Re: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent

2014-10-22 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure, I'll take the bate! You knew I would. Why tax multi-millionaires more, 
they're already taxed heavily and they are producers in our economy. I have a 
novel idea, why not tax poverty for a change? IF you're a taker, you could 
start working out your karma by having part of what you have taken, taken back 
from you. We should consider taxing people out of poverty. The more you make , 
the less(percentage wise) you would pay in tax to a point. Might motivate some 
to earn more so they could pay less and keep more. Of course there can always 
be exceptions such as for the elderly and retired, disabled or whatever. As 
Maharishi says, nobody has a right to suffer and I say  In America, nobody 
has a right to live in poverty and if they do, they should pay for it.   From: 
Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent
  
    I'm sure we'll hear from the taking other people's money crowd here 
but I've thought this would be a good idea for years. Doubt if we have 
any multi-millionaire US citizens here so we would all get a tax break. 
And the money hoarders would get a deterrent (which was the real reason 
for the Eisenhower years tax rate which was not to make the government 
rich).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/economists-tax-rich_n_6024430.html

Billionairism is a mental illness.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent

2014-10-22 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
e bait 
  From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent
   
    Sure, I'll take the bate! You knew I would. Why tax multi-millionaires 
more, they're already taxed heavily and they are producers in our economy. I 
have a novel idea, why not tax poverty for a change? IF you're a taker, you 
could start working out your karma by having part of what you have taken, taken 
back from you. We should consider taxing people out of poverty. The more you 
make , the less(percentage wise) you would pay in tax to a point. Might 
motivate some to earn more so they could pay less and keep more. Of course 
there can always be exceptions such as for the elderly and retired, disabled or 
whatever. As Maharishi says, nobody has a right to suffer and I say  In 
America, nobody has a right to live in poverty and if they do, they should pay 
for it.   From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:23 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent
  
    I'm sure we'll hear from the taking other people's money crowd here 
but I've thought this would be a good idea for years. Doubt if we have 
any multi-millionaire US citizens here so we would all get a tax break. 
And the money hoarders would get a deterrent (which was the real reason 
for the Eisenhower years tax rate which was not to make the government 
rich).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/economists-tax-rich_n_6024430.html

Billionairism is a mental illness.

  

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent

2014-10-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
How many millionaires and even billionaires do you actually know, Mike?  
Your upside down idea is just that: upside down.  It would never work.  
Once again a 90% tax on the rich keeps them from their OCD of 
accumulating wealth and their narcissistic drive to be YEN  (Yet Another 
Napoleon). It's not to fund the government.  There are not many rich 
people who actually produced anything other than more money for 
themselves.  They are opportunists who often buy small businesses to get 
new products.


Humans are just not that sophisticated or evolved that they will do good 
things if they have the luck to accumulate a lot of wealth.  In general 
many of the wealthy are not money managers so they turn that over to 
companies who manage their wealth for them and they have only one goal 
to make as much money as possible for their client.  It's like a 
horrible machine destroying anything in it's way of making income.


As for the poor.  Just where are the jobs?  Where are the opportunities. 
Seems we do have a federal jobs program: the military.  That's not a 
good idea at all.  Looking around I find many highly educated people 
shut out of the job market.  The best they can do is to try to come up 
with some winning thing in a world where everyone else is trying to do 
that.  Quite a mess.


So let's add a basic income program too.

On 10/22/2014 09:57 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
Sure, I'll take the bate! You knew I would. Why tax multi-millionaires 
more, they're already taxed heavily and they are producers in our 
economy. I have a novel idea, why not tax poverty for a change? IF 
you're a taker, you could start working out your karma by having part 
of what you have taken, taken back from you. We should consider taxing 
people out of poverty. The more you make , the less(percentage wise) 
you would pay in tax to a point. Might motivate some to earn more so 
they could pay less and keep more. Of course there can always be 
exceptions such as for the elderly and retired, disabled or whatever. 
As Maharishi says, nobody has a right to suffer and I say  In 
America, nobody has a right to live in poverty and if they do, they 
should pay for it. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:23 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent

I'm sure we'll hear from the taking other people's money crowd here
but I've thought this would be a good idea for years. Doubt if we have
any multi-millionaire US citizens here so we would all get a tax break.
And the money hoarders would get a deterrent (which was the real reason
for the Eisenhower years tax rate which was not to make the government
rich).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/economists-tax-rich_n_6024430.html

Billionairism is a mental illness.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Economists: tax the rich at 90 percent

2014-10-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 10/22/2014 11:23 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

I'm sure we'll hear from the taking other people's money crowd here
but I've thought this would be a good idea for years. Doubt if we have
any multi-millionaire US citizens here so we would all get a tax break.
And the money hoarders would get a deterrent (which was the real reason
for the Eisenhower years tax rate which was not to make the government
rich).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/economists-tax-rich_n_6024430.html

Billionairism is a mental illness.


/You are not even making any sense. We don't want anyone taking our 
earned income away from us because it's our money and we earned it. 
//It's not complicated.//

//
//In general, I am opposed to taxation of all kinds, but if I am elected 
I will push for a fair tax system and to abolish the IRS. We are all 
supposed to be equal under the law, so a flat tax makes more sense 
instead of a progressive or regressive system of taxation and a flawed 
or even corrupt tax administration system.//

//
//Flat taxes offer simplicity in the tax code, which has been reported 
to increase compliance and decrease administration costs. A true flat 
rate tax is a system of taxation where one tax rate is applied to all 
income with no exceptions. The flat rate would be applied to all taxable 
income and profits without exception or exemption. //

//
//It could be argued that under such an arrangement, no one is subject 
to a preferential or unfair tax treatment. No industry receives 
special treatment, large households are not advantaged at the expense of 
small ones, etc. //

//
//Moreover, the cost of tax filing for citizens and the cost of tax 
administration for the government would be further reduced, as under a 
true flat tax only businesses and the self-employed would need to 
interact with the tax authorities. In general, the question of how to 
eliminate deductions is fundamental to the flat tax design.//


That's what I think./