[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, You continue to score points over here. Curtis: You don't get a pass for ragging because the kids are dying. Edg: I tried the ME -- didn't work. I tried to engage the collaborators with words. Didn't work. What do you suggest? Curtis: I think you over objectify your targets out of their humanity sometimes. That is a human loss no matter what their POV is. Edg: Good points. I do objectify these scoundrels, cuz that's what they must BE to have such blind eyes when they think they're looking at the world 20/20. It is their mindset I am objectifying. If I had them on their knees and me with a sword, I couldn't cut off their heads, but if I could push a button and remove the predation and elitism in them, I'd hit that button with a sledge hammer. Curtis: The people who wanted to get the pundits some freak'n decent clothes for Iowa Winter were following an impulse of kindness that I admire. Do we have to relate it to other problems? Can't is just be cool on its own? Edg: Again, nice points, and yes, there are some very good hearts in FF -- hearts that are abused and used again and again by the TMO. And, yes, I could pick my battles, but coward that I am, so much that I used to do when I was a protesting hippy simply is too risky for me today -- words are the only bullets I have left. To me, they're like the 2x4 used to get a mule's attention. Curtis: I don't know that he [Dick] isn't. Maybe he is caring for a sick parent at home and this is his outlet for hope. I think you brought a gun to a fistfight and you are bound to shoot off a few rounds. At this stage, knowing what we all know, I suspect TBs have some good reasons for believing as they do. It isn't for me, and I am judgmental about it too. But I don't need to kick a crutch out from under someone, even if that is how I may view some of the movement believer shit. Edg: More good points -- you show your heart. I don't know that I can match you for your willingness to cut TBs a break. There were many Nazi TBs that thought they were doing the most holy thing by purifying their race, ya know? Hard to sort the really bad guys out and leave the Dick-types alone. Curtis: I just think you are being too personal in your attack and not allowing for a person with real needs like yours. Edg: Yeah, when someone's actions are affecting me emotionally, I do take it personally. All my life, I've eaten shit from just about everyone and said ooo, yummy. But no more. If it's merely a speck of shit from Dick or a plateful from Richard, I'm complaining. But, I know I use too broad a brush -- a lot. Edg: I don't have patience with folks who refuse to see the implications of their positions when if those positions are extrapolated into their extreme forms evil is then easily seen. Curtis: I think this is at the crux of our differences. Extrapolating imposes an absurd condition on thoughts. Everything isn't a slippery slope, even if one can be imagined. Edg: This is advice I can listen to. Thanks. Curtis: I don't hold someone responsible for the action of the movement. I remember what it was like for me. If you rock the boat they cut you off from enlightenment. TBs are way too cowered to raise a fuss. I remember the mindset, karma etc. Dick doesn't deserve that much shit IMO. Edg: Okay, okay, no more shitting on Dick. Curtis: So you have differing world views and perspectives on a complex topic. If you don't understand Richard's POV it is hard to imagine that you have really developed your own. Edg: I read his Web pages. He's been around the block, and I do think I understand his POV -- kill them all and let God sort them out. My own POV evolves by the nanosecond, and Richard's too, for sure, but he is so unwilling to examine the pain of the world, and slips into being such an asshole, that, yeah, wrong of me, but he gets under my skin when dead children are scattered around the globe and he's saying so what? Curtis: I am not a fan of terms like minion of evil. It is too one- dimensional and missed the gray zones that interest me about people. It sounds very George Bush, a comparison which I'm sure you will appreciate! I don't view Bevan or MMY in this light. I reserve that title for the very few who have earned it. Nobody in the movement even comes close IMO. Edg: Yeah, I tend to lump slightly bad with extremely bad. My bad. Curtis: Edg, I'm not teaching you shit. I am just enjoying communication on a richer level than a confrontational one. You don't have to cut me any breaks. My love of music isn't anything I choose and shouldn't be anything that makes you see me as deserving a break. I am a man possessed by his own interests, just like you. Edg: Nice. Humble shit there, dude. I'm inspired. I'll try harder,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
