Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
MUM could send a team of meditators to help out with this fledgling Burlington group meditation. It would be good for both groups to have TM’ers show up for the group meditation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : ..By the science and we know this too by experience, TM’ers should show up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Yep. TM’ers should loosen up, reach out and show up for communal meditations, like a duty. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesed...@yahoo.com> wrote : I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond. But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual products available today. However as for collective meditation, even as Maharishi called for a collection of the various disciplines in asking the sadhus of the valley of the saints to come together for a collective practice in a time of extreme world conflict, the indicia of modern science does seem to show that bringing transcendence to a population by supplying experienced meditators has an overall beneficial effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussions of combining dharana, dhyan and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
I agree with Ollie here about the essential practice but then also that despite some aversions to the TM movement the group meditating here in Fairfield as a collective meditation is a particularly nice activated place to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : By the science and we know this by experience too, TM’ers should show up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Yep. TM’ers should loosen up, reach out and show up for communal meditations, like a duty. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesed...@yahoo.com> wrote : I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond. But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual products available today. However as for collective meditation, even as Maharishi called for a collection of the various disciplines in asking the sadhus of the valley of the saints to come together for a collective practice in a time of extreme world conflict, the indicia of modern science does seem to show that bringing transcendence to a population by supplying experienced meditators has an overall beneficial effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indic
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
By the science and we know this by experience too, TM’ers should show up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Yep. TM’ers should loosen up, reach out and show up for communal meditations, like a duty. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesed...@yahoo.com> wrote : I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond. But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual products available today. However as for collective meditation, even as Maharishi called for a collection of the various disciplines in asking the sadhus of the valley of the saints to come together for a collective practice in a time of extreme world conflict, the indicia of modern science does seem to show that bringing transcendence to a population by supplying experienced meditators has an overall beneficial effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussions of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation is like the aggregate of focus in the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
Yep. TM’ers should loosen up, reach out and show up for communal meditations, like a duty. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesed...@yahoo.com> wrote : I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond. But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual products available today. However as for collective meditation, even as Maharishi called for a collection of the various disciplines in asking the sadhus of the valley of the saints to come together for a collective practice in a time of extreme world conflict, the indicia of modern science does seem to show that bringing transcendence to a population by supplying experienced meditators has an overall beneficial effect. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussions of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation is like the aggregate of focus in the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
On 03/30/2016 06:48 PM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond. But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual products available today. Hardly, it is yoga lite for the masses and a pop culture technique for the 1970s. We're in the 21st century. There are plenty of real yogis around who can teach much more powerful techniques and even better yoga lite techniques. But if one doesn't get out much they won't know that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! *From:* "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM *Subject:* RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <mdixon.6569@... <mailto:mdixon.6569@...>> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. *From:*"dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] <mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]>" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>> *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have whic
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
Hi. I have personally experienced that the practice of Transcendental Meditation has very deep healing powers and actively promote it (in the right context i would use the adjective 'miraculous'). However, I recently had to find an alternative for people at work that was free from any religious or mystical association (including mantra meditation) which was also not recognised as ‘mindfulness’ (and was also inexpensive). I expect those who have stayed in the loop have come across ‘Conscious Mental Rest’… http://www.unlock-your-happiness.com/conscious-mental-rest.html …but it looks like a good contender for ‘non-mediation meditation’. The chap who has developed this says this: [quote] Yogic flying with Conscious Mental Rest (CMR) Of interest, I have experimented with the TM-Sidhi sutras after a session of my own Conscious Mental Rest form of meditation, instead of using Transcendental MeditationTM. I have consistently had the same experience as when the sidhis are used on the basis of TM. I lift off and hop just as effortlessly as I do with the TM-Sidhi programme. So it would seem to me that, for whatever scientific explanation there may be, my process of Conscious Mental Rest provides the same consciousness state on which the sutras can 'work' effectively, including the yogic flying sutra. I must add that this is based on my own personal experience; it has not been proven scientifically. [/quote]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
I agree that TM along with any other valid breakthrough is going to attract those hoping to be a big frog in a small pond. But no need to overlook that TM is also the most effective technique in promoting the entire cycle of higher states of consciousness, in a systematic way. There is no other technique available to the masses today that is even close. So, sure, watch against hubris, but no need for equivocation or false modesty towards TM, as it is unique in its attributes and effects, compared to the vast array of spiritual products available today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:Fairf
