[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-08 Thread TurquoiseB 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is paraphrased, but Maharishi was asked
 at the end of this film from the early '70s for 
 what he would like to be remembered. Maharishi
 looked a million miles into the distance and
 then said, disarmingly, Nothing.
 
 Nothing?
 
 Nothing.
 
 But you will be remembered!
 
 That will be up to those who will remember me!
 
 (laughter)
 
 
 That beautiful moment
 ---faster forward---
 Maharishi asking the rajas days before his death
 for a memorial, yielding plans for Towers of 
 Immortality here, there, and everywhere.
 
 Of all the things that saddens me about Maharishi's
 death, that saddens me the most. It's so Citizen Kane.


Well said.

That's it exactly, the sad, sad King Lear
egoness of his last few years and days.

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread at_man_and_brahman 
Let me add more detail:

Maharishi explained that in these 
forty-eight Brahmananda Saraswati 
Nagar to be built in India, Vedic
Pandits will maintain coherence in 
world consciousness through their 
daily performance of Yagya and
Yogic Flying; and he connected this 
with the establishment of the Towers 
of Invincibility around the
world.  Maharishi asked: `Where 
should we build them? Where do 
we want to have them—the Invincible
Towers of the world? I want to put to 
the Rajas that I would like a gift of 
having achieved the goal. The
history of the world will never be the 
same. See if I deserve that, and where 
we would like to have such
a memorial of the great task that the 
world will never be the same old suffering 
world. I wanted a gift. I
think I have completed what I have ever 
done— and I am very sensitive about it. 
I am making an appeal
to the Rajas—do it in the name of Guru 
Dev. We would want to associate success 
with Guru Dev and
Guru Dev with the twelve Jyotir Linga. 
Rajas, think for five minutes if you 
would give me a favour.'


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is paraphrased, but Maharishi was asked
 at the end of this film from the early '70s for 
 what he would like to be remembered. Maharishi
 looked a million miles into the distance and
 then said, disarmingly, Nothing.
 
 Nothing?
 
 Nothing.
 
 But you will be remembered!
 
 That will be up to those who will remember me!
 
 (laughter)
 
 
 That beautiful moment
 ---faster forward---
 Maharishi asking the rajas days before his death
 for a memorial, yielding plans for Towers of 
 Immortality here, there, and everywhere.
 
 Of all the things that sadden me about Maharishi's
 death, that saddens me the most. It's so Citizen Kane.

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread sparaig 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Let me add more detail:
 
 Maharishi explained that in these 
 forty-eight Brahmananda Saraswati 
 Nagar to be built in India, Vedic
 Pandits will maintain coherence in 
 world consciousness through their 
 daily performance of Yagya and
 Yogic Flying; and he connected this 
 with the establishment of the Towers 
 of Invincibility around the
 world.  Maharishi asked: `Where 
 should we build them? Where do 
 we want to have them�the Invincible
 Towers of the world? I want to put to 
 the Rajas that I would like a gift of 
 having achieved the goal. The
 history of the world will never be the 
 same. See if I deserve that, and where 
 we would like to have such
 a memorial of the great task that the 
 world will never be the same old suffering 
 world. I wanted a gift. I
 think I have completed what I have ever 
 done� and I am very sensitive about it. 
 I am making an appeal
 to the Rajas�do it in the name of Guru 
 Dev. We would want to associate success 
 with Guru Dev and
 Guru Dev with the twelve Jyotir Linga. 
 Rajas, think for five minutes if you 
 would give me a favour.'
 
 


So... you have seen this on video tape?


Lawson (not saying that it didn't happen, but that some certain spin might be 
put on the 
wording of what was actually said vs what was SAID was said)

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread at_man_and_brahman 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to put to 
  the Rajas that I would like a gift of 
  having achieved the goal. The
  history of the world will never be the 
  same. See if I deserve that, and where 
  we would like to have such
  a memorial of the great task that the 
  world will never be the same old suffering 
  world. I wanted a gift. I
  think I have completed what I have ever 
  done� and I am very sensitive about it. 
  I am making an appeal
  to the Rajas�do it in the name of Guru 
  Dev. We would want to associate success 
  with Guru Dev and
  Guru Dev with the twelve Jyotir Linga. 
  Rajas, think for five minutes if you 
  would give me a favour.'
  