Curtis, You continue to score points over here. Curtis: You don't get a pass for ragging because the kids are dying. Edg: I tried the ME -- didn't work. I tried to engage the collaborators with words. Didn't work. What do you suggest? Curtis: I think you over objectify your targets out of their humanity sometimes. That is a human loss no matter what their POV is. Edg: Good points. I do objectify these scoundrels, cuz that's what they must BE to have such blind eyes when they think they're looking at the world 20/20. It is their mindset I am objectifying. If I had them on their knees and me with a sword, I couldn't cut off their heads, but if I could push a button and remove the predation and elitism in them, I'd hit that button with a sledge hammer. Curtis: The people who wanted to get the pundits some freak'n decent clothes for Iowa Winter were following an impulse of kindness that I admire. Do we have to relate it to other problems? Can't is just be cool on its own? Edg: Again, nice points, and yes, there are some very good hearts in FF -- hearts that are abused and used again and again by the TMO. And, yes, I could pick my battles, but coward that I am, so much that I used to do when I was a protesting hippy simply is too risky for me today -- words are the only bullets I have left. To me, they're like the 2x4 used to get a mule's attention. Curtis: I don't know that he [Dick] isn't. Maybe he is caring for a sick parent at home and this is his outlet for hope. I think you brought a gun to a fistfight and you are bound to shoot off a few rounds. At this stage, knowing what we all know, I suspect TBs have some good reasons for believing as they do. It isn't for me, and I am judgmental about it too. But I don't need to kick a crutch out from under someone, even if that is how I may view some of the movement believer shit. Edg: More good points -- you show your heart. I don't know that I can match you for your willingness to cut TBs a break. There were many Nazi TBs that thought they were doing the most holy thing by purifying their race, ya know? Hard to sort the really bad guys out and leave the Dick-types alone. Curtis: I just think you are being too personal in your attack and not allowing for a person with real needs like yours. Edg: Yeah, when someone's actions are affecting me emotionally, I do take it personally. All my life, I've eaten shit from just about everyone and said ooo, yummy. But no more. If it's merely a speck of shit from Dick or a plateful from Richard, I'm complaining. But, I know I use too broad a brush -- a lot. Edg: I don't have patience with folks who refuse to see the implications of their positions when if those positions are extrapolated into their extreme forms evil is then easily seen. Curtis: I think this is at the crux of our differences. Extrapolating imposes an absurd condition on thoughts. Everything isn't a slippery slope, even if one can be imagined. Edg: This is advice I can listen to. Thanks. Curtis: I don't hold someone responsible for the action of the movement. I remember what it was like for me. If you rock the boat they cut you off from enlightenment. TBs are way too cowered to raise a fuss. I remember the mindset, karma etc. Dick doesn't deserve that much shit IMO. Edg: Okay, okay, no more shitting on Dick. Curtis: So you have differing world views and perspectives on a complex topic. If you don't understand Richard's POV it is hard to imagine that you have really developed your own. Edg: I read his Web pages. He's been around the block, and I do think I understand his POV -- kill them all and let God sort them out. My own POV evolves by the nanosecond, and Richard's too, for sure, but he is so unwilling to examine the pain of the world, and slips into being such an asshole, that, yeah, wrong of me, but he gets under my skin when dead children are scattered around the globe and he's saying so what? Curtis: I am not a fan of terms like minion of evil. It is too one- dimensional and missed the gray zones that interest me about people. It sounds very George Bush, a comparison which I'm sure you will appreciate! I don't view Bevan or MMY in this light. I reserve that title for the very few who have earned it. Nobody in the movement even comes close IMO. Edg: Yeah, I tend to lump slightly bad with extremely bad. My bad. Curtis: Edg, I'm not teaching you shit. I am just enjoying communication on a richer level than a confrontational one. You don't have to cut me any breaks. My love of music isn't anything I choose and shouldn't be anything that makes you see me as deserving a break. I am a man possessed by his own interests, just like you. Edg: Nice. Humble shit there, dude. I'm inspired. I'll try harder, but if you would just, you know, for the sake of giving Edg an example, could you pick one of the trolls here and show me how to handle them and get anywhere with them? I'll be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