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). It seems to be essential for most people to be able to count themselves extra special or extra smart or extra privileged in some way. If that means their particular meditation technique is the greatest or that the particular country club they belong to is the most prestigious then that is how they play it. Most of us like to feel a bit exceptional in some way, and we probably are but not in the ways we think we are! From: "'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...> wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...%20[FairfieldLife]; <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote : Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contempla
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However as for collective meditation, even as Maharishi called for a collection of the various disciplines in asking the sadhus of the valley of the saints to come together for a collective practice in a time of extreme world conflict, the indicia of modern science does seem to show that bringing transcendence to a population by supplying experienced meditators has an overall beneficial effect. We know this by experience too, TM’ers should show up and justly contribute. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer. People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose. Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly. The science on people joining in collective meditation would indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it comes to brain health and stress relief, Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added publicity from technology companies like Google and Apple, which encourage employees to meditate — to reintroduce it into popular culture. But can meditation, and its cousin, “mindfulness,” become staples of urban life the way that yoga, a rarity until the early 1990s, has become a widespread activity? No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating h
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Bingo! You also have that problem within the TM community. Everybody telling others what they *should or shouldn't * do and *oh, Maharishi wouldn't want that* syndrome(as if they were more enlightened and in tune with him). From: "'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:26 AM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote :TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up.As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior.From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote :Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer. People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose.Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly. The science on people joining in collective meditationwould indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it comes to brain health and stress relief, Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added publicity from technology companies like Google and Apple, which encourage employees to meditate — to reintroduce it into popular culture. But can meditati
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Spiritually immature people in a lot of groups behave like this. “Our technique/teacher/etc. is the bestest!” It’s an ego-booster. “It must be the best because if it weren’t I wouldn’t be doing it, because I’m so discerning and wise.” From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 7:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> > wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. _ From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] <mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com%20[FairfieldLife]> " <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> > wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. _ From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] <mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com%20[FairfieldLife]> " <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com <mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> > wrote : Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer. People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose. Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly. The science on people joining in collective meditation would indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com <mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> > wrote : The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it comes to brain health and stress relief, Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a secular approach and scientific researc
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Yeah, TM’ers do seem to contend a fight over meditations. The antagonism with the other practices begins right away in the TM intro lectures. Seems a marketing device employed on or by TM'ers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer. People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose. Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly. The science on people joining in collective meditation would indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it comes to brain health and stress relief, Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added publicity from technology companies like Google and Apple, which encourage employees to meditate — to reintroduce it into popular culture. But can meditation, and its cousin, “mindfulness,” become staples of urban life the way that yoga, a rarity until the early 1990s, has become a widespread activity? No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 Increasing numbers of harried New Yorkers are gathering to close their eyes and just breathe. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/the-hidden-price-of-mindfulness-inc.html?emc=eta1&_r=0
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TM teachers are persnickety because Maharishi was when he was training teachers. He always drove home the difference between TM and other techniques when asked about them. He was *faulting* the other techniques and explained why TM was *better*. This is fine when you're teaching teachers. However, good manner s dictates you don't take that attitude when in *mixed* company. I don't recall M doing that when he was in the company of another teacher...run the other guys meditation down and build his up. As I said earlier, can TM'ers know when to not run the other guys meditation down in order to look superior. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer. People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose.Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly. The science on people joining in collective meditationwould indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it comes to brain health and stress relief, Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added publicity from technology companies like Google and Apple, which encourage employees to meditate — to reintroduce it into popular culture. But can meditation, and its cousin, “mindfulness,” become staples of urban life the way that yoga, a rarity until the early 1990s, has become a widespread activity? No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating | | | | | | No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating Increasing numbers of harried New Yorkers are gathering to close their eyes and just breathe. | | | View on www.nytimes.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc. | | | | | | The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc. As the practice of mindfulness is packaged and peddled, it’s hard not to wonder if something essential is being lost. | | | View on www.nytimes.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | With so many mindful goods and services for sale, it can be easy to forget that mindfulness is a quality of being, not a piece of merchandise. ..while purists sometimes wrung their hands about its commercialization, their lamentations were in vain. Let loose in the American marketplace, yoga took on a life of its own. Now, she said, the same thing is happening with mindfulness. ..Though this may result in less signal and more noise, it doesn’t mean mindfulness can’t still be beneficial. Yoga may have changed over
