[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, BTW, note how carefully Barry avoided my point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you obsessed with Barry? I'm not. However, his recent acting out has gotten under my skin a bit, so you could say I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-28 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone who wasn't explicitly aligned with the U.S. government suspected the CIA was

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [...] If this were the late '70s or early '80s, wouldn't ya think that the TMO would be distancing themselves from such an artiste? Now don't get me wrong; I LOVED Mulholland Drive and especially the Lesbian scenes (hey, who doesn't love

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure they took a hard look at the TMO, chuckled, filed some reports, and then moved on. If there was ever any truth in the CIA interest in TM, I'm sure that description pretty much covers it. However, I would change

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the CIA get forbidden to dabble in domestic affairs? Was it before Kennedy or after? The CIA has *always* been forbidden to work on investi- gations that are centered within the United States. It's part of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the CIA get forbidden to dabble in domestic affairs? Was it before Kennedy or after? The CIA has *always* been forbidden to work

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
And Judy's an old windbag who doesn't understand that her defintion of 'dishonesty' is 'anything that'll allow me to argue with someone in public.' No *wonder* nobody really cares. :-) Actually I much prefer discussion to argument. But discussion with someone who is consistently

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And Judy's an old windbag who doesn't understand that her defintion of 'dishonesty' is 'anything that'll allow me to argue with someone in public.' No *wonder* nobody really cares. :-) Actually I much

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is that these TBs

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread Ingegerd
What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not know if they was or not. I only heard rumours. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/26/05 8:52 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Par for the course during that time. Why do you think it was so easy to pay off the Spanish officials? It was the common thing to do. Probably still

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/26/05 12:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we all know the story of Leon Weiner actually getting busted trying to carry cash from Mallorca to Switzerland. And Billy and

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not know if they was or not. I only heard rumours. Ingegerd Almost certainly they were. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not know if they was or not. I only heard rumours. Ingegerd Almost certainly they were. How about

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paying off the Spanish officials to get him out. Par for the course during that time. Why do you think it was so easy to pay off

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paying off the Spanish officials to get him out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paying off the Spanish officials to get him out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not know if they was or not. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about you per se but about the nature of ethics. IMO, unethical behavior is almost *defined* by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it too. You really *don't* understand the concept of ethics, do you? :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about you per se but

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about you per se but

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it too. You

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it too. You

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an evangelical Christian: http://www.alternet.org/story/18378/ ) was clearly an enemy of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do not know if they was or not. I only heard rumours. Ingegerd Almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to something SO earth-shattering that these organisations took an interest in us. Yup.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to something SO earth-shattering that these organisations took an interest in us. Yup. That's exactly my take on all this as well. The clinging to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes him to lash out at a calm and rational discussion of TMO history that may or may not have basis in fact. Wanting to continue to believe that

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to something SO earth-shattering that these organisations took an interest in

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes him to lash out at a calm and rational discussion of TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone who wasn't explicitly aligned with the U.S. government suspected the CIA was spying on them. It didn't have anything to do with wanting to believe one was

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes him to lash out at a calm and rational discussion of TMO

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone who wasn't explicitly aligned with the U.S. government suspected the CIA was

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/27/05 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes him to lash out at a calm and rational discussion of TMO history that may or may

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, but this is such bullshit I have to speak up. Anyone who was an activist back in the late 60s and early 70s might have suspected that *some* US government agency was monitoring their efforts, but almost

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, but this is such bullshit I have to speak up. Anyone who was an activist back in the late 60s and early 70s might have

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, but this is such bullshit I have to speak up. Anyone who was an activist back in the late 60s and early 70s might have

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, in the early '70s virtually everyone who didn't explicitly align themselves with the U.S. government suspected they were being spied on by the CIA.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/27/05 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone who wasn't explicitly aligned with the U.S. government suspected the CIA was

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
Oh, BTW, note how carefully Barry avoided my point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone who wasn't explicitly

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think the more interesting question is why merely discussing this topic is such a bee under Barry's bonnet. It's not, actually. I just find it interesting that Shemp is the only one here who is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/27/05 1:34 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related issues: Why MMY hated Carter and blamed him for spying, but loved Reagan. And Nixon. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread Sal Sunshine
That is what they did, and look what happened. Sal On Dec 27, 2005, at 12:57 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: ...and know what?  I certainly wouldn't mind if all the organisational schemes worked.  I think TM is the greatest thing since sliced bread...and if training mindless robotrons who bought

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think the more interesting question is why merely discussing this topic is such a bee under Barry's bonnet. It's not,

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think the more interesting question is why

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- TurquoiseB wrote: I'm just saying that people would *like* to believe it was true because that might suggest that what they were involved with back then (TM) was more important than it really was. I believe it because the U.S. government has demonstrated itself to be more intrusive

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, BTW, note how carefully Barry avoided my point. Nobody really cares, Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think the more interesting question is why merely discussing this topic is such a bee under Barry's bonnet. It's not,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/27/05 3:02 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/27/05 1:34 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related issues: Why MMY hated Carter and blamed him for spying, but loved Reagan.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread a_non_moose_ff
Why are you obsessed with Barry? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think the more interesting question is why merely discussing this topic is such a bee under Barry's bonnet. It's not,

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry has a bee under his bonnet on this issue because it gives him yet another opportunity to denigrate the TMO and its TBs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/27/05 3:02 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/27/05 1:34 PM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you obsessed with Barry? Barry is cute with milky-white skin and silky-smooth buttocks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/27/05 4:13 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More specifically, he was in favor of sending as many blacks as possible to Viet Nam. He said the karma of that war was between the blacks and the Chinese. Really? Where did you hear this? He told Curly Smith, and Curly told

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, BTW, note how carefully Barry avoided my point. Nobody really cares, Judy. And that's why things are in such a mess today,

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you obsessed with Barry? I'm not. However, his recent acting out has gotten under my skin a bit, so you could say I'm abscessed with Barry. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, BTW, note how carefully Barry avoided my point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/27/05 4:13 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More specifically, he was in favor of sending as many blacks as possible to Viet Nam. He said the karma of that war was between the blacks and the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry has a bee under his bonnet on this issue because

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you obsessed with Barry? Barry is cute with milky-white skin and silky-smooth buttocks. Shemp obviously has unauthorized

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not *about* the CIA. It's about eltitists' innate need to feel important. The TM organization panders to elitism. It tells its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 1:31 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the  world.  But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and  irrationally paranoid which is what MMY very well may be if he  thinks the TMO has been spied upon and infiltrated by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Maharishi was a target of the CIA This

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right after I got back from TTC in '74, a few initiators at my center started getting involved with -- for lack of a better word -- a faith-healer in Nebraska whom they would send money to and she would work on your aura or some such thing and

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and irrationally paranoid which is what MMY very well may be if he thinks the TMO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and irrationally paranoid which is

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the world. But I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and irrationally paranoid

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:snip  Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to theworld.  But I suppose even a great saint

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yes, MMY is a great saint who has

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