I would call this post insulting and abusive. Dick has every right to post exactly what he wants to post and he has no obligation to engage in dialogue with anyone, least of all someone who posts in this vicious manner. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who can give me the low-down on Dick Mays? Emphasis on the low parts? To me he's a movement coward who posts things he MUST KNOW is pure propaganda. Can anyone say anything positive about this brainwasher? I don't think I've ever seen him respond to anyone's comments about his posts, so to me that's a bigass tell that he's a mindless TB who is a karmic curse upon us all here who hold ourselves to our words and are willing to be examined by our peers here in that we at least read the responses to our posts. Even Off, Shemp, etc. are not guilty of posting pure-shit and then not reading the responses. They're at least trying to have a dialog to some degree. Am I right that Dick's going to watch the pundits almost starve to death and then ask for more money for them? Who is this prick, er, Dick? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Fast forward to this year's recent devastation. The Worland's and several other people's Sthapatya Ved houses were spared again against all odds. What happened? Well, the MSV homes that did not burn, they do sit in recently built subdivisions with building lots that are scraped and bull-dozed of natural landscape. spec built of less-flamable materials, sort of like the fire departments do recommend. There is not a lot that is natural about how MSV homes are situated on land and inside their building lots. The homes tend to sit in the middle of a no- man's land. Of course the spokespersons asked would not offer that as an explaination. They would be too deep in the pockets of MSV to point this out being either objective or un-pr-manipulated about it. The TMmovement people here quoted in the article are life-long TMmovement PR protagonists. TMsophists who argue, What Maharishi is doing is more important than anything anyone is doing. ..Like, not may be even not portraying the truth when asked? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@ wrote: http://www.bleepingherald.com/dec2007/vedic-architecture Vedic architecture - the power of life-giving principles by Cate Montana On October 25, 2003, a fire began near the mountain town of Ramona in San Diego County, California. Fueled by acres of dry brush and fanned by strong Santa Ana winds, the Cedar Fire spread rapidly, burning 273,246 acres, destroying 2,232 homes, and killing 14 people. According to Jeff Harter, battalion chief of the California Fire Plan, California Department of Forestry, the speed and ferocity of the blaze were heart stopping. Jeanette Worland watched the fire approach across the hills, while her husband, Paul, hosed down the new home he had designed and built according to the principles of Maharishi Vedic Architecture. Pushed by 40 to 60 mph winds, the fire roared up to their home around midnight, then made a sudden 90 degree shift and passed directly outside of the house's Vastu fence. This sudden shift allowed the Worlands to evacuate - and it saved the house and everything in or near it. After shifting the blaze away from the house, minutes later the wind shifted back to its original direction and consumed the acreage directly behind the home. The astonishing jog of the fire around the house was confirmed the next day by two fire fighters who noted with amazement that the fire seemed to lack the desire to destroy this house. Five other Maharishi Sthapatya Ved houses located within the fire's path were similarly spared with only smoke damage. One of the five was the only house among several in a cul-de-sac not to burn. Fast forward to this year's recent devastation. The Worland's and several other people's Sthapatya Ved houses were spared again against all odds. What happened? Miracles are considered the result of divine intervention. But miracles have also been defined as occurrences which seem inexplicable because the laws governing them are so subtle they have not yet been discovered. In the case of these six homes, the miracle of their preservation depended upon principles that had been discovered, only many thousands of years ago in India. Vedic architecture, or Vastu architecture, also known as Sthapatya Veda, is a system of architecture and city planning based in cosmic principles that was learned by the great Indian rishis and then recorded thousands of years ago in the texts of the Vedas. The Sanskrit word Sthapan
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I'm in the mood for this today, so let me ask anyone here to give me the low-down on feste37. Who is this creep? Do you have psych problems, fella, or are you just a self-righteous asshole?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Okay, I'm in the mood for this today, so let me ask anyone here to give me the low-down on feste37. Who is this creep? Do you have psych problems, fella, or are you just a self-righteous asshole? He is just a normal fellow with a need for a checking. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Okay, I'm in the mood for this today, so let me ask anyone here to give me the low-down on feste37. Who is this creep? Do you have psych problems, fella, or are you just a self-righteous asshole? He is just a normal fellow with a need for a checking. ;-) Seems he's had this 'need for a checking' for many months now.