  
 
 
 So... you have seen this on video tape?
 
 
 Lawson (not saying that it didn't happen, but that some certain spin might 
 be put on 
the 
 wording of what was actually said vs what was SAID was said)


Have not seen. This is an official transcript.

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread off_world_beings 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is paraphrased, but Maharishi was asked
 at the end of this film from the early '70s for 
 what he would like to be remembered. Maharishi
 looked a million miles into the distance and
 then said, disarmingly, Nothing.
 
 Nothing?
 
 Nothing.
 
 But you will be remembered!
 
 That will be up to those who will remember me!
 
 (laughter)
 
 
 That beautiful moment
 ---faster forward---
 Maharishi asking the rajas days before his death
 for a memorial, yielding plans for Towers of 
 Immortality here, there, and everywhere.
 
 Of all the things that saddens me about Maharishi's
 death, that saddens me the most. It's so Citizen Kane.


The intellect that has assimilated the co-existence of oppposite 
concepts is the enlightened intellect. 
Maharishi was nothing worth remembering, and in that nothingness was 
something to be remembered. Paradox is the nature of existence and 
until humans can accept that in their hearts then they are lost. 
Maharishi doesn't want to be remembered, but being remembered his 
work is done. Paradox is bliss, and fools think in absolutes of right 
and wrongs and good and evil.

I forgot Maharishi a long time ago, but I love the experiences that 
blossomed from the interaction in my world that occurred. 

Maharishi is relevant and irrelevant to me.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread sparaig 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:

[...]
 Have not seen. This is an official transcript.


Reading it more carefully: 

One last pitch for money for one last grandiose project?

An appeal to their ego about him?

A way to make his ego feel better? 

A way to ensure that there would be some visual thing to associate with his 
passing? 

A way to ensure that there would be large TM centers in at least those places?


Probably yes to all of the above, and more.

Egoless probably has a different reality than we think it does. Enlightenment 
doesn't 
mean dropping the personality.


Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread authfriend 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
 at_man_and_brahman@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ 
wrote:
 
 [...]
  Have not seen. This is an official transcript.
 
 
 Reading it more carefully: 
 
 One last pitch for money for one last grandiose project?
 
 An appeal to their ego about him?
 
 A way to make his ego feel better? 
 
 A way to ensure that there would be some visual thing to associate 
with his passing? 
 
 A way to ensure that there would be large TM centers in at least 
those places?

Something to keep their minds off the fact
that he was gone by keeping them busy
carrying out his last request and giving
them a tangible way to show their devotion,
would be my guess. But as you say, probably
all of the above.

(Nice to see you, Lawson!)




 Probably yes to all of the above, and more.
 
 Egoless probably has a different reality than we think it does. 
Enlightenment doesn't 
 mean dropping the personality.
 
 
 Lawson

[FairfieldLife] Re: important Sage of a New Generation quotation

2008-02-07 Thread geezerfreak 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is paraphrased, but Maharishi was asked
 at the end of this film from the early '70s for 
 what he would like to be remembered. Maharishi
 looked a million miles into the distance and
 then said, disarmingly, Nothing.
 
 Nothing?
 
 Nothing.
 
 But you will be remembered!
 
 That will be up to those who will remember me!
 
 (laughter)
 
 
 That beautiful moment
 ---faster forward---
 Maharishi asking the rajas days before his death
 for a memorial, yielding plans for Towers of 
 Immortality here, there, and everywhere.
 
 Of all the things that saddens me about Maharishi's
 death, that saddens me the most. It's so Citizen Kane.


Indeed. The direction he and the TMO took in the last 15-20 years or so just 
sickens me. 
Listening to many of the tributes these last two days (Howard Stern's was truly 
amazing!) it 
struck me that most of these lovely sentiments are for a man and organization 
that 
evaporated many years ago.