[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread authfriend
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 This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they all 
 be surprised when they get to the other side!

I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.

Any takers?


 
 Thank you for submitting this.  I have passed it on to friends.  
 Made my day, too.
 
 :-)  Cheyenne
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
 wrote:
 
  Interesting article in The Guardian reporting on an
  Islamic scholar's suggestion that the notion of Muslim
  martyrs enjoying 72 virgins in Paradise as a reward is
  a misinterpretation of the Quranic text.  What the
  martyrs are actually to enjoy, he says, are not virgins
  but white raisins.
  
  http://tinyurl.com/2yuzh
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread Alex Stanley
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@ 
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  This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they all 
  be surprised when they get to the other side!
 
 I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
 of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.
 
 Any takers?

I quite like the notion of all the fundie Jebus nutters being sucked
en masse from the planet.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread Vaj


On Jun 8, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@  wrote:  This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they all  be surprised when they get to the other side!  I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.  Any takers?  I quite like the notion of all the fundie Jebus nutters being sucked en masse from the planet. Then you'll love this:http://www.weirdcrap.com/chick/judge/judge.htmlhttp://www.weirdcrap.com/chick/homo/homo.html
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they
   all be surprised when they get to the other side!
  
  I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
  of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.
  
  Any takers?
 
 I quite like the notion of all the fundie Jebus nutters being sucked
 en masse from the planet.

Oh, no question.  I'm hoping there's no misinterpretation
there.

The question is, will they find what they expect when
they get where they're going?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
'The question is, will they find what they expect when
they get where they're going?'

Ain't no heaven, ain't no burn'n hell,
where we go when we die,
can't nobody tell.

The late, great, John Lee Hooker


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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
 j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   
This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't 
they
all be surprised when they get to the other side!
   
   I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
   of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.
   
   Any takers?
  
  I quite like the notion of all the fundie Jebus nutters being 
sucked
  en masse from the planet.
 
 Oh, no question.  I'm hoping there's no misinterpretation
 there.
 
 The question is, will they find what they expect when
 they get where they're going?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread cardemaister
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they 
all 
  be surprised when they get to the other side!
 
 I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
 of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.
 
 Any takers?

Wiki:

Etymology
The word rapture comes from the Latin verb rapere which means to 
carry off, abduct, seize or take forcefully (compare rape). It was 
used in the Latin Vulgate (about 405 A.D.) translation of 1 
Thessalonians 4:17, which is the primary biblical reference to the 
event in question, rapiemur we shall be caught up translating the 
original harpagçsometha (passive mood, future tense of harpazô).

rapiemur -- we shall be raped??


 
 
  
  Thank you for submitting this.  I have passed it on to friends.  
  Made my day, too.
  
  :-)  Cheyenne
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
  wrote:
  
   Interesting article in The Guardian reporting on an
   Islamic scholar's suggestion that the notion of Muslim
   martyrs enjoying 72 virgins in Paradise as a reward is
   a misinterpretation of the Quranic text.  What the
   martyrs are actually to enjoy, he says, are not virgins
   but white raisins.
   
   http://tinyurl.com/2yuzh
  
 








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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread authfriend
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wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they 
 all 
   be surprised when they get to the other side!
  
  I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
  of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.
  
  Any takers?
 
 Wiki:
 
 Etymology
 The word rapture comes from the Latin verb rapere which means to 
 carry off, abduct, seize or take forcefully (compare rape). It was 
 used in the Latin Vulgate (about 405 A.D.) translation of 1 
 Thessalonians 4:17, which is the primary biblical reference to the 
 event in question, rapiemur we shall be caught up translating the 
 original harpagçsometha (passive mood, future tense of harpazô).
 
 rapiemur -- we shall be raped??

Excellent!!

Possibly by the frustrated Muslim martyrs unhappy
that all they got was raisins...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting article in The Guardian reporting on an
 Islamic scholar's suggestion that the notion of Muslim
 martyrs enjoying 72 virgins in Paradise as a reward is
 a misinterpretation of the Quranic text.  What the
 martyrs are actually to enjoy, he says, are not virgins
 but white raisins.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/2yuzh


Faith in the Old Testament is a word that best translates as strong in God.
Faith in the New Testament is a word that best translates as intuitive 
knowledge.

Imagine if Fundamentalists had to justify their behavior based on THOSE words 
instead of 
belief without proof.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread Vaj


On Jun 8, 2006, at 5:09 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" jstein@ wrote:  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@  wrote:  This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they  all  be surprised when they get to the other side!  I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.  Any takers?  Wiki:  Etymology The word "rapture" comes from the Latin verb rapere which means "to  carry off, abduct, seize or take forcefully" (compare rape). It was  used in the Latin Vulgate (about 405 A.D.) translation of 1  Thessalonians 4:17, which is the primary biblical reference to the  event in question, rapiemur "we shall be caught up" translating the  original harpagçsometha (passive mood, future tense of harpazô).  rapiemur -- we shall be raped??  Excellent!!  Possibly by the frustrated Muslim martyrs unhappy that all they got was raisins... Actually the story you posted I had heard a number of years ago on the web--the actual translation then was "dates" not raisins--not sure why this recent rehash has translated so differently, unless it was to appeal to a western audience.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 
 Actually the story you posted I had heard a number of years ago on  
 the web--the actual translation then was dates not raisins--not  
 sure why this recent rehash has translated so differently, unless it  
 was to appeal to a western audience.


Hey, 72 dates at once isn't nothing to sneeze at. Lots of viagra needed...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread authfriend
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
 [...]
  
  Actually the story you posted I had heard a number of years ago on  
  the web--the actual translation then was dates not raisins--not  
  sure why this recent rehash has translated so differently, unless 
it  
  was to appeal to a western audience.
 
 
 Hey, 72 dates at once isn't nothing to sneeze at. Lots of viagra
 needed...

Especially if they're not virgins.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Virgins or raisins?

2006-06-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jun 8, 2006, at 5:09 PM, authfriend wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@
  wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, spiritwalk99 no_reply@
  wrote:
 
  This article is priceless!  It sure explains a lot.  Won't they
  all
  be surprised when they get to the other side!
 
  I wish somebody would find a similar misinterpretation
  of the Christian Rupture, er, Rapture.
 
  Any takers?
 
  Wiki:
 
  Etymology
  The word rapture comes from the Latin verb rapere which 
means to
  carry off, abduct, seize or take forcefully (compare rape). It 
was
  used in the Latin Vulgate (about 405 A.D.) translation of 1
  Thessalonians 4:17, which is the primary biblical reference to 
the
  event in question, rapiemur we shall be caught up translating 
the
  original harpagçsometha (passive mood, future tense of harpazô).
 
  rapiemur -- we shall be raped??
 
  Excellent!!
 
  Possibly by the frustrated Muslim martyrs unhappy
  that all they got was raisins...
 
 Actually the story you posted I had heard a number of years ago on  
 the web--the actual translation then was dates not raisins--not  
 sure why this recent rehash has translated so differently, unless
 it was to appeal to a western audience.

Oh, that must be it, Vaj.  I mean, raisins are *so*
completely different from dates, and Westerners have
no idea what dates are.

Do you ever listen to yourself?

The book came out a little over a year ago (if you
read the article).






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