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From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:55 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays? Rick, He may be entitled to his posts. I didn't say he should be banned -- just in case you're thinking that. Instead, he needs to be confronted for the blind lies he tells for the TMO money making machine. Confront him to your heart’s content. But I’d say you’ll make a stronger case if you confront him on the facts, point by point, than by attacking him personally. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Okay, I'm in the mood for this today, so let me ask anyone here to give me the low-down on feste37. Who is this creep? Do you have psych problems, fella, or are you just a self- righteous asshole? He is just a normal fellow with a need for a checking. ;-) Seems he's had this 'need for a checking' for many months now. With his stresslevels I'd say years if not decades...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
Rick, He may be entitled to his posts. I didn't say he should be banned -- just in case you're thinking that. Instead, he needs to be confronted for the blind lies he tells for the TMO money making machine. I'm glad he posts here -- I'm angry that others do not confront his propaganda in terms that he might understand enough to see that he's really not looking deeply at his collaboration with folks who are simply using his good heart as their sheep's clothing. To the extent that he is of low intelligence, I can forgive him being a dupe. I was one for the movement for decades, but for him to post crap here again and again and not be called on it, seems to be giving him a message that he's doing a good thing. Not today! Not on my watch today! I'm on record now. Who else will be counted? To me, silence means that Dick Mays is abused and not given a chance to explain himself. My complaints are his doorway to integrity if he would but try to walk through it and attempt a dialog. At Rick's Party, yeah, everyone gets to speak to anyone, but that includes me yelling Get the fuck off my toes if Dick thinks he can stomp around without looking at where he's going. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know Dick Mays quite well, though I don't see him often. He's a very sweet guy, with a good heart. He loves Maharishi and is just expressing what he feels. We may not all share his perspective, but he's certainly entitled to post what he posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
I know Dick Mays quite well, though I don’t see him often. He’s a very sweet guy, with a good heart. He loves Maharishi and is just expressing what he feels. We may not all share his perspective, but he’s certainly entitled to post what he posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asking in such a hostile manner for other people to supply you with the low-down on certain members of this group, including me, might well be interpreted as harrassing or even threatening behavior. I would advise you to be careful, because I will not put up with it. I think the guy has serious psych problems. A few months back he threatened to sue me for everything I have because I accused him of lying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
Snip Instead, he needs to be confronted for the blind lies he tells for the TMO money making machine. I'm glad he posts here -- I'm angry that others do not confront his propaganda You know that there is another choice right? You don't have to be angry about his POV,it could make you laugh. It does have a heavy handed TB vibe, but that is what makes me read every one. He has a distinct POV that I don't share. It is a gold mine for my brain to try to wrap myself around this way of thinking. I am not angry about it. And I know for shit sure that feedback is not being solicited from me by him. Most TBs steer clear of this board because of the symphony of snickers that it invokes. So I really enjoy when we get a dose of pure MMY talking points. It reminds me of somebody I used to be, and I sure don't hate myself for having been that person. Just a thought Edg. Some stuff does get me riled up too. For some reason Dick's posts seem too disembodied for me to care that much. in terms that he might understand enough to see that he's really not looking deeply at his collaboration with folks who are simply using his good heart as their sheep's clothing. To the extent that he is of low intelligence, I can forgive him being a dupe. I was one for the movement for decades, but for him to post crap here again and again and not be called on it, seems to be giving him a message that he's doing a good thing. Not today! Not on my watch today! I'm on record now. Who else will be counted? To me, silence means that Dick Mays is abused and not given a chance to explain himself. My complaints are his doorway to integrity if he would but try to walk through it and attempt a dialog. At Rick's Party, yeah, everyone gets to speak to anyone, but that includes me yelling Get the fuck off my toes if Dick thinks he can stomp around without looking at where he's going. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I know Dick Mays quite well, though I don't see him often. He's a very sweet guy, with a good heart. He loves Maharishi and is just expressing what he feels. We may not all share his perspective, but he's certainly entitled to post what he posts. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