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
But why are TM’ers so persnickety? Among old Quakers those members who were well established in the transcendent, noticeably as those who could sit with and settle a meeting by their presence, were referred to as ‘weighty’ friends to meditate with. TM’ers instead can come across as spiritually arrogant and exclusive. Yet, Patanjali seems to indicate in his discussion of combining dharana, dhyan and samadhi in meditation like the in the aggregate of the TM-siddhis or in that last technique Maharishi was working on, the Ved and Physiology practice that combines attention and intention (very much like some buddhistic practice) with samadhi/transcendence. TM’ers could adopt a more helpful attitude and show up for some of these collective meditations with others. Like reaching out and lending a hand. It seems a cultural problem as much as anything that TM’ers may have which turns to shunning others. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6...@yahoo.com> wrote : Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not attend because it will end up causing more tension.. From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help? The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church, and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer. People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose. Those arriving late are asked to enter quietly. The science on people joining in collective meditation would indicate a priority in joining groups to meditate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it comes to brain health and stress relief, Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added publicity from technology companies like Google and Apple, which encourage employees to meditate — to reintroduce it into popular culture. But can meditation, and its cousin, “mindfulness,” become staples of urban life the way that yoga, a rarity until the early 1990s, has become a widespread activity? No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 Increasing numbers of harried New Yorkers are gathering to close their eyes and just breathe. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/nyregion/no-texts-please-were-meditating.html?emc=eta1 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote : The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/the-hidden-price-of-mindfulness-inc.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/the-hidden-price-of-mindfulness-inc.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/the-hidden-price-of-mindfulness-inc.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 As the practice of mindfulness is packaged and peddled, it’s hard not to wonder if something essential is being lost. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/20/opinion/sunday/the-hidden-price-of-mindfulness-inc.html?emc=eta1&_r=0 Preview by Yahoo With so many mindful goods and services for sale, it can be easy to forget that mindfulness is a quality of being, not a piece of merchandise. ..while purists sometimes wrung their hands about its commercialization, their lamentations were in vain. Let loose in the American marketplace, yoga took on a life of its own. Now, she said, the same thing is happening with mindfulness. ..Though this may result in less signal and more noise, it doesn’t mean mindfulness can’t still be beneficial. Yoga may have changed over the years, but plenty of authentic teachers and ashrams can still be found. The same dynamic will most likely play out w
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer ..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
Doug, I guess the big question is, can TMers keep from telling other meditators
how superior TM is over any other technique. If not, I would recommend they not
attend because it will end up causing more tension..
From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 9:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Activist Meditators and A day of silent prayer
..Meditation 's Going Mainstream
Maharishi said that the world today needed the intercession of the saints
who are established in themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty
power.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
Should TM’ers condescend to send in support a group of meditators to help?
The Contemplative Prayer and Reflection Group in Burlington will host a Day of
Silent Prayer from 9:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Saturday at Christ Episcopal Church,
and everyone is welcome. There’s never a bad day for prayer.
People are welcome to drop in or out as they choose.Those arriving late are
asked to enter quietly.
The science on people joining in collective meditationwould indicate a priority
in joining groups to meditate.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
The secular approach to meditation is opening a lot of doors right now when it
comes to brain health and stress relief,
Meditation has been around for more than 2,500 years, but it has taken a
secular approach and scientific research — not to mention added publicity from
technology companies like Google and Apple, which encourage employees to
meditate — to reintroduce it into popular culture. But can meditation, and its
cousin, “mindfulness,” become staples of urban life the way that yoga, a rarity
until the early 1990s, has become a widespread activity?
No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating
| |
| | | | No Texts, Please, We’re Meditating Increasing numbers of
harried New Yorkers are gathering to close their eyes and just breathe. | |
| View on www.nytimes.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote :
The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc.
| |
| | | | The Hidden Price of Mindfulness Inc. As the practice of
mindfulness is packaged and peddled, it’s hard not to wonder if something
essential is being lost. | |
| View on www.nytimes.com| Preview by Yahoo |
| |
With so many mindful goods and services for sale, it can be easy to forget that
mindfulness is a quality of being, not a piece of merchandise.
..while purists sometimes wrung their hands about its commercialization, their
lamentations were in vain. Let loose in the American marketplace, yoga took on
a life of its own. Now, she said, the same thing is happening with mindfulness.
..Though this may result in less signal and more noise, it doesn’t mean
mindfulness can’t still be beneficial. Yoga may have changed over the years,
but plenty of authentic teachers and ashrams can still be found. The same
dynamic will most likely play out with mindfulness, too. Strange variations on
mindfulness will proliferate, while pockets of traditional teachings endure.
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