, and the we're so much better than the ragheads attitude isn't helping any. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's actions. True, that was typical of conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging war. However we consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We don't target innocent civilians, force them to convert and then kill them anyway, we don't steel supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it and we observe a uniform code of military conduct observed by almost all nations. BTW, we took nothing material from the Native Americans. Even they said *nobody owned the land*, so it wasn't theirs either by their own logic. We did give them about 24 dollars and some beads for Manhattan and perpetual welfare for next to eternity along with a reservation if they wanted to stay there. Not saying it was a good deal for NAs, but it was the best that could offered at the time. Had Europeans never made it to the Americas, they, NAs, would still be living in the stone age today, chasing buffalo herds on foot, living in *harmony* with nature, and killing each other over hunting grounds. Some times *change* requires a phase transition. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:24 PM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad. 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
On 10/12/2014 1:33 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Shrug. We have no idea what American Indian civilization would be like 500+ years later. /Non sequitur. The U.S. and its allies had won the war against al Qaeda in Iraq, according to Obama and Biden. Now just a year later we've lost everything. / America's plans to fight Islamic State are in ruins as the militant group's fighters come close to capturing Kobani and have inflicted a heavy defeat on the Iraqi army west of Baghdad. The US-led air attacks launched against Islamic State (also known as Isis) on 8 August in Iraq and 23 September in Syria have not worked. 'War against Isis: US strategy in tatters as militants march on' http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/war-against-isis-us-strategy-in-tatters-as-militants-march-on-9789230.html And certainly, ISIS is a primitive, violent group of thugs by modern standards. My only point is that you don't have to go very far back to see the same kind of behavior from the West, so the sense of smug superiority I get from some people is not particuarly supportable. Certainly, it's not terribly useful. We have to work with moderate Muslims to solve the issues, and the we're so much better than the ragheads attitude isn't helping any. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Sounds like you're justifying ISIS's actions. True, that was typical of conquering armies in the past due to the practicality of waging war. However we consider our selves a *bit* more civilized today. We don't target innocent civilians, force them to convert and then kill them anyway, we don't steel supplies, we buy it if we don't bring it and we observe a uniform code of military conduct observed by almost all nations. BTW, we took nothing material from the Native Americans. Even they said *nobody owned the land*, so it wasn't theirs either by their own logic. We did give them about 24 dollars and some beads for Manhattan and perpetual welfare for next to eternity along with a reservation if they wanted to stay there. Not saying it was a good deal for NAs, but it was the best that could offered at the time. Had Europeans never made it to the Americas, they, NAs, would still be living in the stone age today, chasing buffalo herds on foot, living in *harmony* with nature, and killing each other over hunting grounds. Some times *change* requires a phase transition. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:24 PM, LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad [1 Attachment]
/According to what I've read, in the next few days President Obama will order thousands of U.S. Marines back into Baghdad, Iraq, in order to save the U.S. embassy. To provide security for the U.S. interests and the U.S. embassy; to fight the ISIS insurgents and drive them back out of the city. Failure is not an option. How is that smart diplomacy working? /Islamic State jihadists move within eight miles of the Iraqi capital, sparking calls for America to return to the country 'Iraq asks for US ground troops as Isil threaten Baghdad' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156264/Iraq-asks-for-US-ground-troops-as-Isil-threaten-Baghdad.html /ISIS insurgent rides into downtown Baghdad/ http://rt.com/news/167636-iraq-cities-captured-isis/ /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
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How does Obama like his crow cooked? On Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:10 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below] According to what I've read, in the next few days President Obama will order thousands of U.S. Marines back into Baghdad, Iraq, in order to save the U.S. embassy. To provide security for the U.S. interests and the U.S. embassy; to fight the ISIS insurgents and drive them back out of the city. Failure is not an option. How is that smart diplomacy working? Islamic State jihadists move within eight miles of the Iraqi capital, sparking calls for America to return to the country 'Iraq asks for US ground troops as Isil threaten Baghdad' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156264/Iraq-asks-for-US-ground-troops-as-Isil-threaten-Baghdad.html ISIS insurgent rides into downtown Baghdad http://rt.com/news/167636-iraq-cities-captured-isis/ Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
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On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
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They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad. 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
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Christian Crusaders did the same thing, and don't fool yourself, if Americans ever conquered a country, we'd do the same thing too. Ask any American Indian tribe if you need examples. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad. 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