Curtis, I share you view. Honest. I even, get this, still am on the TMO email list -- I get all their invites to various activities etc. I have yet to unsubscribe, cuz, like you, it pays to know what the hell they're trying to pull off. 10,000 kids die of starvation, and I'm the one focused on for being a mouthy jerk stalker pot smoker homosexual ragaholic? When do decent folks get to express outrage that mindless minions are hawking crap for their overlords and no one calls them on it? Kids die every day, and we see NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in the headlines, and so we're talking about buying coats for pundits? This is the pettiness that irks me the most. Trying to get a Richard or a Dick Mays to actually face the world's evil is beating a dead horse, I know, but I have to try, ya know? I can't fight the denial of evil in most of the ways possible without incurring personal risk of being sent to a camp, but I can tell these guys that if -- HERE AT RICK'S PARTY -- they're not going to respond to the true issues and instead make fun of me with flaming instead, then I get the right to flame back, and I'll have a lot of fun doing so, cuz, well, writers love the challenge of getting oomph into their posts. You, Curtis, have been attacked thusly by me -- I gave you more than one load of buck-shot aimed at your backside for not being willing to examine the subtlety of the concept predation, but here you are still dealing with me -- THAT'S RARE AND MATURE -- without being reduced to flaming -- THAT'S GREAT MODELING OF COMMUNICATION, and I declare you a far better person at pulling this off. Though, don't get me wrong, I still think you haven't defended your position very well -- not that you didn't make any points of merit that had me thinking hard. I don't have patience with folks who refuse to see the implications of their positions when if those positions are extrapolated into their extreme forms evil is then easily seen. Why do we post here? To merely yell screw you troll at each other ain't cutting it for me, and I think you share that stance with me since you do try to go toe to toe and get an issue resolved. To me, the TMO's emails are the equivalent of getting a Christmas Card from a Nazi who guards the camp. He'll be a true believer in Christ donchaknow while the greasy smoke of Jewish children's bodies curls around his feet. While Girish rakes in the dough, and pundits are imprisoned. Dick Mays shame on you. While BushCo shows us George clearing brush in his back forty, Richard is posting here about killing children. KILLING CHILDREN FOR OIL. Richard, shame on you. For tweaking the data in order to produce unscientific results and in the meanwhile screwing married women, shame on John and Bevan. Where do you draw the line, Curtis? If not here, then why would I expect you to have my six in a foxhole in real life? If we can't call a minion of evil a bastard to his face here, then it'll never happen in the real world. I just wrote a complaint letter to the woman who decided to disallow Kucinich being in the Des Moines Register debate. Feeble as it is, with my words, I try various techniques. The woman at the Register I was quite mild with, but Dick and Richard simply have ignored my asking for a dialog so many times from them, and they do not deserve any more forbearance. I'm thinking of either leaving here, or wasting my 50 posts per week in a couple days' time on outright poetic raging on the posters here who get away with so much simply because so many folks don't have the time to deal with such small minds. Someone has to give voice to the abuses-upon-the-masses. While I'm waiting for, say, you, Curtis, to show the way to give that voice-of-the-masses a wiser and more mature embodiment that possibly could be heard by the TBs, I'll continue to do it my poor way. And since you love music so deeply, I cut you break after break cuz you gotta have heart to be a musician. Sooner or later, I figures you'll teach me gooder or finally join my howling in the moonlight. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip Instead, he needs to be confronted for the blind lies he tells for the TMO money making machine. I'm glad he posts here -- I'm angry that others do not confront his propaganda You know that there is another choice right? You don't have to be angry about his POV,it could make you laugh. It does have a heavy handed TB vibe, but that is what makes me read every one. He has a distinct POV that I don't share. It is a gold mine for my brain to try to wrap myself around this way of thinking. I am not angry about it. And I know for shit sure that feedback is not being solicited from me by him. Most TBs steer clear of this board because of the symphony of snickers that it invokes. So I really enjoy when we get a dose of pure MMY talking points. It reminds me of somebody I used to be, and I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: Who can give me the low-down on Dick Mays? Emphasis on the low parts? To me he's a movement coward who posts things he MUST KNOW is pure propaganda. Can anyone say anything positive about this brainwasher? I don't think I've ever seen him respond to anyone's comments about his posts, so to me that's a bigass tell that he's a mindless TB who is a karmic curse upon us all here who hold ourselves to our words and are willing to be examined by our peers here in that we at least read the responses to our posts. Even Off, Shemp, etc. are not guilty of posting pure-shit and then not reading the responses. They're at least trying to have a dialog to some degree. Am I right that Dick's going to watch the pundits almost starve to death and then ask for more money for them? Who is this prick, er, Dick? Edg I don't mind these folks posting this stuff. After wasn't it Ron who was doing this a couple years back and now is off with another guru? :D Dick May is a southern gentleman, from Tennessee - Chattanooga, I think. Leave him alone, please. Notwithstanding his 'devoted' posts, his character is such that I'd trust him with my life much more than many who post more interestingly here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: Who can give me the low-down on Dick Mays? Emphasis on the low parts? To me he's a movement coward who posts things he MUST KNOW is pure propaganda. Can anyone say anything positive about this