Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Williams
We are not getting much help from emptybill, or anyone else on the list, for a definition of the Sanskrit term maya and what it meant for the Shankara tradition of Advaita Vedanta, so it looks like it's up to me to post the explanations. Maya is in fact, indescribable, a superimposition on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Williams
Share: I've heard that when tamas guna dominates, maya is a covering over reality Vedanta is all about how to pierce the veil of maya in order to know the transcendent truth. Maya is a perception as fact - the appearance of phenomena through the constituents of nature, the three gunas. In the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-21 Thread Richard Williams
To reiterate - the term maya in Advaita Vedanta is not real, yet not unreal; it is neither both nor neither. Maya in Advaita Vedanta is real in the sense that it is presented to us, but not real in the absolute sense. According to Shankara, maya is a superimposition on the real. Apparently there

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Share Long
emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Empty, really a great concise roadmap here that you write here. FFL-post-of- the- year thus far amongst all the athletic supporters flash-flooding this forum as place of high mind spirituality otherwise. Thanks. For Me the best sutras I got out of the TM-siddhis were the ones about the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Williams
Buck: For Me the best sutras I got out of the TM-siddhis were the ones about the discernment/distinction o Bhuti a Purusha. For most TMers, the esoteric teachings are the most important aspects of their practice - the knowledge and the mechanics of the Sri Vidya and the Kashmere Trika theory.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Share Long
Buck, that's one of my favorites too. Share in Bhagambrini... On Monday, January 20, 2014 7:39 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:   Empty, really a great concise roadmap here that you write here.  FFL-post-of- the- year thus far amongst all the athletic supporters

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Williams
A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada... Maybe you lost them, but you have to begin with a definition of the term maya - which I already posted: maya is neither real nor unreal, nor both, nor neither. Maya is not an illusion or something that is not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Share Long
Richard, I've heard that when tamas guna dominates, maya is a covering over reality; when rajo guna dominates, maya is a veil; but when sat guna dominates, maya is actually a means to ultimate reality. What do you think? On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:40 AM, Richard Williams

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Richard Williams
Share: This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness... Things and events - phenomena - are not real, yet not unreal either. They are like an illusion in that they are not exactly as they appear to be, yet they are real in the sense

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread Share Long
Richard, this brings to mind one of my favorite passages from Maharishi's SBAL: ...identification is not bondage. What is bondage is inability to maintain Being along with identification while indulging in experience and activity. pg 238 On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:50 AM, Richard Williams

Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom

2014-01-20 Thread emptybill
This reply demonstrates that you are either unable to understand the post or you didn't read it. It also shows that you are probably unqualified to study advaita. The post was about Advaita - not Kashmiri Trika or Shri Vidya.Your reply is merely inane. Don't sully this one with your