[FairfieldLife] Re: YS II 22: what does 'naSTa' (~ nashta) refer to??

2017-12-04 Thread [email protected] [FairfieldLife]


---In [email protected],  wrote :

 you should read Hagelin's "Is consciousness the Unified Field" if you have not
 

 ++
 

 It seems rather obvious, if for instance elementary particles, like photons,  
"know" when they are observed??
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: YS II 22: what does 'naSTa' (~ nashta) refer to??

2017-12-03 Thread srijau
you should read Hagelin's "Is consciousness the Unified Field" if you have not

[FairfieldLife] Re: YS II 22: what does 'naSTa' (~ nashta) refer to??

2017-12-03 Thread [email protected] [FairfieldLife]

 What makes the material ("mothery", LOL) world look real for others than 
enlightened individuals (kRtaarthaaH)? According to Patañjali it seems to be 
dhaaraNatvam*. This word seems to be abstract noun
 derived from dhaaraNaa, which in YS is the word for the sixth an.ga of yoga. 
 

 In the 3rd book, vibhuutipaada, dhaaraNaa is the first "step" of the siddhis 
technique:
 

 desha-bandhash cittasya dhaaraNaa. (~daysha-bandhash chittasya dhaaranaa).
 

 So, are the siddhis just very predictable and precise methods to cause a 
certain kind
 of collapse of the wave function??
 

 * ...anaSTaM tad anya-saa-dhaaraNatvaat ("common dhaaraNaa-ness"; ablative 
singular from saa-dhaaraNatvam?).
 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: YS II 22: what does 'naSTa' (~ nashta) refer to??

2017-12-02 Thread [email protected] [FairfieldLife]

 Hmmm... saaMkhya*-suutras (sankhya-sutras) give me the impression, that 
prakRti proper is actually the equilibrium (saamyaavasthaa [saamya-avasthaa: 
sameness-condition] of guNas) from which, by spontaneous sequential symmetry 
breaking(?) are born the 24 tattvas of saaMkhya (puruSa is the 25th), starting 
with mahat
 (mahaan) aka buddhi(?), the finest aspect of sattva:
 

 sattva-rajas-tamasaaM saamyaavasthaa prakRtiH, prakRter mahaan, mahato 
'hankaaro...blah, blah, blah.
 

 So, tamo-guNa would actually be the Higgs field - giving mass and inertia to 
stuff - whose excited state is the Higgs boson?? 
 

 

 * pertaining to number (saMkhya with a short first a-vowel)


[FairfieldLife] Re: YS II 22: what does 'naSTa' (~ nashta) refer to??

2017-11-30 Thread [email protected] [FairfieldLife]


In the last suutra, IV 34, Patañjali seems to elaborate upon why prakRti is 
"destroyed" (naSTa) for a kRtaartha ([someone with a] done-purpose 
[kRta-artha]):
 

 पुरुषार्थशून्यानां गुणानां प्रतिप्रसवः कैवल्यं स्वरूपप्रतिष्ठा वा 
चितिशक्तिरिति॥३४॥ 
 

 
 puruṣa-artha-śūnyānāṁ guṇānāṁ-pratiprasavaḥ kaivalyaṁ svarūpa-pratiṣṭhā vā 
citiśaktir iti ॥34॥ [typo, also in the devanaagarii : should be citishakter iti 
- card]
 [HA]: The State Of The Self In Itself Or Liberation Is Realised When The Gunas 
(Having Provided For The Experience And Liberation Of Purusa) Are Without Any 
Objective To Fulfill And Disappear Into Their Causal Substance. In Other Words, 
It Is Absolute Consciousness Established In Its Own Self.
 [IT]: Kaivalya is the state (of Enlightenment) following re-mergence of the 
Gunas because of their becoming devoid of the object of the Purusa. In this 
state the Purusa is established in his Real nature which is pure Consciousness.
 [VH]: [BM]: [SS]: Thus, the supreme state of Independence manifests while the 
gunas reabsorb themselves into Prakriti, having no more purpose to serve the 
Purusha. Or to look from another angle, the power of pure consciousness settles 
in its own pure nature.
 [SP]: [33] Since the gunas no longer have any purpose to serve for the Atman, 
they resolve themselves into Prakriti. This is liberation. The Atman shines 
forth in its own pristine nature, as pure consciousness.
 [SV]: [VN 4.33] The resolution in the inverse order of the qualities, berfect 
of any motive of action for the Purusa, is Kaivalya, or it is the establishment 
of the power of knowledge in its own nature.
 
 So, for instance the "destruction" of tamas or tamo-guNa (in Western physics: 
Higgs boson[s?]) shows e.g. in the fact that a fully enlightened individual can 
levitate just by thinking of becoming as light as cotton fibre, or just by 
deciding to fly?
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: YS II 22: what does 'naSTa' (~ nashta) refer to??

2017-11-27 Thread srijau
I have been in a state (briefly) where everything dissolves in front of my open 
eyes.