brainwasher? I don't think I've ever seen him respond to anyone's comments about his posts, so to me that's a bigass tell that he's a mindless TB who is a karmic curse upon us all here who hold ourselves to our words and are willing to be examined by our peers here in that we at least read the responses to our posts. Even Off, Shemp, etc. are not guilty of posting pure-shit and then not reading the responses. They're at least trying to have a dialog to some degree. Am I right that Dick's going to watch the pundits almost starve to death and then ask for more money for them? Who is this prick, er, Dick? Edg I don't mind these folks posting this stuff. After wasn't it Ron who was doing this a couple years back and now is off with another guru? :D Dick Mays is a southern gentleman, from Tennessee - Chattanooga, I think. Leave him alone, please. Notwithstanding his 'devoted' posts, his character is such that I'd trust him with my life much more than many who post more interestingly here
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Dick Mays?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Curtis, I share you view. Honest. I even, get this, still am on the TMO email list -- I get all their invites to various activities etc. I have yet to unsubscribe, cuz, like you, it pays to know what the hell they're trying to pull off. I wish I was on those mailing lists. I would look forward to every gold gilded message. I would pay money to know everything the Rajas are doing, every inauguration, photo spreads of their alcohol-free celebrations with cake, sitting around with their party hats in a 6 year old's version of heaven. 10,000 kids die of starvation, and I'm the one focused on for being a mouthy jerk stalker pot smoker homosexual ragaholic? Actually it was real gay person who said your trike looked gay. Shake it off man, balance sports are cool and the only one who has to know that is you. I missed some weed? How did that happen? And yes kids are dying and you sometimes act like a ragaholic. They are not related concepts. You don't get a pass for ragging because the kids are dying. When do decent folks get to express outrage that mindless minions are hawking crap for their overlords and no one calls them on it? I'm calling you on the concept of the value of calling people on shit. Kinda hypocritical I know. I guess it may come down to style. I think you over objectify your targets out of their humanity sometimes. That is a human loss no matter what their POV is. Kids die every day, and we see NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING in the headlines, and so we're talking about buying coats for pundits? There is enough pain and suffering in this world to go around isn't there? Can't we each pick our own battles? The people who wanted to get the pundits some freak'n decent clothes for Iowa Winter were following an impulse of kindness that I admire. Do we have to relate it to other problems? Can't is just be cool on its own? This is the pettiness that irks me the most. Trying to get a Richard or a Dick Mays to actually face the world's evil is beating a dead horse, I know, but I have to try, ya know? I don't know that he isn't. Maybe he is caring for a sick parent at home and this is his outlet for hope. I think you brought a gun to a fistfight and you are bound to shoot off a few rounds. At this stage, knowing what we all know, I suspect TBs have some good reasons for believing as they do. It isn't for me, and I am judgmental about it too. But I don't need to kick a crutch out from under someone, even if that is how I may view some of the movement believer shit. I can't fight the denial of evil in most of the ways possible without incurring personal risk of being sent to a camp, but I can tell these guys that if -- HERE AT RICK'S PARTY -- they're not going to respond to the true issues and instead make fun of me with flaming instead, then I get the right to flame back, and I'll have a lot of fun doing so, cuz, well, writers love the challenge of getting oomph into their posts. I have seen you send the first volley many times. I have too. But I am imposing my values on your posts just as you are with theirs. Can I never escape my own hypocrisy?! I just think you are being too personal in your attack and not allowing for a person with real needs like yours. My most intense volleys to you were about your attacks on me. At least this is how I see it. I can be defensive as a MF if I feel someone is just teeing off for no reason. You, Curtis, have been attacked thusly by me -- I gave you more than one load of buck-shot aimed at your backside for not being willing to examine the subtlety of the concept predation, I thought I did. I gave you my perspective. I didn't feel as if you were understanding me or cared to. Once I saw that, I just used the posts to goof on you. Not nice, but that was where I ended up by my own choice of reaction to your posts. but here you are still dealing with me -- THAT'S RARE AND MATURE -- without being reduced to flaming -- THAT'S GREAT MODELING OF COMMUNICATION, and I declare you a far better person at pulling this off. I always enjoy people with flava. I am looking for difference. I just think we can get to finding out where we draw different lines faster with rapport. Rapport is broken if we assume that a person is fundamentally different from us. I don't think you are so different from me. That is my starting point. It is just a choice of a POV on people. I am not selling it as a virtue. It is just a better means to my own ends of uncovering the person behind the post. But thanks for the good intentions in writing this. Though, don't get me wrong, I still think you haven't defended your position very well -- not that you didn't make any points of merit that had me thinking hard. I think we have to respond to our own satisfaction. We have to give up hoping to respond to another person's satisfaction. I
